Vitamins May Increase Women's Risk of Dying, Research Finds

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Vitamins May Increase Women's Risk of Dying, Research Finds

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Popping vitamins may do more harm than good, according to a new study that adds to a growing body of evidence suggesting some supplements may have health risks.
Researchers from the University of Minnesota examined data from more than 38,000 women taking part in the Iowa Women's Health Study, an ongoing study with women who were around age 62 at its start in 1986. The researchers collected data on the women's supplement use in 1986, 1997 and 2004.
Women who took supplements had, on average, a 2.4 percent increased risk of dying over the course of the 19-year study, compared with women who didn't take supplements, after the researchers adjusted for factors including the women's age and calorie intake.
"Our study, as well as other similar studies, have provided very little evidence that commonly used dietary supplements (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Aj7CMxI2oCjPtIqb4bvEtzgbANEA;_ylu=X3oDMTFqMDg xZXM0BG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzEEc2VjA01lZGlhQ XJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=1329l6h7j/EXP=1319501996/**http%3A//www.myhealthnewsdaily.com/high-fiber-diet-better-than-supplements-1730/) would help to prevent chronic diseases," said study author Jaakko Mursu, an epidemiologist at the University of Minnesota School of Public Health.
"We would advise people to reconsider whether they need to use supplements, and put more emphasis on a healthy diet instead," Mursu said.
A toxic combination?
The new study linked a number of individual vitamins and minerals to the slight mortality risk, including multivitamins, vitamin B6, folic acid, iron, magnesium, zinc and copper.
For example, of the 12,769 women in the study who took a daily multivitamin, 40.8 percent had died by the end of 2008, whereas 39.8 percent of the 10,161 women who hadn't taken a daily multivitamin had died.
Mursu said that the design of the study did not allow the researchers to determine if there was a specific cause for the increased mortality.
"However, we do know that most compounds are toxic in high amounts, and long-term use might predispose [a person] to detrimental outcomes," he told MyHealthNewsDaily.
The increased chance of dying" could be related to generally high concentration of compounds that these supplements contain. Most supplements contain higher amounts of nutrients than would be derived from food, and it is known that several compounds can be toxic in higher amounts, especially when consumed for a long time, as some of these accumulate to body," Mursu said.
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Less is more
While vitamins and minerals are necessary for proper nutrition, excess intake has not shown further benefit, and recent studies have cast some doubt (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AuIKpIwaBKW2qGpSEfD8kXIbANEA;_ylu=X3oDMTFqaTN jbzlmBG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzMEc2VjA01lZGlhQ XJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=139vjqr49/EXP=1319501996/**http%3A//www.myhealthnewsdaily.com/health-value-of-omega-3-fatty-acids-questioned-1980/) on the idea that vitamin supplements provide a "safety net" for people not getting enough of a given nutrient. Instead, too much may be a problem.
The study, published today (Oct. 10) in the journal Archives of Internal Medicine, is part of a series examining interventions in medicine that may be unnecessary.
"Until recently, the available data regarding the adverse effects of dietary supplements has been limited and grossly underreported. We think the paradigm "the more, the better" is wrong," wrote Dr. Goran Bjelakovic and Dr. Christian Gluud, of the Center for Clinical Intervention Research at Copenhagen University Hospital in Denmark in an accompanying commentary.
"We believe that for all micronutrients, risks are associated with insufficient and too-large intake. Low levels of intake increase the risk of deficiency. High levels of intake increase the risk of toxic effects and disease," they wrote.
"Therefore, we believe that politicians and regulatory authorities should wake up to their responsibility to allow only safe products on the market," they wrote.
Pass it on: A new study shows that for women, a healthy diet might be a better way to stave off diseases than supplements.
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[Cebu_4_2]

Didnt even absorb the BS before I posted, complete BS all the way around. MSM at its Zionist best I assume.

[ximmy]

However, the study finds that prescription drugs are really good for you... :D

[Cebu_4_2]

However, the study finds that prescription drugs are really good for you... :D

Can you quotation that? I send all this shit to my congressman and stuff... lol. I am definitely on the no-fly list.

[keehah]

MSM at its Zionist best I assume.

Yep. Like Cancer Treatment May Increase your Risk of Dying of Cancer

I'll bet if one studied people in two groups, those who had cancer treatment, and those who did not have treatment, more who had a cancer treatment died of cancer.

[Gaillo]

However, the study finds that prescription drugs are really good for you... :D

Yes... and the study ALSO found that a heavy regimen of vaccines makes you practically immortal! ;D

[Glass]

I saw this article a few days ago and did the usual Yeah Right. How can this be even credible. It's like that stupid supersize me rubbish. I liked the bit about the B12 vitamins.

The key points to the artcile are:


Its a multimillion-dollar industry (and we - pharamaco want it all)
"We don't encourage people to indiscriminately self-select supplements. They need advice from a trusted healthcare professional,"

Of couse this is a kicker as well: But if people are otherwise healthy, and adequately nourished, then why are they taking additional supplements?"

It's pretty difficult to actually gain nourishment from what passes as food these days so how is someone going to get "adequate". Nuff said.


3000 vitamins in five months: what does that do?

So what happens if you take 3000 vitamin supplements over five months? Following the experience of Time journalist John Cloud (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2091367,00.html), precious little.

Cloud experimented on himself by following a regimen of vitamin pills, suggested to him by a vitamin company in the US. He took 22 pills a day, as well as protein bars and psyllium fibre.

His doctor checked him out before and after his experiment. The only noticeable effect was that his vitamin D levels had increased, and so had his girth - by almost five kilograms.
His experiment has inspired mixed reactions in the scientific and business community in Australia, where vitamins are a multimillion-dollar industry.

Sydney University associate professor in human nutrition, Samir Samman, said the largest body of evidence on vitamin use showed their efficacy was questionable. He pointed to clinical trials of people suffering from cardiovascular disease who were given vitamins A, E, and C, beta-carotene and selenium.

"The first really important finding was that these made no effect - that there was no improvement in people taking large amounts of vitamins in relation to cardiovascular disease," Professor Samman said. "The statistics also showed that large doses of vitamins actually have a small, but statistically significent, increase in mortality for these patients." He said Cloud's experiment came to similar conclusions as other academic research into the efficacy of vitamins.

"You find sporadic bits of information promoting this, or saying that this is beneficial if you are being treated for a condition," he said. "But if people are otherwise healthy, and adequately nourished, then why are they taking additional supplements?"

Australian Medical Association chairman of the council of general practice, Brian Morton praised Cloud's experiment. "It may not stand up to a class one evidence test but it is not a bad way of monitoring how effective supplements are for you," Dr Morton said. "I would suggest talking to your GP before you start taking supplements, but if you are going to do it yourself - jot down why you are doing it and what you want to get better. Buy enough for a month and then see if you are any better."

Dr Morton said that he rarely suggests vitamins to his patients, unless they are suffering from a serious illness. "If for example, a patient has been treated for cancer, and their appetite and vitamin intake is down because of all those awful side effects, I will suggest a multi-vitamin. "But, otherwise, you should not take them without good reason. Most Australians have the problem that their diet has an excess, not a deficiency, of vitamins."

President of the Vegan Society of NSW Greg McFarlane said it was a myth that people on strict vegetarian or vegan diets need iron and calcium supplements. ‘‘We believe that a well-balanced vegan diet can provide all necessary nutrients except for B12, and so we would recommend taking a B12 supplement. This is because it comes from bacteria - which you can only get either from meat or from dirty food,’’ Mr McFarlane said.

Blackmores director of education, Pam Stone, who is also a naturopath, agreed that supplements had to be taken in consultation with a doctor or pharmacist. But she said it was wrong to assume from Cloud's experiment that vitamin supplements had no use. "It comes down to people taking responsibility for their health and well-being, and looking after their diet and overall lifestyle," Ms Stone said. "You need five serves of vegetables every day, and you can't expect that a multivitamin will [replace] that.

"We don't encourage people to indiscriminately self-select supplements. They need advice from a trusted healthcare professional," she said.

Article @ the Age (http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/diet-and-fitness/3000-vitamins-in-five-months-what-does-that-do-20111010-1lgnh.html)

[Hatha Sunahara]

Codex Alimentarius is the agenda behind this. Big Pharma wants government to make vitamins and nutritional supplements illegal without a prescription. It's a bid to destroy all medicine that is not allopathic, and to control everything we put into our bodies. Goes hand in hand with outlawing growing your own food. Now they want us to believe that vitamins will kill us. Just like marijuana is dangerous. Nevertheless there are many who will swallow this bullshit whole, and condemn anybody who doesn't believe it.


Hatha

[Neuro]

So they adjusted for age and calorie intake. Did they also adjust for pre-existing health conditions? I think it is likely that women who have healthproblems are more likely to consume multivitamins, they are also more likely to die earlier... But the supplement may very well have prolonged their life, not the opposite...