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Ares
24th October 2011, 07:20 AM
The Vatican called on Monday for the establishment of a "global public authority" and a "central world bank" to rule over financial institutions that have become outdated and often ineffective in dealing fairly with crises.

The document from the Vatican's Justice and Peace department should please the "Occupy Wall Street" demonstrators and similar movements around the world who have protested against the economic downturn.

"Towards Reforming the International Financial and Monetary Systems in the Context of a Global Public Authority," was at times very specific, calling, for example, for taxation measures on financial transactions.

"The economic and financial crisis which the world is going through calls everyone, individuals and peoples, to examine in depth the principles and the cultural and moral values at the basis of social coexistence," it said.

It condemned what it called "the idolatry of the market" as well as a "neo-liberal thinking" that it said looked exclusively at technical solutions to economic problems.

"In fact, the crisis has revealed behaviours like selfishness, collective greed and hoarding of goods on a great scale," it said, adding that world economics needed an "ethic of solidarity" among rich and poor nations.

"If no solutions are found to the various forms of injustice, the negative effects that will follow on the social, political and economic level will be destined to create a climate of growing hostility and even violence, and ultimately undermine the very foundations of democratic institutions, even the ones considered most solid," it said.

It called for the establishment of "a supranational authority" with worldwide scope and "universal jurisdiction" to guide economic policies and decisions.

Such an authority should start with the United Nations as its reference point but later become independent and be endowed with the power to see to it that developed countries were not allowed to wield "excessive power over the weaker countries".

Asked at a news conference if the document could become a manifesto for the movement of the "indignant ones", who have criticised global economic policies, Cardinal Peter Turkson, head of the Vatican's Justice and Peace department, said:

"The people on Wall Street need to sit down and go through a process of discernment and see whether their role managing the finances of the world is actually serving the interests of humanity and the common good.

"We are calling for all these bodies and organisations to sit down and do a little bit of re-thinking."

EFFECTIVE STRUCTURES

In a section explaining why the Vatican felt the reform of the global economy was necessary, the document said:

"In economic and financial matters, the most significant difficulties come from the lack of an effective set of structures that can guarantee, in addition to a system of governance, a system of government for the economy and international finance."

It said the International Monetary Fund (IMF) no longer had the power or ability to stabilise world finance by regulating overall money supply and it was no longer able to watch "over the amount of credit risk taken on by the system".

The world needed a "minimum shared body of rules to manage the global financial market" and "some form of global monetary management".

"In fact, one can see an emerging requirement for a body that will carry out the functions of a kind of ‘central world bank' that regulates the flow and system of monetary exchanges similar to the national central banks," it said.

The document acknowledged that such change would take years to put into place and was bound to encounter resistance.

"Of course, this transformation will be made at the cost of a gradual, balanced transfer of a part of each nation's powers to a world authority and to regional authorities, but this is necessary at a time when the dynamism of human society and the economy and the progress of technology are transcending borders, which are in fact already very eroded in a globalised world."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-vatican-calls-for-global-authority-on-economy-20111024,0,3009511.story

palani
24th October 2011, 07:23 AM
I think it is a good idea that they take care of THEIR economy and THEIR banking. Nobody else is going to do this for THEM.

Joe King
24th October 2011, 07:24 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_T7O_yHqa25I/R3p4MsUBvqI/AAAAAAAABGw/OzwjiwoVFR4/s320/gomer-surprise.jpg

po boy
24th October 2011, 07:52 AM
Vatican calls for one world religion, uh wait wrong thread my bad.

midnight rambler
24th October 2011, 08:21 AM
Vatican calls for one world religion, uh wait wrong thread my bad.

There's a distinction between 'religion' and the *belief* that private credit created out of thin air is actually 'money'?? ???

vacuum
24th October 2011, 08:25 AM
So this will please the 'Occupy Wall Street' protestors. I see.

Good thing we've got all those economics phds in the cathedrals in the Vatican keeping studying monetary theory and global economic data.

Awoke
24th October 2011, 08:26 AM
I wish the vatican would call for the universal right to bear arms.

vacuum
24th October 2011, 08:26 AM
http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1385&d=1319469397

palani
24th October 2011, 08:27 AM
They might want to get a handle on the "Choir Boys for International Sex" trade before they start taking on global banking.

Silver Rocket Bitches!
24th October 2011, 08:32 AM
Just what the IMF wanted to hear.

StreetsOfGold
24th October 2011, 12:33 PM
Did you expect anything less from the Great Whore of Rev. 17 from which the Anti-Christ will be working with?

Awoke
24th October 2011, 12:41 PM
1387

mrnhtbr2232
24th October 2011, 01:41 PM
We are living in the epoch of mankind inheriting artificial realities over natural ones, and the constant dynamic of confusion and false sense of urgency is driving coexistence in the direction of social cannibalism. The global public authority they offer is neither cultural or moral, but serves its purpose to perpetuate the Papacy's role in the NWO board room. Solidarity between rich and poor is immutable economic and national suicide by design, but always an easy mark for those wearing robes and cloistered in power.

palani
24th October 2011, 01:45 PM
Hang around. You are going to see more odd things with the transition from the Age of Pisces to the Age of Aquarius.

Pay attention. You might eventually end up seeing a man standing in a doorway pouring water from a jug.

Joe King
24th October 2011, 01:57 PM
Pay attention. You might eventually end up seeing a man standing in a doorway pouring water from a jug.
Actually, I see that everyday already. The guy that lives across the street has like 50 cats him and his wife feed {yea, I know what you're thinkin'} and everyday I see him standin' in the door over there pourin' water in a little trough for them out of big jug. lol

Yea, I know what you're thinkin' and yea I've talked to him about them and he's gonna do something about 'em. Says he only really wants three of 'em. They got a dog too. When they walk it down the sidewalk, a dozen cats will follow along. It's bordering on comical.
Neighbor up the street calls him "Mr Cat". lol

Edited to add: Haven't seen any mice around lately though.

palani
24th October 2011, 02:00 PM
Actually, I see that everyday already. The guy that lives across the street has like 50 cats him and his wife feed {yea, I know what you're thinkin'} and everyday I see him standin' in the door over there pourin' water in a little trough for them out of big jug. lol

Yea, I know what you're thinkin' and yea I've talked to him about them and he's gonna do something about 'em. Says he only really wants three of 'em. They got a dog too. When they walk it down the sidewalk, a dozen cats will follow along. It's bordering on comical.
Neighbor up the street calls him "Mr Cat". lol

Edited to add: Haven't seen any mice around lately though.

There ya' go. That's the sign.

Joe King
24th October 2011, 02:08 PM
There ya' go. That's the sign.What? the no mice thing?

Serpo
24th October 2011, 03:28 PM
A List of Masons in The Hierarchy of the Catholic Church



http://catholic.cephasministry.com/masonlst.html

PatColo
25th October 2011, 09:21 PM
guest writer @ Makow, check link for reader comments, they're usu very worthwhile:


Vatican Dedicated to Luciferian World Gov't. (http://www.henrymakow.com/vatican_confirms_it_is_under_l.html)

October 25, 2011
http://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/PopeHandSign.jpg[The Vatican] plan would destroy national sovereignty ... It is Hegelian dialectics at its best. They are aiming for Marxism from both conservative (Catholic) and liberal (new age, Democrats, Occupy Wall Street) sides. The synthesis is unavoidable.

by Marcos
(henrymakow.com)

The Vatican Justice and Peace Department released a paper (http://www.corriere.it/economia/11_ottobre_24/vaticano-documento-crisi-liberismo_ddda6984-fe28-11e0-bb8b-fd7e32debc75.shtml) Monday, "Towards Reforming the International Financial and Monetary Systems in the Context of a Global Public Authority," calling for a "Global Institution" run by the United Nations to rule the globe's finances.

The wording of the paper is almost religious: il riferimento ad un'Autorità mondiale diviene l'unico orizzonte compatibile con le nuove realtà del nostro tempo e con i bisogni della specie umana.
"the reference to a world authority is the only horizon compatible with the new reality of our times and with the needs of humankind".

This materialistic view goes against 2000 years of Christian thought, which states that Jesus Christ is the final fulfillment of human needs and that God takes (economic, material) care even of birds and the lilies in the fields.

The document suggests measures that have been a banner of the new world order for some time, such as taxation on financial transactions.

These ideas have been fostered by people such as Al Gore and the big banks, which would love to manage and trade the carbon taxes. Now, with the failure of the global warming hoax, a global financial tax seems to be on the agenda. No doubt this is very timely, just after the United States has bailed out several banks and Europe is about to spend more than one trillion dollars saving some more banks. Why not do it with this new tax ?

If put into action, such a plan would effectively destroy the sovereignty of countries, which would loose the control over their currency. It says, "In fact, one can see an emerging requirement for a body that will carry out the functions of a kind of 'central world bank' that regulates the flow and system of monetary exchanges similar to the national central banks".

Not surprisingly, Bishop Mario Toso, the Secretary of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, is an admirer of new world order leader and Marxist advocate George Soros.

In a time when the Roman Church is under severe attack for the many cases of pedophilia and is losing ground every year to evangelical churches in Latin America and even with Hispanics in the US, it is a wonder that they leave religious themes behind in order to put their muscle behind a globalist agenda.

We have to remember that the Roman Church has been active for decades behind the "Liberation Theology", a Marxist distortion of the gospel that has been used to set Latin America and other Third World countries in the direction of Communism.

For a time, it seemed that Roman leadership was back to a more conservative direction, but now it looks like they are only aiming on a different, global level that involves the developed countries as well.

It is not the first time that Pope Benedict has called for a global authority. In 2009, (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/08/world/europe/08pope.html) he urged that such an entity be created in order to " oversee the economy and work for the common good". In March 2011, (http://mountzion144.ning.com/group/thetruthrevealed/forum/topics/pope-benedict-says-we-need-a?commentId=2127676%3AComment%3A573594&xg_source=activity&groupId=2127676%3AGroup%3A401351) he called for a world authority with "real teeth."

In a spiritual sense, it seems that some Protestant authors such as Dave Hunt were right. In his book "A Woman Rides the Beast", he claims that the Roman Church is the woman dressed in scarlet in Revelations that helps anti Christ to achieve power and consolidate his world government, only to be later betrayed by him. It is a scary thought.

http://www.henrymakow.com/vatican_confirms_it_is_under_l.html

mightymanx
25th October 2011, 10:06 PM
Funny All this time I thought Jesus was against money changers.


Oops my bad must have been "Hey-seuse" the gardener they were talking about in that leather bound book.

Or the Vatacians take on it is:

"If it good enough to be a standard...Make mine a double!"

keehah
5th December 2011, 07:00 AM
Sarkozy, Merkel seek new EU treaty (http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2011/12/05/europe-financial-crisis-markets.html)
The Associated Press Posted: Dec 5, 2011

The leaders of Germany and France are calling for a new European Union treaty to ensure that the region's debt crisis never happens again.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy said Monday after a meeting with German Chancellor Angela Merkel that they would prefer a treaty agreed by all 27 members of the European Union but would also accept a treaty among just the 17 countries that use the euro.

The new treaty should include automatic sanctions for countries that violate rules meant to keep government deficits in check.

Horn
5th December 2011, 07:47 AM
U.K. Drops Anti-Catholic Rule of Succession

by JAMES KELLY 12/01/2011


Recently, the British government did away with its more than 300-year-old law that stated that a member of the royal family would lose his place in the line of succession if he married a Catholic. From our Dec. 4 issue.


LONDON — Catholic leaders and commentators in the U.K. have welcomed a change in the law regarding the royal succession but have expressed reservations that it does not go far enough.


Following the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting, attended by the 16 nations of which Queen Elizabeth II is monarch — including Canada and Australia — it was announced that members of the royal family would no longer lose their place in the succession for marrying a Catholic.


In addition, the new constitutional rules will give a female child the same rights as that of a male. Thus, if the first child of the recently married Duke and Duchess of Cambridge is a daughter, then her place in the royal succession will not be supplanted by a younger son.


Though the reforms will necessitate amendments to several acts, the most pressing is the 1701 Act of Settlement. Passed to block the Catholic heirs of King James II ascending to the throne, it prohibited a Catholic head of state and prohibited any member of the royal family from marrying a Catholic without forfeiting his right of succession... ...



The decision to alter the succession laws was reached unanimously at the meeting in Perth, Australia. Any changes will not be applied retrospectively. However, the ban on a Catholic becoming monarch remains. Equally, if the monarch chooses to convert to Catholicism, then he or she will lose the throne.



Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/u.k.-drops-anti-catholic-rule-of-succession1/#ixzz1ffy2WZSg

po boy
5th December 2011, 07:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUwVGVHEjf4

mick silver
5th December 2011, 08:52 AM
they need more control over the people of the world . when churchs are in control of people and goverments there never been a good out come . didnt churchs of the world killed more people then any other group in the name of god in the day gone by