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General of Darkness
21st October 2011, 06:40 PM
FYI - The only reason I'm posting this is because the truth must be heard and that is't the only dog I have in this hunt. While I fucking hate jews and islam, I can recognize tyranny. The this zionist lead guberment we call the U.S. and most western countries are fucking tyrants.

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Topic started on 21-10-2011 @ 04:32 PM by CasiusIgnoranze I decided to make this thread in memory of a Leader who was greatly misunderstood, betrayed and eventually murdered. Whatever preconceived beliefs you may have of the dead man now, there is no denying about the fact about the overwhelming amount of evidence of the GOOD things Gaddafi did and was potentially going to do.

This is not some "communist", "socialistic" Propaganda that "I'm preaching". Most of it is the cold hard truth which I know is hard to swallow and in no way I'm saying Gaddafi was a complete saint. He was a revolutionary whose ideas posed a great threat to the mainstream Elite establishment - and that is something history will forget depending on who writes the history books.

I hope ya’ll don’t mind this thread being a bit long, as I intend to destroy EVERY LIE about Gaddafi told to you by the Mainstream Media, one by one. http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/smilies/wink.gif


LIE 1: “There were Human rights abuses in Libya and Gaddafi slaughtered his own people”

The primary justification for intervention in Libya by NATO was because "there were severe human rights abuses" under Gaddafi's rule. These claims were in reality, far fetched and laughable, because Libya probably had far better human rights than any other country in Africa. What YOU were told by those Mainstream Media fanatics including all those so called "human rights" groups like Amnesty International (which is no doubt another front controlled by the Elite), were all either fabricated lies or deliberately exaggerated for the justified NATO intervention.
This damning piece of evidence (dated 4th January 2011) from the UN Human Rights website which clearly shows undeniable proof that there was absolutely NO EVIDENCE of serious Human Right's abuses as accused by NATO and UN presently.
Libya Human Rights Report by UN - 4th January 2011 (http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/16session/A-HRC-16-15.pdf)

Whats more, SEVERAL countries even praised Libya's excellent Human rights Track Record but they still decided to topple Gaddafi! Hypocrisy or what?!


LIE 2: “The people of Libya were oppressed and were living in poverty under Gaddafi’s rule”

This lie is probably the funniest, and the easiest to debunk.

There was very little poverty (almost compared to Western standards) and Libya had literally the best living standards in Africa ranking 55th out of 172 countries (before NATO and Rebel interference) according to the Human Development Index - 0.755 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_Human_Development_Ind ex)

The people in Libya under Gaddafi’s rule had:

Free education,
Free health care,
Free farmland a house and seeds,
Free energy bills,
$50,000 housing money for just married couples,
Interest free loans,
Debt free country,
Government pays half for your car,
Near free gasoline prices
etc.

The people in Libya were oppressed MY A$$! This country sounds like the American dream which the people of America never had! http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/smilies/lol.gif

And just to note, almost EVERY country in Africa today is dependent on Foreign Aid, except Libya (during Gaddafi's rule). This will be further analysed later in the thread.

The Truth about Libya (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread746205/pg1)


YouTube Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6Ek)



LIE 3: Gaddafi was responsible for the Lockerbie Bombing

Libya and Gaddafi was FRAMED for the Lockerbie Bombing. END OFF. This was probably one of the EARLIEST LIES to frame Gaddafi and socially engineer the public’s perception of him.

This is based on the premise that key evidence presented at the trial (e.g. timer fragment, parts from a specific radio cassette model, clothing bought in Malta, bomb suitcase originating at Luqa Airport) was deliberately fabricated by the U.S. and Britain for the "political" purpose of incriminating Libya.

Why?

Because of all the reasons stated above and below. Libya was bad for Big business and Big Banking, so something had to be done – like the Lockerbie Bombing, so that lies could be fabricated and Gaddafi could be demonised over the years until his death.

Even though Gaddafi was never involved in the Lockerbie Bombing, recently the mainstream media is jumping around the fact that he somehow “was”.

You can read more about the Lockerbie conspiracy here if you're interested: The Lockerbie Bombing Conspiracy (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread494260/pg1)

LIE 4: “Gaddafi wanted to become the king of Africa and enslave all the people”

On the contrary, Gaddafi wanted a more united Africa...an Africa which was independent of Western interference and exploitation.
You ever wonder why the billions of $$$ in Aid never actually help the people of Africa in the long term? Because its bad for big business. Simple as that.
If you start getting a stronger Africa both economically and politically, then Big Multinational Corporations would literally be BANKRUPT, DEAD and ERADICATED over night.

Why?

Because their business models literally WORK AND DEPEND on SLAVERY.

Pay some African kid less than a dollar a day to make shoes, and then sell the shoes for $50 in the market. 5000% profit made. Most of it goes to the board of directors not because they are doing good business – but because THEY CAN benefit by exploiting the African people and smacking the “Fair Trade” label on everything so that when we the consumer buy stuff, do not have to feel guilty about buying products made in Third World Countries.
Why Fair trade is NOT FAIR – THE TELEGRAPH (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/janetdaley/3555412/Forget-Fairtrade-only-free-trade-can-help-poor.html)


LIE 5: “The wealth of Gaddafi will be redistributed to the people of Libya”

And this is it folks, the biggest lie ever told in the history of Libya (and to the World aswell) - “The wealth of Gaddafi will be redistributed to the people of Libya”.

Even if you may still have doubts whether Gaddafi was really the Good guy or not, theres no DENYING about the fact the sole reason why NATO intervened in Libya was due to Economical reasons.

Why punish the banks during an economic crisis when you can easily profit from a war based on a lie?

UN to steal 144 tons of Gold from Libya (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread743272/pg1)


Some believe it is about protecting civilians, others say it is about oil, but some are convinced intervention in Libya is all about Gaddafi’s plan to introduce the gold dinar, a single African currency made from gold, a true sharing of the wealth.
“It’s one of these things that you have to plan almost in secret, because as soon as you say you’re going to change over from the dollar to something else, you’re going to be targeted,” says Ministry of Peace founder Dr James Thring. “There were two conferences on this, in 1986 and 2000, organized by Gaddafi. Everybody was interested, most countries in Africa were keen.”
Gaddafi did not give up. In the months leading up to the military intervention, he called on African and Muslim nations to join together to create this new currency that would rival the dollar and euro. They would sell oil and other resources around the world only for gold dinars.
It is an idea that would shift the economic balance of the world.

Saving the World Economy from Gaddafi - RT NEWS (http://rt.com/news/economy-oil-gold-libya/)
That’s right folks, Gaddafi wanted OUT of the International Banking Scam which was (still is) gripping the World. The Elite couldn’t have that, so they started a couple of false flag protests, added a pinch of Al Qaeda militants to create bloodshed to make every sap in the World believe Gaddafi was killing his people, and then finally justify military intervention in the name of “FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY”.

As you can see, Libya was truly a far better country before this Illegal Civil War and NATO interference.

I pray for the people in Libya now because most of this wealth of Gaddafi "being redistributed”, will mostly go to the Big Banking firms and Multinationals immediately as “debt to be paid”.

And yeah, remember those words: FREEDOM AND DEMORACY.

I’m sure that is something we people here in the West VERY MUCH wish to have right now.


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"A man may die, nations may rise and fall, but an idea lives on" — John F. Kennedy


The ONLY REAL THING I HATE ABOUT HIM, is he helped free that cunt Mandela.

Link.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread767009/pg1

DMac
22nd October 2011, 06:35 AM
I've been shattering delusions within my social circle regarding Libya s this circus of death made it's way through the wires, but I have been missing a piece of information - the Lockerbie bombing. I've had suspicions for a long time that MI6 was involved but I never put time into researching it. This seems to be most folks justification for taking down Q. "Well he did blow up that plane!" I've needed a link explaining how the liarstream media is full of it.

Thanks for the post General, this is a nice, concise list of points demonstrating just how distorted, criminal and downright evil our media and reps have become.

gunDriller
22nd October 2011, 07:10 AM
I've been shattering delusions within my social circle regarding Libya s this circus of death made it's way through the wires, but I have been missing a piece of information - the Lockerbie bombing. I've had suspicions for a long time that MI6 was involved but I never put time into researching it. This seems to be most folks justification for taking down Q. "Well he did blow up that plane!" I've needed a link explaining how the liarstream media is full of it.

Thanks for the post General, this is a nice, concise list of points demonstrating just how distorted, criminal and downright evil our media and reps have become.

after a while, one's history notes become a big hairball, not so easy to manage ... at least mine do.

i know that i've read credible accounts about the "Magic suitcase", the suitcase that held the bomb. it reminds me of that Die Hard movie where Bruce Willis is riding the suitcase conveyor at the airport.

the Lockerbie "magic suitcase" went from one conveyor belt, to another, to another - not by automation, but because it was hand-carried.

among the passengers on the Lockerbie plane was a group of American "white hats" - high-ranking military police who had been sent to investigate drug dealing & other nefarious acts involving the US military. they were on their way home to report their findings, which were extensive & earth-shaking.


but ... that info is in the hair-ball ... can't find it.

of course, we know which country is most involved in airport security - Israel.

i wonder if that's why Qaddafi had to be shot - to keep him from telling the truth about Lockerbie at a possible trial.

Neuro
22nd October 2011, 08:23 AM
I think the Gaddafi-Lockerbie bombing and Ahmedinejad says Israel should be wiped off the map comment have many things in common. They never happened, but it was reported so many times in media, that most people think it is preposterous to even argue against it...

Same with the holohoax and 911...

DMac
22nd October 2011, 09:49 AM
Video:

Killing of Gaddafi and NATO's Money-Driven Wars of Conquest (http://tv.globalresearch.ca/2011/10/killing-gaddafi-and-natos-money-driven-wars-conquest)


Michel Chossudovsky
Posted on: October 21, 2011


Killing of Gaddafi and NATO's Money-Driven Wars of Conquest
by grtv

After nearly a two month manhunt, former Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi was found and killed. Revolutionary forces flooded his hometown, Sirte, and according to some reports, the US fired a drone missile at his convoy causing his death.

Michel Chossudovsky, director for the Centre for Research on Globalization, tells us more about today's events.

Twisted Titan
22nd October 2011, 02:29 PM
anybody got a age on kaddaff?


he had to be in his early 70's no?

Libertarian_Guard
22nd October 2011, 03:20 PM
Here's a little tidbit that WILL NOT be recorded as a matter of history either.

Obama accomplished part of Bush's unfinished business here.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXS3vW47mOE

Olmstein
22nd October 2011, 07:09 PM
I think the Gaddafi-Lockerbie bombing and Ahmedinejad says Israel should be wiped off the map comment have many things in common. They never happened, but it was reported so many times in media, that most people think it is preposterous to even argue against it...

Same with the holohoax and 911...

If you repeat a lie often enough...



Plus, Gaddafi took power in Libya when he was 27 years old. Just think about what you were doing when you were 27. I bet you weren't overthrowing any governments and installing yourself as dictator for life. 27 years old. That's balls.

Grog
22nd October 2011, 08:28 PM
I bet you weren't overthrowing any governments and installing yourself as dictator for life. 27 years old. That's balls.

Call me a bad man, etc. I don't care. He had style. All female guard? Come on! The guy gets style points there!

I don't see him being any worse than any of our last three or four presidents. Each of these bozos did what he was accused of, and more, IMO. Actually, I have a bit more respect for him than our last few pres. He had a sense of style. I will miss his presence in the world arena.

Twisted Titan
22nd October 2011, 10:00 PM
There was a picture of kaddifi that was a favorite

It had like 7 world leaders they were all in dark suits( blue black)

Kaddaffi was the lone stand out in a white suit with a black shall and kool shades.

Anybody else remeber that pic??

osoab
23rd October 2011, 03:56 AM
There was a picture of kaddifi that was a favorite

It had like 7 world leaders they were all in dark suits( blue black)

Kaddaffi was the lone stand out in a white suit with a black shall and kool shades.

Anybody else remeber that pic??

Article is from 2009
Colonel Qaddafi—A Life in Fashion (http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/08/qaddafi-slideshow200908#slide=1)



http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/08/qaddafi-slideshow200908/_jcr_content/par/cn_contentwell/par-main/cn_slideshow/item0.rendition.slideshowHorizontal.qaddafi-0908-ps01.jpg



Qaddafi, in a lineup of G8 leaders at a summit this year in L’Aquila, Italy, channels Saturday Night Fever in a white suit under the traditional Arabic bisht, accessorized with a small billboard of medals and, on his right breast, a brooch of Africa, just in case anyone forgot that Muammar is the president of the African Union. From UPI/Landov.

Twisted Titan
23rd October 2011, 06:43 AM
Bad Azz to the very End

gunDriller
23rd October 2011, 07:17 AM
Right now there is a made for TV movie series, "Carlos the Jackal".

most of us have been raised to think of him as a Muy Terrible person.

but he's basically -
* from Venezuela
* pro-Palestinian
* anti-OPEC

sounds like a freedom fighter to me !

a Muslim from Venezuela who opposes Israel - tailor made to be the bad guy in Hollywood movies.

Horn
23rd October 2011, 10:04 AM
Guess Chavez is next with his Gold delivery?

I know Libya had many financial allies as well, this could start domino effect in those areas.

Canadian-guerilla
24th October 2011, 07:06 AM
LIE 2: “The people of Libya were oppressed and were living in poverty under Gaddafi’s rule”

This lie is probably the funniest, and the easiest to debunk.

There was very little poverty (almost compared to Western standards) and Libya had literally the best living standards in Africa ranking 55th out of 172 countries (before NATO and Rebel interference) according to the Human Development Index - 0.755 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_Human_Development_Ind ex)

The people in Libya under Gaddafi’s rule had:

Free education,
Free health care,
Free farmland a house and seeds,
Free energy bills,
$50,000 housing money for just married couples,
Interest free loans,
Debt free country,
Government pays half for your car,
Near free gasoline prices
etc.


how many years will go by before the Libyean people start saying " we had a better life under Gaddafi "

Twisted Titan
24th October 2011, 07:21 AM
Not even 6 mos

letter_factory
24th October 2011, 07:30 AM
can't believe those rebels sodomized him with a freaking knife! when hillary clinton said "we came" I bet she literally did...

Cebu_4_2
24th October 2011, 11:00 AM
can't believe those rebels sodomized him with a freaking knife! when hillary clinton said "we came" I bet she literally did...

WHAT?

Link to article?