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midnight rambler
30th November 2011, 11:14 AM
That's what it currently appears the 'choice' is going to be.

The very same machinations which put the Kenyan in will keep Ron Paul out - again. I hate to say it, but count on it and act accordingly.

chad
30th November 2011, 11:16 AM
i'm in amazement that newt is running. he's the guy who got nafta pushed through so all of the jobs could be shipped to china. who would possibly vote for a guy that next to clinton (for signing it) was single handed responsible for ruining the country?

General of Darkness
30th November 2011, 11:29 AM
i'm in amazement that newt is running. he's the guy who got nafta pushed through so all of the jobs could be shipped to china. who would possibly vote for a guy that next to clinton (for signing it) was single handed responsible for ruining the country?

Excellent point.
Gingrich: NAFTA Worked Because It Created Jobs In Mexico (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/03/15/150658/gingrich-nafta-mexico-jobs/)

By Alex Seitz-Wald (http://thinkprogress.org/author/alex-seitz-wald/) on Mar 15, 2011 at 1:46 pm
http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/GingrichCPAC2.jpg



Senate Republicans yesterday vowed to block (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-15/mcconnell-says-republicans-to-stop-nominees-on-trade-deals-2-.html) any potential nominees for Commerce Secretary or other trade posts until the White House moves ahead with free trade agreements with South Korea, Colombia, and Panama. But Republicans need look back only to the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) of the ’90s to see the potential downsides (http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2008/03/advancing_nafta.html) to these types of deals.
One of NAFTA’s biggest promoters (http://www.nytimes.com/1993/11/13/us/free-trade-accord-clinton-extends-unusual-offer-republicans-pact.html?src=pm), former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, appeared on the Howie Carr radio show yesterday evening and was asked about the watershed trade pact between the U.S., Mexico, and Canada he helped create. Responding to a caller who asserted that NAFTA killed American jobs, Gingrich didn’t disagree, but retorted by touting the fact that NAFTA had created jobs “close to the United States” in Mexico:

CALLER: Back in the ’90s I remember Ross Perot saying that there was going to be the giant sucking sound of jobs if NAFTA passed. I think it ended up being true, right? And I know you were a big free trader.
GINGRICH: Yeah, well, I don’t think it was true in Mexico. I think the fact is that NAFTA allowed us to build jobs in Canada, the United States, and Mexico, in competition with China. I mean, our big competitor is not Mexico. Our big competitor is China and India. And I’d rather have jobs close to the United States than have jobs overseas in places like China and India. That’s why I was in favor of it. … So in a sense, I’d like our neighborhood to be fairly well off and fairly prosperous.
Listen here:


Of course, critics of NAFTA worried about precisely (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/trade/stories/tr111893.htm) what Gingrich points to as a success — jobs being created in Mexico and Canada instead of the U.S. While there were many benefits (http://www.cfr.org/economics/naftas-economic-impact/p15790) to the American economy from enacting the pact, there is no question that NAFTA pushed low-skilled American jobs out of the U.S. to Mexico. “All 50 states and the District of Columbia have experienced a net loss of jobs (http://www.epi.org/pages/briefingpapers_nafta01_impactstates/) under NAFTA,” especially in the manufacturing and agriculture sectors, according to a study from the Economic Policy institute. “[O]ver a million jobs that would otherwise have been created were lost, and wages were pressured downward (http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/bp173/) for a large number of workers with less than a college education.”

And Gingrich himself promised NAFTA would help create American jobs, telling Congress after being re-elected Speaker that the treaty would help the U.S. “focus on increasing American jobs (http://www.nytimes.com/1997/01/08/us/excerpt-from-gingrich-s-remarks-to-house-after-re-election-as-speaker.html?scp=2&sq=newt+gingrich+nafta+jobs&st=nyt) through world sales.” It’s not like Gingrich wasn’t warned about what NAFTA would do to American manufacturing. Robert Reischauer, then the director of the Congressional Budget Office, warned in 1993 that while the deal would create jobs for educated Americans, the gains “will all largely be invisible.” “But when the glass factory in Toledo closes or the textile plant in South Carolina or the furniture manufacturer in North Carolina because those low-wage jobs move to Mexico (http://www.nytimes.com/1993/09/15/us/splintered-trade-2-unusual-political-alliances-reflect-long-term-gain-short-term.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm), it will be highly visible, and it will be attributable to Nafta,” he said.

mick silver
30th November 2011, 11:30 AM
i would like to see one of the so called leader stand up for freedom of speech at one of the seat ends going on in this country . just why is there no one standing up and saying that locking up people if wrong . not one of the so called leaders are doing this . i will bite my lips and stop but not a one

EE_
30th November 2011, 11:37 AM
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chad
30th November 2011, 11:43 AM
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General of Darkness
30th November 2011, 11:49 AM
Some additional info.


- Card-Carrying member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), a globalist think tank
- "Distinguished member" of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (neocon, pro-interventionism group)
- Member of Bohemian Grove
- Member of the World Future Society
- Voted for NAFTA, a blatant circumvention of Congress’ exclusive power to regulate commerce with foreign nations. Took power from American people and put it into the hands of unelected Binational panels, made mostly of foreigners.
- Supported GATT
- Supported WTO
- Continually supported increased federal spending.
- Supported the National Endowment for the Arts;
- Voted for the creation of the Federal Dept. of Education in 1979 under Jimmy Carter.
- Big supporter of Foreign Aid -- even to Soviets through the Export-Import Bank.
- In one year (1994-1995) Gingrich voted for nearly $45 billion in foreign aid.
- He helped push through Federally-funded loan guarantees to Communist China.
- Urged the House to repeal the War Powers Act and give the Presidency more power.
- Urged Clinton to expand military presence in Bosnia.
- Supports Afghan War
- Supports Iraq War
- Calls for Iran War
- Supported Clinton's welfare programs, education programs, labor programs, and environmental programs, as well as most of his foreign affairs programs.
- Supported spending $30B for the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 that shackled gun owners with new restrictions, federalized a number of crimes, and handed the feds police powers that the Constitution reserves to the states.
- Voted to give billions of dollars to United Nations "peacekeeping" operations;
- Pushed for a School Prayer Amendment
- Mentored by Henry Kissinger
- Bailed out savings and loan institutions in 1991. $40B Bank bailout
- He was a draft-dodger during the Vietnam War, yet pushed aggressive foreign interventionism his entire political career, and did say that Vietnam was the "right battlefield at the right time."
- He cheated on one of his wives while she was suffering from cancer, delivered divorce papers to her in the hospital.
- Worked on the Rockefeller presidential campaign in 1968.


10/22/1991 - He voted for an amendment that would create a National Police Corps.
11/19/1993 - He voted for the NAFTA Implementation Act.
11/27/1994 - He supported the GATT Treaty giving sovereignty to the U.N.
08/27/1995 - He suggests that drug smuggling should carry a death sentence.
04/25/1996 - Voted for the single largest increase on Federal education spending ($3.5 Billion)
06/--/1995 - He wrote the foreword to a book about tearing down the U.S. Constitution and implementing a Fascist World Government.
06/01/1996 - He helped a Democrat switch parties in an attempt to defeat constitutionalist Ron Paul in the 1996 election.
09/25/1996 - Introduced H.R. 4170, demanded life-sentence or execution for someone bringing 2 ounces of marijuana across the border.
01/22/1997 - Congress gave him a record-setting $300,000 fine for ethical wrongdoing.
11/29/2006 - He said that free speech should be curtailed in order to fight terrorism. Wants to stop terrorists from using the internet. Called for a "serious debate about the 1st Amendment."
11/29/2006 - He called for a "Geneva Convention for terrorists" so it would be clear who the Constitution need not apply to.
02/15/2007 - He supported Bush's proposal for mandatory carbon caps.
04/04/2007 - He says that there should be a clear distinction about what weapons should be reserved for only for the military.
04/17/2008 - Made a commercial with Nancy Pelosi on Climate Change.
09/28/2008 - Says if he were in office, he would have reluctantly voted for the $700B TARP bailout.
10/01/2008 - Says in an article that TARP was a "workout, not a bailout."
12/08/2008 - He was paid $300,000 by Freddie Mac to halt Congress from bringing necessary reform.
03/31/2009 - Says we should have Singapore-style drug tests for Americans.
07/30/2010 - Says that Iraq was just step one in defeating the "Axis of Evil".
08/03/2010 - Advocates attacks on Iran & North Korea.
08/16/2010 - Opposes property rights of the mosque owner in NYC.
08/16/2010 - Compares mosque supporters to Nazis
11/15/2010 - He defended Romneycare; blamed liberals
12/02/2010 - He advocates a pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens.
12/05/2010 - He said that a website owner should be considered an enemy combatant, hunted down and executed, for publishing leaked government memos.
01/30/2011 - He lobbied for ethanol subsidies.
01/30/2011 - He suggested that flex-fuel vehicles be mandated for Americans.
02/10/2011 - He wants to replace the EPA instead of abolishing it.
02/02/2011 - He says we are "losing the War on Terror"; the conflict will be as long as the Cold War
02/15/2011 - His book said that he believes man-made climate-change and advocated creating "a new endowment for conservation and the environment."
03/09/2011 - He blames his infidelity to multiple wives on his passion for the country.
03/15/2011 - Says that NAFTA worked because it created jobs in Mexico.
03/19/2011 - He has no regrets about supporting Medicare drug coverage. (Now $7.2T unfunded liability)
03/23/2011 - He completely flip-flopped on Libyan intervention in 16 days.
03/25/2011 - He plans to sign as many as 200 executive orders on his first day as president.
03/27/2011 - He says that America is under attack by atheist Islamists.
04/25/2011 - He's a paid lobbyist for Federal ethanol subsidies.
05/11/2011 - His campaign video said that he wants to "find solutions together, and insist on imposing those solutions on those who do not want to change."
05/12/2011 - He was more supportive of individual health-care mandates than Mitt Romney.
05/15/2011 - Said GOP's plan to cut back Medicare was "too big a jump."
05/15/2011 - He backed Obama's individual mandate; "All of us have a responsibility to help pay for health care."
05/16/2011 - He also endorsed individual mandates in 1993 when Clinton pushed Universal Health Care.
05/17/2011 - He has an outstanding debt to Tiffany's Jewelry of between $250K - $500K.
06/09/2011 - His own campaign staff resigned en masse.
07/15/2011 - His poorly managed campaign is over $1 Million in debt.
08/01/2011 - He hired a company to create fake Twitter to appear as if he had a following.
08/11/2011 - His recent criticism of the United Nations is United Nations by a long, long history of supporting it.
09/27/2011 - He says that he "helped develop the model for Homeland Security"
10/07/2011 - He said he'd ignore the Supreme Court if need be.


MORE SOURCES
The Grinch Who Stole Conservatism
Newt World Order Gingrich supported GATT, NAFTA and WTO while in Congress
Gingrich, Toffler, and Gore: A Peculiar Trio
Newt's Contract with the Earth: Pseudo-Science, Big Government
Newt Gingrich: The Establishment’s Conservative
Newt Gingrich: The "Anti-Romney" or the "Other Romney"?
Slideshow: The Many Flip-Flops of Newt Gingrich
'Newt'worthy or Not? Is Newt Gingrich the Best Candidate for President in the Republican Primary?

QUOTES
"The idea that a congressman would be tainted by accepting money from private industry or private sources is essentially a socialist argument." - Newt Gingrich

"[O]ur government, at all levels, must be modernized to successfully partner, let alone compete, with the private sector." -- Newt Gingrich, A Contract with the Earth (p.196)

"The U.S. government operates endowments for the humanities and the arts…Perhaps, it is time we consider a new endowment for conservation and the environment." -- Newt Gingrich, A Contract with the Earth (pp. 115-116)

"We agree that there is plenty of evidence that global climate change is occurring…While humanity is certainly causing its fair share of the change, scientists are still not able to precisely pinpoint the extent of the change, or the margin of error in their estimates." -- Newt Gingrich, A Contract with the Earth (p. 200)

"In spite of the demonstrated liberal leanings in academia, we have nothing but respect for the nation’s scientists. They represent America’s best hope to protect the environment. We support a dramatic increase in science and technology research and development because we desperately need to understand global climate change and other environmental phenomena." -- Newt Gingrich, A Contract with the Earth (p. 201)

"If you import a commercial quantity of illegal drugs, it is because you have made the personal decision that you are prepared to get rich by destroying our children. I have made the decision that I love our children enough that we will kill you if you do this." -- Newt Gingrich (source)

"What we're being told is that free trade with Mexico would devastate the U.S. economy. With its low wages, Mexico would unleash a flood of cheap imports into our markets. There would be a mass exodus of U.S. factory jobs, as hordes of American companies fled across the border.... All this is scare talk." -- Newt Gingrich, on the House floor 9/22/1993. (source)

Q: "Will you rally the troops for GATT and the World Trade Organization?"
A: "Yes. In the first place, the Administration has accepted amendments of Senator Dole and myself giving Congress dramatically more oversight of the WTO, including the right to bring up a vote on withdrawal every five years in perpetuity, so at any point that we think it is out of control or inappropriate, we can simply withdraw." -- Newt Gingrich, 11/11/1994 (source)

"The American challenge in leading the world is compounded by our Constitution. Under our [constitutional system] - either we're going to have to rethink our Constitution, or we're going to have to rethink our process of decision-making." He went on to profess an oxymoronic belief in "very strong but limited federal government," and pledged, "I am for the United Nations." -- Newt Gingrich, July 1995, speech at the Center for Strategic & International Affairs (source)

"Professor Gingrich hopefully will never be called upon to teach a course in the proper role of our federal government. His rare votes against bloated big government usually have been prompted by the partisan wrangling of the moment, not by any great respect for, or understanding of, the Constitution." --James Toft of “Tax Reform Immediately” (TRIM)

midnight rambler
30th November 2011, 11:50 AM
BJ Clintoon came out and 'endorsed' Newt a few days ago.

iOWNme
30th November 2011, 12:35 PM
Newt is a useful tool. The elections are a year away. They havent even introduced their 'Ringer' yet, IMO.

midnight rambler
30th November 2011, 12:56 PM
Newt is a useful tool. The elections are a year away. They havent even introduced their 'Ringer' yet, IMO.

IMO, it appears Newt has the momentum to win the sweepstakes - at least at this time. He certainly has the credentials and track record for some world class Zio-cock holstering.

Their 'ringer' may be some 3rd party show to assist in keeping the Kenyan in place.

gunDriller
30th November 2011, 12:57 PM
Newt might be good at playing Santa Claus.

but then i guess that's part of the job of being a president of the US - a Santa Claus who works for Israel.

Spectrism
30th November 2011, 01:21 PM
I say we give them both 2 hand grenades and put them in a small room with no furniture and tell them to fight it out to the death.

Libertytree
30th November 2011, 01:34 PM
While I certainly won't discount newt being the "one", I'm not comfortable handing it to him just yet, there's still a loooong way to go. I don't know about anyone else but surely as GoD pointed out, his past deeds and credentials made his move upward inevitable and ya had to see it coming. Staying there is an entirely different story and perhaps Ron Paul will have something to say about it as well.

Neuro
30th November 2011, 02:29 PM
He's a fucking ugly lardarse!

collector
30th November 2011, 03:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jWPz1Qdq1uI

mrnhtbr2232
30th November 2011, 04:15 PM
When your GOP roster is stacked 7-deep with Zionist sympathizers they have plenty to work with. This is not a vetting process for the public, it is a vetting process for who has the best chance to maintain the status quo. If Gingrich can be counted on to advance the agenda he has a chance, but if he drops the ball there's still a few left on the shelf to work with. Either way, this is all about who can deep throat their masters, not carrying the day for liberty.

osoab
30th November 2011, 05:01 PM
When your GOP roster is stacked 7-deep with Zionist sympathizers they have plenty to work with. This is not a vetting process for the public, it is a vetting process for who has the best chance to maintain the status quo. If Gingrich can be counted on to advance the agenda he has a chance, but if he drops the ball there's still a few left on the shelf to work with. Either way, this is all about who can deep throat their masters, not carrying the day for liberty.

Agree, Newt is just currently the flavor of the month. The past flavors, not in any order are Michelle, Good Hair, Cain, Newt, and Romney. Granted Romney keeps coming up as the most electable for most of the neocon radio shills.




So the question is what is Newt's flavor?

I'm going with Tapioca.

vacuum
30th November 2011, 05:20 PM
Newt is ahead, but I don't see how he could be the one. He has got too much baggage and is overall too much of a disgusting backroom neocon with no appeal to anyone imo. He was designed to be a just another person that they could put in line to make things look legitimate and marginalize those who they really don't want to win. Again, I don't think Newt is enough of a salesman to seriously be the frontrunner. Cain and Perry were good salesmen on the other hand, they just had personality flaws which were too obtuse to be it.

lapis
30th November 2011, 11:00 PM
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/5474/newtstaypuft.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/684/newtstaypuft.jpg/)
SEPARATED AT BIRTH?!

iOWNme
1st December 2011, 05:37 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jWPz1Qdq1uI

Great video from collector here......

Thanks!

iOWNme
1st December 2011, 05:40 AM
The Ron Paul Campaign exposes Newt Gingrich as a flip-flopping liar.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWKTOCP45zY&feature=player_embedded

Libertytree
1st December 2011, 07:45 AM
I really like this ad but it's just too long for anything except for online. It really needs to be cut down to 30 secs or two parts 1&2 30 secs each so it can be shown on tv and be seen by the masses. Online ads only reach a certain narrow segment and that just don't cut it.

Book
1st December 2011, 07:54 AM
http://www.mysanantonio.com/mediaManager/?controllerName=image&action=get&id=820926&width=628&height=471

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