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Glass
27th November 2011, 03:27 PM
A WA Liberal MP has claimed Australians are unknowingly being converted to Islam by eating Halal meat.

In a speech to Parliament yesterday, backbencher Luke Simpkins said most Australians did not know that most of the meat they ate came from animals killed in accordance with Muslim law.

“By having Australians unwittingly eating Halal food we are all one step down the path towards the conversion, and that is a step we should only make with full knowledge and one that should not be imposed upon us without us knowing,” Mr Simpkins told Parliament.

“What is happening is wrong. Too often the minorities in this country are looked after without regard to the majority.”

Mr Simpkins said he had carried out an unofficial survey in his northern-suburbs electorate of Cowan and had discovered that most meat at major chains such as Coles or Woolworths had been killed under Halal conditions, but had not been labelled as such.

He tabled a petition demanding that all Halal meat be clearly identified, complaining people could not buy meat for their “Aussie barbecue” without the influence of the “minority religion”.

Mr Simpkins said that Mohammed the prophet of Islam had talked of how the religion could be expanded around the world by getting people to eat Halal meat.

“He reportedly said, ‘The non-believers will become Muslims when, amongst other things, they eat the meat that we have slaughtered’. This is one of the key aspects to converting non-believers to Islam,” Mr Simpkins said.

The petition tabled by Mr Simpkins had been organised by the Barnabas Fund, an organisation that supports Christians living in Muslim countries.

Immigration Minister Chris Bowen said Opposition Leader Tony Abbott should pull Mr Simpkins into line. “All members of Parliament should be looking to promote understanding and harmony between religions. Mr Simpkins has done the complete opposite,” he said.Link @ the Age (http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/12032577/aussies-unknowingly-being-converted-to-islam/)

palani
27th November 2011, 03:31 PM
Mmmmm. I love my Halal meat wrapped in a strip of bacon.

Ponce
27th November 2011, 03:36 PM
I must be an ifidel because I don't even know what the heck Halal meat is supposed to be.......does this means that if I eat that special blessed Jewish hot dog that I would then qualify to be a Jew?......crap..... I'd better stick to "perros calientes" from Cuba.

Dogman
27th November 2011, 03:41 PM
I must be an ifidel because I don't even know what the heck Halal meat is supposed to be.......does this means that if I eat that special blessed Jewish hot dog that I would then qualify to be a Jew?......crap..... I'd better stick to "perros calientes" from Cuba.
They have secret ingredients that make your children born naked and Jewish, in the long run. In the short run, you will say oy vey, a lot.

Ponce
27th November 2011, 03:44 PM
You mean to say that it should be oy vey instead of oi vei?........ I should had known that I was wrong..... those Jewish hot dogs smelled kind of funny.......yuckkkkkkkkkkkkkk.

Dogman
27th November 2011, 03:46 PM
You mean to say that it should be oy vey instead of oi vei?........ I should had known that I was wrong..... those Jewish hot dogs smelled kind of funny.......yuckkkkkkkkkkkkkk. No ,oy vey would be correct for the indigestion.

Ponce
27th November 2011, 03:51 PM
Thanks Pluto, from now on I will spell it the right way because I just would hate to ofend them by doing it wrong...... anyone would like to buy the Island of Cuba?

Dogman
27th November 2011, 03:52 PM
Thanks Pluto, from now on I will spell it the right way because I just would hate to ofend them by doing it wrong...... anyone would like to buy the Island of Cuba? Trade you for a bridge!

Neuro
28th November 2011, 02:04 AM
Is that all it takes to convert Aussies?

gunDriller
28th November 2011, 05:46 AM
perhaps this is the source of some nightmares & indigestion.

the Kosher food that we eat is trying to start a fight between the Christian food & the Halal food.

General of Darkness
28th November 2011, 06:54 AM
Don't buy halal Meat










Did you know most meat you buy from the supermarket is Halal? For the meat to be halal it has to be slaughtered in accordance to Islamic beliefs which means slitting the throat of the animal whilst its still alive which only can be done by a muslim. If you buy Halal meat you are supporting this inhuman method of killing animals and also supporting Islam. Steps you can take to stop muslims controlling your meat is to ask your supermarket is the meat Halal? If they say yes refuse to buy it.


Please let people know about this as muslims make up 20% of the worlds population and they have no rights to dictate to the other 80% how their meat is handled.


STOP HALAL MEAT TODAY

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po boy
28th November 2011, 07:21 AM
Slaughtering that way falls under the 1st amendment freedom of religion, don't like it shop else where or produce your own.

Many big commercially grown animals live in horrid conditions a good portion of their lives but little ruckus is made about that.

Chicken processing by a Christian farmer. Not safe for peta types.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63S3gLIeQCA

bootstrap
28th November 2011, 07:33 AM
What I think is interesting, a lot of times Muslims can/will eat Kosher meat as a substitute to Halal as the animals are prepared in the same manner.

po boy
28th November 2011, 07:52 AM
What I think is interesting, a lot of times Muslims can/will eat Kosher meat as a substitute to Halal as the animals are prepared in the same manner.

The Bible and the Quran both prohibit eating blood and fat. KJV Leviticus 17:10-14 and Verses 2:172-173 and verse6 145 for the Quran.

Ponce
28th November 2011, 09:12 AM
Happy to say that Jewish women suck a cock the same way as white women......."What happens in the bedroom stays in the bedroom".......don't let those hook noses fool you with all that crap about chosen people....freek them all.

First post of the day..........good morning to one and all.

PS: To the ladies present at GSUS, sorry about my post but "those" people know how to get to my billy goat.

osoab
28th November 2011, 11:11 AM
Is that all it takes to convert Aussies?


You would think that most of the Western world would be Jewish by now with all the Kosher crap we consume/eat.

Ash_Williams
28th November 2011, 11:28 AM
I think that the reason that a muslim would think that halal meat could convert others, is that first of all they think that their religion is right and anyone with a clear head should see that. Second, to kill the animal by slitting the throat properly ends its life before it knows what happened, no time for fear or stress, so those hormones are not dumped into the bloodstream (which is drained soon after as well.) The meat also goes through a more rigorous inspection than non halal/kosher meat. So from that they conclude that better quality meat with less toxins or disease, will give a person a clear head, and they'll see the islam is the obvious correct choice.

Slitting the throat has been shown to be advantagous over some of the other slaughter methods used today. The real advantage, however, was probably in the past. They couldn't shoot or electrically stun an animal a few centuries ago, so slitting the throat was the only painless method of slaughter and would have resulted in better meat.

Awoke
28th November 2011, 12:13 PM
Are you trying to tell people that slitting a cows throat is a fast and less stressful way for the animal to die that with pneumatic punch?

I don't think so. Try watching "No country for old men".
see from 0:12 to 0:18 here:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3yg3i_movie-no-country-for-old-men-vost-goodspeed_shortfilms


I think slitting the throat would be extremely stressful for the animal and cause all sorts of adrenaline to be released.

Neuro
28th November 2011, 03:08 PM
Are you trying to tell people that slitting a cows throat is a fast and less stressful way for the animal to die that with pneumatic punch?

I don't think so. Try watching "No country for old men".
see from 0:12 to 0:18 here:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3yg3i_movie-no-country-for-old-men-vost-goodspeed_shortfilms


I think slitting the throat would be extremely stressful for the animal and cause all sorts of adrenaline to be released.
Certainly a pneumatic slug should be faster, but slitting the throat is very fast too, and the adrenaline is mainly released into the blood stream, from the adrenal gland, and since the blood is drained, I don't think it has bad effect on the meat. Between the two methods I think it is way more important the level of stress the animal is in prior to the killing. In an industrial type of slaughter I can't see how the animal can't be stressed. No matter the killing method...

Dogman
28th November 2011, 03:11 PM
Certainly a pneumatic slug should be faster, but slitting the throat is very fast too, and the adrenaline is mainly released into the blood stream, from the adrenal gland, and since the blood is drained, I don't think it has bad effect on the meat. Between the two methods I think it is way more important the level of stress the animal is in prior to the killing. In an industrial type of slaughter I can't see how the animal can't be stressed. No matter the killing method... Yep, herded and prodded into a strange place, and for sure what they are smelling. Bet they know , something is wrong!

ximmy
28th November 2011, 05:18 PM
I Ate Halal Meat And Now I Look Like This... :o
http://www.thegoodatheist.net/images/beheshti.jpg

Ash_Williams
28th November 2011, 05:20 PM
Are you trying to tell people that slitting a cows throat is a fast and less stressful way for the animal to die that with pneumatic punch?

I don't think so. Try watching "No country for old men".
see from 0:12 to 0:18 here:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3y...eed_shortfilms


I think slitting the throat would be extremely stressful for the animal and cause all sorts of adrenaline to be released.

They can test this. Electrodes in the animal's brain can tell if it has felt anything. Properly done, the sudden loss of blood pressure shuts down the animal's brain before it has time to register what happened. Of course, "properly done" being the key.

The bolt and electric shock are other options. These are as good as slitting the throat when done perfectly.

In the case when either method is not done properly (and this happens all the time with the bolt or the shock), the slitting method results in most of the tainted blood being drained without delay.

The stricted rules on inspection of the animal, no diseased animals, etc. would be of advantage although I have my doubts on how often these rules are followed.

Neuro
29th November 2011, 12:35 AM
I Ate Halal Meat And Now I Look Like This... :o
http://www.thegoodatheist.net/images/beheshti.jpg

It may have been laced with a cup or two of testosterone. :)

Glass
29th November 2011, 04:54 AM
I think for Halal they need to be facing Mecca when they slaughter. Christians often say Grace before eating. I wonder if it's along the same lines of thinking?

Awoke
29th November 2011, 05:18 AM
Christians say Grace to thank God for the food he has given us.

gunDriller
29th November 2011, 06:52 AM
eating Halal meat doesn't make you Islam any more than eating Kosher makes you Jewish (good thing, too.)

if you want to be Muslim, you accept Mohammed as your Savior. the theology is very similar to Christianity, as is the moral codes.

Islam also recognizes Jesus Christ as a Great Prophet - one difference between the 2 religions.

This is what you learn having Muslim friends !

Awoke
29th November 2011, 11:51 AM
if you want to be Muslim, you accept Mohammed as your Savior. the theology is very similar to Christianity, as is the moral codes.

Islam also recognizes Jesus Christ as a Great Prophet - one difference between the 2 religions.

This is what you learn having Muslim friends !

There is a lot more to it than that, my friend.
I would suggest you buy a couple copies of this book and distribute it to your muslim friends, and read it yourself:

Jesus and Muhammed (http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Muhammad-Differences-Surprising-Similarities/dp/1591852919/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322596252&sr=8-1)