Disclosure Imminent? Two Underground NWO Bases Destroyed

[Serpo]

Is this true or not ....if so well........BOMBSHELL...........
http://divinecosmos.com/podcasts/Wilcock_Fulford_2011-9-14.mp3

80 different countries have now formed an alliance against the Old World Order / Nazi-esque cabal.

Two huge underground cities were destroyed on August 23rd -- which may be seen by historians as the critical moment in which the war was won.



It dosnt get much more weirder than this.......


This is David Wilcock, and you’re listening to another Divine Cosmos audioblog exclusive interview with Benjamin Fulford.

Mind boggling even by their standards

And its not even April the first................

Go to the link....

http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases


http://www.divinecosmos.com/images/image/lightning-WM_%281%29.jpg

(http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases)

[freespirit]

tagged...man, that's a lot of info to process!
...may take a couple of sittings to get thru it all!!

[General of Darkness]

oh boy, this reads like a bad B rated movie. And it's always the Nazi's isn't it, and the jews are just innocent victims. I'm like, nigga please.

[Serpo]

oh boy, this reads like a bad B rated movie. And it's always the Nazi's isn't it, and the jews are just innocent victims. I'm like, nigga please.

They are in this as well......

[wrs]

oh boy, this reads like a bad B rated movie. And it's always the Nazi's isn't it, and the jews are just innocent victims. I'm like, nigga please.

It does but Fulford has been claiming that the Japanese would be attacked by an earthquake weapon since 2007. There are enough pieces to this puzzle that are real to make the story credible. There are DUMBs, I know a guy that is working on one in Omaha for Lockheed Martin. There was a missile fired off the coast of California that none of our services acknowledged as being ours. There were two guys arrested trying to cash $134.5B in bearer bonds which were real even though it took the US Treasury a month to claim they weren't. Those guys never went to jail. WWII was won by the US and it was a war of conquest and looting, make no mistake about that. Our rocket science is of German origin so is our nuclear science.

There is a lot to what Fulford has been saying for years that makes sense. It may not be exactly as he has painted it, but why do you think gold is at $1800/oz? No, there are big things going on. Course if you read all of what David says you will really be in deep. I am not so sure about his views but Fulford has been saying what he has been saying for several years and his track record is looking better and better as time goes on. Controlling the money in today's world is the real power, people are locked into money as their key to life. If you control the money, you control the people, this is no B grade movie plot, it's real. The only reason that these kinds of things were put in B grade movies was to remove credibility from the notion that you live as nothing more than manipulated chattel.

[Ares]

I just have a hard time seeing David Wilcock as being credible. He's an arrogant douche bag.

"Let me say this, so you can avoid this problem if you run into me. There is a protocol for meeting public figures. There are rules of engagement. If you understand the rules, then you know that you do not bother them while seated at a table in a restaurant. Paul McCartney is well known for being very firm and quick-to-the-point -- "Excuse me, I'm eating" -- when people try to talk to him at his dinner table.

It's considered a rude confrontation and many public figures address it as such. I am always polite, but the table is a sacred private space and should be honored as such.

In general, you go to a conference to see me speak live. I am there to deliver the talk. If you also get to meet me face to face and shake my hand, that's great, but that is not something that should be expected. Some people assume that's part of the deal and get angry if it doesn't happen. We can't control that. Just be cool, and be glad that you're around such amazing people! "


-David Wilcock

[Large Sarge]

well I am halfway through this interview, and a lot of it does "ring true", as they say.

the parts on China being rebuked for buying that oil company (unocal I believe it was).

I mean they did a vote on it, and then China wanted to buy some ports in the U.S. (good infrastructure)

and that was shotdown without even a vote (national security)

then China started buying up africa, Central and South america (thats all very true, and the timeline is accurate)

going to work through the rest of this...

[wrs]

I just have a hard time seeing David Wilcock as being credible. He's an arrogant douche bag.

-David Wilcock

Well as I said, I don't think too much of his stuff, I have read some of it and it's mostly just ramblings and repetition. However, I have been folllowing Fulford for several years and believe that there is something there. I am not sure what it is but he has been talking about the earthquake generating technology for years and his explanation of events dovetails with what little is reported in the MSM. As it goes, this interview is just a way to use Fulford's credibility to push himself and I am sure Fulford realizes that but it's worth it to get the message out.

[Spectrism]

And I bet Iceland was attacked by a volcano weapon.
Next we will hear about the Pacific ocean being attacked by a water weapon.

[Plastic]

That was so weird... I... almost.... believe... it....

Maybe I will AFTER the free energy/levitation devices get released. Personally, I'd love to build a flying toilet, pilot the bugger over the rockafeller mansion and *flussssssshhh*.

[Twisted Titan]

Wilcock is still milking that casey doppelganger???

I cant wait till 2012 comes and goes and this ghoul is standing with hat in hand.

Im waiting for the new vision that 2012 has been post poned till 2024

[chud]

Is this true or not ....if so well........BOMBSHELL...........


80 different countries have now formed an alliance against the Old World Order / Nazi-esque cabal.

Two huge underground cities were destroyed on August 23rd -- which may be seen by historians as the critical moment in which the war was won.





Interesting reading, thanks Serpo.

[vacuum]

I'll take a look at the interview soon, but was there ever a source on the 2 'nukes' going off? As I remember, Sorcha Faal was the first one to say something to that effect, and I never saw anything else that didn't lead back to that original article. Keep in mind that both of those quakes happened on the same fault and close to the same latitude (which also was the same as the Japan quake).

[Serpo]

Interesting reading, thanks Serpo.

Yes thats exactly what it is ...interesting reading.......

[JJ.G0ldD0t]

I'll check this out later....

But the whole ninjas thing kinda ruins it for me.

http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/ninja.jpg.jpeg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbToLUYVkKs&feature=player_embedded#!

really......

[ArgenteumTelum]

See Serpo's thread.... "Disclosure Imminent"

[Horn]

They are in this as well......

Who, The niggas, or the nazi's?

I have that same one track mind when it comes to eating too.

Its like whoever brings War to the "useless eaters" will be the final enemy.

Israel was given a slight fingering at about 30 minutes in...felt good..

[PatColo]

Nuked Underground Base Causing Massive Sinkhole In Virginia? (http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1113/527/Nuked_Underground_Base_Causing_Massive_Sinkhole_In _Virginia.html)


Sunday, September 18, 2011 9:15

[Steal]

that sinkhole is too far away from epicenter. If I thought would even be remotly interesting, would pop over and check it out, round trip would take about half hour.

[Neuro]

Maybe there is something behind the claims of nukes...:

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/08/6-strange-anomalies-with-virginia.html

Even though any claims coming from Benjamin Fulford should be taken with a Siberian saltmine... That may have been the purpose of his statement also, to immediatelly discredit the notion, that it actually happened!

[Neuro]

that sinkhole is too far away from epicenter. If I thought would even be remotly interesting, would pop over and check it out, round trip would take about half hour.

How far away from the epicenter is it? Bring a Geiger counter!

[Horn]

That may have been the purpose of his statement also, to immediatelly discredit the notion, that it actually happened!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6fOvAXxoGEk/S2XyY9sJz9I/AAAAAAAACwg/ZbNQ8djv7Po/s400/AwJeezNotThisShitAgain.jpg

[Dogman]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6fOvAXxoGEk/S2XyY9sJz9I/AAAAAAAACwg/ZbNQ8djv7Po/s400/AwJeezNotThisShitAgain.jpgKinda like this one!

http://elia.jootamam.net/kuvat/random/asdd/not_this_shit_again3.jpg





;D

[Serpo]

Who, The niggas, or the nazi's?

I have that same one track mind when it comes to eating too.

Its like whoever brings War to the "useless eaters" will be the final enemy.

Israel was given a slight fingering at about 30 minutes in...felt good..

Israel I meant......

[Serpo]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6fOvAXxoGEk/S2XyY9sJz9I/AAAAAAAACwg/ZbNQ8djv7Po/s400/AwJeezNotThisShitAgain.jpg

Take one with water ,maybe two in this case

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/aspirin-ch.jpg

[uranian]

In general, you go to a conference to see me speak live. I am there to deliver the talk. If you also get to meet me face to face and shake my hand, that's great, but that is not something that should be expected. Some people assume that's part of the deal and get angry if it doesn't happen. We can't control that. Just be cool, and be glad that you're around such amazing people! "

ahahHhhAHAahaha. thanks for that, ares.

[Serpo]

Maybe there is something behind the claims of nukes...:

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/08/6-strange-anomalies-with-virginia.html

Even though any claims coming from Benjamin Fulford should be taken with a Siberian saltmine... That may have been the purpose of his statement also, to immediatelly discredit the notion, that it actually happened!

Interesting article ,thanks Neuro

something from that link.....




http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Uhf-sM9lXKU/TlmN019K4RI/AAAAAAAAKuU/G37ZOb0Vn7Y/s1600/nuclear-detonation-seismograph-082311.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Uhf-sM9lXKU/TlmN019K4RI/AAAAAAAAKuU/G37ZOb0Vn7Y/s1600/nuclear-detonation-seismograph-082311.jpg)






Press Core writes, the green lines indicate the blunt tremor that was felt in Washington D.C. and the black lines are a transparent overlay of a normal earthquake seismograph from a pdf file from Virginia Division Mineral Resources on Earthquakes (http://www.dmme.virginia.gov/DMR3/dmrpdfs/EARTHQUAKES.pdf). That file describes a typical natural occurring earthquake as:

When a fault ruptures, energy is released in the form of seismic waves. The first waves to reach the earth’s surface are primary or 'P' waves (Figure 2). P waves are compressional waves that travel at a speed of about four miles per second near the surface – faster as depth increases. The next waves to reach the earth’s surface are secondary or 'S' waves. S waves are shear waves that move at a speed of about 1.5 miles per second. P and S waves are body waves that travel through the earth much like sonar waves travel through water. Surface waves, which are slower than S waves, travel along the surface of the earth much like waves at the surface of the ocean. S waves and surface waves cause the most destruction at the earth’s surface.The article concludes; "What is missing from the seismograph for the Washington DC area 5.8 magnitude earthquake are the primary or 'P' waves. All earthquakes that are the direct result of fault rupture have these primary or 'P' waves. Nuclear detonations do not."

also.....
http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=4009

[Large Sarge]

I have been thinking on this interview, and I will listen to it again in the near future.

but I suspect a lot of it is true.

it is pretty widely known (georgia guidestones for example), that these psychopaths want to kill 85-90% of the worlds population.

thats over 5 billion people.

now if even 1/10 of 1% woke upto the conspiracy...

well,
1% = 50 million

1/10 of 1% = 5 million

I am guessing the total elite are perhaps 10,000 or less

including all the military/defense/intelligence folks, you get maybe 2-3 hundred thousand (guesstimate)

the point being is the numbers are so off....

so I always wondered with the internet, if even a small percentage of any other group woke up, well its game over...

[oldmansmith]

so I always wondered with the internet, if even a small percentage of any other group woke up, well its game over...

That is why the internet will go down one day. Maybe soon.

[MNeagle]

That is why the internet will go down one day. Maybe soon.

Only for us, not them.

[Large Sarge]

like remember awhile back, Jim sinclair, and jim willie (they were the first ones), they talked about a floor on gold & silver from Asia.

Sinclair had some nickname for them, Cannot remember it... "something phat"

he really started promoting these "rogue asian" buyers after gold passed $1,000.00

He said they would never let gold drop below that ($1000.00) again.

then we have this wynter benton group, destroying the silver market.

now some of these folks are in it for a profit, but some I suspect want to bring the system down....

[Horn]

Interesting article ,thanks Neuro

something from that link.....

Then the other graph from Colorado should look similar..

This could have been the evidence they were pointing to for a chance at another attack occurring on 9/11 this year...

[Neuro]

Then the other graph from Colorado should look similar..

True, maybe it was only one bunker that was nuked... There was 3-4 aftershocks, could a nuke set off natural occuring aftershocks. 20.000 people missing should be noticed though, even if they are under maximum security clearance. No?

[Joe King]

True, maybe it was only one bunker that was nuked... Or possibly even none.


There was 3-4 aftershocks, could a nuke set off natural occuring aftershocks.Nope.


20,000 people missing should be noticed though, even if they are under maximum security clearance. No?Yep.

[Neuro]

JK, how do you know an underground nuke can't give rise to natural aftershocks?

Despite anomalies I am leaning towards this was a natural occurring earthquake. A 5.8 on the Richterscale must have been a huge atomic bomb, maybe in the megaton range I think...

[Joe King]

JK, how do you know an underground nuke can't give rise to natural aftershocks?Why should it? It's a one-time event. ASFAIK, other man-made earthquakes have not produced aftershocks like natural earthquakes do.
A natural one is the result of movements that aren't a one-time event. So things are still shifting around afterwards. Hence the aftershocks.



Despite anomalies I am leaning towards this was a natural occurring earthquake. A 5.8 on the Richterscale must have been a huge atomic bomb, maybe in the megaton range I think...I'm with you on this. As for the anomalies, there was another thread where someone posted the actual seismograph readings and they looked nothing like the one in green posted in this thread.

[Dogman]

Why should it? It's a one-time event. ASFAIK, other man-made earthquakes have not produced aftershocks like natural earthquakes do.
A natural one is the result of movements that aren't a one-time event. So things are still shifting around afterwards. Hence the aftershocks.


I'm with you on this. As for the anomalies, there was another thread where someone posted the actual seismograph readings and they looked nothing like the one in green posted in this thread.

But,,,But,, I see them use nukes to start and stop earthquakes all the time, in movies and t.v!


1092

[Neuro]

Just read up on the Seismic effect of nukes:


Cannikin was detonated on November 6, 1971, as the thirteenth test of the Operation Grommet (1971–1972) underground nuclear test series. The announced yield was 5 megatons (21*PJ) – the largest underground nuclear test in US history.[23] (Estimates for the precise yield range from 4.4[34] to 5.2[35] megatons or 18 to 22*PJ). The ground lifted 20 feet (6*m), caused by an explosive force almost 400 times the power of the Hiroshima bomb.[36] Subsidence and faulting at the site created a new lake, over a mile wide.[3] The explosion caused a seismic shock of 7.0 on the Richter scale, causing rockfalls and turf slides of a total of 35,000 square feet (3,300*m2).[23] Though earthquakes and tsunamis predicted by environmentalists did not occur,[32] a number of small tectonic events did occur in the following weeks, (some registering as high as 4.0 on the richter scale) thought to be due to the interaction of the explosion with local tectonic stresses.[37]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amchitka
I guess a 3-400 kt TNT equivalent size of a nuke could create an earthquake of 5.8 magnitude, and it could create smaller aftershocks as was seen after the Amchitka nuke.

As a sidenote a 150 kton nuke at wtc should have created an earthquake that was at least 5.3 or so on the richterscale. If I recall it correct the seismic force of the collapsing towers were less than 3 which is at least 2 magnitudes lower...

[Joe King]

Well, perhaps they can, but they're still having aftershocks and its been more than a few weeks. Same for the one in Colorado.
....and that's a good point you made on the WTC nuke theory, Neuro.

[Awoke]

But,,,But,, I see them use nukes to start and stop earthquakes all the time, in movies and t.v!



You're getting confused with asteroids and comets!

[Dogman]

You're getting confused with asteroids and comets! Not really, just did not include them!!




;D


Edit: I saw all of that on t.v/movies and read it on the Internet, so it must be true!




;D

[Neuro]

Just found some seismographs from the virginia earthquake, apart from the first one it appears like a normal earthquake. The first one was stated as an anomaly because the equipment couldn't handle the amount of shaking due to its tuning...

http://www.geol.vt.edu/outreach/vtso/2011/0823-louisa/seismograms1.png

[Neuro]

Here is the one reported on earlier, this one is on paper, the others are electronic images. I would trust the paper more than the electronic seismographs...

http://www2.nbc17.com/mgmedia/image/0/354/155172/seismograph/
http://www2.nbc17.com/news/2011/aug/23/13/59-earthquake-rocks-virginia-ar-1324668/

[Horn]

Despite anomalies I am leaning towards this was a natural occurring earthquake. A 5.8 on the Richterscale must have been a huge atomic bomb, maybe in the megaton range I think...

The anomaly being a epicenter depth of a football field?

[Horn]

Israel I meant......




I just want to know who my allies are.

I'm starting to think illegal immigrants are the only hope.

[Serpo]

https://www.llnl.gov/str/gifs/Walter2.gif


https://www.llnl.gov/str/Walter.html

[Large Sarge]

a number of sources were saying/reporting afterwards that there were no aftershocks for the quakes....

and that was one of the things that raised the suspicion level so much..

[Horn]

a number of sources were saying/reporting afterwards that there were no aftershocks for the quakes....

and that was one of the things that raised the suspicion level so much..

That's correct, and other anomalous events that Neuro seems to design away like a mason.

[Joe King]

Here is the one reported on earlier, this one is on paper, the others are electronic images. I would trust the paper more than the electronic seismographs...

I'd trust the electronic ones more than a paper one. They'd be more accurate IMHO.
...and it's not like this is an unprecedented quake. There's a long history of quakes exactly like this one East of the Rockies. They just don't happen extremely often and tend to be felt over a wide area. ie they've different characteristics than California-type quakes.

[Large Sarge]

well, I have lived in the southeast for 20+ years, and have never felt an earthquake, and I felt that one, and it was like 600 miles from me....

and it had no aftershocks...

afterwards, they were trying to explain the "no aftershocks", and they started saying it was a "prequake", not a real earthquake....

that a bigger quake was coming....

I guess while that rumor was circulating, they had time to dummy up some seismic records, and post them on the web...

I think most of this whole thread/story is true, I think someone bombed some of our deep bases...

one thing I have been watching for, and have not seen yet, is that TPTB always have a meme they run for so many months, could be the bird flu scare, or another scarey mooslem loose, or whatever?

but it is all well scripted, and thought out, and they push it on all their channels...

well what I see here recently is not much, trivia, news fill, no overriding threat, no meme I can discern.

now it could be just halftime for TPTB, or it could be they are in complete panic/meltdown mode

Also, I am very aware that as Gold has fallen all the way to $1770, Silver barely moved, staying at $39.00 (touching $38.80 briefly)

but still almost $3.00 from the magic $36, while gold was taken to to the woodshed and beat like a red headed step child....

now to me that speaks volumes that the wynter benton group is real.

most of the real veterans from GIM remember the days well, Gold would drop 2%, and silver would fall 10%+ (or 20%)

Well gold had the shit knocked out of it, and silver just stood there grinning....

[Joe King]

well, I have lived in the southeast for 20+ years, and have never felt an earthquake, and I felt that one, and it was like 600 miles from me....The bedrock in the East is more solid than in the West, therefore the vibrations carry alot further.
...and just because you haven't felt one doesn't mean they don't ever happen. They just tend to not happen often enough for the average person to feel multiple large ones over the course of a normal lifetime.



and it had no aftershocks...What do you mean? There was an aftershock just last week.



afterwards, they were trying to explain the "no aftershocks", and they started saying it was a "prequake", not a real earthquake....

that a bigger quake was coming....Numerous aftershocks followed the main tremor. The first four (of moment magnitude 2.8, 2.2, 4.2 and 3.4) occurred within 12 hours of the main shock. A 2.5-magnitude shock occurred just after midnight on August 25, followed at 1:08 am EST by the strongest: a magnitude-4.5 aftershock that woke many residents in Northern Virginia and Washington, D.C. and was felt as far away as New England, Georgia, and Illinois (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Virginia_earthquake#Aftershocks)

So we had a quake, followed by smaller aftersshocks, followed by a bigger aftershock followed by smaller aftershocks.....sounds like a normal quake to me.


Also, if we were to believe the Russian who proposes the WTC nuke theory, he says an underground blast in the bedrock wouldn't have been felt if it were only 77meters deep. If that's supposedly true, you shouldn't have been able to feel one on the surface in Virginia either.
So which is it? Feel it, or not feel it?




I guess while that rumor was circulating, they had time to dummy up some seismic records, and post them on the web...

I think most of this whole thread/story is true, I think someone bombed some of our deep bases...And where did the info that confirms this actually come from? Another Russian guy?



one thing I have been watching for, and have not seen yet, is that TPTB always have a meme they run for so many months, could be the bird flu scare, or another scarey mooslem loose, or whatever?

but it is all well scripted, and thought out, and they push it on all their channels...

well what I see here recently is not much, trivia, news fill, no overriding threat, no meme I can discern.

now it could be just halftime for TPTB, or it could be they are in complete panic/meltdown mode
Why can't it just be an earthquake like many that have happened in the East over the decades/centuries.

http://www.geo.mtu.edu/UPSeis/area.html

If you notice in that link there is a diagram from 1977 that shows a moderate risk of damage from earthquakes in the area this one happened in.




Also, I am very aware that as Gold has fallen all the way to $1770, Silver barely moved, staying at $39.00 (touching $38.80 briefly)

but still almost $3.00 from the magic $36, while gold was taken to to the woodshed and beat like a red headed step child....

now to me that speaks volumes that the wynter benton group is real.

most of the real veterans from GIM remember the days well, Gold would drop 2%, and silver would fall 10%+ (or 20%)

Well gold had the shit knocked out of it, and silver just stood their grinning....It also just stood there grinning while gold had its big run-up recently.
The reason gold ran up is because it was being bought at that price in sufficient qty to make that be the price.
ie it was a fear-based move that made it run up in price. When the fear subsides a bit, there's not as many buyers, but sellers are still wanting the $1800+ so when the buyers pull back a bit, sudden over supply that drives the price down.

It's not voo-doo or something.

[keehah]

... he says an underground blast in the bedrock wouldn't have been felt if it were only 77meters deep. If that's supposedly true, you shouldn't have been able to feel one on the surface in Virginia either.
So which is it? Feel it, or not feel it?

Ignoring your attempt to frame the debate, several of us saw in real time, NATO bombs in the Ocean off Libya be recorded as large earthquakes on recording sites before they were scrubbed.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?49076-George-Noorey-just-said-there-was-an-8.4-earthquake-off-the-coast-of-Lybia

That said, this whole underground nuke story is great fun to strike a notion of fear in the security of the guilty and a black eye to the 666 penis. But I'll need more than just a Sorcha report before assigning real probability to that particular made it happen theory.

[Joe King]

Ignoring your attempt to frame the debate, several of us saw in real time, NATO bombs in the Ocean off Libya be recorded as large earthquakes on recording sites before they were scrubbed.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?49076-George-Noorey-just-said-there-was-an-8.4-earthquake-off-the-coast-of-LybiaIt stands to reason that if one nuke going off in the bedrock won't be felt, any other in the bedrock shouldn't be felt either.
Although I realize that any nuke going off in the bedrock would most certainly be felt, I was just pointing out how some of these theories that get floated seem to contradict each other.



That said, this whole underground nuke story is great fun to strike a notion of fear in the security of the guilty and a black eye to the 666 penis. But I'll need more than just a Sorcha report before assigning real probability to such an event.Exactly. It amazes me the life that gets blown into some of theories that originate from one guy with no kind of proof at all.

[Neuro]

I'd trust the electronic ones more than a paper one. They'd be more accurate IMHO.
...and it's not like this is an unprecedented quake. There's a long history of quakes exactly like this one East of the Rockies. They just don't happen extremely often and tend to be felt over a wide area. ie they've different characteristics than California-type quakes.
Well an electronic image is much easier to substitute and/or alter if you would be so inclined. I can think of a few reasons why the wolves wouldn't like the sheep to know they were nuked...

[Joe King]

Well an electronic image is much easier to substitute and/or alter if you would be so inclined. I can think of a few reasons why the wolves wouldn't like the sheep to know they were nuked...
Heck, we've "nuked" ourselselves like probably 900 times. Even if true, would one more in some deep underground base no one even knows about make any difference? Sure wouldn't be any fallout from it.



US atomic testing fallout maps. {you wanna be where it's darkest blue}

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VUMDHE0U0-M/TDYaLnwUtEI/AAAAAAAAD_o/kv8Up3mz2lQ/s1600/radexp01.jpg

http://mason.gmu.edu/~kcherrix/Fallout%20Zone%20copy.jpg

[Neuro]

Heck, we've "nuked" ourselselves like probably 900 times. Even if true, would one more in some deep underground base no one even knows about make any difference? Sure wouldn't be any fallout

I think TPTB thinks that it would be better if J6P doesn't know that a secret underground base a stonethrow away from the white house, congress, senate and Pentagon, was nuked by a different TPTB faction. They may even consider altering a couple of seismographs, and insert a dozen or so of weak aftershocks that are not normaly sensed by humans [GASP!]. in the hypothetical scenario...

[PatColo]

Nuked Underground Base Causing Massive Sinkhole In Virginia? (http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1113/527/Nuked_Underground_Base_Causing_Massive_Sinkhole_In _Virginia.html)


Sunday, September 18, 2011 9:15

http://beforeitsnews.com/ckfinder/userfiles/0000000000003011/images/virgsinkhole.jpg (http://beforeitsnews.com/ckfinder/userfiles/0000000000003011/images/virgsinkhole.jpg)


I'd sure be interested to hear what if any geiger-counter readings were found around the above, maybe some soil & groundwater readings..

one problem would be, any radiation measured could be attributed to the several nuke plant "accidents" which have happened this year.

[Large Sarge]

It also just stood there grinning while gold had its big run-up recently.
The reason gold ran up is because it was being bought at that price in sufficient qty to make that be the price.
ie it was a fear-based move that made it run up in price. When the fear subsides a bit, there's not as many buyers, but sellers are still wanting the $1800+ so when the buyers pull back a bit, sudden over supply that drives the price down.

It's not voo-doo or something.

you obviously are not aware of the silver story...
someone can open a 9 month total world silver supply short position in a few minutes, use electronic algorithms, and flood the market with "perceived paper silver".

drive the price down without bringing any real silver to the market.

Eric Sprott bought 90 million ounces of physical silver to start, for his fund. took him 9 months to find on the market, and he had to source it through the miners and refiners directly.

J.P. Morgan has an open short poition of 400 million ounces.

This when silver has been in a deficit for the last 20+ years, where deficits are 20% annually. versus world production.

[Joe King]

you obviously are not aware of the silver story...
someone can open a 9 month total world silver supply short position in a few minutes, use electronic algorithms, and flood the market with "perceived paper silver".

drive the price down without bringing any real silver to the market.All that's going to do is to eventually dig their grave that much deeper.
I for one welcome that eventuality.



Eric Sprott bought 90 million ounces of physical silver to start, for his fund. took him 9 months to find on the market, and he had to source it through the miners and refiners directly.

J.P. Morgan has an open short poition of 400 million ounces.

This when silver has been in a deficit for the last 20+ years, where deficits are 20% annually. versus world production.I totally understand where you're comin' from, and I agree. I just think the game will be played out to its final and agonizing hand. It's a fun watch, for sure.

Oh happy days will be here again. :D

[PatColo]

not vouching for these, just throwing into the stew. Incidentally, very displeased to see this fancy new tech which beforeitsnews.com is deploying, where an ad is placed over an IMAGE (ala youtube ads over their vids), which partially blocks the image, and if you want to remove it you need to click the deliberately-tiny little 'X' -- don't accidentally miss the 'X' now, coz you know what'll happen... :'(:-X

Scientists Confirm Fulford's Story Of Nuclear Attack On Washington's Underground Sanctuary (http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1122/881/Scientists_Confirm_Fulfords_Story_Of_Nuclear_Attac k_On_Washingtons_Underground_Sanctuary.html)



The ET Disclosure War: NWO Bunker Destruction Explained In Depth (http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1123/308/The_ET_Disclosure_War:_NWO_Bunker_Destruction_Expl ained_In_Depth.html)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMLKwIQQncU

[PatColo]

it appears some mod has edited my siggy? I didn't make that fake elections thing into a hyperlink, ???

anyways this'n's good, fair & balanced I'd say,

Were NORAD And Shadow Gov’t Bases The Nuke/Quake Targets? (http://www.naturalmedicine.com/blogs/wondering/2011/09/20/were-norad-and-shadow-govt-bases-the-nukequake-targets/)

Posted on September 20, 2011 (http://www.naturalmedicine.com/blogs/wondering/2011/09/20/were-norad-and-shadow-govt-bases-the-nukequake-targets/) by Zen Gardner (http://www.naturalmedicine.com/blogs/wondering/author/wondering/)
by Zen Gardner While just the idea that earthquakes could be attacks on underground bases by nukes and/or HAARP type earthquake-prompting technologies, questions surrounding the Virginia earthquake event keep surfacing, including a massive sinkhole that appeared in the vicinity following … Continue reading → (http://www.naturalmedicine.com/blogs/wondering/2011/09/20/were-norad-and-shadow-govt-bases-the-nukequake-targets/)

[Neuro]

Great article PatColo, they were close but not at the bases. Maybe the intent was to scare the leadership, give the signal, look what we can do, we can take away your hideyholes...

[PatColo]

I just finally watched this "Conspiracy Theory" episode now, with keen interest in this bunker/nuke theory- believe it first aired in Jan '11. Jump to parts 5 & 6 for focus on Cheyenne Mtn Colorado, and the huge bunker thought to be beneath Denver Intl Airport:

Jesse Ventura Conspiracy Theory - 2012



Uploaded by saluki420 (http://www.youtube.com/user/saluki420) on Jan 14, 2010
Apocalypse 2012

Do scientists really believe Earth is headed for disaster in 2012? Is our government secretly planning to save and protect the elite - while leaving the rest of us to fend for ourselves?

Time is of the essence as Jesse Ventura chases down the 2012 conspiracy. It began as an ancient Mayan prediction that the world would come to an end. Now, experts reveal solar storms may lead to catastrophe in the very same year.

Jesse searches for evidence that our government is scrambling to prepare for a major disaster. He discovers signs of secret underground bunkers being built in places ranging from the Nevada desert to the White House, including a massive project under construction beneath a major metropolitan airport. Get a look inside those bunkers and decide for yourself if the government is preparing for some to survive while the rest of us are left to fry in an earthly hell.

Jesse Ventura Conspiracy Theory - 2012 Part 1 of 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOWWIDT910I)


Jesse Ventura Conspiracy Theory - 2012 Part 2 of 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73dAikiXoOM&feature=related)


Jesse Ventura Conspiracy Theory - 2012 Part 3 of 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFuGBKcyEQw&feature=related)


Jesse Ventura Conspiracy Theory - 2012 Part 4 of 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h3dx9baiwE&feature=related)


Jesse Ventura Conspiracy Theory - 2012 Part 5 of 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQHxm9gWkNo&feature=related)


Jesse Ventura Conspiracy Theory - 2012 Part 6 of 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP7kMdLHc98&feature=related)

[Horn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5YjbQFIIVs&feature=player_embedded

A frightening foreign military intelligence directorate (GRU (http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20090319/165389424.html) ) circulating in the Kremlin today states that over the past nearly 36 hours the vast intercontinental military tunnel complex constructed by the United States Air force over the past nearly 45 years was hit with two powerful nuclear explosions at its main terminuses and Virginia used nearly exclusively by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).

According to this report, this unprecedented nuclear attack began on the evening of 22 August when one of the main air pressure relief tunnels for this CIA tunnel, located at MacDill Air Force Base (http://www.macdill.af.mil/) in Tampa Florida, was forced open allowing millions of of air to rush suddenly into the atmosphere. The unique sound of this event was video [3rd video] during a baseball being played at Tropicana Field near MacDill, though US officials blamed the “mystery noise” on a faulty sound system (http://www.sportsgrid.com/mlb/tropicana-field-is-haunted-by-g-g-g-g-ghoooooosts/) .


http://wikistrike.over-blog.com/article-seisme-usa-russia-todayparle-d-une-explosion-nucleaire-in-english-82395408.html

[Horn]

Image from Denver looks the same, conclusive.

http://members.beforeitsnews.com/ckfinder/userfiles/0000000000003011/images/Denvergraph.gif

[Joe King]

According to this report, this unprecedented nuclear attack began on the evening of 22 August when one of the main air pressure relief tunnels for this CIA tunnel, located at MacDill Air Force Base (http://www.macdill.af.mil/) in Tampa Florida, was forced open allowing millions of of air to rush suddenly into the atmosphere.

Why would tunnels be over-pressurized to the point of so much excess air trapped in them that it could be heard escaping from miles away when a door gets opened?
....and millions of what?

[Horn]

Why would tunnels be over-pressurized to the point of so much excess air trapped in them

the scientific principal is the same as when you sit down in your bubble wrap suit, joe.

1114

[Joe King]

So the extra air, is for padding? lol
...and millions of bubbles? lol

Seriously, why would there be that much extra pressure in the tunnels? Are they also hyperbaric chambers, these tunnels?

Also, temps in deep tunnels and mines can be quite high. Increasing the pressure would only make it that much hotter.
IMO, the claim of air escaping really doesn't make a lot of sense.

[Large Sarge]

there might be some gases, or other issues at that level, perhaps even moisture, the pressure might alleviate that.

and simple physics tells you put an explosive in a long pipe, its going to blow out the other side, whether or not the pipe was pressurized.

put a nuke in that tunnel and its going to blow out....

the energy release is immense.

[mick silver]

pat i heard the same thing from a guy i knew that worked on Denver Intl Airport that there a tunnel under it . at the time i just blow it off as a story time hour

[Joe King]

there might be some gases, or other issues at that level, perhaps even moisture, the pressure might alleviate that.

and simple physics tells you put an explosive in a long pipe, its going to blow out the other side, whether or not the pipe was pressurized.

put a nuke in that tunnel and its going to blow out....

the energy release is immense.Right, but if you read the theory it say this "millions escaping" was before the supposed blast.
...and again, millions of what?

[Neuro]

Right, but if you read the theory it say this "millions escaping" was before the supposed blast.
...and again, millions of what?

Cubic feet of air, it said in the article at the link...

[mick silver]

if you builded theys tunnels would you not have to keep the bad air out because if there was a bad war there would be stuff in the air that you would not want in your new living space . so you would have to be forcing the air back and if it was open the air would rush out of tunnel

[Joe King]

Cubic feet of air, it said in the article at the link...Ok, thanks. The post I quoted just said...

was forced open allowing millions of of air to rush suddenly...


Still, why have tunnels pressurized to the degree needed to be able to hear it escaping from miles away? That'd be a lot of air, requiring a lot of compressors.
....and do you realize just how good of a tunnel you'd have to have in order to pressurize it and hold it at that pressure? With no leaks? We can't even build a pipeline that doesn't leak.

[Joe King]

if you builded theys tunnels would you not have to keep the bad air out because if there was a bad war there would be stuff in the air that you would not want in your new living space . so you would have to be forcing the air back
What you are referring to is known as positive air pressure which is used to keep outside air from getting into an area.
...but it requires openings to allow air to pass back into the lower presure area.


If anything, I'd think you'd want a negative pressure in your tunnel to help pull fresh air in. Fresh air in a tunnel is a very important thing.

[vacuum]

Image from Denver looks the same, conclusive.

http://members.beforeitsnews.com/ckfinder/userfiles/0000000000003011/images/Denvergraph.gif
Thanks. This is a very significant revelation if accurate. Are there any official sources of this data?

[Joe King]

It still wouldn't require over pressurization to the degree needed to produce the sounds that are being attributed to the noises heard.

It only takes a small amount of positive pressure to keep stuff out. Think of how a clean room is set up.

[Horn]

Thanks. This is a very significant revelation if accurate. Are there any official sources of this data?


http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_18737351

[Horn]

It still wouldn't require over pressurization to the degree needed to produce the sounds that are being attributed to the noises heard.

It only takes a small amount of positive pressure to keep stuff out. Think of how a clean room is set up.

scroll down joe, the pressure assist wave is at the bottom.

http://www.soundsnap.com/tags/toilet_flush

[Joe King]

Here's one from the March 11 Earthquake in Japan as recorded on the same equipment. Notice that it starts out big too.
Also, these were recorded by a 7th grade Earth Science class.


https://www.kentdenver.org/ftpimages/311/misc/misc_70711.jpg

[Glass]

So what about the video of those same sounds in Europe. I think it was in the Checz lands somewhere. Are the tunnels and terminuses there as well?

[vacuum]

The whole sounds conjecture was from Sorcha Faal's original post. It might be completely irrelevant to this discussion, unless it occurred within minutes of the earthquakes (don't know, haven't kept up on it).

The point is that refuting these strange sounds doesn't have any bearing on this subject other than proving Sorcha made it up.

[Joe King]

Sorcha made it up.

That'd get my vote.

[wrs]

So why did Bernanke do what he did today? Any clue about what today means for the US deficit spending without QE? The deficit cannot be funded, period. Looks to me like Sun Tzu was correct but I think that some shots were fired. However, most of the work has been done by the Chinese owning us through our profligate indebtedness.

[Horn]

So why did Bernanke do what he did today?

You know its D-day when bankers leave the bank.

[PatColo]

The whole sounds conjecture was from Sorcha Faal's original post. It might be completely irrelevant to this discussion, unless it occurred within minutes of the earthquakes (don't know, haven't kept up on it).

The point is that refuting these strange sounds doesn't have any bearing on this subject other than proving Sorcha made it up.

eggsackly. This underground bases nuked theory is intriguing, good fantasy/escapist-entertainment fodder until further notice, with just enough evidence/reality-potential, like a Tom Clancy novel or something-- in fact it's so compelling because it "suggests" there's been a "black swan event" for TPTB, or perhaps "white swan" for humanity, in this all-too-real horrifying march to their NWO nightmare. But I think the earth groan-sounds angle is a road to nowhere all considered, in the context of this fiction-until-further-notice novel, so I for one don't really care to micro-analyze it. "New information" coming out could change that of course, but as it stands... well carry on if you're so inclined, :-X

[Glass]

It is interesting to speculate on what else might have happened. It does seem some coincidence with the explosions in 2 main areas. Maybe something else happened down there and they had to shut it down.

[Horn]

NWO includes a U.S. military downgrade does it not?

And a one fail swoop decision by China to turn its military over to the U.N. while reinstating their Buddhist priests.

[Joe King]

It is interesting to speculate on what else might have happened. It does seem some coincidence with the explosions in 2 main areas. Maybe something else happened down there and they had to shut it down.But speculation is all it is based upon. Well, that and the word of one person whos credibility is sorely lacking.

[JDRock]

oh boy, this reads like a bad B rated movie. And it's always the Nazi's isn't it, and the jews are just innocent victims. I'm like, nigga please.

it always HAS been the nazis....the ASHKEnazi jews behind hitler ( jew shikelgruber and jew stalin = shakashvilli) check it out hitler had jews on his cabinet...just another jew tool..

[JDRock]

Interesting article ,thanks Neuro

something from that link.....




http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Uhf-sM9lXKU/TlmN019K4RI/AAAAAAAAKuU/G37ZOb0Vn7Y/s1600/nuclear-detonation-seismograph-082311.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Uhf-sM9lXKU/TlmN019K4RI/AAAAAAAAKuU/G37ZOb0Vn7Y/s1600/nuclear-detonation-seismograph-082311.jpg)






Press Core writes, the green lines indicate the blunt tremor that was felt in Washington D.C. and the black lines are a transparent overlay of a normal earthquake seismograph from a pdf file from Virginia Division Mineral Resources on Earthquakes (http://www.dmme.virginia.gov/DMR3/dmrpdfs/EARTHQUAKES.pdf). That file describes a typical natural occurring earthquake as:

When a fault ruptures, energy is released in the form of seismic waves. The first waves to reach the earth’s surface are primary or 'P' waves (Figure 2). P waves are compressional waves that travel at a speed of about four miles per second near the surface – faster as depth increases. The next waves to reach the earth’s surface are secondary or 'S' waves. S waves are shear waves that move at a speed of about 1.5 miles per second. P and S waves are body waves that travel through the earth much like sonar waves travel through water. Surface waves, which are slower than S waves, travel along the surface of the earth much like waves at the surface of the ocean. S waves and surface waves cause the most destruction at the earth’s surface.The article concludes; "What is missing from the seismograph for the Washington DC area 5.8 magnitude earthquake are the primary or 'P' waves. All earthquakes that are the direct result of fault rupture have these primary or 'P' waves. Nuclear detonations do not."

also.....
http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=4009
also the fact that there were No aftershocks...UNTIL scientists began questioning WHY there were none....too convienient imo

[Joe King]

No aftershocks? There were four aftershocks within the first 12 hours after the event.

[StreetsOfGold]

No aftershocks? There were four aftershocks within the first 12 hours after the event.

You have got to be JOeKING

[Joe King]

No, actually not.....this time, anyways.

[Neuro]

No aftershocks? There were four aftershocks within the first 12 hours after the event.

Did you feel them?

[StreetsOfGold]

No, actually not.....this time, anyways.

I checked and it does say joeking posted this comment :)

[Joe King]

Did you feel them?
No. Didn't feel the actual shock, either.
A quake has to be of a certain magnitude in order to be felt. Many of the aftershocks were small. One a week or so ago was only 2.3 and one last Saturday was 2.6
In Colorado where the other one was there was a 3.6 aftershock last Friday.

Was a small quake in the New Madrid area that was a 2.5 and another in Idaho that was a 2.5......I hope Book was able to survive it.

[wrs]

There is an update on divinecosmos.org (David Wilcocks site) which says that this was some kind of air pressure explosion where the pressure was increased 20 times. That still goes along with the video posted further up the thread. I won't link it but if you are interested you can go read his update.

[Joe King]

There is an update on divinecosmos.org (David Wilcocks site) which says that this was some kind of air pressure explosion where the pressure was increased 20 times. That still goes along with the video posted further up the thread. I won't link it but if you are interested you can go read his update.So they had the air pressure up to 260+PSI in their tunnel? Where do people like this Wilcocks get ideas like this? ???

[Ares]

So they had the air pressure up to 260+PSI in their tunnel? Where do people like this Wilcocks get ideas like this? ???

Most of the time, I think Wilcock just makes shit up as he goes along. He was one of those loons talking about ascension back in 2000, when that didn't happen he jumped on the 2012 bandwagon. He's a con artist shill and people buy into his bullshit stroking his ego.

[Joe King]

IMHO, people like that are obvious dis-info agents because what they're doing is throwing a bunch of crap out there in an effort to lead people, who may not know any better, astray.

"...pressure was increased 20 times." ::)

I don't know what's worse. Is it the type of people who first proposes stuff like this, or those that hear it and then run with it?

[PatColo]

DEVELOPING:

just moments ago there was a very audible pressure release event of some sort heard throughout my county. Very eerie, utterly unforgettable. I must be quite near the source because police, fire trucks and 2 news vans have now arrived on scene- one is the local FOX affiliate and the other I'm not sure, but they're interviewing witnesses now, all are apparently trying to identify the source. Apparently the neighbor on the next block caught this audio, and immediately uploaded it, tweeted it, etc:

BREAKING (http://tinyurl.com/b2jwby)

Crazy, surreal scene...



http://gold-silver.us/forum/image.php?u=3395&dateline=1309064690 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/member.php?3395-PatColo) (http://gold-silver.us/forum/member.php?3395-PatColo)

[PatColo]

Holy crap!

I know, right?! :o

the authorities and reporters have been knocking on my door endlessly, quite a few turncoat neighbors have obviously fingered my house as the one who dealt it- I'm making like I'm not home. Left the bathroom ventilator fan on, hell every fan in the house has stayed on, wtf do they want?! I'm holed up here waiting them all out, hoping they just give up finally and disperse, like it didn't happen... no harm no foul... right gang? :-X

unfortunately it was one of those eggy smelling ones that take quite awhile to disperse... ::)

[Mouse]

It's for the best. If you came outside it would "follow you".......

[wrs]

Most of the time, I think Wilcock just makes shit up as he goes along. He was one of those loons talking about ascension back in 2000, when that didn't happen he jumped on the 2012 bandwagon. He's a con artist shill and people buy into his bullshit stroking his ego.

Right, this type reminds me of preachers who promise Jesus died for your mistakes and if you believe that there is pie in the sky when you die so don't worry about this life, just look forward to the hereafter. This whole Ascension thing sounds like the rapture for New Agers.

However, there are a lot of things changing in the world today. Everyone senses that things are on the edge of falling completely apart and yet no one wants to accept what that may mean. So they make up fantasies like TEOTWAWKI or heaven and hell or the rapture or any other fantasy that avoids accepting responsibility for not making the changes that are needed.

The real question that needs to be asked is, why the hell is anyone alive? Is it just to eat, shit and die? Is it just to be an automaton that is either a consumer or a taxpayer or worker or some other third person reference to an object that has no real value other than it's function? Because if that is all life is about, it's not worth it. So people make up fantasies to excuse this piece of shit existence that we call life.

[sirgonzo420]

So, wrs is a nihilist?

[Horn]

We'll know after the nukes start poppin elsewhere.

[Large Sarge]

I believe more in Karma, as long as we are delving into the philosophy/esoteric...

Karma is kind of a spiritual "cause and effect"

when you look at chi/orgone, and I know this will upset some here, you find we are all "borrowed energy" (wilhelm reich)

so in theory, reincarnation is possible.

http://www.himalayanacademy.com/resources/pamphlets/KarmaReincarnation.html

thats kind of how I look at it..

[DMac]

Re: nihilism...Any post I've ever made on this forum discussing metaphysics has never been answered, crickets as best as I can recall.

Regarding the OP, I've kept away from this thread because it stank of obvious bs to me. I didn't want to offend those buying into the story.

IMO, this is disinfo. A sample reason for why, could be that the natural gas fracking that has been rampant across the country and in particular east of the Mississippi, is going to cue a devastating New Madrid quake. The NMSZ quake (oddly enough) is not being discussed much since the recent Virginia quake. Disinfo could be why..

[Large Sarge]

I am not sure DMac?,

Could be disinfo, or?

got to figure if you plan on killing 90% of the worlds population, well you are going to make an awful lot of enemies...

[DMac]

I am not sure DMac?,

Could be disinfo, or?

got to figure if you plan on killing 90% of the worlds population, well you are going to make an awful lot of enemies...

When Fulford landed the interview with Rockefeller that time, I thought, holy crap - this guy might not be a fruitcake afterall! Since then, however, and the whole ninja thing....well. He went from conspiracy informer to conspiratainment for me. Like a Steve Quayle and some others we've discussed in the past.

I don't argue about the existence of DUMBs. I also don't rule out that things could be happening in them that we don't know about (bombs, experiments gone wrong, who knows?), but this info comes via Fulford and David Wilcox.

http://www.divinecosmos.com/about-david-wilcock


David's "graduate studies" with Higher Intelligence....

Wilcock's preliminary, direct contact with Higher Intelligence

It also seemed to clearly be implying that a major change - literally a dimensional shift - was coming to the Earth in the not-too-distant future. David was dazzled to discover that no one had ever written a book about the science of the Law of One (dmac -apparently he didn't study Plotinus... :/)

David broke through to direct verbal contact with his own Higher Self, (dmac - he claims to speak with a voice inside of himself??)
The source showed that it was outside of time and could accurately predict events before they happened with great precision...

Then, in November of 1997, after considerable speculation from self and others, David confronted his Source directly about the possibility of having been Edgar Cayce in a past life (dmac- good grief...)


(dmac- he was producing conspiritainment from a basement...)and this necessitated a relieving end to the basement labor by the beginning of April.

The source of this information is the self proclaimed incarnation of Edgar Cayce. Read though his bio that I linked above. I don't know how anyone can take him seriously.

[Large Sarge]

I think parts of this story appear to have some merit,

even alex jones gives you 90% of the truth

[Half Sense]

A world history that includes extraterrestrials makes more sense than one in which all the sightings are bogus. There is also the question of ghosts and the spiritual world. I am convinced (and have seen, heard, and recorded enough freaky stuff) that what we call paranormal is actually quite normal, and that the amount of belief in it is closely related to different levels of perception in each of us. I was the ultimate skeptic and was forced to change my opinion. As far as religion goes, I can see how entire schools of theology could be built upon any actual existence of either ETs or ghosts.

[Large Sarge]

tunnels sealed off in 13 deep underground bases


http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2011/09/23/tunnels-to-at-least-13-underground-bases-being-sealed-off/

[Large Sarge]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEDAE_9v4h0&feature=player_embedded

[Large Sarge]

just going to offer this, the article above states within 48 hours of 9/27/11 a false flag nuclear event will occur.

http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2011/09/23/tunnels-to-at-least-13-underground-bases-being-sealed-off/

well, most here know how they are into their numerology, and 11 represent Israel (eternity)

9/29/2011

92/92/11

11/11/11

[Large Sarge]

McCanney talks about the nuclear explosions, fast forward about 11 minutes into the interview

http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/JamesMcCanneyScienceHour_September_22_2011.mp3

[Large Sarge]

McCanney talks about the nuclear explosions, fast forward about 11 minutes into the interview

http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/JamesMcCanneyScienceHour_September_22_2011.mp3



very good interview from McCanney, recommended

he states this is a true wiildcard, they have had their infrastructure blown to smithereens...

he said although we can expect retaliations, this is GREAT NEWS!

[wrs]

Re: nihilism...Any post I've ever made on this forum discussing metaphysics has never been answered, crickets as best as I can recall.

Regarding the OP, I've kept away from this thread because it stank of obvious bs to me. I didn't want to offend those buying into the story.

IMO, this is disinfo. A sample reason for why, could be that the natural gas fracking that has been rampant across the country and in particular east of the Mississippi, is going to cue a devastating New Madrid quake. The NMSZ quake (oddly enough) is not being discussed much since the recent Virginia quake. Disinfo could be why..

And you know this how, from some other bs nonsense unscientific internet theory you have read? Every fracked a well, ever been near a well being fracked, got any idea how it's done? Know how large a horizontal well is and what fracking does?

Seriously doubt it so basically you are complaining that this bs isn't your bs. ROTFLMAO :)

[StreetsOfGold]

I believe more in Karma, Karma is kind of a spiritual "cause and effect"

so in theory, reincarnation is possible.

Karma is just a re-working of God's already establish principle. This has become a popular SUBSTITUTE to REPLACE God's word. BEWARE of using it and thus believing anything that could be a by-product of believing it.

The Bible verse that came BEFORE "Karma" became popular is:

Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

There is no such thing as re-incarnation!

[Large Sarge]

I appreciate everyones opinion on all topics, it helps me to learn and understand, but arguing religion can be pretty painful at best.

I formed my opinions on some science that I have observed (Chi/Orgone from wilhelm reich), I can only speculate about reinacarnation, but if all living things come from borrowed energy, then it certainly makes reinacarnation likely..

and lastly, I hope everyone will listen to that Jim McCanney interview, the bad guys were attacked, and we should all be celebrating that (whether christian, muslim, hindu, or whatever?)

the bad guys had their homebases blown to shit.

open the champagne, light up a big fat cigar (or other smoking material if you are inclined, "roll a fatty")

probably the best news I have heard in a decade,

and it is largely unknown.

[DMac]

And you know this how, from some other bs nonsense unscientific internet theory you have read? Every fracked a well, ever been near a well being fracked, got any idea how it's done? Know how large a horizontal well is and what fracking does?

Seriously doubt it so basically you are complaining that this bs isn't your bs. ROTFLMAO :)


Know this? No, I'm speculating. "Sample reason." Not definitive cause. You got a chip on your shoulder wrs?

The info in the OP came from a guy who says he communes with God, or an angel, or aliens, or who the hell knows. So yeah, that is not my kind of BS.

"Don't worry folks, the ninja attacked underground bases with nukes or some other magic weapons. No need to pick up the fight yourselves, us White Dragon Society members got this." - Fulford in a nutshell.

Keep rolling on the floor laughing. Maybe you'll be the next chosen incarnation of Edgar Cayce and can fill us all in on what the Pleidians have to say next.

(insert book style giant eye roll here)

[Cebu_4_2]

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1140/120/Tunnels_To_At_Least_13_Underground_Bases_Being_Sea led_Off.html



At least 13 very powerful underground explosions rocked the United
States Midwest in the last 48 hours. They registered as small shallow
earthquakes with the USGS. Many of the underground high explosive
detonations registered as 2.6 magnitude earthquakes.


The U.S. military is said to be sealing off the tunnels so that the
Globalists and the U.S. ghost government (Federal Reserve Bankers,
FEMA, DHS, CIA) can’t run and hide from what is predicted to occur
within 48 hours of September 27, 2011.


Officers in the U.S. military didn’t seem to be aware of Obama and the
Globalists’ planned converging on Denver for a DEFCON 1 (nuclear war
imminent) “cocked pistol” drill.


Officers in the U.S. military didn’t seem to be aware of Obama and the
Globalists’ planned converging on Denver for a DEFCON 1 (nuclear war
imminent) “cocked pistol” drill....

[Horn]

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/index.gif

[Joe King]

Where'd you get your map at?


http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1146&d=1316890592



1146

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/region/N_America.php

[Horn]

The internet

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/

[Joe King]

The internet

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/
That's where I got mine, too. I wonder why the difference in the number of quakes? Yours says 766 mine says 107 and they both cover the same area and time frame. Last hour, last day, last week starting with today. ???


ETA: Ok, I just noticed that the one I posted only shows M2.5 or greater.

[Horn]

I believe more in Karma, as long as we are delving into the philosophy/esoteric...

Karma is kind of a spiritual "cause and effect"

when you look at chi/orgone, and I know this will upset some here, you find we are all "borrowed energy" (wilhelm reich)

so in theory, reincarnation is possible.

http://www.himalayanacademy.com/resources/pamphlets/KarmaReincarnation.html

thats kind of how I look at it..

In theory, choosing how to be reincarnated should then be possible.

http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-DF271_watchm_D_20090226231558.jpg

[Serpo]

http://dancingczars.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/denver3a.jpg?w=400&h=284 (http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2011/09/23/tunnels-to-at-least-13-underground-bases-being-sealed-off/denver3a/)

Insanity

[Serpo]

http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2011/09/24/underground-tunnel-explosions-secret-bunkers-false-flags-spooks-denver-airport-nwo-and-the-u-s-government/

http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2011/09/23/tunnels-to-at-lea (http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2011/09/23/tunnels-to-at-least-13-underground-bases-being-sealed-off/)st-13-underground-bases-being-sealed-off/ (http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2011/09/23/tunnels-to-at-least-13-underground-bases-being-sealed-off/)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iRycT6d6ZR8/TnzpJSF_GHI/AAAAAAAABvY/7YZwT8KgKKk/s400/Denver+airport.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iRycT6d6ZR8/TnzpJSF_GHI/AAAAAAAABvY/7YZwT8KgKKk/s1600/Denver+airport.jpg)


http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1138/859/Very_Curious_Denver_-_Huge_Terror_Exercise_Started_Today_I_Have_Searche d_The_Schedules_Of_The_Elite_-_Seems_All_Elite_Are_Taking_Vacations_Starting_Tod ay.html
(http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2011/09/23/tunnels-to-at-least-13-underground-bases-being-sealed-off/)

[Celtic Rogue]

Karma is just a re-working of God's already establish principle. This has become a popular SUBSTITUTE to REPLACE God's word. BEWARE of using it and thus believing anything that could be a by-product of believing it.

The Bible verse that came BEFORE "Karma" became popular is:

Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

A concept of karma (along with samsara (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Samsara) and moksha (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Moksha)) may originate in the shramana (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Shramana) tradition of which Buddhism (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Buddhism) and Jainism (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Jainism) are continuations. This tradition influenced the Brahmanic (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Vedic_Brahmanism) religion in the early Vedantic (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Vedantic) (Upanishadic) movement of the 1st millennium BC.


I am sorry... but the concept of karma predated the christian religion by at least 1000 years! So it appears that the church of christ has stolen this concept from an evil pagan religion! Ack!!! How can this be? 8-) We are so lucky to have christianity come along with the TRUE and only word... just like every other religion has in their time for 10s of thousands of years before the jews wrote the bible to take the shaman controlling role in our society of spirituality. just my 2 cents

[vacuum]

http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2011/09/24/underground-tunnel-explosions-secret-bunkers-false-flags-spooks-denver-airport-nwo-and-the-u-s-government/

http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2011/09/23/tunnels-to-at-least-13-underground-bases-being-sealed-off/
The second one has a cool video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEDAE_9v4h0&feature=player_embedded

[keehah]

This seems like the right thread....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jt3daGeAe9s#t=191s
In case another wonders about the ending tagline:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herr_Meets_Hare

AOL Time Warner refused to allow the broadcast of Herr Meets Hare, on the grounds that the cartoon was offensive (by today's standards) as it dealt with the Nazis in a joking manner.

(And check out that earthquake map in Horn's post above. Its October 15 and Alaska is shaking all up the centre.)

[Serpo]

The update.........http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/981-undergroundbasesnewinfo

[Joe King]

Has anyone seen this video? How could a nuke going off create shaking that goes on for so long? Not to mention that in the video it shows what seems to be the shaking intensifying, letting up, and repeating. How could a nuke do that? The supposed nuke going off has been put forth here on the forum as having had the strongest part at the beginning.

If you want a mystery, watch the video and try to explain the behavior of the guy with the hat who stops to pick something up on his way down, and then later comes back up and appears to stay for the duration of the quake. Why would he do that and what did he pick up?

I'd think that a 500'+ tower made of what amounts to bricks would be the last place I'd want to be in an Earthquake.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgHC2qREslw

[Cebu_4_2]

Has anyone seen this video? How could a nuke going off create shaking that goes on for so long? Not to mention that in the video it shows what seems to be the shaking intensifying, letting up, and repeating. How could a nuke do that? The supposed nuke going off has been put forth here on the forum as having had the strongest part at the beginning.

If you want a mystery, watch the video and try to explain the behavior of the guy with the hat who stops to pick something up on his way down, and then later comes back up and appears to stay for the duration of the quake. Why would he do that and what did he pick up?

I'd think that a 500'+ tower made of what amounts to bricks would be the last place I'd want to be in an Earthquake.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgHC2qREslw

Think many miles of tunnels, Oh I forgot you were "joking".

[Cebu_4_2]

The update.........http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/981-undergroundbasesnewinfo

I only scanned so far, need to bookmark this and read more. The input of ET seems out of this world but hey, I know we are not alone so any intervention can't be worse unless it includes cleansing the whole planet. But then that would destroy the entire eco system making the planet uninhabitable for all but the ants.

Thanks Serpo for the link of update man.

[Joe King]

Think many miles of tunnels, Oh I forgot you were "joking".
Tunnels collapsing wouldn't cause an earthquake. A nuke going off is measurable on a seismograph but as pointed out numerous times in this thread, the biggest shock comes first. As shown by the build up of shaking in the video, we can graphicly see that was not the case.

A bomb going off and then tunnels collapsing would not be seen as one long continous event that builds and lets up and then builds and lets up. Sorry, but the nuke theory is just that, a theory.....and not even a good one at that.

[Cebu_4_2]

Tunnels collapsing wouldn't cause an earthquake. A nuke going off is measurable on a seismograph but as pointed out numerous times in this thread, the biggest shock comes first. As shown by the build up of shaking in the video, we can graphically see that was not the case.

A bomb going off and then tunnels collapsing would not be seen as one long continuous event that builds and lets up and then builds and lets up. Sorry, but the nuke theory is just that, a theory.....and not even a good one at that.

No, Seriously joking right? NO my goodness my kid made the connection the first time he read this. Have you never as a child e..... K, think reverb, you have a hole 500 miles long, I stick my head in the middle and yell JOKING, you hear it a while later and with that you will hear the same thing many times for a long time....

Fuck this I need beer time. Need to absorb more fluoride so I can blend with you a bit better.

[Cebu_4_2]

Tunnels collapsing wouldn't cause an earthquake. A nuke going off is measurable on a seismograph but as pointed out numerous times in this thread, the biggest shock comes first. As shown by the build up of shaking in the video, we can graphicly see that was not the case.

A bomb going off and then tunnels collapsing would not be seen as one long continous event that builds and lets up and then builds and lets up. Sorry, but the nuke theory is just that, a theory.....and not even a good one at that.


Ummm... where did you hear about "tunnels collapsing"?

[Joe King]

Ummm... where did you hear about "tunnels collapsing"?Why would you say, "Think many miles of tunnels," if you didn't mean something happened to them to lengthen the quake?
The only thing would assume that would be, is their collapse. Or is the theory now multiple nukes? ::)

Why can't it just have been an earthquake?

[Cebu_4_2]

Why would you say, "Think many miles of tunnels," if you didn't mean something happened to them to lengthen the quake?
The only thing would assume that would be, is their collapse. Or is the theory now multiple nukes? ::)

Why can't it just have been an earthquake?

Whew, I was worried for a second. I did not know that you knew the tunnels were 50 feet long. Now I have company in thought.

[Joe King]

What 50'?

Face it. The nuke theory is bs.

[vacuum]

The update.........http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/981-undergroundbasesnewinfo
Thanks

[Horn]

What 50'?

Face it. The nuke theory is bs.

There were 2 signatures with the same penmanship, wasn't there?

I'll admit, Wilcock seems to be pushing the 3rd and final "alien frenemy".

[Joe King]

There were 2 signatures with the same penmanship, wasn't there?

I'll admit, Wilcock seems to be pushing the 3rd and final "alien frenemy".What are talkin' about? The quake lasted far too long for it to be a nuke. I don't care about signatures. I posted a video that shows the duration and strength of the shaking. No nuke could have caused that.

BTW, what happened to your self-imposed ban for directly breaking the thunderdome rules by posting thunderdome content in another forum?


Either the rule applies equally to all, and it needs to be enforced, or it doesn't apply at all and should be deleted from the rules.

[Horn]

Either the rule applies equally to all, and it needs to be enforced, or it doesn't apply at all and should be deleted from the rules.

And I try offering a fig leaf to you, by quoting your dribble.

Derailing another thread, yet again.

What more should I suspect from a person finding a sewer pipe habitable?

[Joe King]

And I try offering a fig leaf to you, by quoting your dribble.The fact you responded at all is supposed to be a fig leaf? Huh. Strange lookin' fig leaf you got there.
...and what are talkin' about penmanship for? The quake lasted at varying intensities for over three minutes. Explaoin how a nuke going off would cause that. The seismograph readouts put forth here as proof of nuculear detonation all showed a strong shaking that dropped off quickly.

So which is it? It seems the theory is evolving as evidence comes forth to show that it is a false theory.



Derailing another thread, yet again.You derail it when you refuse to actually examine some of these outlandish claims, and then attack anyone who does examine them.
Horn - don't look too close at my wacky theory, because it might not hold up <--- that's your attitude when it comes to your wacked theories.


What more should I suspect from a person finding a sewer pipe habitable?I'd say you're the one wanting to live there.

[PatColo]

Mystery of the West Wing hole: What IS Obama building under the White House? (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2050508/Is-Obama-building-super-bunker-swimming-pool-White-House.html)


By Daniel Bates (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Daniel+Bates)

Last updated at 8:15 AM on 19th October 2011

[DMac]

Re: nihilism...Any post I've ever made on this forum discussing metaphysics has never been answered, crickets as best as I can recall.

Regarding the OP, I've kept away from this thread because it stank of obvious bs to me. I didn't want to offend those buying into the story.

IMO, this is disinfo. A sample reason for why, could be that the natural gas fracking that has been rampant across the country and in particular east of the Mississippi, is going to cue a devastating New Madrid quake. The NMSZ quake (oddly enough) is not being discussed much since the recent Virginia quake. Disinfo could be why..



And you know this how, from some other bs nonsense unscientific internet theory you have read? Every fracked a well, ever been near a well being fracked, got any idea how it's done? Know how large a horizontal well is and what fracking does?

Seriously doubt it so basically you are complaining that this bs isn't your bs. ROTFLMAO :)


Can Fracking Cause Quakes? (http://news.discovery.com/earth/fracking-earthquakes-gas-120106.html#mkcpgn=rssnws1)


Direct links between the gas extraction process and recent quakes point to the seismological side effect.


snip

Geologists have made direct links between recent earthquakes and fracking.

As the industry continues to expand, more earthquakes are expected.

Injection wells, which take away waste fluids from fracking operations, act as jacks which can split faults.

[Book]

Direct links between the gas extraction process and recent quakes point to the seismological side effect.



http://sproutic.us/files/2008/10/tremors_1990_685x385.jpg

We all know it ain't "fracking" down there causing all these tremors DMac.

:D