Movies/TV Serives reflecting REALITY

[FreeEnergy]

Since I was not born and raised in US, and since I've got a bunch of international friends who are interested in REAL America - a humble question to the audience of the "alternative reality".

Here goes.

What Movie/Movies, TV series, websites etc. would you say most closely reflect The American Reality?

Caveat: I am not talking about "life is good", propaganda, and neither "life is crap, buy gold and shelter". The reality is in between and it is quite boring, I presume, to be filmed by Hollywood. But nevertheless.

Thank you for your answers.

Free Energy - basic human right.

[MNeagle]

America when? Now or ?

[ximmy]

Do "jew-infected" shows count?

[FreeEnergy]

Well, yes, of course reality NOW.

jew-infested shows I could care less about, unless they are close to reality and can be suggested not just for pure "laugh at the jews" value.

I mentioned to someone before: for a bunch of semi-whores in New York looking for some spanking, reality is "sex and the city". but that is also not what I am looking for.

[General of Darkness]

Idiocracy.

[palani]

Two 60's movies

The Southerner

The Trial (citizen Kane type)

[ximmy]

Well, yes, of course reality NOW.

jew-infested shows I could care less about, unless they are close to reality and can be suggested not just for pure "laugh at the jews" values.

I mentioned to someone before: for a bunch of semi-chores in New York looking for some spanking, reality is "sex and the city". but that is also not what I am looking for.

...then, I think My So Called Life was a great example of modern pre-911 Americana... with introspection, moral questions, etc.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_Etd_CYI_k

[Libertarian_Guard]

Dancing w/the starz!

If you want to know where America's heart lies, look no further.

[MNeagle]

Haven't seen the movie, but 1984 might be close!

[FreeEnergy]

General, thanks, I watched Idiocracy. Hmmm. I think it may be too exaggerated, it is going to be hard to explain where exaggerations are. Something closer to the middle?

[FreeEnergy]

palani, thanks. Is there something closer to home than movies made in 1945?

[FreeEnergy]

As far as 1984, I KNOW it is not 1984 here yet, not by a long shot. :)

[palani]

palani, thanks. Is there something closer to home than movies made in 1945?

Not really. Everything you see is fiction. Reality ended with HJR 192.

[FreeEnergy]

ok, maybe if not the movies. Maybe something on PBS, Discovery?

[General of Darkness]

Now that I think about it, I don't really think that there are any movies in this day and age that are accurate. GoD is scratching his head.

[palani]

ok, maybe if not the movies. Maybe something on PBS, Discovery?

The Unit was sort of realistic. I guess I would classify it as such because they had a plan in place to bug out.

[po boy]

Not really. Everything you see is fiction. Reality ended with HJR 192.


You do know we have gold and silver coins minted and that they are legal tender right?

You have the option of paying debt at law if you choose to.

[osoab]

Big Joe's Polka Show!

[palani]

You do know we have gold and silver coins minted and that they are legal tender right?

You have the option of paying debt at law if you choose to.

Law and equity merged in the early '50s. They are now the same jurisdiction and Law has lost out.

As to paying debt at Law, if presented with a bill for $1,000 and you present a $50 one oz gold coin for payment instead of change they are going to ask when the extra $950 will be forthcoming. You don't pay bills (extinguish) in a communist country. You discharge them.

[po boy]

Law and equity merged in the early '50s. They are now the same jurisdiction and Law has lost out.

As to paying debt at Law, if presented with a bill for $1,000 and you present a $50 one oz gold coin for payment instead of change they are going to ask when the extra $950 will be forthcoming. You don't pay bills (extinguish) in a communist country. You discharge them.

In procedure.

If you want to pay for something lay out your term and pay it. If you want to discharge debt use FRN.

[ximmy]

Law and equity merged in the early '50s. They are now the same jurisdiction and Law has lost out.

As to paying debt at Law, if presented with a bill for $1,000 and you present a $50 one oz gold coin for payment instead of change they are going to ask when the extra $950 will be forthcoming. You don't pay bills (extinguish) in a communist country. You discharge them.

This is why US silver eagles are stamped at $1.00 face value... "US government demands you turn in all your US silver coin immediately. You will be compensated according to US specific face value, in dollar bills"

[po boy]

This is why US silver eagles are stamped at $1.00 face value... "US government demands you turn in all your US silver coin immediately. You will be compensated according to US specific face value, in dollar bills"

What coins?

[Glass]

To me the two main ones are: Pulp Fiction and Idiocracy.

I saw some of both when I spent some time in Florida. It really struck me as we drove down towards the keys. All those flea motels along the highway were just like the one stayed in by Willis's character, the appartment blocks, those concrete urban jungle streets with the shuttered up shop windows and so on. It really struck me that while we watched hollywood movies for their escapism, they were actually documentaries on America and not fictional at all.

Then there were the people. I don't think I have ever seen so many blank looks from people when trying to deal with them. I found you had to go by the script. You couldn't chit chat with someone or crack a joke. I think the slack jaw response to jokes was the most worrying thing. No one seemed to have a sense of humour. Then there were all the pharmaceutical adverts on TV. It was just like Idiocracy. The TV adverts were either Pills to make you not unhappy, because if you unhappy then there is a pill for that. Plus all the other mindless dribble. The other main adverts were usually for insecticides or something. Often a Monsanto product like Round Up. Did you know you can spray round up all round your house, on the roof, all over the pavement, right up to the edge of the house. Make sure you give it a good soaking. There was a pesticide one which was the same. Have a bath in it. It's good for you!

[palani]

This is why US silver eagles are stamped at $1.00 face value... "US government demands you turn in all your US silver coin immediately....."

Already offered them $21 worth in bond form. They accepted my offer and now must show where such a demand complies with the 1971 Truth In Lending Act.

The form of money used establishes the lawform. An FRN gives you the appearance of reality while hard metal coins ARE reality.

[VX1]

Look what trite, trivial and boring lives the majority of Americans live as debt-slaves, stuck going round and round in a toilet bowl of menial labor, consumerism, stuffing their faces, and feeding their brains garbage from a flickering box, while voluntarily being “programmed”. If that was made into a show, don’t you think it would be cancelled tomorrow?

If you really think about Idiocracy, it’s closer that most would like to admit. Surely not 500 years away, but a couple of generations away, tops. There’s definitely some Americans living the life of adventure, expanding their intelligence, and broadening their horizons, but the majority are:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qniwI2hNhDs&feature=fvsr (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qniwI2hNhDs)

[midnight rambler]

The Prisoner


The series features striking and often surreal storylines, and themes include hypnosis, hallucinogenic drug (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelics,_dissociatives_and_deliriants) experiences, identity theft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_theft), mind control (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_control), dream manipulation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream), and various forms of social indoctrination (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indoctrination). A major theme of the show is individualism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individualism) versus collectivism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collectivism).

[muffin]

I think your question is too general. I've lived in and visited many parts of America and all are very different.

Edit: Maybe True Life (http://www.mtv.com/shows/truelife/series.jhtml) on MTV? I've never watched it but it looks like it has a different story for each episode...

[keehah]

Da Vinci's Inquest

[gunDriller]

Doogie Howser - shows suburbia.

Beverly Hills 90210 - shows snobby people in Jew-infested neighborhood.

Breaking Bad - shows a spectrum of society, from meth-heads to middle class to rich folks. mostly realistic, though i don't know if any high school chemistry teachers with a burden of medical bills have ever gone into the meth production business.


i don't watch that much TV.

[muffin]

I don't care much for Morgan Spurlock but Thirty Days (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0437696/) is a good example...

[Tumbleweed]

I haven't watched tv for ten years but I do watch a movie once in a while if someone tells me there is a good one and a little something about it. I wonder if "Grand Torino" with Clint Eastwood comes close to reality in the area it was filmed.

[PatColo]

The cab ride segments on HBO's "Taxicab Confessions" were always interesting- sort of Pulp-Fiction-esque, but they take place in Manhattan which is it's own world, and of course the boring cab rides- most of them I assume, didn't make the final edit.

This piece just aired on CBS' 60 Minutes, video inside,

Here's The Heartbreaking 60 Minutes Interview That Will Have You In Tears (http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-the-heartbreaking-60-minutes-interview-everyone-is-talking-about-2011-11)

[Sparky]

This is a great challenge, though you haven't received many legitimate answers. Closest so far is "My So-Called Life". I'm going to think about this one a little more...

I'm of the opinion that 95% of the stuff on TV is crap, but the remaining 5% has some real gems.

BTW, ximmy's suggestion reminded me of the show "Freaks and Geeks", which taped only 18 episodes, and was one of the most curious TV show cancellations ever. Imagine these accolades for a show cancelled in the middle of its first season (from Wiki):

"Despite a quick cancellation and only one season with 18 episodes, Freaks and Geeks developed a devoted cult following. The series appeared on Time Magazine's 2007 "100 Greatest Shows of All Time" list,[/URL] as well as placing 3rd on their list of the greatest television shows of the 2000s. In 2007, Freaks and Geeks ranked #21 on TV Guide's Top Cult Shows Ever. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freaks_and_Geeks#cite_note-2) In 2008, Entertainment Weekly ranked it the 13th-best series of the past 25 years.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freaks_and_Geeks#cite_note-5"]"

[FreeEnergy]

Thanks for the answers, got distracted a bit.

Sparky, I am checking out "My So-Called Life".

How about these:
American Beauty (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0169547/)
The Godfather ? (clearly jewish, not italian-american mobsters showed, priceless BTW if you look at it in this angle)
Once upon a time in America ? (didn't watch , have no idea)

[Santa]

TV doesn't emulate America. America emulates TV.

It's as though we're all bit actors on the stage of our preferred programming.

So what are you? A Fox guy, or a CNN type?

Do you dance with the stars or do you leave it to Beaver?

Either way, welcome to the Matrix. ;)

[Libertytree]

Yeah, there's a lot of typical tv nonsense and it's quirky and funny as hell at others but Boston Legal is seeded with gems like these.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwDAbVqQqv0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnZKogXcA4Y&feature=related

[Sparky]

Quintessential scene from "Law Abiding Citizen" regarding how our legal system operates:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgXjNkwVyeE

[osoab]

Jersey Shore?

[Gaillo]

Just destroy your TV... you'll get more "reality" than you want! ;D

[Santa]

Just destroy your TV... you'll get more "reality" than you want! ;D

Like a fish draining it's own aquarium... :)

[osoab]

Just destroy your TV... you'll get more "reality" than you want! ;D

And get some peaches.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9RBgfUvymM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9RBgfUvymM

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

The movie NETWORK comes to mind.

[PlatinumBlonde]

John Carpenter's They Live..

[General of Darkness]

Here you go. Welcome to the KWA.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bavou_SEj1E

[keehah]

Joe Carnahan and Liam Neeson Battle Wild Wolves and Frigid Temperatures in 'The Grey' (http://www.fearnet.com/news/interviews/b25218_joe_carnahan_liam_neeson_battle_wild.html)

Jan. 26, 2012 2:00 PM PST , by Joseph McCabe http://www.fearnet.com/news

...The end result was worth the pain. "There's no CGI for all that weather," says Neeson. "All those storms and the rest of it was absolutely the real deal and you can't fake that. It was really challenging. All you want to do is stay warm."

Some members of the production thought Carnahan might be taking things a bit too far. "I remember the first day we put Liam in the snow and everybody freaking out and saying, ‘You can't do this," Carnahan recalls. "It was cold. I had partial frostbite on the tips of my fingers. At first it was cool and then by the last few weeks you're like, ‘This isn't cool any more.' But I remember putting snow on his face. That's not makeup. He's that cold. I think we earned it, as opposed to going to Glendale and having styrofoam snowflakes like, ‘I'll be in my trailer.' You would've spotted that right from the top."

With visions of terribly CG'd wolves dancing through his mind (Twilight, anyone?) Carnahan knew one thing he couldn't fake was the deadly beasts. Besides having them look realistic in the final cut in the film, Carnahan knew having a physical presence on set would add to the visceral reaction from his cast. He decided on a mix of animatronic wolves, real wolves and a small dose of CG post work to complete the look.

"They were animatronic, puppets, the ones I was working with," says Neeson. "There's very, very little CGI. When something's real, you know it and you experience it as real."

Working with the real wolves turned out to be a trickier endeavor than the director had first suspected. "Getting them to perform was tough," admits Carnahan. "They're pack animals. The wolves are going to do whatever they want. I found that the wolves were very good if you said, ‘You're going from point A to point B, but not if you said, ‘Can you get them to howl?' They're not dogs, they're not domesticated animals."

Rumors of some animal activist groups protesting the film have recently surfaced as The Grey approaches release, which comes a surprise to the director. "If you watch the movie, the wolves do okay," Carnahan says with a smile. "I treated the wolves in this film as a facet of and thereby a force of nature. But I don't think they're any different than the blizzard or the river or the cliffside or anything the guys encounter in this film that is simply nature. And you know what, for all of its beauty, and wolves are extraordinarily beautiful, there is hostility. People say wolves never attack people, but listen I could give you dozens of stories and accounts that are completely contrary to that.

...The Grey opens in theaters nationwide January 27th, 2012.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

The Prisoner

-Who is number one?!

-You are number six.

http://www.crimetime.co.uk/images/prisonerlarge.jpg