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MNeagle
16th September 2011, 11:08 AM
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A five tonne, 20-year-old satellite has fallen out of orbit and is expected to crash somewhere on Earth on or around 24 September, according to Nasa.

Nasa says the risk to life from the UARS - Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/uars/index.html) - is just 1 in 3,200.

Hurtling at 5m (8km) per second, it could land anywhere between 57 degrees north and 57 degrees south of the equator - most of the populated world.
However, most of the satellite will break or burn up before reaching Earth.

Scientists have identified 26 separate pieces that could survive the fall through the earth's atmosphere, and debris could rain across an area 400-500km (250-310 miles) wide.

Nasa said scientists would only be able to make more accurate predictions about where the satellite might land two hours before it enters the Earth's atmosphere.

Re-entry

The 1 in 3,200 risk to public safety is higher than the 1 in 10,000 limit that Nasa aims for.

However, Nasa told reporters that nobody had ever been hurt by objects re-entering from space.

Continue reading the main story (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14952001#story_continues_2) Falling space debris


http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/53447000/jpg/_53447913_deltaintexas.jpg

Hardware re-enters at shallow angles (<1 degree)
Some 50 items weighing >1 tonne re-enter a year
Major break-up occurs about 80km altitude
10-40% of dry mass on orbit will survive
Debris spreads over long, thin "footprints"
It can be a hazard to people and property
Members of the public are not allowed to keep pieces of the satellite that may fall to Earth, or sell them on eBay, as they remain the property of the US government.

The UARS was launched in 1991 by the Discovery space shuttle, and was decommissioned in 2005.

The latest satellite re-entry is much smaller than Skylab, a satellite that re-entered the earth's atmosphere in 1979.

It was some 15 times heavier than the UARS, and when it crashed in Western Australia the US government was fined a $400 clean-up fee by the Australian government.

Sputnik 2 crashed on Earth in 1958, travelling from over New York to the Amazon in 10 minutes. It was viewed by many people and left a trail of brightly coloured sparks behind it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14952001

Dogman
16th September 2011, 11:13 AM
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/55417000/jpg/_55417318_012910112-1.jpg

A five tonne, 20-year-old satellite has fallen out of orbit and is expected to crash somewhere on Earth on or around 24 September, according to Nasa.

Nasa says the risk to life from the UARS - Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/uars/index.html) - is just 1 in 3,200.

Hurtling at 5m (8km) per second, it could land anywhere between 57 degrees north and 57 degrees south of the equator - most of the populated world.
However, most of the satellite will break or burn up before reaching Earth.

Scientists have identified 26 separate pieces that could survive the fall through the earth's atmosphere, and debris could rain across an area 400-500km (250-310 miles) wide.

Nasa said scientists would only be able to make more accurate predictions about where the satellite might land two hours before it enters the Earth's atmosphere.

Re-entry

The 1 in 3,200 risk to public safety is higher than the 1 in 10,000 limit that Nasa aims for.

However, Nasa told reporters that nobody had ever been hurt by objects re-entering from space.

Continue reading the main story (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14952001#story_continues_2) Falling space debris


http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/53447000/jpg/_53447913_deltaintexas.jpg


Hardware re-enters at shallow angles (<1 degree)
Some 50 items weighing >1 tonne re-enter a year
Major break-up occurs about 80km altitude
10-40% of dry mass on orbit will survive
Debris spreads over long, thin "footprints"
It can be a hazard to people and property

Members of the public are not allowed to keep pieces of the satellite that may fall to Earth, or sell them on eBay, as they remain the property of the US government.

The UARS was launched in 1991 by the Discovery space shuttle, and was decommissioned in 2005.

The latest satellite re-entry is much smaller than Skylab, a satellite that re-entered the earth's atmosphere in 1979.

It was some 15 times heavier than the UARS, and when it crashed in Western Australia the US government was fined a $400 clean-up fee by the Australian government.

Sputnik 2 crashed on Earth in 1958, travelling from over New York to the Amazon in 10 minutes. It was viewed by many people and left a trail of brightly coloured sparks behind it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14952001

Here is a link for a real time tracking map!

http://www.n2yo.com/?s=21701

madfranks
16th September 2011, 01:08 PM
Wow, that satellite is flying at almost 17,000 mph!

Joe King
16th September 2011, 01:11 PM
Yep, and the "almost" part is why it's falling.

Gaillo
16th September 2011, 01:16 PM
However, Nasa told reporters that nobody had ever been hurt by objects re-entering from space.

Tell that to the crew of the Columbia shuttle... ::)

Linky... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Columbia_disaster)

Dogman
16th September 2011, 01:18 PM
Tell that to the crew of the Columbia shuttle... ::)

Linky... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Columbia_disaster) Feeling chipper today I see! ;D

That statement as we know should have included, people on the ground not being hurt!

:D

Gaillo
16th September 2011, 01:19 PM
Feeling chipper today I see! ;D

That statement as we know should have included, people on the ground not being hurt!

:D

Well... they were on the ground afterwards! ;D

Sorry for the black humor...

Glass
16th September 2011, 01:21 PM
The latest satellite re-entry is much smaller than Skylab, a satellite that re-entered the earth's atmosphere in 1979.

It was some 15 times heavier than the UARS, and when it crashed in Western Australia the US government was fined a $400 clean-up fee by the Australian government.

I remember when it came down. It was a big national event. I'm surprised we didn't get a national holiday.

DMac
16th September 2011, 01:28 PM
When I was a kid living in Long Island there was an event that happened, reading this story reminded me of it. The military locked the area down afterwards. It was pretty surreal.

UFO Crash At South Haven Park? -Long Island, NY (http://www.subversiveelement.com/UFO_LI_Crash.html)

Ufo crash at South Haven Park, NY (11/24/92), page 1 (ATS thread) (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread36947/pg1)

UFO crash case on Long Island, New York (http://www.shoah.plus.com/801/downed/li.html)

(Almost) Everyone I knew assumed it was a military satellite - US or Russian. Some rare few thought it was a UFO :) Friends that worked in the park years later used to tell me that the area where the crash took place was still under lock down - no entry.

/tangent

gunDriller
16th September 2011, 01:34 PM
Sh!t ! that thing is FULL of precious metals !

it can land on my property. HERE BOY. HERE GIRL. Come on UARS, come to Daddy !

only problem is, in addition to heavy gold plating and silver in the photovoltaics, it would probably also have some Beryllium oxide (circuit substrate) and Beryllium (lightweight rigid metal).

But, still. it would make a cool mailbox. ;)