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Dogman
5th December 2011, 07:45 AM
Some here, will think this a good thing. :(

By ALAN FARNHAM | ABC News – Wed, Nov 30, 2011



Suicide is on the increase in rural America--nowhere so much as in western mountain states like Idaho, Wyoming and New Mexico. Mental health professionals attribute it in part to cutbacks in Medicaid funding, to the recession and to the culture of the rural West.

In Idaho, somebody kills himself every 35 hours, according to a 2009 report to Idaho's governor by the state's Council on Suicide Prevention. Their report calls suicide "a major public health issue" having a "devastating effect" on Idaho's families, churches, businesses and even schools: 65 students aged 10 and 18 killed themselves in a recent five-year period.

Last week a county sheriff in Bonneville told the Idaho Falls Post Register that his department was getting more suicide calls than in 2010—a year in which 290 Idahoans took their own lives. "We're in a spike right now," he says.

Historically the suicide rate in rural states has been higher than in urban ones. According to the most recent national data available, Alaska has the highest rate, at 24.6 suicides per 100,000 people. Next comes Wyoming (23.3), followed by New Mexico (21.1), Montana (21.0) and Nevada (20.2). Idaho ranks 6th, at 16.5. Suicide is the second-leading cause of death for Idahoans aged 15-34. Only accidents rank higher.

Kathie Garrett, co-chairman of the Idaho Council on Suicide Prevention, says the problem has gotten only worse since the recession. "The poor economy and unemployment—those put a lot of stress on people's lives," she explains. To save money, people skip doctor visits and cut back on taking prescribed medications. Cuts in Medicaid have reduced the services available to the mentally ill.

"I personally know people who lost Medicaid who've attempted suicide," says Garrett.

Reductions in funding have led to the closing of mental health offices, she says. Such closings mean more in Idaho than they would, say, in Manhattan, where a therapist can be found on every block. Before the cuts and closings, somebody in Idaho seeking therapy might have had to drive 160 miles to find it.

Kim Kane, executive director of Idaho's Suicide Prevention Action Network in Idaho says other factors explain the high rate of suicide in western mountain states. One is the greater prevalence of guns: In 2010, 63 percent of Idaho suicides involved a firearm, compared with the national average of 50 percent.

She and Garrett also say the West's pride in rugged individualism can prevent people from seeking help. Their feeling, says Kane, is that they ought to be able to pull themselves up by their mental bootstraps. Idaho is the only state not to have a suicide-prevention hotline.

Garret, who has served in the Idaho legislature, complains state policy-makers don't all view mental illness as an illness—one on a par, say, with glaucoma or pancreatitis. Their belief, she says, is that a person suffering depression ought to be able to get help from church or family, rather than from state-provided professionals. "I told them," she says of her fellow legislators, "that when I had cancer, what I needed was a doctor. My family gave me support. My church gave me faith. But I still needed a surgeon."

Dave Strong, an assessment and referral coordinator for the Eastern Idaho Regional Medical Center, says the people now most at risk, ironically, are not the most severely ill. "Schizophrenics, once they've been diagnosed and qualified by Medicaid, don't fall out of treatment," he says." They're always able to get services."

Rather, it's people suffering the first onset of their disease who have the hardest time getting treatment. With services reduced, the mildly depressed now have to wait until their condition has reached a crisis stage to before they can get medical attention.

"We wait too long now to get treatment to them," said Garrett. "It's like telling somebody with diabetes that he'll have to wait until he's in a coma." People with mental illness, she says, can and do recover. "There's a 60 to 80 percent chance they will. But it takes time. The meds are very tricky: it's not a case of one-size-fits-all." Given that seven years can pass between diagnosis and getting a successful treatment going, it's important, she says, to start early.

It's important, too, "to remind the people reading this that there is always hope. All that anybody feeling suicidal has to do to get help is call the national hotline number. Dial 800-273-TALK (8255)."


http://news.yahoo.com/rural-suicides-medicaid-cuts-204257613.html

JohnWood
5th December 2011, 10:12 AM
Average folks suffer due to austerity measures implemented by the financial elites; while they reap all the rewards. Unreal..

ArgenteumTelum
5th December 2011, 10:53 AM
Part of the population reduction plan.....
If I recall which book ( I believe it was "Secrets of the Federal Reserve") I read, I was stunned to see they had actuaries who predicted/studied the increase in suicides for each 1/4% rise in interest rates. That's all it took to push certain numbers of people over the edge because of their individual financial situations. Remember, this book, if I have recalled correctly, was published well before the deepening slide beginning in 2007/08.

Shorty Harris
5th December 2011, 11:07 AM
Ok? But what is the Murder/Violent Crime rate in the Rural areas of those states as compared to more Urban populated area states? I think that you will find that the untimely death rate is Urban and Suburban areas is Far greater.

Awoke
5th December 2011, 11:16 AM
Average folks suffer due to austerity measures implemented by the financial elites; while they reap all the rewards. Unreal..

Such has always been the plan.

po boy
5th December 2011, 11:20 AM
While sad, the promotion of state intervention as a solution is just as sad and more likely the cause due to all the BS it constantly spews.

po boy
5th December 2011, 11:26 AM
Alan Watt on .gov mind control to promote hopelessness.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x26Q2XUZVwE

Dogman
5th December 2011, 01:07 PM
Ok? But what is the Murder/Violent Crime rate in the Rural areas of those states as compared to more Urban populated area states? I think that you will find that the untimely death rate is Urban and Suburban areas is Far greater.

Murder/Violent Crime rates in rural areas, have always been lower than high density urban areas. The more people you pack into an area the more shit is going to happen, and that is a undeniable proven fact. And low density suburban areas (rural) do have a lot less crime.

Suicide is suicide and that is what the study was about, people killing themselves and not others. Untimely deaths and murders are a whole different category all together.

As the article said, rural people are more isolated physically and also mentally (In general) than urban people. So their problems can be magnified by their isolation. Urban people can find help more easy than rural ones.

Again this is self inflicted injury/death that the study was about. Not people killing or injuring other people.

osoab
5th December 2011, 03:01 PM
I can't deny that there might not be a spike, but this story is lacking.

What are the suicide numbers ytd for both Idaho in general and the sheriff that says he is seeing a spike? What is the criteria for calling it a suicide?

Are the numbers massaged at all to add a certain slant to the story?

Looks to me that this is a heart wrecking story to get more people to think that SS, Medicare, Medicaid, et all need to be increased in funding.

Awoke
6th December 2011, 05:26 AM
Alan Watt on .gov mind control to promote hopelessness.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x26Q2XUZVwE

Tagging. I've got to remember to check this out.

MNeagle
6th December 2011, 08:37 AM
Tagging. I've got to remember to check this out.


Well worth the watch.