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General of Darkness
1st December 2011, 10:07 PM
WTF?

Senate Passes Bill With Disputed Terror Policies



By EVAN PEREZ (http://online.wsj.com/search/term.html?KEYWORDS=EVAN+PEREZ&bylinesearch=true)

WASHINGTON -- The Senate passed a $662 billion Pentagon funding bill Thursday night after days of fights among lawmakers over terrorism-related provisions that would authorize indefinite detention without trial and give preference to military detention of terror suspects instead of the civilian justice system.


The Obama administration has threatened to veto the legislation, arguing the executive branch should decide how to try terror detainees.


The Justice Department, the Pentagon and intelligence agencies voiced opposition to the military-detention provision, arguing it would interfere with the work of terrorism investigators and interrupt intelligence collection. Instead of civilian trials, suspects accused of being members of al Qaeda and related groups would face military commissions under the legislation, unless the defense secretary grants a waiver.


The legislation was approved by a 93-7 vote.


The Senate and House must now agree on a compromise funding bill because the House version of the legislation differs from the Senate version.
A White House spokesman didn't have immediate comment.


The bipartisan bill--sponsored by Sen. Carl Levin (JEW), chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee and his Republican counterpart, Sen. John McCain (crypto-kike)--has scrambled traditional political alliances.


Some Republicans aligned with the tea party movement, led by Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, have railed against provisions that Mr. Paul argued violated the Constitution, aligning himself with liberal Democrats.


Senators spent hours Thursday arguing over a provision that authorizes the indefinite detention without trial of some terror suspects, including American citizens. President Barack Obama has outlined plans to use indefinite detention and lawmakers in both parties sought to make clear such a tactic is legal.
But after an outcry conveyed by both liberal and conservative blogs, lawmakers arrived at a compromise that essentially concluded the indefinite detention was allowed while saying current policy wouldn't change.


Both parties emerged disagreeing over whether the law allowed or disallowed indefinite detention of Americans. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (jew) (D., Calif.), an architect of the compromise, said it didn't. Sen. Lindsey Graham (FAGGOT) (R., S.C.), who helped negotiate it, said he believed it did.

Hatha Sunahara
2nd December 2011, 10:26 AM
Here's a Gordon Duff piece that points to the truth about this bill, and about our nation:

http://mycatbirdseat.com/2011/12/gordon-duff-the-truth-about-the-national-defense-authorization-act/

No political correctness here.

I have a recommendation for a movie that will give you an idea of where we are headed--it's a German film called The Lives of Others--about a police state.


Hatha

Hatha Sunahara
12th December 2011, 03:12 PM
If there's any doubt that we are falling off a cliff into a totalitarian hell, this might be enough to remove such doubt.

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28158

Here's the first paragraph:

America's "Democratic Dictatorship": The Defense Authorization Act will Destroy The Bill of Rights (http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28158)


by Sherwood Ross via globalresearch.ca

The grim face of totalitarianism is emerging in the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) now before Congress

This bill is the last mile post on America’s sad, well-traveled road to the butcher shop of dictatorship. We have been headed that way for some time and, with a little help from Congress, we’ll arrive there shortly, putting an ugly end to the American experiment. The Senate December 1st passed the bill by a vote of 93-7.In the name of “defense,” NDAA underwrites $662-billion for continued U.S. aggression in our many foreign wars while, on the domestic front, it incinerates the last surviving shreds of the Bill of Rights. According to the American Civil Liberties Union(ACLU), it authorizes presidents “to order the military to pick up and imprison people, including U.S. citizens, without charging them or putting them on trial.” (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) So much for Amendment VI to our Constitution that “the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial.”Just destroying your protection against arbitrary arrest and imprisonment means the bill’s authors Senators Carl Levin of Michigan and John McCain of Arizona don’t have to bother with junking anything else. Once you’re imprisoned you won’t need any other “stinkin’ rights.”

The ACLU charges the provisions of NDAA “were negotiated by a small group of members of Congress, in secret, and without proper congressional review (and), are inconsistent with fundamental American values embodied in the Constitution....(our) fundamental freedoms are on the line.”A few years back, President Carter denounced the Patriot Act for authorizing federal agents “to search people’s homes and businesses secretly, to confiscate property without any deadline or without giving notice that the intrusion had taken place, and to collect without notice personal information on American citizens including their medical histories, books checked out of libraries, and goods they purchase.” The NDAA is far worse than that.



http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28158 (http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2011/12/americas-democratic-dictatorship.html)

I'm glad neither senator from my state voted for it. I think I'm being properly represented, on this issue at least.


Hatha

Twisted Titan
12th December 2011, 03:41 PM
662 Billion

Yet not a clad dime will go to protecting you or me.

All of that money is going to line to pockets of warmongers and sociopaths