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po boy
23rd November 2011, 08:11 AM
I wonder if they turn to drugs because they are surrounded by stupidity?LOL


http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/161919/new-study-children-with-high-iqs-are-more-likely-to-use-drugs-as-adults/
We all know a highly-functional pothead, who, despite smoking weed upwards of three times each day is absolutely killing life. He or she probably brings home more than us, has a cooler job—possibly in the arts—tells better jokes at parties and has deep conversations about true happiness in which she quotes Jung, Joseph Campbell and Jesus all without looking anything up on her iPhone. While most of us are barely able to bake cupcakes from a box after smoking, the functional stoner can take four hits from a vaporizer and proceed to pay her bills, shop online, and discuss Christmas plans with her mother.

It’s infuriating, but there’s a totally logical reason why she can do that and you can’t. That reason—from what I can gather—is that your high friend is objectively a whole lot smarter than you.

At least that’s what I’m choosing to gather from a new study based on 8,000 British adults who were tracked for three decades by two researchers, James White and G. David Batty from Cardiff University and University College London. According to L.A. Times, White and Batty gave IQ tests to the sample at age 5 and/ or 10, then interviewed them about drug use at ages 16 and 30.

Using that data, White and Batty divided the people into three groups based on their IQ scores (low, medium and high). They found that those in the top IQ group at age 5 were more likely than those in the bottom IQ group to have ever used marijuana by the time they were 16. At age 30, women with high IQ scores were more than twice as likely as low-IQ women to have used marijuana or cocaine in the prior year, while men with high IQs were 46% more likely to have used amphetamines and 65% more likely to have used ecstasy than their low-IQ counterparts.

According to the Times, “The statistical analysis controlled for certain other factors that could have influenced drug use, such as psychological stress and socioeconomic status.” The researchers also found that IQ and drug-use has a stronger link in women than men.

In conclusion, the researchers noted previous studies which suggest that individuals with high IQ’s are generally more open to new experiences and more likely to seek stimulation than their slightly duller counterparts. And, “Two other traits linked with childhood intelligence — boredom and a tendency to be teased by one’s peers — could also fuel an interest in ‘using drugs as an avoidant coping strategy.’”

Of course, these results are easy to misinterpret, especially if you’re stoned, and especially-especially if you’re stoned and not in possession of an above average IQ.

So to be clear: if you’ve used marijuana or cocaine in the last 12 months, it’s not necessarily an indication that you are wildly intelligent. In fact, it may very well be an indication that you’re a moron. But, if you had a high IQ when you were age 5 or 10, that may very well be in indication that life was either too hard or too boring for you, which might make you more likely to experiment with drugs as a teenager and adult.

sirgonzo420
23rd November 2011, 08:28 AM
hahahaha


I reckon it's true in my case!


;D

po boy
23rd November 2011, 08:31 AM
My ole man asked why I drank my reply was because I see what is coming.LOL

Buddha
23rd November 2011, 09:54 AM
Yep......

I've always had a theory that the smarter a person is, the more depressed they are.

Bigjon
23rd November 2011, 09:57 AM
The message is drug sales are down, please step up and volunteer to become a muddleheaded foggy minded non-thinker, by taking mind numbing drugs.

And some are stupid enough to believe this message.

Buddha
23rd November 2011, 10:01 AM
Oh, and you're a fucking idiot if you can't smoke some weed and bake cupcakes from a box. It has nothing to do with the herb.

mrnhtbr2232
23rd November 2011, 10:17 AM
Yep......

I've always had a theory that the smarter a person is, the more depressed they are.

Because they are more aware of just how screwed up everything is relative to most people who bury their heads in denial pretending everything's Ok. This is one of the basic maxims of life, particularly in contemporary humanity.

Old Herb Lady
23rd November 2011, 11:00 AM
My ole man asked why I drank my reply was because I see what is coming.LOL

Does the drinking really help ? Does anything really help ? You still end up sober in the end & have to face it anyways.
Can't stay drunk 24/7. Once u know the truth nothing numbs it, i don't care what you're drinking.
I'm gonna try a drink & let u know. i'll do a drink post later today if I can get me some drink.

sirgonzo420
23rd November 2011, 11:03 AM
Yep......

I've always had a theory that the smarter a person is, the more depressed they are.

Yep....





Ecclesiastes 1:18
For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

sirgonzo420
23rd November 2011, 11:04 AM
The message is drug sales are down, please step up and volunteer to become a muddleheaded foggy minded non-thinker, by taking mind numbing drugs.

And some are stupid enough to believe this message.

... and others can handle their drugs.

:)

midnight rambler
23rd November 2011, 11:36 AM
Who needs drugs when there's Nyquil?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ufH_pE2a-s

letter_factory
23rd November 2011, 11:46 AM
IQ is way over-rated. What's more important is emotional intelligence (aka inner strength).

Santa
23rd November 2011, 11:56 AM
Don't make me pull the trigger, bitches...

po boy
23rd November 2011, 12:07 PM
Does the drinking really help ? Does anything really help ? You still end up sober in the end & have to face it anyways.
Can't stay drunk 24/7. Once u know the truth nothing numbs it, i don't care what you're drinking.
I'm gonna try a drink & let u know. i'll do a drink post later today if I can get me some drink.


Around the ole man it does especially if talking politics which when visiting always comes up. I know I should avoid those conversations but bs talk about things of no consequence to me seems worthless.

As a kid in school I was the one staring out the window.

po boy
23rd November 2011, 12:11 PM
The message is drug sales are down, please step up and volunteer to become a muddleheaded foggy minded non-thinker, by taking mind numbing drugs.

And some are stupid enough to believe this message.


Funny to me it read quick your kids to bright and might smoke pot put that brainiac on some ritilin.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
23rd November 2011, 12:40 PM
Yep......

I've always had a theory that the smarter a person is, the more depressed they are.


"As intelligence goes up, happiness goes down. See, I made a graph. I make lots of graphs."

http://flowingdata.com/wp-content/uploads/yapb_cache/lisa_simpson_graph.3d8grz11ynokc4cksggw4gcwc.2xne1 totli0w8s8k0o44cs0wc.th.png

TheNocturnalEgyptian
23rd November 2011, 12:43 PM
Drugs are like fasting. In the hands of a witless individual, you will do massive amounts of harm to your body. In the hands of a learned individual who has undertaken the proper precautions and preparations, they can improve your field of view and offer some otherwise unavailable insights.


They are not inherently good or evil. They merely accentuate what is already there - intelligence or a lack of it. I have read over 5GB of text in "Experience Reports" alone. I have read thousands upon thousands of pages on the matter, and this is the conclusion I have reached.


That being said, the above should be taken with a grain of salt. To get the most out of drugs, you have to be completely comfortable with being sober indefinitely. Those who are not usually meet negative consequences eventually.

Furthermore, I am not talking about synthetic abominations here. I am talking about those substances which exist in nature and have a multi-generational history of use.

Bigjon
23rd November 2011, 12:57 PM
Funny to me it read quick your kids to bright and might smoke pot put that brainiac on some ritilin.

Quoted for truth, "to" vs "too"

The preposition to refers to a place, direction, or position. To is also used before the verb in an infinitive. The adverb too means "also" or "excessively." Two refers to the number 2.
http://grammar.about.com/od/words/a/togloss.htm

Neuro
23rd November 2011, 01:01 PM
IQ is way over-rated. What's more important is emotional intelligence (aka inner strength).

No doubt whatsoever that the latter is what is rewarded in todays society. And that may be the very reason why todays society is collapsing. Charming sociopaths are leading!

TheNocturnalEgyptian
23rd November 2011, 01:15 PM
I'll give that one to you, letter_factory. Without fortitude, inner strength, and resistance to emotional manipulation, ESPECIALLY FEAR, high intelligence is basically useless.


Part of being intelligent is a willingness to explore the unbeaten path, whether physically or intellectually. Intelligence is not the right word for someone who can merely regurgitate the facts of others. The truly intelligent person is an explorer - half of this characteristic is the willingness, the bravery, to step out into the unknown. The other half is an ability to somehow make sense (or otherwise be productive) with what you find there.


Without bravery, intelligence is a destructive thing.

Old Herb Lady
23rd November 2011, 01:17 PM
IQ is way over-rated. What's more important is emotional intelligence (aka inner strength).

Letter_factory I think you're confusing EI (emotional intelligence) with coping skills. It's good to do work on oneself and sharpen your EI, but what is really important
is strengthening & learning valuable coping skills.
There are good stresses & bad stresses (bad like all this SHTF stuff, death of loved ones, illnesses,job loss, money etc,
then all the good stresses like new babies, wedding, new job, falling in love, new home etc)

You can have a high emotional IQ but still have weak coping skills.
When somebody works on themselves & hones their coping skills then they don't tend to have the need for a crutch like drinking, boozing, drugs, etc.

The strongest of people with high EQ's and/or coping skills don't just have it & be done with it, they have to work very hard to acquire it first and then work very hard to continue to keep it.

Coping skills are not taught in schools and never have been. That is why so many kids turn to drugs . They cannot process the stress due to no knowledge of coping techniques (look at what they're learning from home) and use the stressful time as a learning experience & have a positive outcome.

Plus, the extreme absence nowadays of any spirituality doesn't help , either, but that's just my opinion about that.

The depravity in this world today is not just from the greed and the evilness being flooded upon the people, it is the lack of coping skills to deal with it and we all have our limits. Some people get to a certain age & think that they have everything & can handle anything because they've got all their sheyit together up in their head but alas.......then there's always, always something that can weaken them (good stress or bad stress).

I see it ALLL the time in people who you would never ever expect to be anything but STRONG.
We are in tough, rough times.

I need a drink.

StreetsOfGold
23rd November 2011, 01:35 PM
Yep......

I've always had a theory that the smarter a person is, the more depressed they are.

Your "theory" is Biblically true

Ecclesiastes 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

keehah
23rd November 2011, 02:22 PM
I've always had a theory that the smarter a person is, the more depressed they are.
That theory can explain 94% fluoride (Prozac) being sold as an antidepressant.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
23rd November 2011, 07:02 PM
I just want to remind everyone that the nutmeg used in your pumpkin pie is a hallucinogenic compound. It is not as easy to be "drug free" as some people believe. Life is not as cut and dry as we like to make it.

Shami-Amourae
23rd November 2011, 07:06 PM
I used to take $25 of drugs a day, then I switched to naturopathy and take zero drugs now. In my view, if you can get off all drugs, you're smart.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
23rd November 2011, 07:14 PM
I was also able to completely eliminate my dependency on pharmacopoeia, in this case an adrenaline based inhaler, through natural means. An ayurvedic technique called "Oil Pulling" completely cured my asthma.

Since then, my rule has been that I need to be "Too weak to fight you off" in order to get me into a hospital or take anything synthetic.


I still see no problem with, for example Ayahuasca or psilocybin, if done correctly, with the correct intentions, in the correct settings. Not done as a recreational endeavor, definitely not done as a mental escape, but done from a profound desire to temporarily push your mind past the physical boundaries that we take for granted, I simply do not see the harm. Biologically there is not a long-term danger, so really the only danger is what you may do to yourself through fear or a lack of understanding. So again, it all comes back to mastery over fear and an ability to confront difficult realities.

And just as I would not recommend fasting to everyone, I would not recommend the above to everyone. But I have a hard time believing that it is appropriate for no one.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
23rd November 2011, 07:24 PM
Famous Quote: "You can tell a lot about a society by looking at which drugs it condones. In our society, there are only two acceptable drugs: alcohol and caffeine. Caffeine, the stimulant, to force the body/mind from monday to friday, no matter how much they may protest, and alcohol, from friday to monday to keep one blind to the prison we all live in."

Paraphrased as I cannot find the exact quote at the moment

Book
23rd November 2011, 07:35 PM
https://dcunnane.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/exams2.jpg

Yeah...sucking on a bong just before the exam makes you a fucking genius.

::) ask anyone in their ninth year of college...lol.

Ponce
23rd November 2011, 07:39 PM
Book? you are lucky that you werent interested in drugs when you were a kid hahahahahahahahah.

joboo
23rd November 2011, 07:46 PM
Drugs don't make you stupid unless you go overboard.. Same as eating fast food doesn't make you obese unless you eat it all the time.

Altered states of consciousness are fucking incredible learning tools. The best tools available imo. If you want to really get outside the box, you have to actually do it.

po boy
23rd November 2011, 07:47 PM
Yeah...sucking on a bong just before the exam makes you a fucking genius.

::) ask anyone in their ninth year of college...lol.

You don't go to school to increase your IQ, more for indoctrination to be an obedient worker.

joboo
23rd November 2011, 07:49 PM
Yeah...sucking on a bong just before the exam makes you a fucking genius.

::) ask anyone in their ninth year of college...lol.

I nominate this post for highest word count ever recorded. 23 has to be a record.

Buddha
23rd November 2011, 08:10 PM
You don't go to school to increase your IQ, more for indoctrination to be an obedient worker.

What do you expect from a poster named "book'?

Dogman
23rd November 2011, 08:11 PM
What do you expect from a poster named "book'?



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sirgonzo420
23rd November 2011, 09:16 PM
https://dcunnane.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/exams2.jpg

Yeah...sucking on a bong just before the exam makes you a fucking genius.

::) ask anyone in their ninth year of college...lol.

No.

Some of us are just geniuses, bong hits notwithstanding.

The only test you'd have a chance at beating me at is a drug test, and even then only if I intentionally failed.

po boy
23rd November 2011, 10:19 PM
No.

Some of us are just geniuses, bong hits notwithstanding.

The only test you'd have a chance at beating me at is a drug test, and even then only if I intentionally failed.

LOL, Had to take a couple of those for work, first one the boss fired one up if you hit it you passed as long as you took care of business. The second was more of the intrusive kind after I had proven myself well worth keeping, my reply was well do you want me here or not so I ended up passing without taking it at all.