The art and science of spinning beers

[Katmandu]

Has anyone here ever spun a beer?

If you have a warm beer and need to chill it down quickly, just put it on a bed of ice and start spinning it on the ice. In just a few minutes, viola, you have an ice cold beer. And no, it does not spew when you open it up.

Cheers.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

I looked up some demonstrations of this, but I couldn't find a good one. I am assuming you spin the beer so that you get a uniform exposure to the cold.


Another good way to do it is ice mixed with salt. The salt will lower the freezing point of the water, so the water will still be the same temperature, just in liquid form. This is a good way to increase surface area

[Libertytree]

Spinning works ok but there's no time saved vs a can covered with ice, that produces an ice cold beer in approx 7.5 mins. The fire exstinguisher works almost instantly though.

[Bigjon]

Who likes ice cold beer???

People who hate the taste of beer thats who.

[Katmandu]

Spinning works ok but there's no time saved vs a can covered with ice, that produces an ice cold beer in approx 7.5 mins. The fire exstinguisher works almost instantly though.

Definitely time saved. We are talking 2-3 min for spinning.

[Katmandu]

Who likes ice cold beer???

People who hate the taste of beer thats who.

I love the taste of beer and I like my beer cold. Bunch of party poopers!:D

[Awoke]

I like beer any temperature. I usually drink them cold, but long days in the hot sun in a fishing boat conditions you for drinking warm beers too.

[k-os]

I have never needed a beer that fast, but I had an ex-boyfriend who did the spinning trick about (yikes) 20 years ago.

[solid]

The fire exstinguisher works almost instantly though.

The fire extinguisher method sounds bad-ass. That would be a c02 extinguisher? You could cool a 12 pack in no time and look like a maniac in the process. I like it! These ideas increase testosterone levels, I'm sure studies would approve of this manliness.

[Glass]

If I've forgotten to load the fridge with enough beers I admonish myself and wait the 25 minutes the freezer needs to get a warm one down to temp. I've been impatient enough in my life to learn when a beer is really cold and when just the glass is cold. Down here beers must be cold. Tepid doesn't cut it. My fridge is set to beer temp on the dial and if the food in the back freezes then thats just too bad...... beer first, food somewhere down the list.

It's the Grand Final for the Australian Football League today. The Aussie equivelant of the Superbowl. I have a suspicion that there will be a small of a spike in beer consumption across the country today. Maybe by about 100%. Perhaps we need a Grand Final survival guide showing people how to do this in case of emergency.

[Katmandu]

I looked up some demonstrations of this, but I couldn't find a good one. I am assuming you spin the beer so that you get a uniform exposure to the cold.


The key is that you are mixing the beer and constantly and rotating the warm beer near the center of the can out toward the cold ice. Try it. You will be amazed at how quickly the mass of ice melts around the beer as the warmth from the beer is transferred to the ice.

[Bigjon]

I love the taste of beer and I like my beer cold. Bunch of party poopers!:D

Miller light I'll bet!!!

Make mine a Summit Pale Ale at 58 degrees perfect cellar temp.
http://www.summitbrewing.com/brews/extra-pale-ale

[osoab]

Why not buy cold beer to begin with?

[Awoke]

Not always an option, Osoab.

Thanks for the tip, Kat.

[Katmandu]

Miller light I'll bet!!!

Yuk.

[vacuum]

Spin it with salt and a little bit of water added to the ice bed. That should be the best possible result.

[freespirit]

i brought a mini cooler (lunchbox type), full of dry ice on my last canoe trip, and it lasted 3 days in 78-80F temps. cans of beer were refrigerated the night before leaving, and spent the rest of the time exposed. when you wanted a cold beer, you simply dropped a can or two into the dry ice, wait a minute, rotate the can 180deg., wait another minute, remove and let stand for a minute. then enjoy! we also used the dry ice to chill the left over italian sausage from dinner, wrapped in aluminum foil, to keep them till breakfast in the morning.

the trick to dry ice and beer is to not leave it too long...it takes only about 4 minutes to form ice in the can, and the minute you open it, it freezes almost solid. not very tasty. timing is everything! ;D

[Gaillo]

Miller light I'll bet!!!

I thought we were talking about beer? ???

[Bigjon]

I thought we were talking about beer? ???

It has been my experience that people who like miller (any miller product) which uses corn as its main starch also like it ice cold as they don't have to taste the awful stuff. Anyone who drinks ice cold beer is missing out on a lot of the subtlety in the balance between the hops and malt and mouth feel of the beer.

[BrewTech]

I love the taste of beer and I like my beer cold. Bunch of party poopers!:D

Truly great beer cannot be fully appreciated at low temperatures. I'd be interessted to know what you consider to be "beer"... ;)

[Joe King]

The test of a good beer IMHO is if you can drink it warm and it still tastes good to you.

Whether that beer is drunk warm or cold is but a personal preferance.

[Santa]

I have never needed a beer that fast, but I had an ex-boyfriend who did the spinning trick about (yikes) 20 years ago.

Whoa! You had a beer drinkin boy friend when you were 10 years old?

[Santa]

I'd take a warm beer over a cold drunk any day.

[JJ.G0ldD0t]

Why do beersnobs have to be such.... snobs?


Seriously - what's it to you of some enjoy a watered down pilsner ice cold?









Elitist.. snobs.

[BrewTech]

Why do beersnobs have to be such.... snobs?


Seriously - what's it to you of some enjoy a watered down pilsner ice cold?













Elitist.. snobs.

What's it to me? Why, doesn't bother me at all. Sometimes a watered-down nothing beer is exactly what is called for. When it's 100F out, I certainly don't want a Russian Imperial Stout. And you can bet I'm going to want ice crystals floating in that Coors Light.

You know what gives me the right to be a snob? All the time, effort and money I put in to learning about beer and creating great examples of it. It takes about month to craft a batch of beer from start to finish, and it takes great care to understand and manage the process. Only after I started making beer did I realize what an amazing art it is.

BEER GEEKS FTW!

[Heimdhal]

I rarley drink beer, but when I do its blacker than a bankers heart and room temperature, and usualy from somewhere in or near Germany

;)

[JJ.G0ldD0t]

LOL

figured I'd get a rise outta you BT. :P

Not that YOU did but..
It's still elitist to poo poo something simple.

Now-

I'm gonna go burn some flesh and suck down a few frosty coors lights damnit.

[osoab]

LOL

figured I'd get a rise outta you BT. :P

Not that YOU did but..
It's still elitist to poo poo something simple.

Now-

I'm gonna go burn some flesh and suck down a few frosty coors lights damnit.


Coors Light? Dammit, get the banquet beer!

[Bigjon]

What's it to me? Why, doesn't bother me at all. Sometimes a watered-down nothing beer is exactly what is called for. When it's 100F out, I certainly don't want a Russian Imperial Stout. And you can bet I'm going to want ice crystals floating in that Coors Light.

You know what gives me the right to be a snob? All the time, effort and money I put in to learning about beer and creating great examples of it. It takes about month to craft a batch of beer from start to finish, and it takes great care to understand and manage the process. Only after I started making beer did I realize what an amazing art it is.

BEER GEEKS FTW!

I used to brew my own, but there are so many great craft beers available today I don't have to go through the bother of making my own. It is a long and expensive undertaking and one little bobble along the way and you have to throw it away. When I was brewing my own there were very few commercial beers worth buying.

[BrewTech]

I used to brew my own, but there are so many great craft beers available today I don't have to go through the bother of making my own. It is a long and expensive undertaking and one little bobble along the way and you have to throw it away. When I was brewing my own there were very few commercial beers worth buying.

No offense, but maybe you weren't cut out for brewing? Throw beer away because it isn't perfect?? LOL... it's still beer! Unless there is a serious infection, you never throw a beer away.

[Bigjon]

No offense, but maybe you weren't cut out for brewing? Throw beer away because it isn't perfect?? LOL... it's still beer! Unless there is a serious infection, you never throw a beer away.

Well sonny I guess I've made more batches of brew than you and I know when a batch smells like rotten olives I'm not going to drink it.

It only happened one time I made two batches from the same mash tun each with a different yeast culture, because I wanted to see if there was a big difference. One batch was perfect and the other was crap, all my methods were identical except for the yeast.

It really pissed me off, because it is a lot of work down the drain and it's much easier to let someone else do all the work and go down to the store and pick up a 6 pack.

I brewed beer with a friend for about 4 to 5 years in the 80's. We made about 5 -6 batches a year. Good beer is expensive, we started out buying syrup and graduated to mashing barley malt.

[Katmandu]

Truly great beer cannot be fully appreciated at low temperatures. I'd be interessted to know what you consider to be "beer"... ;)

Brewtech, I was reading through some old threads and realized I somehow missed your post here. In answer, here are some recent ones that I have enjoyed:

Val Dieu - Grand Cru
Chimay - The Grande Reserve Blue
Rogue - Double Chocolate Stout
Mikkeller - Big Worse Barley Wine
Old Rasmussen - Russian Imperial Stout
Mc Chouffe - Belgium brown ale
Ballast Point - IPA

My favorite beer is generally one that I have never tried before.

[kiffertom]

try some good cabernet. no need to chill!!

[BrewTech]

Brewtech, I was reading through some old threads and realized I somehow missed your post here. In answer, here are some recent ones that I have enjoyed:

Val Dieu - Grand Cru
Chimay - The Grande Reserve Blue
Rogue - Double Chocolate Stout
Mikkeller - Big Worse Barley Wine
Old Rasmussen - Russian Imperial Stout
Mc Chouffe - Belgium brown ale
Ballast Point - IPA

My favorite beer is generally one that I have never tried before.

All excellent choices. IMO some of those would be undrinkable below 55F...

[JohnQPublic]

The best analogy to spinning beer is the wind chill factor. Once a fluid is put into motion, heat transfer rates increase (thus you can cool a beer faster).

When you put a beer in ice, you mainly cool by conduction. When you blast water onto a hot engine block (not recommended), you cool by convection. Spinning a beer is convection. Of course convection is a complex process which includes conduction, but the key is that you are moving the already cooled beer away from the glass, and replacing it with warm beer to cool it faster, plus you are moving the already warmed water away from the outside of the beer bottle, and replacing it with fresh cold water.

[Katmandu]

The best analogy to spinning beer is the wind chill factor. Once a fluid is put into motion, heat transfer rates increase (thus you can cool a beer faster).

When you put a beer in ice, you mainly cool by conduction. When you blast water onto a hot engine block (not recommended), you cool by convection. Spinning a beer is convection. Of course convection is a complex process which includes conduction, but the key is that you are moving the already cooled beer away from the glass, and replacing it with warm beer to cool it faster, plus you are moving the already warmed water away from the outside of the beer bottle, and replacing it with fresh cold water.

Geeks rule. ;)

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[BrewTech]

The best analogy to spinning beer is the wind chill factor. Once a fluid is put into motion, heat transfer rates increase (thus you can cool a beer faster).

When you put a beer in ice, you mainly cool by conduction. When you blast water onto a hot engine block (not recommended), you cool by convection. Spinning a beer is convection. Of course convection is a complex process which includes conduction, but the key is that you are moving the already cooled beer away from the glass, and replacing it with warm beer to cool it faster, plus you are moving the already warmed water away from the outside of the beer bottle, and replacing it with fresh cold water.

Excellent explanation!

My testing samples at work are chilled to 60F, as the hydrometer is calibrated to this temperature. I place the sample in a stainless steel mixing cup, then immerse it in ice water. Stirring the sample quickly will generally drop the temperature 15 degrees in about 45 seconds.

[k-os]

Excellent explanation!

My testing samples at work are chilled to 60F, as the hydrometer is calibrated to this temperature. I place the sample in a stainless steel mixing cup, then immerse it in ice water. Stirring the sample quickly will generally drop the temperature 15 degrees in about 45 seconds.

Dude, you are a beer scientist!

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

There are some beers that I actually enjoy warm. I didn't at first, but now I do. They're much creamier than way.

[EE_]

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[Golden]

Haha all that knowledge to kill brain cells.
Belgians taste better at room temp.
I'm currently enjoying a Green Flash Le Freak CHEERS!

[BrewTech]

Haha all that knowledge to kill brain cells. Cheers!
Green Flash Le Freak

If your brain cells are dying, then you're doing something wrong.

[Golden]

If your brain cells are dying, then you're doing something wrong.

Your right, it's called drinking!

[BrewTech]

Your right, it's called drinking!

You must be drinking wrong then.

By what mechanism are these brain cells dying?

I can see a lot of damage being done by the over-consumption of ethanol-containing beverages, but it seems that you are asserting that moderate consumption causes brain damage.

[Neuro]

At my bug out land, where I don't have electricity, I chilled beer bottles by putting them in wet socks and hanging them in a steel wire from a tree in the shadow, in a couple of hours I had beers that were 10-15 C (around 20-25F) colder than ambient temperature. They tasted good! I guess using aluminum cans would have gotten even colder beer quicker. The only thing you need to do is make sure the sock is wet all the time, more wind and less humidity the colder you can get it...

[Golden]

You must be drinking wrong then.

By what mechanism are these brain cells dying?

I can see a lot of damage being done by the over-consumption of ethanol-containing beverages, but it seems that you are asserting that moderate consumption causes brain damage.

Dude rly? Can I buy you a drink?

[BrewTech]

Dude rly? Can I buy you a drink?

Not following you. It was a valid request for clarification.

Beer is a health food.

[EE_]

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[EE_]

Does drinking beer kill brain cells? Will I eventually become permanently stupid?

Nope. Contrary to popular belief, alcohol does not kill brain cells like Listerine kills germs. Sixteen years of study by Roberta J. Pentney, Ph.D., professor of anatomy and cell biology at the University at Buffalo, have concluded that alcohol does not kill brain cells, but rather damages the way brain cells communicate, reducing message traffic between neurons by beating the hell out of the message-carrying branched ends of nerve cells called dendrites.

Basically, calcium turns things on in the brain. And the intake of alcohol dilates the channels in the cellular structures that are responsible for the flow of calcium, causing an increase flow of calcium and an abnormal increase in activity, which damages dendrites. The fewer dendrites in operation, the fewer incoming messages, and the less the brain functions normally, which can make you sound slurry, become a slow, clumsy idiot and release your inhibitions.

There is good news: For the most part, the damage is reversible, as the brain repairs itself. However, the process does change the neuronal structure of the affected parts of the brain. So most of the message transmission in the brain will return to normal, but different branching arrangements will occur, thus changing the way parts of the brain work.

So if you are stupid now, chances are you were stupid before you began drinking beer!

[EE_]

Fill with mingled cream and amber,
I will drain that glass again.
Such hilarious visions clamber
Through the chamber of my brain.
Quaintest thoughts, queerest fancies
Come to life and fade away.
What care I how time advances:
I am drinking ale today.
- Edgar Allen Poe



“You can only drink 30 or 40 glasses of beer a day, no matter how rich you are.” - Adolphus Busch

“Drink triple, see double, and act single” – Anonymous

Similar to ONE BEER, TWO BEER, THREE BEER, FLOOR

“Getting stoned just makes you want to eat and get fat. At least drinking too much makes you vomit which makes you thin”. Earl J. Hickey

“And smoking weed kills your brain cells, not like getting drunk which only hurts the liver, and you got two of them”. Earl J. Hickey

“Prohibition makes you want to cry into your beer and denies you the beer to cry into.” - Don Marquis

"In my opinion, most of the great men of the past were only there for the beer—the wealth, prestige and grandeur that went with the power." - A.J.P. Taylor, British historian, 1984

“Whiskey and Beer are a man’s worst enemies…but the man that runs away from his enemies is a coward!” - Zeca Palomino (Brazilian song writer)

“Buy a man a beer, and he wastes an hour. Teach a man to brew, and he wastes a lifetime.” - Charles Papazian

"Beer he drank - seven goblets. His spirit was loosened. He became hilarious. His heart was glad and his face shown." - from the Epic of Gilgamesh, 3000 B.C.

“If you resolve to give up smoking and drinking, you don’t actually live longer; it just seems longer.” - Clement Freud.

“There’s nothing like good food, good beer, and a bad girl.” - Harvey Allen

“And God said, ‘Let there be beer!’ And He saw that is was good. Then God said, ‘Let there be light!’ And then He said, ‘Whoa-too much light’.” - Frank Varano

“Beer may not solve your problems, but neither will water or milk” - Wiley

“The church is near, but the road is icy. The bar is far, but we will walk carefully” - Russian Proverb.

“On some days, my head is filled with such wild and original thoughts that I can barely utter a word. On other days, the brewery is close.” - Frank Varano

“Milk is for babies. When you grow up you have to drink beer.” - Arnold Schwarzenegger

“Don’t bother trying to join the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. It turns out they are apparently against all three.” - Wiley

“Women and drink. Too much of either can drive you to the other” - Michael Still

"A fine beer may be judged with only one sip, but it's better to be thoroughly sure."

“Fermentation may have been a greater discovery than fire” - David Wallace



“Who does not love beer, wine, women, and song remains a fool his whole life.” - Carl Worner

“Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women?”

"A little bit of beer is divine medicine." –Paracelsus, Greek physician

“Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy” - Benjamin Franklin

“An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with fools.” - Ernest Hemingway

"It was a natural as eating and to me as necessary, and I would not have thought of eating a meal without drinking beer"- Ernest Hemingway

"The worst thing about some men is that when they are not drunk they are sober." - Yeats

“You can’t drink all day if you don’t start in the morning.” On label of Founder's Breakfast Stout

“The human intellect owes its superiority over that of the lower animals in great measure to the stimulus which alcohol has given imagination.”-Samuel Butler

“When I drink, I think; and when I think, I drink.” –Francois Rabelais

"Fermentation may have been a greater discovery than fire" -David Rains Wallace

" Beer is a wholesome liquor…..it abounds with nourishment" –Dr. Benjamin Rush “There is no strong beer, just weak men” - Dan Castellaneta.

"I fear the man who drinks water and so remembers this morning what the rest of us said last night" –Benjamin Franklin

"I went on a diet, swore off drinking and heavy eating, and in fourteen days I lost two weeks." –Joe E. Lewis

“History flows forward on rivers of beer.” Anonymous

"I have taken more out of alcohol than alcohol has taken out of me." - Winston Churchill

“When I heated my home with oil, I used an average of 800 gallons a year. I have found that I can keep comfortably warm for an entire winter with slightly over half that quantity of beer.” – Dave Berry

“Wow, it’s like I’ve died and went to heaven. But then they realized it wasn’t my time yet. So they sent me to a brewery. – Peter of Family Guy

"Here’s to alcohol, the cause of-and solution to-all life’s problems". – Homer Simpson

"I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be epended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts, and beer." — Abraham Lincoln

"Beer is a wholesome liquor…..it abounds with nourishment" –Dr. Benjamin Rush

"I fear the man who drinks water and so remembers this morning what the rest of us said last night" –Benjamin Franklin

"You can never buy beer; you just rent it" -Archie Bunker

“Smithers, this beer isn’t working. I don’t feel any younger or funkier.” - Mr. Burns of Simpsons

“Beer will change the world. I don’t know how, but it will” - sign on streets of New York

"The sum of the matter is, the people drink because the wish to drink." -Rudolph Brand

"Bart, a woman is like a beer. They look good, they smell good, and you’d step over your own mother just to get one."- Homer Simpson

"On victory, you deserve beer, in defeat, you need it."-Napoleon

"The easiest way to spot a wanker in a pub is to look around and find who’s drinking a Corona with a slice of lemon in the neck." – Warwick Frank

"Sir, if you were my husband, I would poison your drink."-Lady Astor to Winston Churchill "Madam, if you were my wife, I would drink it" -Churchill’s reply

"People who drink light beer don’t like the taste of beer; they just like to pee a lot" Capital Brewery, Middleton, WI

"It’s better to drink beer and talk stupid, than to drink water and be full of shit."… ….Steve Taylor

"Life’s too short to drink cheap beer" -Anonymous

“I’m going to buy a boat… do a little traveling, and I’m going to be drinking lots of beer!” - John Welsh, a bus driver who won $30 million in New York Lottery.

"Once, during Prohibition, I was forced to live for days on nothing but food and water." - W. C. Fields

"Give me a woman who truly loves beer and I will conquer the world" - Kaiser Wilhelm

"When I heated my home with oil, I used an average of 800 gallons a year. I have found that I can keep comfortably warm for an entire winter with slightly over half that quantity of beer." -Dave Barry

"I think this would be a good time for a beer." (upon signing the New Deal, paving the way for the repeal of Prohibition) - Franklin D. Roosevelt

"Oh, you hate your job? Why didn't you say so? There's a support group for that. It's called EVERYBODY, and they meet at the bar." - Unknown

"Give my people plenty of beer, good beer and cheap beer, and you will have no revolution among them" - Queen Victoria

“When I drink, I think; and when I think, I drink.” –Francois Rabelais

The hard part about being a bartender is figuring out who is drunk and who is just stupid." Richard Braunstein

"Whenever someone asks me if I want water with my Scotch, I say, "I'm thirsty, not dirty". Joe Lewis

"I told the stewardess liquor for three." - "Who are the other two? - "Oh, there are no other two." Sean Connery (as James Bond)

"Fermentation may have been a greater discovery than fire" -David Rains Wallace

"I have a total irreverence for anything connected with society except that which makes the roads safer, the beer stronger, the food cheaper and the old men and old women warmer in the winter and happier in the summer." -- Brendan Behan

“I drink to make other people interesting.” – George Jean Nathan

“Work is the curse of the drinking class” – Oscar Wilde

The problem with some people is that when they are not drunk, they’re sober.”-William Butler Yeats.

"Do not allow children to mix drinks. It is unseemly and they use too much vermouth." Steve Allen

“Always do sober what you said you’d do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut.” – Ernest Hemingway

“One martini is all right. Two are too many, and three are not enough.” – James Thurber

“What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch?” W.C. Fields

“Let no man thirst for good beer.” – Sam Adams

In wine there is wisdom, in beer there is freedom, in water there is bacteria. -Benjamin Franklin

“There can’t be good living where there is not good drinking.”-Benjamin Franklin

“The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.”- George Bernard Shaw

"We could not now take time for further searche or consideration: our victuals being much spente, especially our beere." - Logbook entry on the Mayflower, December 16, 1620

"Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of good beer."

"Sir, you’re drunk!" Yes, Madam, I am. But in the morning, I will be sober and you will still be ugly." –Lady Astor and Winston Churchill

"The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind." -Humphrey Bogart

“The answers to life’s problems aren’t at the bottom of a bottle. They’re on TV.” Homer Simpson---

"Beer , if drank with moderation, softens the tempter, cheers the spirit, and promotes good health.” – Thomas Jefferson

“Not all chemicals are bad. Without chemicals such as hydrogen and oxygen, for example, there would be no way to make water, a vital ingredient in beer.” –Dave Barry

“Many battles have been fought and won by soldiers nourished on beer.”-Frederick the Great

“Beer…. a high and mighty liquor.”- Julius Caesar

“If a life of wine, women and song becomes too much, give up singing.”-Mark Schiess

“Sometimes when I reflect back on all the beer I drink I feel ashamed. Then I look into the glass and think about the workers in the brewery and all of their hopes and dreams. If I didn’t drink this beer, they might be out of work and their dreams would be shattered. Then I say to myself, “It is better that I drink this beer and let their dreams come true, than be selfish and worry about my liver.” - by Jack Handy

“I feel sorry for people who don’t drink. When they wake up in the morning, that’s as good as they’re going to feel all day.” - Frank Sinatra

"It only takes one drink to get me loaded. Trouble is, I can't remember whether it's the thirteenth or fourteenth." - George Burns

"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of football team, or some nuclear weapons, but a the very least you need a beer."- Frank Zappa

"Let's get out of these wet clothes and into a dry Martini..." - Mae West

“Twenty-four hours in a day, twenty-four beers in a case. Coincidence?” - Stephen Wright

"A psychologist once said that we know little about the conscience - except that it is soluble in alcohol." - Thomas Blackburn

"Beer will get you through time of no money better than money will get you through times of no beer." - Freddie Freak

"After drinking four Martinis, my husband turns into a disgusting beast. And after the fifth, I pass out altogether." - Anonymous

"One more drink and I'd have been under the host." - Dorothy Parker

"Beer has food value, but food has no beer value.'

"The problem with the designated driver program, it's not a desirable job. But if you ever get sucked into doing it, have fun with it. At the end of the night, drop them off at the wrong house." - Jeff Foxworthy

"I'm not so think as you drunk I am !" - John Squire

"Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder."

"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy." - Tom Waits

"If love makes the world go around, then whisky makes it go around twice as fast!" - Compton Mackenzie

"You're not drunk unless you can lie on the floor without holding on !" - Dean Martin

“A woman drove me to drink and I didn’t even have the decency to thank her.” - W.C. Fields

“Beer makes you feel as you ought to feel without beer.” Henry Lawson, Poet and writer.

"We should look for someone to eat and drink with before looking for something to eat and drink" -Epicurus

"Beer is a wholesome liquor…it abounds with nourishment" –Dr. Benjamin Rush

" Give my people plenty of beer, good beer and cheap beer, and you will have no revolution" –Queen Victoria

"I drink when I have occasion, and sometimes when I have no occasion" -Miguel De Cervantes

" There is more to life than beer alone, but beer makes those other things even better." -Stephen Morris

"The mouth of a perfectly happy man is filled with beer" –Ancient Egyptian Wisdom

" Let us drink for the replenishment of our strength, not for our sorrow" -Cicero

" No, sir: There is nothing which has yet been contrived by man by which so much happiness is produced as by a good tavern or inn." –Samuel Johnson

" Beer, if drunk with moderation, softens the temper, cheers the spirit and promotes health" –Thomas Jefferson

" Beer does not make itself properly by itself. It takes an element of mystery and of things that no one can understand." –Fritz Maytag

“When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading !!!” - Henny Youngman

"I'm sorry honey, I can't hear you without a beer in my hand" - Over 1 million husbands.

“When we drink, we get drunk. When we get drunk, we fall asleep. When we fall asleep, we commit no sin. When we commit no sin, we go to heaven. Sooooo, let’s all get drunk and go to heaven!” - Brian O’Rourke

“It’s not about drinking 6 or 7 or 8 beers- it’s about enjoying the one you have in your hand.”Jeff Murdock, bon vivant and local philosopher - interviewed at the BRBP summer 2005

Just to be clear - What I said was. Beer is God, Music is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy and Springsteen is a profit. – Mark Schiess -3/20/08 Indianapolis, Prior to the concert.

[EE_]

Sorry, it's endless...

BEER TROUBLESHOOTING

SYMPTOM: Feet cold and wet.
FAULT: Glass being held at incorrect angle.
ACTION: Rotate glass so that open end points toward ceiling.

SYMPTOM: Feet warm and wet.
FAULT: Improper bladder control.
ACTION: Stand next to nearest dog, complain about house training.

SYMPTOM: Beer unusually pale and tasteless.
FAULT: Glass empty.
ACTION: Get someone to buy you another beer.

SYMPTOM: Opposite wall covered with fluorescent lights.
FAULT: You have fallen over backward.
ACTION: Have yourself leashed to bar.

SYMPTOM: Mouth contains cigarette butts.
FAULT: You have fallen forward.
ACTION: See above.

SYMPTOM: Beer tasteless, front of your shirt is wet.
FAULT: Mouth not open, or glass applied to wrong part of face.
ACTION: Retire to restroom, practice in mirror.

SYMPTOM: Floor blurred.
FAULT: You are looking through bottom of empty glass.
ACTION: Get someone to buy you another beer.

SYMPTOM: Floor moving.
FAULT: You are being carried out.
ACTION: Find out if you are being taken to another bar.

SYMPTOM: Everyone looks up to you and smiles.
FAULT: You are dancing on the table.
ACTION: Fall on somebody cushy-looking.

SYMPTOM: Beer is crystal-clear.
FAULT: It's water. Somebody is trying to sober you up.
ACTION: Punch him.

SYMPTOM: Hands hurt, nose hurts, mind unusually clear.
FAULT: You have been in a fight.
ACTION: Apologize to everyone you see, just in case it was them.

SYMPTOM: Don't recognize anyone, don't recognize the room you're in.
FAULT: You've wandered into the wrong party.
ACTION: See if they have free beer.

SYMPTOM: Your singing sounds distorted.
FAULT: The beer is too weak.
ACTION: Have more beer until your voice improves.

SYMPTOM: Don't remember the words to the song.
FAULT: Beer is just right.
ACTION: Play air guitar.

SYMPTOM: Room seems unusually dark.
FAULT: Bar has closed.
ACTION: Confirm home address with bartender.

SYMPTOM: Taxi suddenly takes on colorful aspect and textures.
FAULT: Beer consumption has exceeded personal limitations.
ACTION: Cover mouth.

[EE_]

Think that you're REALLY a beer expert? Take the challenge and find out!

1. A pilsner is _____
(a) the world's most popular beer style; (b) a resident of the Czech town of Pilsen; (c) a tall beer glass with a short stem and a funnel-shaped bowl; (d) all of the above.

2. The primary ingredients needed to brew are water, grain, hops and ____
(a) sugar; (b) flour; (c) yeast; (d) sauerkraut juice.

3. By strict definition a microbrewery can produce no more than barrels of beer each year ____
(a) 500; (b) 1,000; (c) 15,000; (d) 50,000.

4. Imported beer is big business, but domestically produced beer still accounts for more than of American beer consumption ____
(a) 38%; (b) 51%; (c) 68%; (d) 94%.

5) One of the reasons the Pilgrims chose to land at Plymouth, Massachusetts, rather than going on to Virginia as planned was that they were low on ____
(a) corn; (b) wine; (c) beer; (d) kitty litter.

6) Storing beer to mellow or ripen is known as ____
(a) lagering; (b) hopping; (c) marrying; (d) malting.

7) Malt is an important ingredient in making beer and distilled spirits. Unless otherwise specified malt is made from dried, sprouted ____
(a) alfalfa; (b) corn; (c) barley; d) rice.

8) After being introduced in the early '70s. light beers quickly found acceptance among American consumers. Today, three out of the top five beer brands are lights and light beer accounts for more than of all the beer ____
(a) 10%; (b) 22%; (c) 36%; (d) 54%.

9) Anheuser-Busch, Miller and Coors are the dominant forces in the American beer market. The big three have a combined market share of more than ____
(a) 42%; (b) 64%; (c) 76%; (d) 88%.

10) The oldest document known to man is an ancient clay table depicting the preparation of beer for sacrificial purposes. This document was inscribed in Babylon around ____
(a) 1776; (b) 1066; (c) A.D.; (d) 6000 B.C.

11) It's pretty well-known that Revolutionary patriot Samuel Adams was also a brewer. Another founding father who was also a brewer was ____
(a) George Washington; (b) Alexander Hamilton; (c) Benedict Arnold; (d) John Adams.

12) Prior to the development of refrigerated rail cars. all beer was local. The first brewery to translate this technology into a market advantage and develop a national brand was ____
(a) Anheuser-Busch; (b) Miller Brewing; (c) Coors Brewing; (d) Stroh.

13) Beer was a favorite of Egyptian royalty, and was served in ____
(a) pilsner glasses; (b) golden goblets; (c) papyrus cups; (d) wooden mugs.

14) Hops began to be used in brewing beer in the ____
(a) 8th century; (b) 11th century; (c) 13th century; (19th century.

15) The first commercial brewery in the New World was located in ____
(a) New Jersey; (b) New York; (c) New Hampshire; (d) New Orleans.

16) In what year did the German beer law, the Reinheitsgebot, take effect? ____
(a) 1066; (b) 1516; (c) 1812; (d) 1952.

17) The skills necessary for brewing lager beers were brought to America by immigrants from ____
(a) Germany; (b) England; (c) China; (d) Austria.

18) The ingredient often referred to as the "soul of the beer" is ____
(a) water; (b) malt; (c) hops; (d) corn.

19) For their understanding of how yeast works in beer, brewers are indebted to ____
(a) Isaac Newton; (b) Martin Luther; (c) Louis Pasteur; (d) Madam Curie.

20) Lager comes from the German word meaning ____
(a) made in wood; (b) bigger than; (c) to store; (d) cabin.

21) Trappist ale was created by ____
(a) Baron von Trapp; (b) monks; (c) feminists; (d) trappers.

22) Dark beer gets its color from ____
(a) food coloring; (b) malted barley; (c) coffee; (d) chocolate.

23) Beer's two greatest enemies are ____
(a) spirits and wine; (b) light and temperature; (c) Jesse Helms and Joe Kennedy; (d) soda and coffee.

24) Miller introduced its revolutionary Lite beer in ____
(a) 1935; (b) 1957; (c) 1966; (d) 1973.

answers next post

[EE_]

Answers: 1 (d); 2 (c); 3 (c); 4 (d); 5 (c); 6 (a); 7 (c); 8 (c); 9 (c); 10 (d); 11 (a); 13 (b); 14 (b); 15 (b); 16 (b); 17 (a); 18 (a); 19 (c); 20 (c); 21 (b); 22 (b); 23 (b); 24 (d)

[BrewTech]

Bob, you've officially made my day!


“Fermentation may have been a greater discovery than fire” - David Wallace

Ain't that the truth!

[EE_]

Beer Trivia
Beer trivia is fun because it’s about beer!
Read on to learn more about our favorite beverage.

Q. What is the most expensive single bottle of beer ever sold?

A. Tutankhamen was sold for $7686. The recipe and brewing method were recovered in Queen Nefertiti’s Temple of the Sun in Egypt by a group of University of Cambridge archaeologists. Only 1000 bottles were produced.


Q. What is the strongest commercially available beer in the world?

A. Samuel Adams’ Utopias, named after of one of the founding fathers of the United States, has an alcohol content of 25%. It also happens to be one of the most expensive beers in the world at about $67 per pint.


Q. Which country has the most individual beer brands?

A. Belgium with 400 brands.


Q. How did the term “rule of thumb” originate from brewing?

A. Before the advent of thermometers, brewers tested the temperature of their maturing brews with their thumbs: too cold and the yeast wouldn’t grow; too hot and it would die.


Q. Who was the first American to brew lager-type beer?

A. The first US lager was brewed in 1840 by John Wagner, who had a small brewery in the back of his house on St. John Street in Philadelphia. Wagner brought the first lager yeast to the United States from a brewery in Bavaria.


Q. What is the Latin word for brewmaster?

A. Braxator.


Q. What is the origin of the Scandinavian toast sköl?

A. The familiar Scandinavian toast sköl is derived from scole, the drinking bowl shaped like the upper half of a human skull. These bowls were originally fashioned from the actual skulls of enemies killed in battle.


Q. Which king is known as the “patron saint of beer”?

A. King Gambrinus (not to be confused with St. Arnold, the patron saint of brewing).


Q. How long did Prohibition in the United States last?

A. It lasted 13 years, 10 months, 19 days, 17 hours, 32 1/2 minutes.


Q. What is the best selling brand in the Western Hemisphere outside of the United States and which country is it brewed in?

A. Brahma Beer, which is brewed in Sao Paulo, Brazil.


Q. What is cenosillicaphobia?

A. The fear of an empty glass.

[EE_]

Bob, you've officially made my day!



Ain't that the truth!

You're welcome Mr. Braxator!

Beer is a subject that can be talked about forever and has!

[BrewTech]

I've decided to take several of these quotes/musings, print them up nicely, frame them and hang them in front of the men's urinal in the restroom at work.

I'm not asking anyone's permission, because I'm the damn brewer, and I can do what I want!

[General of Darkness]

Well if you want to chill the shit out of a 12 or 24 pack in seconds. This is by far the fastest.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvKafiEzuqI

[BrewTech]

Well if you want to chill the shit out of a 12 or 24 pack in seconds. This is by far the fastest.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvKafiEzuqI

I guess if I was drinking Sol I would want it ice cold. It's garbage!

[/beersnobbery]

[General of Darkness]

I guess if I was drinking Sol I would want it ice cold. It's garbage!

[/beersnobbery]

If you had to chose a Mexican beer what would it be?

[BrewTech]

If you had to chose a Mexican beer what would it be?

Well, considering all Mexican beers are simply German lagers produced in the Mexican fashion, it's hard to say. To tell the truth, I haven't really drank too many Mexican lagers since developing a palate for craft beers. I used to drink Corona (of course), but I've heard from some Mexican craft beer folks that Victoria is a nice example of the style. I have yet to try it.

I got a bad batch of XX once that tasted like petroleum waste so I likely won't be drinking that again.

[JohnQPublic]

Dude, you are a beer scientist!

He's a beergineer.

[General of Darkness]

Well, considering all Mexican beers are simply German lagers produced in the Mexican fashion, it's hard to say. To tell the truth, I haven't really drank too many Mexican lagers since developing a palate for craft beers. I used to drink Corona (of course), but I've heard from some Mexican craft beer folks that Victoria is a nice example of the style. I have yet to try it.

I got a bad batch of XX once that tasted like petroleum waste so I likely won't be drinking that again.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHwORSHSlVA

[BrewTech]

lulz!!!

[Golden]

Not following you. It was a valid request for clarification.

Beer is a health food.

Alcohol is a poison. I was making light of alcoholism. We all know how you get paid so why so serious? <--rhetorical

[BrewTech]

Alcohol is a poison. I was making light of alcoholism. We all know how you get paid so why so serious? <--rhetorical

Vitamin A is a poison in excessive doses, but you wouldn't want to short yourself. I wouldn't recommend eating a carnivore's liver.

Humans have been drinking beer for 6000 years. Care to provide a limit for us?

[JohnQPublic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHwORSHSlVA

Putin and Obama toast you;

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/20/article-0-116096B0000005DC-353_634x566.jpg

http://cdn.theatlanticwire.com/img/upload/2012/08/21/AP080420022594/large.jpg

[Note: No selective choice of images was made.]

[Golden]

Vitamin A is a poison in excessive doses, but you wouldn't want to short yourself. I wouldn't recommend eating a carnivore's liver.

Humans have been drinking beer for 6000 years. Care to provide a limit for us?

Hey Brew, bottoms up. Since when did you care? Why don't you provide a limit for us? Oh wait nevermind. Humans have cultivated cannabis for tens of thousands of years, so what?

[Neuro]

Hey Brew, bottoms up. Since when did you care? Why don't you provide a limit for us? Oh wait nevermind. Humans have cultivated cannabis for tens of thousands of years, so what?
I did read a research a year or so ago. Where they compared teatotalers, with moderate drinkers, and heavy drinkers, in regards to mortality rate. Moderate drinkers fared best. To the horrors of the investigators heavy drinkers fared better than teatotalers (with a lesser difference though). They figured that it must be because a larger proportion of teatotalers, had pre-existing health problems (not an unreasonable suggestion, since a reason not to drink could be that one are otherwise of poor health), but after confounding for this variable there was still a difference. Then it was suggested that many teatotalers had previously been heavy alcoholics, and due to damages during their alcoholism they would bring the group average down, so all previous alcoholics were excluded from the study. After these two adjustments the advantage were still to heavy drinkers... I think health wise, you would be best off if you drink around 2-3 glasses of wine or beer a day, depending on your size and gender, but you would still be better off if you drink 5-8 glasses of wine or beer, compared to drinking no alcohol, in terms of mortality rate...

[gunDriller]

i wonder how accidental the first beer was.

someone left barley water sitting around, airborne yeast settled & grew, it fermented, caveman drank, belched, said the caveman equivalent of "Budweiser Good ! Caveman Like !"

although i imagine some of the early experimenters may have gotten food poisoning or the Runs before they got the procedure down.

[BrewTech]

i wonder how accidental the first beer was.

someone left barley water sitting around, airborne yeast settled & grew, it fermented, caveman drank, belched, said the caveman equivalent of "Budweiser Good ! Caveman Like !"

although i imagine some of the early experimenters may have gotten food poisoning or the Runs before they got the procedure down.

Interestingly, no pathogenic microbes can survive Saccharomyces fermentation, although certain microbes can survive into the finished beer that can make the product less than palatable. This is said to be the reason beer was preferred over the local water supply during the middle ages; it was simply safer to drink.

[Neuro]

Interestingly, no pathogenic microbes can survive Saccharomyces fermentation, although certain microbes can survive into the finished beer that can make the product less than palatable. This is said to be the reason beer was preferred over the local water supply during the middle ages; it was simply safer to drink.
Yes this is correct, people in Sweden in Middle Ages, didn't drink water, only beer, because water wasn't safe, at least not in towns and villages, since sewage just went untreated into the streets and consequently into the shallow wells that constituted the water supply... I guess prior to the widespread use of fermentation, societies were kept at a small size, were the spread of pathological microbes were limited due to the small population, any societies that grew to big were soon limited by an epidemic. Interesting that beer may have actually been an important cornerstone to civilization! That is not the general image it has nowadays...

[steel_ag]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/logan84/7111613315/

Spinning Japanese beer, without the spin?

[Katmandu]

Brewtech, I was reading through some old threads and realized I somehow missed your post here. In answer, here are some recent ones that I have enjoyed:

Val Dieu - Grand Cru
Chimay - The Grande Reserve Blue
Rogue - Double Chocolate Stout
Mikkeller - Big Worse Barley Wine
Old Rasmussen - Russian Imperial Stout
Mc Chouffe - Belgium brown ale
Ballast Point - IPA

My favorite beer is generally one that I have never tried before.

Update, enjoyed these tonight, all excellent:

Dogfish Head, Burton Baton
Lagunitas, Maximus Ale
The Lost Abbey, Gift of the Magi
Stone, Double Bastard Ale

On the wishlist:
Russian River Brewing, Pliny The Elder
Russian River Brewing, Pliny The Younger
Brouwerij Westvleteren, Trappist Westvleteren 12

Cheers from a fellow hophead.