On-duty New York City police officers get too 'involved' with parading civilians

[freespirit]

Amateur video footage from the West-Indian American Day Carnival in New York City catches several uniformed on-duty police officers busting into dirty moves with parade marchers.

http://news.sympatico.ca/oped/coffee-talk/on-duty_new_york_city_police_officers_get_too_involve d_with_parading_civilians/c8670c4a


...from the article:


At the recent West Indian-American Day Carnival in New York City, a festival onlooker videotaped uniformed police officers getting way too close and comfortable with scantily clad women.

From what I can tell after having seen the short video, it seems that the on-duty officers are supposed to be keeping the peace and making sure that the crowd doesn't spill over. The video, however, captures women in festive costumes dancing up to the officers, bending over in front of them, and grinding onto them. The officers at first seem reluctant to join in, and they dance awkwardly in place. But as more women grind up against the men in uniform and as the cheers from the crowd grow wilder, the officers seem to let the music and fun get the better of their judgment.

I can imagine that for someone who hasn't been to a bar or club in a very long time or for someone who doesn't watch music videos, the bump-and-grind moves seem pretty explicit and shocking in and of themselves. But if you are accustomed to such dancing, as is popular amongst a younger generation, the video, at first, isn't all that unsettling. I showed it to a fair amount of people who initially laughed and thought, like the onlookers at the parade, that some of these officers move surprisingly well.

It isn't until one of the policemen appears to what I can only describe as "mount" one of the women (26 seconds in) that you begin to feel perturbed, and when another officer almost knocks a girl over with his pelvic thrusts (1 min and 6 seconds in), it really hits you how entirely inappropriate the behavior is.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMg_G-YaIos


It's sleazy enough to see these kinds of aggressively intense sexual dance moves performed by civilians, but seeing them done by fully uniformed on-duty police officers is just plain gross.

Some could argue that the officers in the video were trying to connect with the public and earn their trust by joining in on the fun. People at the parade were, after all, giving them high fives and encouraging the dancing through cheers. Maybe if the police were just moving in place to the music and dancing by themselves, I could understand that argument. But how many of us are really going to respect and listen to someone who has just grabbed the hips of a woman and knocked his pelvis into her repeatedly?

The behavior is pretty outrageous given the fact that the U.S. is one of, if not the most litigious society in the world. Someone could easily interpret the situation as a form of sexual harassment. The police are in no way shape or form ever supposed to sexualize the public. These officers would never dream of dancing with a woman in a police station in the same manner, and since their workplace extends into the public arena, they need to conduct themselves appropriately.

The only reason the police were even at the festival in the first place was to preserve public discipline, but as seen in the tape, they were the ones causing the distraction that hindered their work. The dancing evoked an uproar of excitement from the already wild crowd. It could have easily escalated into the type of pandemonium that they were there to prevent.

All in all, the police in the video were not acting like men capable of keeping the peace or men worthy of respect. They were acting like the kinds of sleazeballs most of us try to avoid.

...true to form, it would seem...
(my bolding)

[Dogman]

Women are women and men are dogs! ;D Old enough too know better but still too young to resist.

Uniform's not withstanding!

Wonder if any of them walked like chester in gun smoke after!



:D

[Ponce]

I hope that their wifes have seen this video.......a man in power should always act better than the rest in order to be respected by the rest.

[Awoke]

Hahaha, good one Ponce.

They're COPS.

[Spectrism]

If I were chief of police, they would be out of their jobs IMMEDIATELY.

[ShortJohnSilver]

They are just contributing to inter-cultural understanding and engaging in productive liaison with an under-served community or something like that ...

[Libertytree]

Maybe I'm just setting myself up to be flamed here but.....I'd rather see them in this regard than tazing, beating or killing someone.

[Spectrism]

Maybe I'm just setting myself up to be flamed here but.....I'd rather see them in this regard than tazing, beating or killing someone.

The problem is that the two are not mutually exclusive.

[VX1]

Whew! I had to look at the title of the video... at first I thought it might be "Senate Approves Foodstamp Use At McDonalds!".

Yeah, I almost prefer this to the militarized Death Star "law enforcer" stormtrooper act. Peace Officers are human.

[freespirit]

Maybe I'm just setting myself up to be flamed here but.....I'd rather see them in this regard than tazing, beating or killing someone.

ahh...the lesser of two evils, eh?

i would just like to see them acting like professional, responsible, members of society...like they are supposed to!

[Down1]

I guess they figure if having sex on-duty only gets you fired then this is nothing.

[osoab]

How else were they going to search them without a harassment accusation?

[iOWNme]

You mean these Officers dont like the STASI spying surveillance grid they helped set up?

They arent even smart enough to see how it will be used against them.

[nunaem]

Isn't this the same parade in which several people were shot and one killed?

It's a mystery why violence always strikes these communities. They obviously have such an advanced culture. White people have a lot of catching up to do, but we're on our way. Whites are now throwing off the chains of patriarchy and repressive sexual mores, which the enlightened, liberated blacks have already done. I can only hope that we see such 'vibrancy' in white people soon.

[gunDriller]

Maybe I'm just setting myself up to be flamed here but.....I'd rather see them in this regard than tazing, beating or killing someone.

yeah !

bumping & grinding >> tasing, shooting, & asset seizure.

[Awoke]

, it reminds me of the days long ago where cops were part of the neighborhood and joined in local festivities

I never invite those pricks to my parties, but they still show up once in a while...

[Spectrism]

It may be considered lewd by some, but they weren't beating anyone, they weren't arresting anyone, they weren't harassing anyone, the festival participants didn't appear offended and actually seemed to enjoy joking around with the cops so I have no problem with it, it reminds me of the days long ago where cops were part of the neighborhood and joined in local festivities versus today where they show up only as a form of controlling forces.

Yeah, I am one of those who consider it lewd. It is conduct unbecoming an officer.

Not too long ago, those animals in the street would have been arrested for lewd conduct and indecent exposure. Chimpanzees have no problem with public sex acts. These brute beasts have no culture needing to be preserved and displayed. If that is their culture, just skim that sludge off the top of the melting pot and send it back where it came from.

[Son-of-Liberty]

Well this is certainly not behavior appropriate for police while on duty I am in agreement that it is much less offensive then some of the other criminal activities they engage in.

[freespirit]

Well this is certainly not behavior appropriate for police while on duty I am in agreement that it is much less offensive then some of the other criminal activities they engage in.

so, does that make it ok then? its not as bad as some of what they do?? how about this?...cops-do your job or be fired. just like the rest of us.

[Son-of-Liberty]

I agree with you they should be serving and protecting, not bumping and grinding whole on duty but isn't as bad as shooting a 14 year old for getting in a fight.

[willie pete]

hell of a culture there...lol ......after the parade, they probably all went off and had an orgy ::) ......no wonder why HIV and other STDs are so rampant in that race O0

[freespirit]

hell of a culture there...lol ......after the parade, they probably all went off and had an orgy ::) ......no wonder why HIV and other STDs are so rampant in that race O0

HIV and other STDs are rampant throughout all of humanity, not just "that race".

[willie pete]

HIV and other STDs are rampant throughout all of humanity, not just "that race".

check the percentages of "that race" .......::)

[freespirit]

check the percentages of "that race" .......::)


i am not arguing percentages here...just pointing out your omission of other races.

[willie pete]

i am not arguing percentages here...just pointing out your omission of other races.

I wasn't referring to the "occurance" of HIV and other STDs in different races, I was making referrence to "that races' " culture and behavior regarding the occurance of HIV and STDs within it....you couldn't argue percentages, the rates of HIV and STDs in "that race" are probably (without looking) 2-3 times higher than other races....

[ShortJohnSilver]

http://www.avert.org/std-statistics-america.htm
Quotes from this page:

"In 2009, the rate of chlamydia among blacks was 8 times higher than that in whites. "

"Moreover, the rate of gonorrhea among blacks was 20.5 times greater than among whites in 2009."

[freespirit]

I wasn't referring to the "occurance" of HIV and other STDs in different races, I was making referrence to "that races' " culture and behavior regarding the occurance of HIV and STDs within it....you couldn't argue percentages, the rates of HIV and STDs in "that race" are probably (without looking) 2-3 times higher than other races....

again, i am not arguing the percentages, i agree that they are higher. i was making the point that this is not a problem limited to just that race. HIV and STDs are a problem for EVERYBODY regardless of color or origin. your post inferred that this is limited to one race.

[nunaem]

You might as well say that all races engage in central banking too.

[freespirit]

You might as well say that all races engage in central banking too.
either i am taking your post waaay out of context, or...
that has to be the most idiotic statement i have seen you make nunaem. do you really feel that HIV and STDs are not a problem for other races?

care to clarify?

[nunaem]

either i am taking your post waaay out of context, or...
that has to be the most idiotic statement i have seen you make nunaem. do you really feel that HIV and STDs are not a problem for other races?

care to clarify?

Please reread those stats Shortjohnsilver posted, and then use your head. Problem? Maybe a problem for whites and hispanics. Epidemic? Only for blacks. HIV especially is not a problem for anyone besides blacks and homosexuals.

[willie pete]

again, i am not arguing the percentages, i agree that they are higher. i was making the point that this is not a problem limited to just that race. HIV and STDs are a problem for EVERYBODY regardless of color or origin. your post inferred that this is limited to one race.

Nope...you misinterpreted my post, the post is right. The answer to your statement is yes, HIV and STDs are a problem in all races, but they are rampant in "that race" as evidenced by the 2-3 or More times of occurance versus other races....it IS what it IS....::)

I can remember at one time the American Red Cross had included Haitians on the "Do not Donate" blood list...O0

[freespirit]

Please reread those stats Shortjohnsilver posted, and then use your head. Problem? Maybe a problem for whites and hispanics. Epidemic? Only for blacks. HIV especially is not a problem for anyone besides blacks and homosexuals.

i am using my head...perhaps you should take your own advice. if you think that HIV is a problem only for blacks and homosexuals, you are an idiot.

[freespirit]

here's some more stats for you...

http://www.avert.org/usa-race-age.htm

Blacks/African Americans accounted for half of all new HIV diagnoses and just under half of new AIDS diagnoses in 2009. Of the total number of people living with an HIV diagnosis in 2008 in the 40 U.S. states and 5 dependent areas,
46% were black/African American;
31.6% white;
20% Hispanic/Latino;
1.3% multiple races;
0.6% Asian;
0.4% American Indian/Alaska Native; and
0.04% Native Hawaiian/Other Pacific Islander.

[nunaem]

Those stats say nothing about the sexual persuasion of those afflicted. Who's the idiot again?

Blacks are only 13% of the population and nearly half of HIV carriers. And you want us to believe that it's the same problem for all races?

[freespirit]

Those stats say nothing about the sexual persuasion of those afflicted. Who's the idiot again?

Blacks are only 13% of the population and nearly half of HIV carriers. And you want us to believe that it's the same problem for all races?

you are...if you read further at the link, it does show sexual persuasion.

HIV/AIDS, and other STDs don't differentiate between races. it is not for blacks only, or homosexuals only.

these diseases are killing people daily from all races and all walks of life. you don't find that to be a problem?


...now that the thread has been successfully derailed, let's try to return to the original topic...

all other bullshit aside, these cops were not acting in a manner becoming an officer like spectrism stated, they have to be held to a higher standard, imo...

[nunaem]

you are...if you read further at the link, it does show sexual persuasion.

So hetero whites are 2% of HIV cases, despite being 60%+ of the US population. That isn't even on the same planet as black or homo rates, letalone the same ballpark. Is your brain broken?

[freespirit]

So hetero whites are 2% of HIV cases, despite being 60%+ of the US population. That isn't even on the same planet as black or homo rates, letalone the same ballpark. Is your brain broken?

no, but yours appears to be...the fact that you refuse to admit that this is a problem for the HUMAN race, not just one aspect of it, shows that you are either in denial, or you think that just by being white you somehow have a magical invulnerability to such ailments.

we'll see how you feel when you or your child step on a dirty needle in the park sometime....
will it be a problem for just blacks or fags then?

[nunaem]

Do rates mean nothing to you?

[freespirit]

the rates are important, sure...however, the fact that ALL races can and do contract this disease and others similar is not a fact to be ignored or glossed over.

[nunaem]

Non-smokers can get lung cancer too. Does pointing out that smokers suffer worse rates of lung cancer make me a bad person?

[freespirit]

no, it doesn't make you a bad person. but if you think that as a "non-smoker" you are safe, then you need to think again...

you may not have used the best comparative example here, but i do understand your point.

do you understand mine?

[nunaem]

I understand. Perhaps we should have clarified what we meant by 'problem'. I meant a significant societal problem. Like meth is a 'problem' in some rural white areas, but it's not much of a problem in most urban black areas. This is not to say that urban blacks have nothing to fear from meth, because meth will f*** them up just as much as it does to whites. It just isn't a significant problem in urban black areas (I think).