View Full Version : Coffee: The Greatest Addiction Ever
Golden
4th October 2011, 06:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTVE5iPMKLg&NR
No problem here. pffffff
palani
4th October 2011, 06:57 PM
I am told it is a good beverage .. people just dump it in the wrong orifice.
Golden
4th October 2011, 07:00 PM
Must muster the courage... lol
Joe King
4th October 2011, 07:03 PM
I am told it is a good beverage .. people just dump it in the wrong orifice.Which one's the right one? ???
MNeagle
4th October 2011, 07:04 PM
How many lattes did he have to talk that fast??
BabushkaLady
4th October 2011, 07:05 PM
I just don't know why so many young people drink garbage to get their caffeine. Why not just drink coffee?
palani
4th October 2011, 07:07 PM
Which one's the right one? ???
Enema ... something to do with stimulating the liver to remove toxins
Joe King
4th October 2011, 07:21 PM
Enema ... something to do with stimulating the liver to remove toxinshttp://www.oels.dk/smileys/shocked.gif
LuckyStrike
4th October 2011, 07:35 PM
I just don't know why so many young people drink garbage to get their caffeine. Why not just drink coffee?
Coffee makes me have to go to the bathroom, Red Bull doesn't. Plus I've never had enough coffee to have ever felt a boost in energy.
I like coffee but I don't drink it for energy.
BrewTech
4th October 2011, 08:02 PM
Coffee makes me have to go to the bathroom, Red Bull doesn't. Plus I've never had enough coffee to have ever felt a boost in energy.
I like coffee but I don't drink it for energy.
Coffee FTW! Red Bull FTW! Craft Beer FTW! Pure H2O FTW! Coconut Milk FTW!
I've said too much...
ximmy
4th October 2011, 11:53 PM
The more coffee the American worker drinks, the more productive hours she can work increasing payroll taxes... (TPTB approved)
lapis
5th October 2011, 12:19 AM
^^ That's for sure. I kicked the habit over a month ago, although now I drink a lot of iced tea sweetened with stevia.
Buddha
5th October 2011, 01:11 AM
So coffee is a conspiracy now?
sirgonzo420
5th October 2011, 05:41 AM
So coffee is a conspiracy now?
It always was, grasshopper.
keehah
5th October 2011, 05:56 AM
So coffee is a conspiracy now?
Don't forget nicotine!
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/138559-nicotine+helps+alzheimer's+and+parkinson's+patient s
The authors of this study suggest that earlier negative results on the effects of nicotine were due to the fact that they used normal and non-smoker populations, whose cognitive performance is already at peak for the individual. The nicotine has a detrimental effect on the performance of the individual, while those who are impaired tend to show improvement when given nicotine. This seems to suggest that intermediate levels of stimulation with nicotine produce optimal results, and in those individuals who do not either respond to nicotine as strongly as the general population or ingest nicotine compounds in foods are helped by nicotine patches or injections. Too much or too little nicotine has a detrimental effect on the brain. The conclusion reached in this study is that nicotine has the greatest effect on tasks requiring attention. The authors suggest that short or impaired attention, impaired thinking and executing tasks are separate from the disease diagnosis and that nicotine and its receptors should be considered as a target for drugs for those with Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, or ADHD.
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/138489-Brain+cells+work+differently+than+previously+thoug ht:+Nicotine+helps+to+spark+creativity
Increasingly, studies are beginning to show that complex information processing, and perhaps consciousness itself, may result from coordinated activity among many parts of the brain connected by bundles of long axons. Cognitive problems may occur when these areas don't communicate properly with each other. ..
In their experiment, they examined a section of mouse brain associated with hearing that contained a brain cell with an axon connecting to the cortex. Using nicotine, they stimulated the axon to determine how it would affect a signal the brain cell sent to the cortex. Without applying nicotine, about 35 percent of the messages sent by the brain cell reached the cortex. But when nicotine was applied to the axon, the success rate nearly doubled to about 70 percent.
"We looked for more conventional reasons why the response was enhanced, but the evidence just kept pointing to the axon. Nicotine activated the proteins that we think are on the axon," Metherate said.
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/139304-Let-s-All-Light-Up-
Perhaps society gets the orfice wrong on this one too.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2533102/
Conclusions. In this relatively small study of patients with active Crohn's colitis, 6 mg nicotine enemas appeared to be of clinical benefit in most patients. They were well tolerated and safe.
JDRock
5th October 2011, 06:04 AM
So coffee is a conspiracy now?
if it is, then im IN.....
lapis
5th October 2011, 06:59 AM
Don't forget nicotine!
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/138559-nicotine+helps+alzheimer's+and+parkinson's+patient s
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/138489-Brain+cells+work+differently+than+previously+thoug ht:+Nicotine+helps+to+spark+creativity
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/139304-Let-s-All-Light-Up-
I've been doing a lot of research lately on the medicinal uses of tobacco on SOTT.net. This is the only news site that reveals the truth about it and offers any kind of balanced perspective. I've always been suspicious of TBTB demonizing tobacco, but since I didn't smoke I didn't think too much of it.
I subscribe to SOTT.net's RSS news feed, so I've been reading all the articles on smoking they've posted the last year or so, and I'm blown away at the propaganda campaign against smoking. It's all literally bullshit! I think Big Pharma realized that millions of people were using tobacco as a way to self-medicate for schizophrenia, depression and other mental and emotional disorders instead of taking their poison pills, and they wanted a cut of that.
Glass
5th October 2011, 08:20 AM
I always figured that tabacco was not that bad. It was just the shit they put in the cigarettes that was the problem. Illegal to grow your own down here. I might if I could get seeds. Don't smoke now. Did for 20. Stopped nearly 15 ago. Like a cigar though but again haven't had any of those in a long while. Cigars take time to smoke properly and it's hard to find the time plus it's cold out. Weathers getting warmer and I have a few cigars from Venezuella I'm looking forward to smoking.
Now coffee I like but I'm down to 1 cup a week. The expresso machine has been stored away for a just about a couple years now. I like macchiato if you can find a barrista who can put a decent one together. I don't know but I think the macchiato might be a challenge to make for most. My weekly is a plain jane flat white.
I was watching a show called Time Team USA and they were digging on some island where the first settlers landed. They dug up some indian pipe bits and some european pipe bits. The Euro pipe was fashioned on the indian one but much much bigger. The indians use tabacco like a spiritual thing where as Brits just packed as much as they could and smoked it. Marijuana has traditionally been used in the same way as well. Native people use it spiritually and the white guy just packs as much as he can to achieve "shitface". These days the white guys spiritual utopian state seems to be "shitfaced". Not that that is a bad thing I suppose.
Still back to the OT. Its the stuff they put in that makes all the difference IMO.
DMac
5th October 2011, 08:36 AM
I've been doing a lot of research lately on the medicinal uses of tobacco on SOTT.net. This is the only news site that reveals the truth about it and offers any kind of balanced perspective. I've always been suspicious of TBTB demonizing tobacco, but since I didn't smoke I didn't think too much of it.
I subscribe to SOTT.net's RSS news feed, so I've been reading all the articles on smoking they've posted the last year or so, and I'm blown away at the propaganda campaign against smoking. It's all literally bullshit! I think Big Pharma realized that millions of people were using tobacco as a way to self-medicate for schizophrenia, depression and other mental and emotional disorders instead of taking their poison pills, and they wanted a cut of that.
When Fukushima blew up I found some studies online linking the reported increase in cig related cancers as a cover for Chernobyl related cancers. One of the items discussed was that smoking helped the lungs remove the hot particles that enter the body through coughing.
nunaem
5th October 2011, 09:40 AM
Smoking sucks. Coffee sucks.
I like my teeth white. That's why I use nicotine gum and caffeine pills.
milehi
5th October 2011, 11:34 AM
I very rarely drink coffee. Maybe two or three times a year, but I do have alot in preps to barter with.
mick silver
5th October 2011, 01:19 PM
i have 10 to 12 cups a day . if i dont have my coffee in the morning i would just stay in bed .
chad
5th October 2011, 01:21 PM
i'm with mick.
MAGNES
5th October 2011, 01:27 PM
i have 10 to 12 cups a day . if i dont have my coffee in the morning i would just stay in bed .
I been cutting back for years, have about 4 a day now, no wonder your
avatar keeps going and going and going.
I got 2 main vices, coffee and cigars, cut back on both big time.
Winter is the hardest, I am always out, not eating, a coffee does a lot.
TheNocturnalEgyptian
5th October 2011, 01:27 PM
I see people who are addicted to coffee all the time. Addicted to the point of being completely unable to function without it. It's none of my business but I always feel a little bad sometimes.
I empathize with it though. There was a time when I was drinking 1-2 pots of tea per day to myself. I like tea as a caffeine source - it's just as strong as coffee if you make it right. Plus the caffeine breaks down more slowly (6+ hour halflife in caffeinated tea) which means it's virutally impossible to crash from it. Just as strong, but way more gentle on your brain and your stomache.
However a while back I realized I was a slave, (even if enslaved to something good) and I eliminated tea/caffeine altogether for about a year. These days I randomly have tea when I desire it, but it is not uncommon for me to go all day with no caffeine whatsoever.
chad
5th October 2011, 01:29 PM
I see people who are addicted to coffee all the time. Addicted to the point of being completely unable to function without it. It's none of my business but personally I see that much caffeine as dehabilitating.
There was a time when I was drinking 1-2 pots of tea per day to myself. I like tea as a caffeine source - it's just as strong as coffee if you make it right. Plus the caffeine breaks down more slowly (6+ hour halflife in caffeinated tea) which means it's virutally impossible to crash from it.
However a while back I realized I was a slave, (even if enslaved to something good) and I eliminated tea/caffeine altogether for about a year. These days I randomly have tea when I desire it, but it is not uncommon for me to go about my day with no caffeine whatsoever.
i admire you, because i would kill myself without coffee.
mick silver
5th October 2011, 01:32 PM
everyone in this world is a slave to some thing but dont take away my coffee this would start a war
MAGNES
5th October 2011, 01:33 PM
When Fukushima blew up I found some studies online linking the reported increase in cig related cancers as a cover for Chernobyl related cancers. One of the items discussed was that smoking helped the lungs remove the hot particles that enter the body through coughing.
Naturally occurring radiation sticks to the underside of tobacco plants,
smoking a lot over years, depending on what you are smoking, tobacco
source, increases these particles in the lungs, and this is what causes
lung cancer. Was reading about this when that Litvenko episode happened.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Litvinenko
http://www.google.com/search?q=tobacco+polonium&btnG=Search&hl=en
Santa
5th October 2011, 01:56 PM
Wow. So Tea from China helped start the Enlightenment in Florence, Italy
And Coffee from South and Central America brought on the Industrial Age,
Whereas nicotine was what lit up the British Isles with the printing press and Shakespeare,
and thereafter, Cannabis gave us "Theater of the absurd." ;D
TheNocturnalEgyptian
5th October 2011, 01:59 PM
everyone in this world is a slave to some thing but dont take away my coffee this would start a war
True enough Mic, I have my addictions as do we all. Some of us just pretend that we are addiction free and therein lies the dishonesty. Not you though, you are always upfront =)
LuckyStrike
5th October 2011, 03:31 PM
I see people who are addicted to coffee all the time. Addicted to the point of being completely unable to function without it. It's none of my business but I always feel a little bad sometimes.
I empathize with it though. There was a time when I was drinking 1-2 pots of tea per day to myself. I like tea as a caffeine source - it's just as strong as coffee if you make it right. Plus the caffeine breaks down more slowly (6+ hour halflife in caffeinated tea) which means it's virutally impossible to crash from it. Just as strong, but way more gentle on your brain and your stomache.
However a while back I realized I was a slave, (even if enslaved to something good) and I eliminated tea/caffeine altogether for about a year. These days I randomly have tea when I desire it, but it is not uncommon for me to go all day with no caffeine whatsoever.
I am in agreement, I don't want to be addicted to anything, caffeine, cigs, pills whatever. I do smoke pretty much everyday, I don't get cravings if I don't but by 2-4 in the afternoon get a very noticeable deterioration in mental focus. I can and do function without smokes and faced with a good enough reason would stop.
I think most of it depends on why people smoke, drink or do drugs. For example I would say many if not most people use these things as a crutch, smoke cigs because they are stressed, drink or do drugs because they need to escape reality and if you use them as a crutch it becomes a necessary part of your life and nearly impossible to quit. I smoke because I honestly enjoy it and have since I was a kid, I don't need cigs to cope with my day, but as I said I see little reason to not do it. Same with alcohol, I like to drink at the right time and enjoy being inebriated from time to time, but I don't need to do this to cope with my life.
Not being an addict it is hard to understand an addicts mind, but that's the best this armchair psychologist can come up with.
Joe King
5th October 2011, 04:31 PM
I do smoke pretty much everyday, I don't get cravings if I don't but by 2-4 in the afternoon get a very noticeable deterioration in mental focus. I can and do function without smokes and faced with a good enough reason would stop.
I smoke because I honestly enjoy it and have since I was a kid, I don't need cigs to cope with my day, but as I said I see little reason to not do it.
Not being an addict it is hard to understand an addicts mind, but that's the best this armchair psychologist can come up with.What you are describing is a nicotine addiction. Albeit a seemingly minor one.
Addiction isn't limited to something one uses to cope with life, but rather anyhing you do habitually that when stopped, creates a change in ones physical and or mental state.
A "very noticeable deterioration in mental focus" within the context you used, is in fact a symptom of nicotine withdrawl.
* Poor concentration – Nicotine is a powerful stimulant which increases your memory as well as concentration. So when you quit smoking, lack of concentration is likely to occur due to lack of nicotine intake.
SLV^GLD
6th October 2011, 12:13 PM
"Enjoying smoking" is a euphemism for "nicotine withdrawal sucks".
LuckyStrike
6th October 2011, 12:32 PM
"Enjoying smoking" is a euphemism for "nicotine withdrawal sucks".
Not really, I've liked smoking since the first time I tried it. I enjoy the taste, smell and experience.
Just the way it is.
keehah
18th October 2011, 08:35 PM
It figures.
Senators urge baseball players to chew on smokeless tobacco ban (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2050754/Call-ban-baseball-players-chewing-tobacco.html#ixzz1bCA6usSf)
AP 19th October 2011
The letter was signed by Dick Durbin of Illinois, the number two Democrat in the Senate, and fellow Democrats Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey, Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut and Senate Health Committee Chairman Tom Harkin of Iowa.
The senators noted that millions of people will tune in to watch the World Series, including children.
'Unfortunately, as these young fans root for their favourite team and players, they also will watch their on-field heroes use smokeless tobacco products,' they wrote. Smokeless tobacco includes chewing tobacco and dip.
'It's going to be kind of hard to ban that,' Texas Rangers pitcher Matt Harrison said. 'They probably would have a big fight on their hands for that... They can hide it a little bit better, I guess - not be doing it in the dugout and showing it where kids can watch and stuff. But I think it's kind of like your own freedom. If that's what you want to do, then you do it.'
The pleas were made in separate letters, obtained on Tuesday by The Associated Press.
With baseball's current collective bargaining agreement expiring in December, the senators, some government officials and public health groups want the players to agree to a tobacco ban in the next contract. A coalition including the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Cancer Society and the American Medical Association has been pushing for one since last year.
lapis
18th October 2011, 09:36 PM
It figures.
Senators urge baseball players to chew on smokeless tobacco ban (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2050754/Call-ban-baseball-players-chewing-tobacco.html#ixzz1bCA6usSf)
Yep. And here's something along the same lines:
"First They Came for the Smokers... And I said Nothing Because I Was Not a Smoker (http://www.sott.net/articles/show/236457-First-They-Came-for-the-Smokers-And-I-said-Nothing-Because-I-Was-Not-a-Smoker)"
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