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Neuro
15th September 2011, 10:02 AM
I think we are seeing massive monetization occurring now, with the Major central banks creating money out of thin air and swapping it with each other. Time to switch gold for silver?


Stocks extended gains after the ECB said it will lend dollars to euro-area banks to ensure they have enough of the U.S. currency through the end of the year. The Frankfurt-based central bank said that, in coordination with the Fed, the Bank of England, the Bank of Japan and the Swiss National Bank, it will conduct three dollar liquidity-providing operations with a maturity of approximately three months. The loans are in addition to the bank’s regular seven-day dollar offerings.

More at the link:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-15/european-stock-futures-climb-as-sarkozy-merkel-back-greek-euro-membership.html

chad
15th September 2011, 10:05 AM
this is the last gasp of a dying currency system + you are spot on. they are basically doing a worldwide qe program.

platinumdude
15th September 2011, 10:16 AM
keep your gold and buy more silver.

Neuro
15th September 2011, 10:21 AM
this is the last gasp of a dying currency system + you are spot on. they are basically doing a worldwide qe program.

Get your PM's while you can. Especially silver will benefit, since it is an Industrial metal as well and Industry will be benefited by the inflation...

Twisted Titan
15th September 2011, 11:42 AM
I can very comfortably see 65 dollar silver before the year is done.

How much would a mercury dime be then?

mamboni
15th September 2011, 11:49 AM
This is the central banker's equivalent of "dazzle them with bullshit." ECB is going to provide dollars for liquidity? Sure, and the ECB must buy those dollars, with newly printed EUROs. This is monetization disguised as a high-fluting coordinated solution to our financial problems by the pointy headed money printing gurus. The mendacity of these people is stupifying - and the stupidity of the public seems unending! Do not be fooled - this is coordinated paper money printing and currency devaluation. Gold and silver will be bought by the smart money, much of it in Asia. $1700-plus gold and $40 silver are soon to be a long lost memory. If you don't have any yet, you better get some now.

Neuro
15th September 2011, 12:09 PM
This is the central banker's equivalent of "dazzle them with bullshit." ECB is going to provide dollars for liquidity? Sure, and the ECB must buy those dollars, with newly printed EUROs. This is monetization disguised as a high-fluting coordinated solution to our financial problems by the pointy headed money printing gurus. The mendacity of these people is stupifying - and the stupidity of the public seems unending! Do not be fooled - this is coordinated paper money printing and currency devaluation. Gold and silver will be bought by the smart money, much of it in Asia. $1700-plus gold and $40 silver are soon to be a long lost memory. If you don't have any yet, you better get some now.
I agree, just want to add that we may see a paper smack down in PM's the next few days, to make this look good. I think a quick takedown of Silver to $35 (around it's 200 DMA) is a possibility. But most likely in short order we are going to see it above $50... Buy now if you want to be certain!

mick silver
15th September 2011, 12:46 PM
it look like the smack down is here . it been going down for the last few days . so let me get this right there just trading there paper for are paper ... shell game

Large Sarge
15th September 2011, 02:10 PM
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Worlds-central-banks-flood-apf-3180932463.html?x=0


LONDON (AP) -- Five of the world's top central banks acted jointly Thursday to provide unlimited dollar loans to banks, a move aimed at easing the growing tensions in the eurozone's financial sector and shielding the global economy from its jitters.

The European Central Bank said it will coordinate with the U.S. Federal Reserve, the Bank of England, the Bank of Japan and the Swiss National Bank to offer three-month dollar loans to banks through the end of this year. There was no separate statement from the Fed.

The coordinated effort aims to prevent Europe's debt crisis from derailing the global economy's rebound from recession, a topic that will dominate talks between U.S. Treasury chief Timothy Geithner and his European counterparts at a meeting beginning Thursday night and running through Saturday in Poland.

European banks have seen their shares sink and some have had trouble getting loans from each other recently because of possible huge losses from their holdings of troubled European government bonds.

When a bank is rumored to be in danger of suffering large losses, other banks will stop lending to it for fear of not getting their money back -- a scenario that created the global credit crunch in 2008. Ultimately, the threat to the wider global economy is that banks will stop lending to businesses, stifling growth.

Stocks, particularly banking shares, and the euro rallied Thursday on hopes the dollar loans will relieve the funding pressures.

The program will likely prevent a panic for the next few months, but it's only a first step, said Mark McCormick, a currency strategist at Brown Brothers Harriman.

"You're warding off contagion and crisis, but it's not going to solve the problem, which is too much debt," McCormick said, but added it was smart for the central banks to address the problem early.

Indicators of banking stress now are the worst they have been in three years, he said, but they remain better than they were before the U.S. investment firm Lehman Brothers failed exactly three years ago -- on Sept. 15, 2008 -- setting off a worldwide credit crunch.

Financial markets have been hugely volatile for weeks on fears that Europe's debt crisis will spin out of control and threaten Europe's banking sector. Moody's ratings agency this week downgraded two major French banks on those concerns.

McCormick said the long-term impact of Thursday's move was uncertain.

"I think a lot of people took it as a red flag, but it's more of a pre-emptive strike to get ahead of the stresses that we had when Lehman failed," he said.

Markets and the euro currency were buoyed by Thursday's news. The 17-nation euro currency surged to a daily high of $1.3934 before retreating slightly to $1.3858. Shares in French bank BNP Paribas jumped 13.4 percent while Societe Generale gained 5.4 percent. Traders had singled them out in recent days as being particularly exposed to Greece's bad debts.

The markets needed the boost, because news out of Greece and Switzerland was particularly downbeat Thursday.

The Greek finance minister warned that the country must brace for a fourth year of recession, and data showed unemployment had hit a new high of 16.3 percent. As the government debated new public sector cuts to secure the cash lifeline protecting Greece from a chaotic bankruptcy, residents once again hit the streets of Athens to protest the austerity measures.

Finance Minister Evangelos Venizelos says the Greek economy will contract 5.3 percent this year, much more than previously expected, but emergency measures such as a new property tax will plug a revenue shortfall.

Swiss banking giant UBS, meanwhile, revealed that a rogue trader had caused it an estimated loss of $2 billion, forcing the bank to lower its earnings forecast. UBS shares slumped 11 percent and the news bolstered the view that trading needs to be more tightly regulated.

Traders will now focus on the talks in Wroclaw, Poland, where the eurozone's financial chiefs and Geithner are huddling to come up with more lasting solutions to the debt crisis.

The European ministers are expected to finalize the terms of Greece's second massive bailout, which had initially been agreed upon in July but ran into difficulties after Finland demanded extra guarantees for lending Athens money. That sparked a gold rush of demands from other small eurozone nations.

Markets are hoping the European officials will be able to smooth over those differences and show greater unity of purpose.

Geithner's presence is indicative of the amount of international pressure the European officials are under to get their act together. The fear is that a credit crunch in Europe could spread through the interconnected global financial system and choke growth in economies far from the eurozone.

The eurozone countries are pinning much of their hopes on a new and improved rescue fund, which they want to give the power to buy government bonds on the open market. But changes to the fund require parliamentary votes in member nations, many of which will take weeks more to come through.

The ECB hopes the dollar loans will ease the pressure in the short term. The tenders will be conducted in October, November and December at fixed interest rates and for unlimited amounts as long as the bank demanding the loan has collateral.

Analysts noted a potential downside to the central bank's move -- it might stigmatize any bank using it.

If the market learned which bank had tapped the facility, its shares would be punished and the bank might fail, said Peter Tchir, a former trader who now runs the hedge fund TF Market Advisors.

More likely, traders will have to guess which banks were borrowing dollars. That would be even worse, Tchir said, because "there's going to be speculation about banks that haven't even thought about using it."

In Washington, Christine Lagarde, managing director of the International Monetary Fund, called the central banks' move "exactly what is needed" to demonstrate a willingness to engage in a coordinated response to the European debt crisis.

"It shows they will do what it takes to maintain stability in the financial system," Lagarde said in an interview on CNBC TV.

The swap arrangement was one put into place in May 2010 when the European debt crisis first flared up. That swap arrangement replaced a swap facility that began in December 2007 to handle the global financial crisis but was allowed to expire in February 2010.

The way the swap works, the Fed provides dollars requested by the ECB, which distributes that money to commercial banks in Europe. There is no cap on the amount of dollars the Fed can provide. The Fed will receive euros to hold in return for the dollars and will also receive interest payments on the dollars it provides to the ECB.

The Fed's exposure will be to the ECB, not to the commercial banks, and the ECB will be obligated to repay the Fed in dollars when the swaps expire.

Daniel Wagner and Martin Crutsinger in Washington contributed to this report.

Large Sarge
15th September 2011, 02:11 PM
this is pretty big, top 5 central banks of the world are letting it go wide open...

Neuro
15th September 2011, 02:22 PM
Great! Everyone will get rich instantly! Why didn't anyone think of this before...

Large Sarge
15th September 2011, 02:30 PM
I will say it one more time, I think this is very very big for metals owners.,..

the top 5 central banks, running the printing presses "wide open" (openly admitting "trillions of dollars")...

I am not sure the world has ever seen anything like this before, we are really in uncharted waters (seriously)

5 central banks gunning the accelerator on the printing press...

simply unbelievable, seriously....

10 years from now, some historian will cite this as "the critical tipping point" for a loss of monetary sanity...

osoab
15th September 2011, 02:34 PM
I will say it one more time, I think this is very very big for metals owners.,..

the top 5 central banks, running the printing presses "wide open" (openly admitting "trillions of dollars")...

I am not sure the world has ever seen anything like this before, we are really in uncharted waters (seriously)

5 central banks gunning the accelerator on the printing press...

simply unbelievable, seriously....

10 years from now, some historian will cite this as "the critical tipping point" for a loss of monetary sanity...

With all that extra paper they can come in and crush the paper price of PMs. The Morgue will see sub 36.

Large Sarge
15th September 2011, 02:40 PM
With all that extra paper they can come in and crush the paper price of PMs. The Morgue will see sub 36.

reportedly $36 is the threshhold, and we have 11 more trading days for the month

gunDriller
15th September 2011, 02:42 PM
some Bozo on Yahoo is calling out "$1442 Gold".

i can't believe he gets paid to make predictions like that.

the only way that could be realistic is -
* Gold goes to $144,200 or $14,420, and they re-value the $ by dropping 1 or 2 zero's.
* in the ongoing crash, enough money is destroyed that we have massive jaw-dropping deflation, S&P below 666, etc.

Serpo
15th September 2011, 05:10 PM
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osoab
15th September 2011, 05:11 PM
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Why is Bennie dressed like Qaddafi?