The Shetars Effect On English Law

[Glass]

I've been delving into the material from Creditors in Commerce. This deals with the core principles of creditors, debtors etc. This is a subset of information that can be found in the knowledge sharing of other groups of legal lay people some of whom are called freemen, redemptionists etc. So we are talking Winston Shrout, Ted Turner etc but not the patriot soveriegn stuff.

BUT

These guys are not involved in redemption or freemanship discussions. They are only interested in Commerce and how to deal with it.

They have a web site with some audio from seminars (http://www.creditorsincommerce.com/audio-workshops.php). I have been listening to the Boston material. File 1 is very poor audio. From File 2 the audio quality excellent.

OK. Am trying to give some perspective. They recommend people read the document "The Shetars Effect on the English Law" (http://www.pdfdetective.com/pdf/the-shetars-effect-on-english-law-588941.html). It is an interesting read as it deals with creditors, debtors and how the current laws came into being.

Now they claim it provides the "get out of jail" information to redeem land/property titles. It didn't jump out at me but it might do for someone else.

For me an interesting thing is something called "Usufruct". I mentioned this in another post I made here about Fee simple and Land ownership (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?54294-Fee-Simple-and-Land-Ownership-Rights-Explained&p=460645&viewfull=1#post460645). The meaning of Usufruct is basically that someone holds property in trust for another party and the trustee (the holder) may use and or consume said property or portion of said property for the purposes of maintianing themselves. This might be for using as shelter or as a location to conduct business. It might be that the trustee is transporting or storing food. The trustee has the right to consume part of that food as is necessary to sustain themselves.

The catch is that the trustee needs to make the trust (property) whole for presentation to the rightful owner. This ties directly into the land tenure system. Perhaps a tenancy could be considered a usufruct arrangment? Propbably not the best example. Someone carting food and supplies for someone else is probably a better example where they consume some of the goods during the journey.

[Glass]

If you hold something for someone, yet you can use said thing for your own needs, but on demand you must deliver that something in a condition as complete as you originally received it.

For land, I can be entrusted with it and I can plant or graze upon it or do whatever other thing and I can reap the rewards for the purpose of sustaining myself BUT when it is demanded I must hand over the something along with anything produced from the thing that was surplus to the sustenance. In some cases even the sustenance must be returned. I think this is Usufruct and I think you can overlay that concept onto a lot of things in todays world even though the principle is ancient.

I would suggest that surplus to the sustenance is something commonly known as
"profit". finding a solid definition of profit is pretty difficult. A lot of definitions are circular like: Profit is the result of the carrying on of a profit making enterprise.

It defines nothing. anyway I think the links between Usufruct and the Shetar is there and it comes from way back then right into the here and now.

[Son-of-Liberty]

tag for later

[gunDriller]

can't help but wonder if 'shetar' is linguistically connected to the word 'shit'.

[palani]

Interesting site to listen to. They also offer a "Mastery in Commerce" course over a 4-5 month period. Undoubtedly some truth can be uncovered in what they teach but truth frequently does not provide a shield from prison sentences. Brandon seems to have become wrapped up with some things that got him indicted

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/business/us-department-of-justice-sues-huntington-beach-ca-business-for-15-million-tax-fraud-scheme_100335496.html

The Montana Freemen fiasco shows that you are mostly free to do anything you like until you start messing with the monetary system. I guess this would be under the theory (Animal Farm) that while all animals are equal some animals are more equal that others.

[Glass]

thanks palani. Interestinger and interestinger......You don't hear any of that in their material. I know at least one of the 3 people presenting during the Boston seminar is still doing this work. Seems something's a miss here then doesn't it?

It does say it's a suit and not an indictment. There is no mention of criminal proceedings. I though that was interesting. I wonder how it is progressing. I wonder if his techniques work in this case.

Apparently not: http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2010/September/10-tax-1093.html


WASHINGTON - A federal court in Los Angeles has permanently barred three Huntington Beach men from preparing federal tax returns for customers, the Justice Department announced today. The civil injunction order, entered by U.S. District Judge A. Howard Matz, states that Alexander H. Adams, who does business as Adams Beach Income Tax, and his sons, Brandon A. Adams and Garrett R. Adams, prepare federal income tax returns claiming massive fraudulent tax refunds based on fabricated income tax withholdings.

The court order also bars the Adamses from promoting tax fraud schemes, including the 1099-OID program or "commercial redemption" program. The court held that the Adamses "promote a tax fraud scheme designed to siphon massive fraudulent tax refunds from the U.S. Treasury." The court found that under their scheme, the Adamses prepare various false IRS forms, such as Form 1099-OID, to request fraudulent refunds based on phony claims of large income tax withholding. The court order states that the scheme is based in part on defendants’ absurd claim that secret accounts exist that can be accessed to pay these refund claims.

According to the court order, the Adamses prepared tax returns claiming huge false tax refunds, often exceeding $500,000. Two of the returns, including one for Garrett Adams, included fraudulent claims of $2.5 million. Other courts have enjoined return preparers for promoting the same type scheme.

The court order also requires the Adamses to provide a list of their customers to the United States and to notify their customers of the injunction.

[palani]

Ahhh ... Injunction = Equity law

Probably getting into a copyright infringement ... only Treasury can inflict fraud upon people.

[Bigjon]

I wish I could remember the name of the fellow who had a radio program called "creditors in commerce"? There was some sort of scandal involved and he just disappeared... some thing about having about 3 different names.



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[Nomoss]

Thank you for the links.
B safe..

[Bigjon]

I remember now, his name or at least the name he was using was Sam Kennedy.
http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08/05/14/dr-sam-kennedy-archives-ucc-redemption-dealing-judiciary-and-private-corporations-f


Dr Sam Kennedy Archives - UCC / Redemption / Dealing With The Judiciary And Private Corporations (Fictions)
Wed, 05/14/2008 - 22:06 — Arthur Cristian

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Government public policy

As to the inability of the corporate United States to recognize and to work with any entity other than another artificial corporate type structure can be found in the case which is known as S.C.R. 1795, Penhallow v. Doane's Administraters 3 U.S. 54; 1 L.Ed. 57; 3 Dall. 54

“In as much as every government is an artificial person, an abstraction, and a creature of the mind only, a government can interface only with other artificial persons the imaginary having neither actuality or substance is foreclosed from creating and obtaining parody with the tangible, the legal manifestation of this is that no government as well as any law agency, aspect , court etc.. can concern itself with anything other than corporate artificial persons and the contracts between them.”

The various bankruptcies

The legally created fiction called the UNITED STATES is bankrupt and holds no lawful Constitutionally mandated silver or gold coin to back up or pay their debts. Privately held and federally held gold coins and bullion in America were seized by Executive Order of April 5, 1933 and paid to the creditor, the private Federal Reserve Bank Corporation (FRB) under the terms of bankruptcy.

Congress -- still meeting under Executive Order authority -- confirmed this bankruptcy through the Joint Resolution to Suspend The Gold Standard And Abrogate The Gold Clause, June 5, 1933 in H.J. Res. 192, 73rd Congress, 1st session, Public Law 73-10. Within this 1933 Public Law, it states in part:

“...every provision contained in or made with respect to any obligation which purports to give the obligee a right to require payment in gold or a particular kind of coin or currency, or in an amount in money of the United States measured thereby, is declared to be against public policy.”

In 1950, the corporate U.S. declared bankruptcy a second time, whereby the Secretary of Treasury was appointed as “Receiver” of the bankruptcy in Reorganization Plan No. 26, Title 5 USC 903, Public Law 94-564, Legislative History, page 5967.

The only asset the UNITED STATES has, in order to pay their bankruptcy debt since 1933, is the people themselves. If the UNITED STATES openly declared this, the people would never allow their labors and futures to be collateral to this bankruptcy debt. Consequently, they legally pledge the future labor and tax revenues of Americans, by and through the ALL CAPS fictional legal persons they have created, as collateral for credit to pay daily operational costs and the ever increasing debt.

ALL CAPS legal person v. the lawful being

Just who is the full caps person, i.e. JOHN JAMES SMITH? He's the legal fiction the government created to take the place of the real being, i.e. John James Smith. The lawful name of birthright has been substituted by a legal fiction created by the government. If the lawful Christian name answers as the legal person, the two are recognized as being one and the same. However, if the lawful being refuses to accept the legal fiction, the two are separated. Therein lies the simple solution: Refusal by the lawful person to accept or answer for the legal person.

How did this happen? A result of the federal government bankruptcies was their creation of a legal fiction known as THE UNITED STATES as a part of their legal reorganization. Each STATE was also converted to their respective fictional legal person, i.e. THE STATE OF IDAHO. Legal fictions can create further legal fictions, such as corporations or any other fictional person easily identified by being written with ALL CAPS.

All areas of government, including the purported courts of law, are currently authorized by, and operating as, legally created fictions. For example, the FIRST DISTRICT COURT OF THE STATE OF IDAHO or the U.S. DISTRICT COURT can only recognize other legal persons. This is why your lawful name is never entered in their records. It has been substituted with the legal person written with full caps. Jurisdiction in such legal fiction courts is only with other legal fictions. The only jurisdiction a lawful being can enter into is a lawful constitutional court.

(Note: While it does seem to be true the legal fiction governments and their legal fiction courts have no lawful jurisdiction over natural persons, they gladly use police power to arrest, assault and imprison natural persons until they acquiesce to their fictional authority. Justice, therefore, has nothing to do with what is right and wrong under the law, it is dominance and submission; one must either bow to the will of the state or be subject to its wrath).

The “catch 22” is that lawful courts no longer exist. Only “legal” courts are available to Americans.

ALL CAPs intent revealed

The purpose and reason for the government use of proper names written in ALL CAPS is now revealed. The only way to counter this is for lawful Americans to stop accepting the use of the substituted legal fiction the STATE has given them. Most documents now issued by government addresses the person written in ALL CAPS. Lawful Americans must insist that they are not that legal fiction and refuse to accept it. By joining together and doing so from the local level, each community will begin to upset the legal order. Lawful Americans must begin to demand lawful government and lawful courts. The legal fictions can only come to an end when the people refuse to use or recognize them.

The only way to restore lawful government in America is for the people to refuse the privileges of the legal government now unlawfully in place. We've all been duped. The use of full caps to write a proper name is absolutely no mistake.

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-Attorney attacks notary.doc 30-Aug-2007 01:01 36k

-Attorney-coverletter to CC.doc 30-Aug-2007 01:02 39k

-BIC_Process.doc 07-Nov-2007 23:13 115k

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-Chap 5. Handling Judicial Resistance.doc 16-Sep-2007 14:42 162k

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-Chap 7. Sam's Top Ten List of Constitutional Rebukes1.doc 16-Sep-2007 14:41 100k

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-IB_OB_PN_Explained.doc 30-Aug-2007 00:41 43k

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-OPTNL Not of Resciss of Appear Bond-SPN.doc 28-Jan-2008 02:02 143k

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- COLLECTING ON COMMERCIAL LIENS in bankruptcy

- Applying BIC to an ongoing GRAND JURY harassment investigation

- The specifics of using BIC for PRISON EXTRACTION

Concentrating on new technology including the revised BIC instruments, linking to existing BC bonds, application of the commercial lien process, three day Stage 1 and Stage 2 liquidation, enforcing with bankruptcy, Trial by Notary, and plaintiff lawsuits in admiralty, holding your own lien sale of THE BANK'S PROPERTY, and legal and lawful enforcement of converted liability using 1099s.
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