Vatican names it's new telescope 'LUCIFER'

[Serpo]

what else

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The Vatican, the Jesuits and the University of Arizona, unveiled a new telescope centered upon Apache sacred ground, on Mount Graham, in Arizona. I’ve been to Indian sacred grounds and experienced a few situations to influence my belief. I’ve also talked to many who could share stories of the ancient laws which spiritually govern holy areas. Many people have not paid much attention to the ancient laws.
Placing unauthorized or unwelcomed ”whatever” on Indian sacred ground, like this telescope, or even taking any sort of sacred symbols, down to the rocks and dirt, without permission or a blessing to do so, could be a nightmare, a real life story for a Dan Brown novel and may add to the growing issues facing the Catholic Church. The church may not believe in this ancient law but it’s as old as the moon. There’s also so much history on this subject matter and individual experiences, if one does research. People can begin asking the Hawaiians as they have sacred areas on their land and there are thousands of karmic stories available.
I’m curious, why would the Vatican name the telescope Lucifer? To name it Lucifer and then place it on sacred Apache Indian ground? Yikes! And why is the Vatican interested and want to invest in something like this? Is it about the warning from the New Testament, book of Revelation and the end times? Would the Wormwood star be involved?
When reading…”And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.” (Revelation 8:10,11-King James Bible) I was interested in the Wormwood star. Interestingly, there’s a documentary about Chernobyl nuclear disaster and the prophecy. Could there be more to this story?

When I also read, “Jesuit Father George Coyne, director of the Vatican Observatory, indicated he could not find an authentic Apache who thought the mountain was sacred. Father Coyne stated that to convince him that he needed to see evidence of shrines and that he would not accept Apache oral history or statements by Apache-speaking Euro-Americans anthropologists.” I’m taking deep breaths as I finished reading this statement. Oh my..All I can say, dear Father, pray, pray and pray

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Lucifer

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/22407

(http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/22407)http://www.grandinite.com/2010/04/va...che-holy-land/ (http://www.grandinite.com/2010/04/vaticans-lucifer-telescope-on-apache-holy-land/)

http://asacredmemory.com/blog/?p=220

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http://seeker401.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/lucifer849.jpg

[midnight rambler]

Why the Hell not?? Everything else is 'in your face', including installing a British subject at 1600.

[mrnhtbr2232]

For every one story that comes out about Native Americans getting crapped on, there are thousands more that never make the press. It is one of our national shames. I've personally felt the energy of their holy sites at the Bighorn Medicine Wheel in Wyoming - it is undeniable. The fact indigenous people are considered a novelty and not a signpost is part of what is dooming mankind. The Jesuits are just doing what comes naturally.

[Buddha]

So it's actually LBTNIUWCAIFUFER?

[big country]

So it's actually LBTNIUWCAIFUFER?

That definately sounds like a more appropriate native american name to me...

[vacuum]

I'm wondering why the vatican needs a telescope in the first place?

[Buddha]

I'm wondering why the vatican needs a telescope in the first place?

Voyeurism fetish

[Joe King]

Why would they pick a name like that? ???

I'd actually be curious to hear Magnes' or any other Vatican supportors thoughts on this.

[Horn]

http://redicecreations.com/ul_img/10748LUCIFER.jpg

Whats the little Coat of Arms up there for, are they going to force the stars to tithe?

[Son-of-Liberty]

Why would they pick a name like that? ???

I'd actually be curious to hear Magnes' or any other Vatican supportors thoughts on this.

Cause the top leadership of the church worship satan. They just released a statemet calling for financial regulation that would basically create a one world governement.

[Joe King]

Cause the top leadership of the church worship satan. They just released a statemet calling for financial regulation that would basically create a one world governement.Yea, I get that point. I was moreso wondering how they justify it within the Church. ie the members.
....and what their take is on it. Which is why I'd love to hear Magnes' take on it. He seems to cheer-lead for them.

[Son-of-Liberty]

Seems to be a trend lately of these guys becoming more bold and out in the open. The acronym is quite a stretch to begin with.

[Horn]

There must be something floating around out there in space, and they liken it to Satan.

[Santa]

I suspect the Empire we currently have is the same Empire we've always had. Same old Baal shit.

[sirgonzo420]

I suspect the Empire we currently have is the same Empire we've always had. Same old Baal shit.

A way with words ye have!

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

Perhaps it's part of Operation Bluebeam.

[StreetsOfGold]

None of this should surprise anyone who realizes that the Roman Catholic church IS, WAS and always will be Satan's church. Mainstream media plays it up AS a Christian church. Most folks can't grasp this since they do not think there is a REAL Satan (there is) and a REAL Jesus Christ who is the Saviour of the world and offers the FREE GIFT of eternal life to all who will recieve him as thier Saviour.

Jesus Christ

OR

Satan

One is your master whether you recognize it or not.

Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters:
2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

[DMac]

From Part 2 of NASA And The Vatican's Infrared Telescope Called (LUCIFER) For Looking At NIBIRU/NEMESIS:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GCEl1-9LCw&feature=related


A German built,NASA and The Vatican owned and funded.Infrared Telescope called LUCIFER,for looking at NIBIRU/NEMESIS.
Part 2 5:35 min Where telescope is called LUCIFER


The Lucifer User Manual:
PDF (http://abell.as.arizona.edu/~lbtsci/Instruments/LUCIFER/Documents/LUCIFER_UM_1.1.pdf)

Information on the binocular telescope it is attached to:
Lucifer (http://abell.as.arizona.edu/~lbtsci/Instruments/LUCIFER/lucifer.html)

[Serpo]

I'm wondering why the vatican needs a telescope in the first place?

Looking for God ...they have been unsuccessful down here so far......haha

[Tumbleweed]

None of this should surprise anyone who realizes that the Roman Catholic church IS, WAS and always will be Satan's church. Mainstream media plays it up AS a Christian church.

That's bullshit StreetsOfGold. The catholic church has been infiltrated by Jews and masons but they are not catholics. They have infiltrated the church with the intention of destroying it. I'm catholic and I am a follower of Jesus Christ and so are all the catholics I know. Those satanists who have infiltrated the positions of power at the top are not the catholic church the followers of Jesus Christ are the catholic church . The Jews and masons need to be exposed and thrown out.

[Horn]

The Jews and masons need to be exposed and thrown out.

Or at least stop the terrorist money laundering that funds the "Catholics" at the top.

[Santa]

That's bullshit StreetsOfGold. The catholic church has been infiltrated by Jews and masons but they are not catholics. They have infiltrated the church with the intention of destroying it. I'm catholic and I am a follower of Jesus Christ and so are all the catholics I know. Those satanists who have infiltrated the positions of power at the top are not the catholic church the followers of Jesus Christ are the catholic church . The Jews and masons need to be exposed and thrown out. Really? Then what Church best fits the desciption, "Church of the World," and hasn't the Catholic Church been in that position since the beginning of the Holy Roman Empire without exception? And that being the case, wouldn't it stand to reason that the Church of the world would worship the god of the world, also known as Lucifer? And really, doesn't it give you pause that your chosen Church is openly naming its new toys after Lucifer?


Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters:
2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. What do you suppose "god of the world" means anyway?

[Serpo]

2 days after Gahdaffi was killed


Violence in God’s name has no place in today’s world – Pope

On October 27, 2011 · In News (http://www.vanguardngr.com/category/national-news/)


Assisi (Italy) – Pope Benedict, leading a global inter-religious meeting, acknowledged on Thursday “with great shame” that Christianity had used force in its long history but said violence in God’s name had no place in the world today.


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/10/violence-in-gods-name-has-no-place-in-todays-world-pope/

[Tumbleweed]

You're not paying attention. The church Jesus Christ started has been infiltrated by Jews, Masons and Satanists who pretend to be catholics and they are not. Real catholics follow the treachings of Jesus Christ the followers of Satan don't. I'm catholic and I'm doing my best to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.

[StreetsOfGold]

That's bullshit StreetsOfGold. The catholic church has been infiltrated by Jews and masons but they are not catholics. They have infiltrated the church with the intention of destroying it. I'm catholic and I am a follower of Jesus Christ and so are all the catholics I know. Those satanists who have infiltrated the positions of power at the top are not the catholic church the followers of Jesus Christ are the catholic church . The Jews and masons need to be exposed and thrown out.

No offence to you personally but I call it as it is. I suppose the so-called "inflitration" happened a Long time ago then? Like during the inquisition years when millions died at the hand of the papal bull. The jews and the masons inflitrated way back then... did they? cough cough.... yeaaaaa right

[Santa]

You're not paying attention. The church Jesus Christ started has been infiltrated by Jews, Masons and Satanists who pretend to be catholics and they are not. Real catholics follow the treachings of Jesus Christ the followers of Satan don't. I'm catholic and I'm doing my best to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Or perhaps you aren't paying attention. Read this again.

Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters:
2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. The Church that Jesus Christ started is not of this world, and as such cannot be usurped by jews, masons or satanists at all. Ever. Except to confuse you.

The god of the world is the god of materialism. The physical world. Whatever physical church epitomizes the pomp and circumstance, the bread and the blood of the physical world, is the church of which I speak, the church that Baal built.

The fight is not a material fight. It's a spiritual one. Two concurrent aspects of reality residing one above another. No man can serve two masters.

The Church and the Empire are one and the same, in that they command the material world. They are not of the Holy Spirit. Instead, they are corporeal entities, fictional automatons that want us to believe in and worship the god of the world by signing away our souls... for security, comfort and/or position.

They want us to believe we owe them our loyalty. They want us to believe we owe them our livelihood and our lives. They want us to be completely dependent upon their mercy and to enslave ourselves to them.

If that doesn't describe Lucifer's agenda, I don't know what does.

[Tumbleweed]

Jesus said the gates of hell would not prevail against his church and I'll take his word for it. Jews/masons/satanists have in the past worked to destroy the church and they still are. That doesn't mean they've been successful as you imply. Streets of Gold, Santa and Horn you always seem to attack the church and not the satanists who have infiltrated to destroy it. It looks to me like what you'd really like to do is destroy the church of Jesus Christ. Is Satan your God?

The people at the Fatima Challenge are working to expose the masons in the church and get rid of them. That is as it should be. John Salza answers the question of whether a mason can be a member of the church at this link http://www.fatimachallenge.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=80:fatima-challenge-crossfire&catid=34&Itemid=15

Any catholic who joins the masons is no longer catholic.

[Santa]

Jesus said the gates of hell would not prevail against his church and I'll take his word for it.Jesus is correct, of course.

You however... not a clue. You say you'll take His word, then turn right around and do the opposite. ::)

You deliberately confuse Jesus Christs Church with the wholly Roman Empire. That's just deceptive and wrong.

Just look what your current corporate CEO, Pope Rattinger has recently suggested. A new world bank. Haha... need I say more?

Perhaps he plans to watch over the new world bank with Lucifer, his powerful new eye on the Universe. >:D

The Vaticon. Just too big to fail... Lol

[Horn]

Streets of Gold, Santa and Horn you always seem to attack the church and not the satanists who have infiltrated to destroy it. I moved to Costa Rica to try and get away from handling Pyramid dollars, not that it helped much.

I don't think either are "pure" evil as Satan is supposed.

Though either, or both along with Zionists could turn to be, as I think they work together at times to cover their tracks.

[Tumbleweed]

Jesus is correct, of course.

You however... not a clue. You say you'll take His word, then turn right around and do the opposite. ::)

You deliberately confuse Jesus Christs Church with the wholly Roman Empire. That's just deceptive and wrong.

Just look what your current corporate CEO, Pope Rattinger has recently suggested. A new world bank. Haha... need I say more?

Perhaps he plans to watch over the new world bank with Lucifer, his powerful new eye on the Universe. >:D

The Vaticon. Just too big to fail... Lol

Santa I'm not confused and you're full of shit. I said Jews/masons/satanists have infiltrated the church. There are many accused of being freemasons at the highest levels.If their are they need to be identified and thrown out and that includes the pope, cardinals, bishops and priests. Just because their are some satanists pretending to be catholic doesn't mean the church is the whore of babylon as you imply and Streets of Gold imply.

Did you go to the link I posted and listen to John Salza? These catholics are working to expose the pretenders. A freemason is not and cannot be catholic. There are pretenders in the church that are there to destroy it. This has been going on for a long time.

[Book]

I moved to Costa Rica to try and get away from handling Pyramid dollars, not that it helped much.



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Costa Rica may well be Israel's best friend among the states of the world, unswerving in its friendship since 1948 and the only state to maintain its embassy in Jerusalem. A green and pleasant land, approximately twice the size of Israel, Costa Rica lies some ten degrees above the equator, between the Pacific Ocean and the Carribean Sea, rising from tropical beaches through rain forests to sometime-now dusted volcanic peaks. Located between Nicaragua and Panama, two turbulent dictatorships of the left and the right, Costa Rica is the great democracy of Central America and perhaps the greatest democracy in all Latin America. This year Costa Rica is celebrating one hundred years of free elections, 1889 - 1989.

Costa Ricans pride themselves on three things in particular: their democracy, their strong commitment to education, and their lack of a standing army. They could also pride themselves on their efforts to preserve their natural wonders and their tolerance of the minorities in the midst, including the Jewish minority. A Catholic country, officially as well as demographically, since the 1930's, several thousand Jews, almost half from the same two villages in Poland, have found a home in Costa Rica. They have built a prosperous aand closely knit Jewish community.

While one wave of Sephardic Jews lived in Costa Rica as Marranos in the 16th and 17th centuries and another as merchants in the 19th, the present Jewish community dates from before World War II and is primarily of Eastern European origin, nearly half from two villages in Poland. They were apparently from within the Hasidic ambit since they use the Hasidic ritual Nusach Sephard in their services. When they came to Costa Rica they became known as "Polacos," (perhaps for the same reason as in Mexico where the Jews chose that term because they feared to be identified as "Judeos" or "Israelitas"), a term which had some derogatory connotations. There is some anti-Semitism, though it is not serious.

Costa Rican non-Jews have as part of their national myth the notion that the original Spanish population in Costa Rica included many Sephardic Jews, which is one of the reasons they use to explain why Costa Rica is exceptional in Latin America. Those Sephardim were fleeing the Inquisition. They were Marranos and simply assimilated. Again, this partly explains the extensive nominal Catholicism in the country, according to the local Costa Ricans. They also say that people who have animal surnames betray their Marrano origin, for they did not want to take real "Catholic" names.

The common estimate of the size of the Jewish community is 2,000 souls, but many suggest that there are another 1,000 "hidden" Jews, including American retirees who have settled in Costa Rica. The principal institutions of the community are the Instituto Jaim Weizmann, a comprehensive school from kindergarten through secondary school, with 350 students. Just about all Jewish children attend primary school. Most stay on for secondary school, although a few are taken out and sent to the American school presumably to better prepare for entrance into American universities. Essentially none go to the Costa Rican public schools which teach Catholic religion. The school is organized on a very high level with a relatively intensive Jewish education program.

Like much of the diaspora, the community is nominally Orthodox by choice. Thus the school teaches Orthodox Judaism and is served by the Torah Education Department of the WZO. There are religious services every morning and until two or three years ago attendance at Shabbat services was compulsory.

Some estimate that there are 300 Israelis living permanently in Costa Rica. Other estimates are 40-50 Israeli families. These include some Israelis who have married Costa Rican Jewish girls and have settled there either to enter the family business or to establish businesses financed by the girl's family, as is customary in the country. There are other Israelis who simply wandered through and found this was a good place to make a living so they settled down. There are still others who came with the various Israeli projects in Costa Rica. Tahal has water projects, there are agricultural projects of various kinds, and others as well. So Israelis come through on a temporary basis all the time. Occasionally some stay. It is generally agreed that business is good for Jews, that they can make money doing almost anything, and that Costa Rica is a very comfortable place so it is quite attractive.

::)

[Santa]

...:o
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[sirgonzo420]

...:o
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What's that?


The Negro Ku Klux Klan?

[Santa]

What's that?


The Negro Ku Klux Klan?

Hell if I know, but I always wondered where those pointy hats came from. I thought the KKK thing was of a Masonic origin. This photo looks like the Virgin being led to the alter in some sort of ritual procession.
Maybe Tumbleweed can explain this?
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[Horn]

Costa Rican non-Jews have as part of their national myth the notion that the original Spanish population in Costa Rica included many Sephardic Jews, which is one of the reasons they use to explain why Costa Rica is exceptional in Latin America. Those Sephardim were fleeing the Inquisition. They were Marranos and simply assimilated. Again, this partly explains the extensive nominal Catholicism in the country, according to the local Costa Ricans. They also say that people who have animal surnames betray their Marrano origin, for they did not want to take real "Catholic" names.


::)

That post describes them covering eachother's tracks perfectly.

Where's the link?

[Horn]

Head of the "Christian - Evangilista" Block's Party in Costa Rica, while not all powerful 3rd party, still quite a force.

He made a volly for president and failed to the GOP's Masonic & Catholico's Party.

Luis Fishman Zonzinski


Costa Rica's center-right Social Christian Unity Party (La Unidad) moved to forge ahead toward the February 2010 elections Saturday, choosing the party's president, Luis Fishman, to be its new candidate just two weeks after a San José court sentenced its long-time leader and earlier contender, former President Rafael Angel Calderdón, to prison for corruption.

"I accept the responsibility knowing at the starting gun that they have put stones in the way for our party, while they've given others a helping push," Fishman said Saturday, in front of an assembly of the party he helped found.

The new campaign launch comes as La Unidad has been reeling from the landmark, Oct. 5 court ruling (http://www.ticotimes.net/topstoryarchive/2009_10/100909.htm) against Calderón – five years in prison and slightly more than a half-million-dollar fine. The sentence prompted the former president to revoke his presidential bid, leaving a question mark around the future of a party that once stood as a leading force in Costa Rican politics.

Fishman, 61, a former legislator, government minister, security chief and vice president – the latter post lasted from 2002 to 2006 under President Abel Pacheco – was widely seen as the most likely successor following the Calderón trial. He beat the party's only other contender to the candidacy, legislator Bienvenido Venegas, in a 111-38 vote, according to a Unidad press release.

Of Polish - Jewish descent, Fishman's candidacy marks an important step for the country at a time when the state's oficial support for the Catholic church has come into question, a s well as for a party with the word "Christian" in its name.

"I'm proud of being Jewish, and I know there are people who still haven't overcome prejudices, Fishman told the daily La Prensa Libre. "A Jew could perfectly be president of this country."

During Saturday's assembly, the party also named two vice presidential candidates to accompany Fishman on the campaign trail: engineer and construction entrepreneur Humberto Vargas and radio journalist Iris Zamora. (Costa Rica's executive branch makes room for two vice presidents, at least one of whom must be female.)

Separately, Ottón Solís, running on the left-leaning Citizen Action Party ticket, on Saturday also named his vice-presidential candidates, businesswoman Mónica Segnini and public health specialist Julio Humphreys.
http://www.ticotimes.net/dailyarchive/2009_10/1019091.cfm

Go ahead and interpret this commercial, Look at all the Bambino bearers!!! :)

I will Follow him, the Least bad!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEu7d53sTO0&feature=player_embedded

[wrs]

You're not paying attention. The church Jesus Christ started has been infiltrated by Jews, Masons and Satanists who pretend to be catholics and they are not. Real catholics follow the treachings of Jesus Christ the followers of Satan don't. I'm catholic and I'm doing my best to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Sounds like the old no true scotsman fallacy to me...........................

What exactly are the teachings of Jesus Christ? Did Paul write of them or did some other people who claimed to write for the disciples of Jesus write of them? Do we really have any teachings from a man named Jesus Christ? Are they only found in the four gospels approved by the Vatican?