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General of Darkness
18th November 2011, 07:10 AM
Come the fuck on.

EU bans claim that water can prevent dehydration

Brussels bureaucrats were ridiculed yesterday after banning drink manufacturers from claiming that water can prevent dehydration.


http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02058/drinking_2058912c.jpg NHS health guidelines state clearly that drinking water helps avoid dehydration, and that Britons should drink at least 1.2 litres per day Photo: ALAMY






By Victoria Ward and Nick Collins

6:20AM GMT 18 Nov 2011


EU officials concluded that, following a three-year investigation, there was no evidence to prove the previously undisputed fact.

Producers of bottled water are now forbidden by law from making the claim and will face a two-year jail sentence if they defy the edict, which comes into force in the UK next month.

Last night, critics claimed the EU was at odds with both science and common sense. Conservative MEP Roger Helmer said: “This is stupidity writ large.



“The euro is burning, the EU is falling apart and yet here they are: highly-paid, highly-pensioned officials worrying about the obvious qualities of water and trying to deny us the right to say what is patently true.



“If ever there were an episode which demonstrates the folly of the great European project then this is it.”

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NHS health guidelines state clearly that drinking water helps avoid dehydration, and that Britons should drink at least 1.2 litres per day.


The Department for Health disputed the wisdom of the new law. A spokesman said: “Of course water hydrates. While we support the EU in preventing false claims about products, we need to exercise common sense as far as possible."


German professors Dr Andreas Hahn and Dr Moritz Hagenmeyer, who advise food manufacturers on how to advertise their products, asked the European



Commission if the claim could be made on labels.
They compiled what they assumed was an uncontroversial statement in order to test new laws which allow products to claim they can reduce the risk of disease, subject to EU approval.


They applied for the right to state that “regular consumption of significant amounts of water can reduce the risk of development of dehydration” as well as preventing a decrease in performance.


However, last February, the European Food Standards Authority (EFSA) refused to approve the statement.


A meeting of 21 scientists in Parma, Italy, concluded that reduced water content in the body was a symptom of dehydration and not something that drinking water could subsequently control.


Now the EFSA verdict has been turned into an EU directive which was issued on Wednesday.


Ukip MEP Paul Nuttall said the ruling made the “bendy banana law” look “positively sane”.


He said: “I had to read this four or five times before I believed it. It is a perfect example of what Brussels does best. Spend three years, with 20 separate pieces of correspondence before summoning 21 professors to Parma where they decide with great solemnity that drinking water cannot be sold as a way to combat dehydration.


“Then they make this judgment law and make it clear that if anybody dares sell water claiming that it is effective against dehydration they could get into serious legal bother.


EU regulations, which aim to uphold food standards across member states, are frequently criticised.


Rules banning bent bananas and curved cucumbers were scrapped in 2008 after causing international ridicule.


Prof Hahn, from the Institute for Food Science and Human Nutrition at Hanover Leibniz University, said the European Commission had made another mistake with its latest ruling.


“What is our reaction to the outcome? Let us put it this way: We are neither surprised nor delighted.


“The European Commission is wrong; it should have authorised the claim. That should be more than clear to anyone who has consumed water in the past, and who has not? We fear there is something wrong in the state of Europe.”


Prof Brian Ratcliffe, spokesman for the Nutrition Society, said dehydration was usually caused by a clinical condition and that one could remain adequately hydrated without drinking water.


He said: “The EU is saying that this does not reduce the risk of dehydration and that is correct.


“This claim is trying to imply that there is something special about bottled water which is not a reasonable claim.”


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8897662/EU-bans-claim-that-water-can-prevent-dehydration.html

MNeagle
18th November 2011, 07:20 AM
http://ts2.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1291343568265&id=0730bdc36a8b9c1ac7857a6844876bca

Son-of-Liberty
18th November 2011, 07:25 AM
Brawndo it's what plants crave!

General of Darkness
18th November 2011, 07:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVPcr4p121A


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vw2CrY9Igs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbxq0IDqD04

Glass
18th November 2011, 08:45 AM
first thing I thought of as well. It's got electrolytes.

Heimdhal
18th November 2011, 08:48 AM
because its what plants crave!

DMac
18th November 2011, 08:55 AM
because its what plants crave!

You mean like from the toilet?

midnight rambler
18th November 2011, 09:11 AM
Dehydration?? We have a pill for that!

Got side effects from our anti-dehydration pill?? We have a pill for that too!

letter_factory
18th November 2011, 09:17 AM
dehydration is a medical term, so if you're curing a medical disease with water, you're practicing medicine, and as we all know, medicines cost 4000x the cost. So if you're using water to cure dehydration, that water will cost you about 4000$/gallon and you need a doctor to write a prescription. gotta love capitalism.

Ponce
18th November 2011, 09:29 AM
And don't forget that oxygen does not keep you alive......that's an old wifes tale.

Fist post here (and snow) of the day........good morning to one and all.

osoab
18th November 2011, 09:52 AM
Did they say anything about beer?

mamboni
18th November 2011, 10:21 AM
Well the joke is on all of us now isn't it. We the People are the stupidest bipeds in the history of mankind. These fuckers in Brussels [and Washington] pay themselves handsomely with benefits and pensions (all on our tab), promote eachother, create offices and committees for eachother, all to craft and pass one ridiculous, useless, confiscatory or oppressive law after another; all this with utter contempt for the will of the people. And what do we do? We sit here and debate the validity of these fucking moronic rapacious dictatorial laws. We are morons with no self-respect for allowing these self-appointed dictators to treat us like mushrooms. If you hired a contractor to paint your house, and he spent an entire year mixing paints with pigments, at great expense to you, studying which color paint would be most esthetically pleasing [to him, not you!], would you pay this painter and retain his 'services?' No! You would throw him and his sundry paints, pigments and paraphenalia out of your house! But, if you are a citizen of the EU [or the USA], not only would you pay this painter for dawdling, you'd end up with a piss poor paint job or no painting at all.

The soil surrounding the tree of liberty is extremely parched. And bottled water just ain't going to suffice to replenish it, if you catch my meaning.

mick silver
18th November 2011, 10:24 AM
thanks mamboni , in other words were all fucked

General of Darkness
18th November 2011, 10:31 AM
thanks mamboni , in other words were all fucked

Not all.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwx2ce_AyOE

StreetsOfGold
18th November 2011, 10:57 AM
The EU members that voted on this should be made to go without water and PROVE IT!

Ponce
18th November 2011, 11:30 AM
The world has been doing just fine for hundred of years.......and now with all this rules we are fuck........if is working ok then don't try to fix it.

A few years ago I took my pick up to this super mechanic and asked him to check out everything.....he then asked me "Is everything working ok?" and said "Yes" and he then said......"No need to check anything out".

midnight rambler
18th November 2011, 11:32 AM
The EU members that voted on this should be made to go without water and PROVE IT!

Yeah, lock 'em up without a source of water and let 'em extract their hydration needs from the air.

madfranks
18th November 2011, 12:14 PM
dehydration is a medical term, so if you're curing a medical disease with water, you're practicing medicine, and as we all know, medicines cost 4000x the cost. So if you're using water to cure dehydration, that water will cost you about 4000$/gallon and you need a doctor to write a prescription. gotta love capitalism.

I would like to point out that the fictitious example you just gave is not really an example of capitalism, but fascism. Without protectionist legislation creating things like "medical licenses", anyone could undercut the guy selling water at $4000/gallon. Only when the gov't and business get in bed and create regulations allowing only them to offer such and such a service under threat and penalty of law, then they charge whatever they want and rip the people off.

mamboni
18th November 2011, 12:17 PM
Yeah, lock 'em up without a source of water and let 'em extract their hydration needs from the air.

Yes let them drink eachother's urine, lest no one become more hydrated than another and perfect socialist equalitarianism is preserved.

keehah
18th November 2011, 12:26 PM
http://ts2.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1291343568265&id=0730bdc36a8b9c1ac7857a6844876bca

Thanks GofD, I had searched, but not found that Idiocracy FDA food pyramid youtube clip.

JohnQPublic
18th November 2011, 01:56 PM
And don't forget that oxygen does not keep you alive......that's an old wifes tale.

...

In fact oxygen, like CO2 (and soon water the worst greenhouse compound) should be listed as a pollutant. Why, it is scientifically undisputed that oxygen is an essential ingredient for fires, and fires kill people. Occupy Brussles. WE NEED BIGGER GOVERNMENT TO PROTECT US.

joboo
18th November 2011, 07:15 PM
But, if you are a citizen of the EU [or the USA], not only would you pay this painter for dawdling, you'd end up with a piss poor paint job or no painting at all.



More like the painter would burn your house down, nullify your insurance policy in the process, and you would have to pay him extra as he lost some paint in the fire.

keehah
19th November 2011, 06:28 PM
Another Idiocracy clip. Here is what happens in future UN land to the man who said water has what beings crave:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YjzoqW58H44#t=91s

vacuum
19th November 2011, 07:38 PM
I bet Gatorade can officially stop dehydration. Too bad water can't be trademarked...

BrewTech
20th November 2011, 08:23 AM
The world has been doing just fine for hundred of years.......and now with all this rules we are fuck........if is working ok then don't try to fix it.

A few years ago I took my pick up to this super mechanic and asked him to check out everything.....he then asked me "Is everything working ok?" and said "Yes" and he then said......"No need to check anything out".

Your mechanic has the right idea. Unfortunately, the central planners' philosophy is "If it ain't broke, fix it til it is!"

gunDriller
20th November 2011, 08:30 AM
well, the EU might have a point.

for example, if you have already drunk a liter of water, more water won't prevent de-hydration.

perhaps they should add water-drinking lessons to the EU educational curriculum.

sirgonzo420
20th November 2011, 10:50 AM
Water kills, guys!

osoab
20th November 2011, 04:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw

Dogman
20th November 2011, 04:31 PM
Sometimes , I say to myself that I have nearly seen it all! Until some shit proves me wrong!

MNeagle
20th November 2011, 07:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw

I call total set-up & b.s. on this, along w/ a heavy heavy dose of selective editing. I would think (hope) greater than 75% of people asked: "What is it?" And instead of giving an answer, she gave examples of "evil" industries that use it 'all the time', etc.

Awoke
21st November 2011, 06:41 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!

(at the OP)

keehah
23rd November 2011, 12:08 PM
Federal agents Shut down Water Purification Product (http://www.mercurynews.com/saratoga/ci_19385037)
mercurynews.com 11/14/11

Wallace says federal and state agents have effectively put him out of business, because authorities won't clear the way for him to buy or sell the iodine he needs for his purification bottles. He has been rejected for a state permit by the Department of Justice and is scheduled to appeal his case before an administrative judge in Sacramento next month.

Meanwhile, the exasperated Stanford University-educated engineer and his 85-year-old girlfriend said the government -- in its zeal to clamp down on meth labs -- has instead stopped hikers, flood victims and others from protecting themselves against a bad case of the runs...

Wallace and his partner, Marjorie Ottenberg, came up with the idea about 30 years ago as they planned to scale the Popocatépetl volcano in Mexico.

Hoping to avoid Montezuma's revenge, Ottenberg, a chemist by trade, read an article in Backpacker magazine about two doctors who had been infected with Giardia and recommended treating water with crystalline iodine.

"We knew the water was questionable down there, so we stole their idea," Wallace said with an unapologetic grin.

So in 1983, the couple began selling their brown bottles with a small sprinkling of iodine crystals -- about a quarter of an ounce -- in the bottom.

Polar Pure was an instant, if modest, hit among backpackers and world travelers. It was effective, light and never expired, unlike many other products. One bottle can disinfect about 2,000 quarts of water.

But about four years ago, the DEA began to look closely at the product, even citing it in a position paper, and suggested that it was being used by cranksters as well as campers.

In 2007, federal regulations were passed strictly regulating the chemical. Wallace said the new rules mandated that he had to pay a $1,200 regulatory fee, get federal and state permits, keep track of exactly who was buying his product and report anyone suspicious.

Wallace ignored the fee. And if they wanted a list of his customers, he fumed, all they would get would be camping equipment store managers and wholesalers.

There have been two major spikes in demand for Polar Pure: One in 1999 on the eve of Y2K fears and another soon after the Japanese tsunami, when people were afraid that a radiation cloud would float across the Pacific and poison water. Wallace said he sold close to 24,000 bottles in his last few months of business at $6.50 a pop.

Special Agent Richard Camps, a San Jose-based state narcotics task force commander, said he received reports of suspicious buyers.

"Weird-looking people, 'Beavis and Butt-Head'-types, were coming into camping stores and buying everything they had on the shelves," Camps said. "Then they would take off into the mountains and try to cook meth with it." The DEA reported agents found Polar Pure at a meth lab they dismantled in Tennessee two years ago.