David Icke vs Jesse Ventura

[iOWNme]

This is good....David Icke DESTROYS Jesse Ventura. Seems they had a little 'tussle' during an interview for 'Conspiracy Theory'.


Jesse Ventura - Pet Detective (A Must Read)

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/56029-jesse-ventura-pet-detective-a-must-read-


What a wonderful day I had in Cleveland, Ohio, which turned out to be a great success despite the best efforts of the organiser.

But in the days before the event I was pestered by someone called Michael Braverman, connected to the Jesse Ventura 'show' called Conspiracy Theory, on the totally inappropriately-titled truTV, in which Ventura or the voiceover can rarely go a few sentences without reminding everyone that he is a former Navy Seal. Wow, stands back in amazement - how incredible, a former Navy Seal. I feel fit to faint, I’m proper flushed.

Don't Navy Seals kill people, Ace Ventura, Pet Detective? You know, I think they do. Wow, respect, how fantastic. I don't kill people, I want to stop people being killed and so I will leave you to it, hero in your own mind.

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/November20116/2.jpg

Do I look like a real man? Oh please say I do. 'Former Navy Seal' Jesse Ventura, Pet Detective – he’s not a former ‘Navy Seal' is he? Really? Wow.


Even though I was ill and battling to be well enough for the Cleveland event, I agreed that Braverman - 'it will be good for your work and get it to a bigger audience' - could come along with Ace Ventura, Pet Detective, and ask me some questions about my work.

Alex Jones told me that he thought it would be a positive piece (and I have no doubt that Alex believed what he said to be true, so no problem with him whatsoever).

But how differently it turned out.

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/November20116/3.jpg

Size of my brain? Mmmmm


Around an hour before I was due to speak for nine to ten hours laying out everything in detail, I went down to where they had set up (set up being the term) their cameras.

I was surprised having heard Ventura go on and on and on in the room next door in a truly boring diatribe for anyone who would listen, that the said Braverman (another contradiction in terms) did not want me to go into the next room and to meet one of the most monumental egos and uninformed people it has been my 'experience' to encounter.

Instead, Braverman was far more concerned with getting me to sign the 'release form' before the ‘interview’ had even been shot.

I went down to their room and they started running their cameras when it was said that the great-man-in-his-own-mind was about to honour us with his presence. So, in he came. I stood up to greet him courteously and came face to face with one of the most arrogant and ignorant men I can ever remember looking in the eyes.

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/November20116/4.jpg


He barely acknowledged me and sat down to embark on a series of questions so unresearched and juvenile that I immediately concluded that I was not dealing with the brain of Minnesota, nor even the house in which he lives, unless he lives alone.

I had concluded the same thing months before while watching an interview he did on CNN in which Piers Morgan, hardly the intellect of the century, had Ventura for breakfast because of his cringe-making lack of grasp of his subject matter.

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/November20116/5.jpg


Ventura’s arrogant, unresearched premise was that I must be making it all up or doing it ‘for the money’ because he was 60 years old and had never seen a reptilian – and therefore they could not exist. After all, he was a former ‘Navy Seal’. Wow. Amazing.

The John Wayne wannabee and Schwarzenegger act-a-like thought he was going to take me apart, but soon realised that such a challenge takes a far greater intellect than he will ever possess.

He demanded that I ‘prove’ in a single answer that reptilians existed when he had never seen one (the criteria for all existence). I pointed out that this was a massive subject that needed a lot of explanation and that my last book was 355,000 words.

It was clear that he knew nothing about me and my life and work and I asked him if he ever had read any of my books. ‘No’, he said, as if it didn’t matter that he was insulting his audience by attempting, emphasis on attempting, to lay into someone without doing any research whatsoever before doing so.

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/November20116/6.jpg

No, ain’t got time to read.


The longer the ‘interview’ went on the more uncomfortable he became, his leg ‘trembling’ from side to side under the table, because he did not have the knowledge nor intellect to take it beyond reptilians can’t exist because ‘I have never seen them’. Did I mention that he was a former Navy Seal? Wow.

I said that I was about to talk for nine hours laying out all the information and connecting all the dots, and he would get his answers if he stayed and listened. ‘I have to listen for nine hours?’ said the brain of any room in which he is alone. I did sympathise. I doubt he has the attention span of nine minutes.

He had come to Cleveland on the train from Minnesota because ‘Jesse Ventura will never fly again’. I think the word is ‘I’ won’t fly again, but then egos are egos.

When he ran out of questions, not for the first time I suspect, and realised that the English ‘reptile guy’ was unimpressed by the former Navy Seal (wow!) and would take no shit from a ponytail who had never seen a mirror he didn’t worship, I went out and spoke for nine hours to a really great audience.

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/November20116/7.jpg


As for Ace Ventura, Pet Detective, who is ‘seeking truth’ as a front man for the pathetically low-level Conspiracy Theory, which is nothing more than a vehicle to massage his ego, he left the building with his crew at the very time that I was beginning to speak.

He could have stayed and had all his pathetic questions answered at length, but that is not why he came, and not why he fronts his conspiracy-for-dummies TV show. He is not interested in uncovering the truth, only in posturing his ego-from-hell. He is a former Navy Seal, you know.

So I challenge Mr Ego and the ridiculously entitled truTV to post the ‘interview’ on YouTube in full without editing and let the public see the real Ace Ventura, Pet Detective, and see his attempted ‘ambush’ and abuse of someone who has already uncovered far more about the world of the hidden than the former Navy Seal will do if he lives to be a thousand.

Come on, let’s have you, Mr Ego. Let’s see Jesse Ventura, Pet Detective, in all his inglory.

[StreetsOfGold]

Lol

[Cebu_4_2]

I haven't saw a human lizard either. Not sayin there aint such things...

Just sayin.

[Horn]

I still get no further evidence on the Reptilian thing after reading this article.

Was the stretchy guy the leader of the Fantastic 4?

Which one would be Alex Jones, and who/what girl are they going to come up with for #4?

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel//universe3zx/images/thumb/7/7d/Fantastic_FourHead.jpg/180px-Fantastic_FourHead.jpg

[letter_factory]

From what I understand, what david icke refers to are people who are dominated by the reptilian part of the human brain.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles14.htm


But on another note, it doesn't look like the conspiracy crowd will ever get anywhere. The main guys don't seem to get along...rense, alex jones, icke, and I guess now ventura.

[Horn]

From what I understand, what david icke refers to are people who are dominated by the reptilian part of the human brain.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles14.htm

That narrows it down to everyone.

[MAGNES]

I'll take Ventura any day, some of the interviews he did for his books were
great, he knows he is a target to be smeared and ridiculed, he didn't give
them an in, we have some excellent commentary from GSUS posters on
here on this.

Screw Icke, I did give the guy a break, his " reptiles " is allegory,
the ADL thought so and went after him, that was funny.

It their ever was a contest of truth, Ventura beats Icke any day, always did.

One of Ventura's last interviews, he lost a court battle.
Jesse Ventura's latest press conference (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?55732-Jesse-Ventura-s-latest-press-conference)

[letter_factory]

That narrows it down to everyone.


No, we all have a reptilian brain, but most people as they grow older become governed by other parts of the brain....



A much longer description of brain function by Mr Davidman can be found HERE (http://www.solbaram.org/articles/humind.html).
Reptilian Brain
Innermost in our brain is what is called the reptilian brain, its oldest and most primitive part. The reptilian brain appears to be largely unchanged by evolution and we share it with all other animals which have a backbone.

This reptilian brain controls body functions required for sustaining life such as breathing and body temperature. Reptiles are cold-blooded animals which are warmed by the daylight sun and conserve energy by restricting activities when it is dark. The biological clock (controller) for their activity-rest cycle is located in the eye itself {10}.

At this level of evolution, behavior relating to survival of the species, such as sexual behavior, is instinctive and responses are automatic. Territory is acquired by force and defended. Might is right.

(Might is right: The very basic foundation of the attitudes which motivate the actions of the Illuminati).


Mammalian Brain
Next to evolve from the reptilian brain was the mammalian brain. An enormous change took place as mammals evolved from reptiles, the mammalian brain containing organs {11, 12}:


For the automatic control of body functions such as digestion, the fluid balance, body temperature and blood pressure (autonomic nervous system, hypothalamus)
For filing new experiences as they happen and so creating a store of experience-based memories (hippocampus)
For experience-based recognition of danger and for responding to this according to past experience. And for some conscious feelings about events (amygdala)

To this extent the mammal is more consciously aware of itself in relation to the environment. Millions of neural pathways connect the hippocampal and amygdala structures to the reptilian brain and behavior is less rigidly controlled by instincts. It seems that feelings such as attachment, anger and fear have emerged with associated behavioral response patterns of care, fight or flight. {4}


Human Brain
And the mammalian brain became the human brain by adding the massive grey matter (neocortex) which envelopes most of the earlier brain and amounts to about 85 per cent of the human brain mass.

This massive addition consists mostly of two hemispheres which are covered by an outer layer and interconnected by a string of nerve fibers. {13}

The brain is actually divided into its ’hemispheres’ by a prominent groove. At the base of this groove lies the thick bundle of nerve fibers which enable these two halves of the brain to communicate with each other.

(The aim of the Illuminati-reptilians has been to disconnect as much as possible the functions of these two distinct parts of the brain so we can be manipulated through the right brain while only being conscious of the left. They plant thoughts, responses, and images through the right brain (the dream-state, the non-conscious, through symbolism and subliminal imagery) while imprisoning the human conscious level in the left brain - the world of can I touch it, smell it, taste it, see it, hear it, OK it must exist. This is why the "education" system, and "science" is designed to talk to the left brain. This way, the Illuminati can enter the human brain through the right side, undetected, and these images and subliminals then enter the left brain as conscious, this world, thoughts and reactions, which people take to be their own.


Not saying i believe this stuff, but just what i've read.

[letter_factory]

That narrows it down to everyone.


No, we all have a reptilian brain, but most people as they grow older become governed by other parts of the brain....



A much longer description of brain function by Mr Davidman can be found HERE (http://www.solbaram.org/articles/humind.html).
Reptilian Brain
Innermost in our brain is what is called the reptilian brain, its oldest and most primitive part. The reptilian brain appears to be largely unchanged by evolution and we share it with all other animals which have a backbone.

This reptilian brain controls body functions required for sustaining life such as breathing and body temperature. Reptiles are cold-blooded animals which are warmed by the daylight sun and conserve energy by restricting activities when it is dark. The biological clock (controller) for their activity-rest cycle is located in the eye itself {10}.

At this level of evolution, behavior relating to survival of the species, such as sexual behavior, is instinctive and responses are automatic. Territory is acquired by force and defended. Might is right.

(Might is right: The very basic foundation of the attitudes which motivate the actions of the Illuminati).


Mammalian Brain
Next to evolve from the reptilian brain was the mammalian brain. An enormous change took place as mammals evolved from reptiles, the mammalian brain containing organs {11, 12}:


For the automatic control of body functions such as digestion, the fluid balance, body temperature and blood pressure (autonomic nervous system, hypothalamus)
For filing new experiences as they happen and so creating a store of experience-based memories (hippocampus)
For experience-based recognition of danger and for responding to this according to past experience. And for some conscious feelings about events (amygdala)

To this extent the mammal is more consciously aware of itself in relation to the environment. Millions of neural pathways connect the hippocampal and amygdala structures to the reptilian brain and behavior is less rigidly controlled by instincts. It seems that feelings such as attachment, anger and fear have emerged with associated behavioral response patterns of care, fight or flight. {4}


Human Brain
And the mammalian brain became the human brain by adding the massive grey matter (neocortex) which envelopes most of the earlier brain and amounts to about 85 per cent of the human brain mass.

This massive addition consists mostly of two hemispheres which are covered by an outer layer and interconnected by a string of nerve fibers. {13}

The brain is actually divided into its ’hemispheres’ by a prominent groove. At the base of this groove lies the thick bundle of nerve fibers which enable these two halves of the brain to communicate with each other.

(The aim of the Illuminati-reptilians has been to disconnect as much as possible the functions of these two distinct parts of the brain so we can be manipulated through the right brain while only being conscious of the left. They plant thoughts, responses, and images through the right brain (the dream-state, the non-conscious, through symbolism and subliminal imagery) while imprisoning the human conscious level in the left brain - the world of can I touch it, smell it, taste it, see it, hear it, OK it must exist. This is why the "education" system, and "science" is designed to talk to the left brain. This way, the Illuminati can enter the human brain through the right side, undetected, and these images and subliminals then enter the left brain as conscious, this world, thoughts and reactions, which people take to be their own.


Not saying i believe this stuff, but just what i've read.

[hoarder]

I'm having a hard time deciding which of these egomaniacs I like least...Drama Queen Ventura or "Shape Shifting Reptillians" Icke. I think Icke does the most damage.
Icke has written some excellent articles but I can't post them anywhere without being associated with the "Shape Shifting Reptillians" theory, which BTW he has never proven.

[Book]

Ventura ever once say anything about the jews?

::)

[hoarder]

Ventura ever once say anything about the jews?

::)If he did, they would no longer permit him to make a fool of himself on national teevee.

The ideal messenger of truth is someone who cannot be associated with buffoonery or the fringe element. Niether of these guys fits the bill.

[Horn]

No, we all have a reptilian brain, but most people as they grow older become governed by other parts of the brain....


So children are reptilians, I ain't buyin that, as really old people are just as babies.

Take Ponce for example, he's as close to original sin as can be realized...;D

[MAGNES]

Ventura ever once say anything about the jews?

::)

That's not his job, he is doing his job the smart way, still banned.



If he did, they would no longer permit him to make a fool of himself on national teevee.

The ideal messenger of truth is someone who cannot be associated with buffoonery or the fringe element. Niether of these guys fits the bill.

Hoarder, you ever seen his interviews posted on here,
he has never made a fool of himself, he was also governor
of a State with a varied following, this is the kind of smear
job the MSM attempts on him but he destroys them.

His 63 Documents book is worth buying as well, for the archive of sourced info,
even for people on this forum.

[chad]

i put daivid icke right up with steve quayle in terms of crazytown.

[StreetsOfGold]

[QUOTE=letter_factory;482691]No, we all have a reptilian brain, but most people as they grow older become governed by other parts of the brain....[QUOTE]

The whole reptilian thing is based on the premise that we "EVOLVED" Since we did NOT "evolve" the entire thing can be thrown out as INvalid. See how easy life is to DISCERN when you just believe what God said

Hebrews 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

[hoarder]

Hoarder, you ever seen his interviews posted on here,
he has never made a fool of himself, he was also governor
of a State with a varied following, this is the kind of smear
job the MSM attempts on him but he destroys them.

His 63 Documents book is worth buying as well, for the archive of sourced info,
even for people on this forum.My post was about association and how it discredits messengers. I kinda like Jesse and agree with much of what he says, but invariably his message won't get much traction because of his career of buffoonery drama wrestling.

[MAGNES]

My post was about association and how it discredits messengers. I kinda like Jesse and agree with much of what he says, but invariably his message won't get much traction because of his career of buffoonery drama wrestling.

The more people that see him speak the better.

The baffoon was a governor and does a good job speaking, asking questions.

He makes it to the MSM , we should be spreading the word,
millions see him, they also see the vampires at work.
Awesome Ventura interview on the View: Ron Paul, TSA, .gov ops, FEMA, Anti-FED (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?47020-Awesome-Ventura-interview-on-the-View-Ron-Paul-TSA-.gov-ops-FEMA-Anti-FED)

[keehah]

Alex explains the fractious:

Alex Jones 2011-11-15 Tuesday Part 3/9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIcY49A-Ekg

[midnight rambler]

This reptilian brain controls body functions required for sustaining life such as breathing and body temperature. Reptiles are cold-blooded animals which are warmed by the daylight sun and conserve energy by restricting activities when it is dark. The biological clock (controller) for their activity-rest cycle is located in the eye itself Fascinating.

http://www.masonicjewelryblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/apron_eye.jpg



1570

[Horn]

Well rambler, you're making more of a marketing connection then Icke ever has.

Salutations,



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2azV3TFwD4U&feature=related

[Horn]

and who/what girl are they going to come up with for #4?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vMQfeVSYbqk/TE8rZm_b5MI/AAAAAAAABQQ/s9dkCB2NCTw/s1600/truther+girl+sonia+2.jpg

[Horn]

Alex explains the fractious:

Alex Jones 2011-11-15 Tuesday Part 3/9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIcY49A-Ekg

Good stuff thanks, quick question.

Why does Alex use a Star of David to hold his microphone?

[Shami-Amourae]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98CLuCfzqEM

[iOWNme]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98CLuCfzqEM



Thanks Shami, i meant to post this.......


EDIT: - That TV show is HORRIBLE. WOW. Im speechless. If 90210 and WWF had sex and a child TV show, it would be this.