Judaism, Christianity, and Freemasonry

[Panoptimist]

Step 1: Freemasonry and Judaism: The Secret Powers Behind Revolution by Vicomte Leon de Poncins (http://www.archive.org/details/FreemasonryAndJudaism)

Step 2: World Revolution: The Plot Against Civilization, The French Revolution: A Study in Democracy, Secret Societies and Subversive Movements
(http://www.archive.org/details/NestaWebster)
Step 3: Freemasonry and The Vatican: Struggle for Recognition (http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5116885)

(http://www.archive.org/details/FreemasonryAndJudaism)Step 4: Judaism and the Vatican (http://www.archive.org/details/FreemasonryAndJudaism)


Constitution not what you thought it was? Cry your heart out.

[Awoke]

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[po boy]

Constitution not what you thought it was? Cry your heart out.

What would you suggest it be replaced with?

[Panoptimist]

What would you suggest it be replaced with?

I suggest you read Dostoievsky's Diary. There's no point in my espousing my personal beliefs only to have them torn asunder by some half a faggot who doesn't read or study.

Of course, you're the exact type of person that won't heed my suggestion, yet are still more than glad to offer your opinion.

There's no point in suggesting anything to people like you. You aren't going to do the work, you aren't going to put in the time, and you aren't going to reexamine your own preconceived notions.

You're one of the worst on here.

Of course, without people actually contributing anything worthwhile, people like you and Horn wouldn't have much of reason for your presence, would you?

[JDRock]

NEVER,-EVER have masons,satanists and jews GAVE power up-EVER! the notion that the founding fathers were secret masons is such bullshit. REEEAALLY they resisted a centralized bank-thats a sure sign they were part of the nwo! they GUARANTEED the right of common men to arm themselves with the best most advanced weapons of the day-yeah THATS a SURE sign of meglomanics...bullshit, all of it, bullshit.

[Joe King]

I suggest you read Dostoievsky's Diary. There's no point in my espousing my personal beliefs only to have them torn asunder by some half a faggot who doesn't read or study.Mighty strong words for someone who trys to tear others personal beliefs asunder.
ie your constant attack and belittlement of the Constitution and those who support it as written and intended.....and now a personal attack along with it.

BTW, what exactly is a "half a faggot"? You must like yours whole, I guess. lol




Of course, you're the exact type of person that won't heed my suggestion, yet are still more than glad to offer your opinion.

There's no point in suggesting anything to people like you. You aren't going to do the work, you aren't going to put in the time, and you aren't going to reexamine your own preconceived notions.

You're one of the worst on here.

Of course, without people actually contributing anything worthwhile, people like you and Horn wouldn't have much of reason for your presence, would you?What's the reason for your presence?

[iOWNme]

I have a book that says aliens came here from planet pop tart. Will you read it?

The ENTIRE history of man has been altered, and now you have the answers?

Judaism = Freemasonry

Both are diametrically opposed to REAL Christianity. Take Judaism/Freemasonry and flip it 180* degrees, and you have Christianity.

I am going to download these and read them, as i READ EVERYTHING and trust no one. Unless i can prove it with my own research.

[Panoptimist]

NEVER,-EVER have masons,satanists and jews GAVE power up-EVER! the notion that the founding fathers were secret masons is such bullshit. REEEAALLY they resisted a centralized bank-thats a sure sign they were part of the nwo! they GUARANTEED the right of common men to arm themselves with the best most advanced weapons of the day-yeah THATS a SURE sign of meglomanics...bullshit, all of it, bullshit.

Founding fathers secret masons? It's no secret...

http://0.tqn.com/d/dc/1/0/g/w/freemason.jpg

Mainstream historians deny that Jefferson himself was pledged into the masonic brotherhood, but many masons themselves have decided that it's inconclusive. And he certainly kept company with them, his grave is marked by an obelisk (classic masonic symbol). Here's a masonic writer on Jefferson's masonic history: http://srjarchives.tripod.com/1998-03/beless.htm Draw your own conclusions.

[iOWNme]

Founding fathers secret masons? It's no secret...

http://0.tqn.com/d/dc/1/0/g/w/freemason.jpg

Mainstream historians deny that Jefferson himself was pledged into the masonic brotherhood, but many masons themselves have decided that it's inconclusive. And he certainly kept company with them, his grave is marked by an obelisk (classic masonic symbol). Here's a masonic writer on Jefferson's masonic history: http://srjarchives.tripod.com/1998-03/beless.htm Draw your own conclusions.


You do realize that Masonry was infiltrated by the occult Illuminist, right? I mean Washington even wrote about the Illuminati and how they had infiltrated it.

You dont just take these things at face value do you? World events are multi-layered with many dimensions.

[JDRock]

right.....thats NOT a picture, pano.......whos to say he was even alive when that was finnished?
WHY were his actions the REVERSE of the stated goals of judaic masonry??
ACTIONS not cheap 'paintings" which cant be verified....ACTIONS...

[Panoptimist]

BTW, what exactly is a "half a faggot"? You must like yours whole, I guess. lol



What's the reason for your presence?

Damn right I like mine whole! Exactly what I was saying!


Haha, I admit, I shouldn't even be here. I originally came to learn more about precious metals and the metals market and how/what to buy. But while some people collect coins, play video games, build elaborate train sets, one of my hobbies has become, probably for worse, "conspiracy theories." I find it interesting, that's all. I'm going to stop posting as when I get into this it only drags me down and makes me feel bad. I just keep getting sucked back in. My threads will get pushed back and I won't contribute anymore material and leave you guys to it. I'm not better than anyone else, and shouldn't act like it.

[po boy]

Mighty strong words for someone who trys to tear others personal beliefs asunder.
ie your constant attack and belittlement of the Constitution and those who support it as written and intended.....and now a personal attack along with it.

BTW, what exactly is a "half a faggot"? You must like yours whole, I guess. lol



What's the reason for your presence?
Half a faggot I would guess would be a hetero as it would take 2 to tango. Never did get a response if Pan was leaving the masonic America for russia.

I suspect he is a disgruntled young college grad dissatisfied with his burdensome student loans and no useful skills living with his wanna be actress be girlfriend with his dreams of a capecode in the west shattered.

Quite possible another of the consented to be governed crowd so the constitution is trash crowd.

Oh well.

[Panoptimist]

right.....thats NOT a picture, pano.......whos to say he was even alive when that was finnished?
WHY were his actions the REVERSE of the stated goals of judaic masonry??
ACTIONS not cheap 'paintings" which cant be verified....ACTIONS...

Ugh. Straight from the horse's mouth: http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/gw_as_a_freemason_litho.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington_Masonic_National_Memorial

http://www.pagrandlodge.org/mlam/apron/


Don't be useless.

[Panoptimist]

Half a faggot I would guess would be a hetero as it would take 2 to tango. Never did get a response if Pan was leaving the masonic America for russia.

I suspect he is a disgruntled young college grad dissatisfied with his burdensome student loans and no useful skills living with his wanna actress be girlfriend with his dreams of a capecode in the west shattered.

Quite possible another of the consented to be governed crowd so the constitution is trash crowd.

Oh well.

Pretty much hit the nail on the head, didn't you? :P

My boat to Moscow leaves Monday.

[Panoptimist]

You do realize that Masonry was infiltrated by the occult Illuminist, right? I mean Washington even wrote about the Illuminati and how they had infiltrated it.

Weishaupt? What about him? The illuminati are illuminated freemasons...what's your point? Infiltrated?

[po boy]

Pretty much hit the nail on the head, didn't you? :P

My boat to Moscow leaves Monday.

I hope all goes well for you.

[Horn]

Occult creation, It was a Red Tie Mormon event.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrOeGWMQAfQ

Reading this thread, you can see why seperation of Church and State was required, to go any further.

[JDRock]

Ugh. Straight from the horse's mouth: http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/gw_as_a_freemason_litho.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington_Masonic_National_Memorial

http://www.pagrandlodge.org/mlam/apron/


Don't be useless.

pano reffers us to to jewish wiki and 2 masonic sites to prove that the founding fathers who proved by their deeds (except hamiltion) they were ANTI occultic in every way......kinda funny pano...

[Horn]

Hamilton, an obvious Redcoat implant.


THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY, having perused with attention the papers
containing the opinion of the secretary of state and attorney general
concerning the constitutionality of the bill for establishing a national
bank, proceeds, according to the order of the President, to submit the
reasons which have induced him to entertain a different opinion...


http://www.member.tripod.com/~american_almanac/forbank.htm

[D sciple]

http://jahtruth.net/plan.htm

THE FRAUD OF MAN-MADE CONSTITUTIONS

Most patriots are focusing all their efforts on protecting, defending, and restoring the 1787/1789 Constitution for the united States of America (as compared to the 1871 U.S. [Inc.] Constitution, for the District of Columbia), but few if any realize what a fruitless exercise that is, especially when they are labouring under the false belief that these or any man-made Constitution keeps, or is even based on, God's Laws. Most people are unaware that the constitution was given to them by the people of the New World Order in order to distract, deflect, and keep them away from God's Law. The Hidden Hand never could have set up the New World Order if God's Law was in force, so they had to put in the Constitution. They've written all these nice speeches*, that sound very noble, but the whole thing is to keep people away from God's Laws. If people had kept God's Laws, then there would be no New World Order; there would have been no Ruby Ridge, no Waco, no Sand Point, Idaho - all of these things (and the very real prospect of more of the same in the future), none of these things would have happened.

*Protocol 5, #8: "In all ages the people of the world, equally with individuals, have accepted words for deeds, for they are content with a show and rarely pause to note, in the public arena, whether promises are followed by performance. Therefore we shall establish show institutions which will give eloquent proof of their benefit to progress."

Leviticus 25:10 And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubile unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family.

A perfect illustration of deeds not following "show" words and symbols, is the Liberty Bell. The united States of America claim to be the land of the free, and a portion of the above Torah quotation was inscribed on their Liberty Bell: "Proclaim liberty throughout the land unto all the inhabitants thereof." Conveniently for themselves and their NWO bosses, the authors of the constitution omitted the rest of The Law, and this partial quotation was/is only propaganda, paying lip-service to appear noble, while disguising the fact that in practice the government acts in opposition to God's Law. The partial Bible reference from Leviticus is written on the Liberty Bell, but neither is it, nor its principle, written anywhere in the constitution. The Law says that every 50 years shall be a jubile year, which includes all debts being canceled, and every Israelite's possessions restored to them. It has been 212 years since the 1789 ratification of the constitution, which means if The Law was being kept, and the American people were doing what God wants them to do, then there should have been jubile years in: 1839, 1889, 1939, and 1989, in which all debts were canceled, right? Were YOUR debts canceled, and your possessions restored to you in 1989? It is therefore not surprising that the Liberty Bell is cracked and will not ring.

What we're really up against as far as the New World Order is concerned, is that Satan gets the New World Order and his politicians, who are all part of that, to make up rules and regulations to prevent people from doing what God wants them to do, and they make up other rules in order to force people to do things that God doesn't want them to do, in order to control the people. The tragic situations at Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc. were the result of people doing it wrong. Your enemies claim authority from the constitution, and justification from their legislation for their criminal actions. The only way to defeat the New World Order, and it is the ONLY way to defeat the New World Order, is to get rid of all their legislation and go back to God's Laws.

You should read the full text of the Protocols to learn of your enemy's master plan for your enslavement and destruction, and how "constitutions" fit into that plan, but since it may not become immediately obvious to you, further explanation is probably necessary to point out just where the American and ALL other government "constitutions" have come from - written by the Hidden Hand, as part of their devious Satanic plot of world control and domination.

Protocol 10, #10: "Liberalism produced Constitutional States, which took the place of what was the only safeguard of the goyim, namely, Despotism (Deut. 17:14-20); and a constitution, as you well know, is nothing else but a school of discords, misunderstandings, quarrels, disagreements, fruitless party agitations, party whims - in a word, a school of everything that serves to destroy the personality of State activity... Then it was that the era of republics became a possibility that could be realised, and then it was that we replaced the ruler by a caricature of a government - by a president, taken from the mob..."
Protocol 3, #2: "The constitution scales of these days will shortly break down, for we have established them with a certain lack of accurate balance in order that they may oscillate incessantly until they wear through the pivot on which they turn. The goyim are under the impression that they have welded them sufficiently strong and they have all along kept on expecting that the scales would come into equilibrium. But the pivots - the kings on their thrones (Deut. 17:14-20) - are hemmed in by their representatives, who play the fool, distraught with their own uncontrolled and irresponsible power."
Protocol 10, #8: "Under various names there exists, in ALL countries, approximately one and the same thing: Representation; Ministry; Senate; State Council; Legislative and Executive Corps. These institutions have divided up among themselves all the functions of government - administrative; legislative; executive*; wherefore they have come to operate as do the organs in the human body. If we injure one part in the machinery of State, the State falls sick, like a human body, and ...will die."
*United States constitution- 3 branches: President (executive), Congress [House & Senate] (legislative), and Supreme Court, U.S. Courts of Appeal, & U.S. District Courts (judicial).
*State constitutions - 3 branches: Governor (executive); State Assembly & Senate (legislative); and State Supreme Court, State Court of Appeals, & State Administrative Courts (judicial).

If you believe that your rights come from men who write constitutions, then you have to believe your rights can be taken away by men in those same positions of power, whereas if you believe (as you should) that your rights come from God, then only God can take them away. In this section is a side-by-side comparison which highlights just five of the many possible differences between God's Laws, and the United States Constitution, and the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. You will probably not be surprised to learn that The Protocols are the complete and exact opposite* of God's Laws, but you may be very surprised to discover that the American Constitution is also in OPPOSITION* to God's Laws, and in HARMONY with The (Satanic) Protocols. That really shouldn't be too surprising when you take into account the fact that most of America's "founding fathers" were masons, and that the Masonic Lodge had been infiltrated by (Illuminati founder) Adam Weishaupt in 1777; had been taken over by the Hidden Hand, before the American Constitutional Convention of 1787, and is still to this day under complete control and direction of the Hidden Hand.

* The word/name "Satan" is Hebrew, and means "The OPPOSER". After reading the full text of The Protocols, you should also realize that no man or group of men, on their own, are capable of conceiving them. The hand of evil men may have written them out, and taken the credit, but of ideas so sinister and a plan so devious, the true author who dictated them into their minds could only be: The Opposer, Satan.

The following two paragraphs are based on the research of Stephen Ames, to explain the Hidden Truth of exactly why the American Constitution came into being.





On September 17, 1787 twelve State delegates approved the Constitution for the united States of America, and the States became the Constitutors. What is the legal definition of the term, "constitutor"? A Constitutor: In the civil law, one who, by simple agreement, becomes responsible for the payment of another's debt. (Blacks Law Dictionary 6th Ed.) The States were now liable for the United States debt owed to the King of England, but the people of America were not yet liable, because they were not a party to the Constitution since it was never put to them for a vote. On August 4, 1790 an Act was passed that, for all intents and purposes abolished the States and created Federal Districts. In this Act each District was assigned a portion of the debt. Then the states reorganized their governments, which had to be done because the States needed to "legally" (under men's laws) transfer the bonded obligation for debt repayment from the states to the people. The original State Constitutions were never submitted to the people for a vote, so the governments wrote new constitutions and submitted them to the people for a vote, thereby binding the people to the debts owed to Great Britain. Once again, deception is used to get the people to unknowingly volunteer into bondage.






Because of the general disinformation surrounding the American Revolutionary War (1775-1781) promoted by the Hidden Hand in their publishing/education/media apparatus, most American patriots automatically revere the men who led that apparent rebellion against Great Britain, and established the united States of America as a separate nation. What people do not know is that the so called "founding fathers" and king George (remember the king or queen of England is a member of the Hidden Hand) were working hand-in-hand to bring the people of America to their knees, to install a Central Government (see Protocol 5, #1 below) over them and to bind them to a debt that could not be paid. This is not to say that ALL the key men of that era were knowingly among the greedy, evil conspirators, but it appears that most were. One example of a possible exception is Patrick Henry who, when told of the proposed federal Constitution, is reported to have said, "I smell a rat."

The American Revolutionary War, at least to give the appearance of separating from Great Britain, was necessary to fulfill Jacob's blessing/prophecy to his grandson, Manasseh (Gen. 48:19), although the participants were not consciously acting to that end, but the American "founding fathers" did miss a genuine opportunity to start fresh and forget and depart (2Tim. 2:19) from the failed & unjust ways of men's laws, edicts, and decrees, that their ancestors had fled from in England, and instate God's Laws as the Law of the Land of their new nation, as the pilgrims on the Mayflower had begun. Instead, they were influenced by their human egos, greed, and the Hidden Hand's masonic tenets to draft and implement a man-made constitution. Ironically, the name Manasseh is a Hebrew word that means "forgetting, or making forget" (Gen. 41:51).

Deuteronomy 4:5 Behold, I have taught you Statutes and Judgments, even as the "I AM" my God commanded me, that ye should do so in the land where ye go to possess it.
4:6 KEEP therefore and DO [them]; for this [is] your Wisdom and your Understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these Statutes, and say, Surely this great nation [is] a wise and understanding people.
4:7 For what nation [is there so] great, who [hath] God [so] near to them, as the "I AM" our God [is] in all [things that] we call upon Him [for]?
4:8 And what nation [is there so] great, that hath Statutes and Judgments [so] Righteous as all this Law, which I set before you this day?

FRAUD # 1: Man-Made Legislation
The Law
Deuteronomy 4:1 Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the Statutes and unto the Judgments, which I teach you, for to DO [them], that ye may LIVE, and go in and possess the land which the "I AM" God of your fathers giveth you.
4:2 Ye shall not ADD unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the Commandments of the "I AM" your God which I COMMAND you.
United States Constitution
Article. 1., Section 1. All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.
Article. 1., Section 7. Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a law, be presented to the President of the United States: If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated,... If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it,...
Article. 1., Section 3. The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.
The Protocols
5, #1: "...We shall create an intensified centralisation of government in order to grip in our hands all the forces of the community. We shall regulate mechanically all the actions of the political life of our subjects by new laws. These laws will withdraw one by one all the indulgences and liberties which have been permitted by the goyim..."
11, #1: "The State Council has been, as it were, the emphatic expression of the authority of the ruler: it will be, as the "show" part of the Legislative Corps, what may be called the editorial committee of the laws and decrees of the ruler."
11, #2: "This, then, is the program of the new constitution. We shall make Law, Right and Justice (1) in the guise of proposals to the Legislative Corps; (2) by decrees of the president under the guise of general regulations, of orders of the Senate and of resolutions of the State Council in the guise of ministerial orders; (3) and in case a suitable occasion should arise - in the form of a revolution in the State."

FRAUD # 2: Politics / Political Parties
The Law
Deuteronomy 28:14 And thou shalt not go aside from any of the Words which I command thee this day, [to] the right hand (right-wing politics), or [to] the left (left-wing politics), to go after other gods to serve them.
United States Constitution
Article 1., Section 2. The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.
Article 1., Section 3. The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature* thereof, for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote.
*Amendment 17. The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote...
Article. 2., Section 1. The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected,...
The Protocols
1, #6: "Political freedom is an idea but not a fact. This idea one must know how to apply whenever it appears necessary with this bait of an idea to attract the masses of the people to one's party for the purpose of crushing another who is in authority. This task is rendered easier if the opponent has himself been infected with the idea of freedom, so-called liberalism, and, for the sake of an idea, is willing to yield some of his power..."
1, #10: "...Men in masses and the men of the masses, being guided solely by petty passions, paltry beliefs, traditions and sentimental theorems, fall a prey to party dissension, which hinders any kind of agreement even on the basis of a perfectly reasonable argument. Every resolution of a crowd depends upon a chance or packed majority, which, in its ignorance of political secrets, puts forth some ridiculous resolution that lays in the administration a seed of anarchy."
1, #11: "The political has nothing in common with the moral. The ruler who is governed by the moral is not a skilled politician, and is therefore unstable on his throne. He who wishes to rule must have recourse both to cunning and to make-believe. Great national qualities, like frankness and honesty, are vices in politics, for they bring down rulers from their thrones more effectively and more certainly than the most powerful enemy. Such qualities must be the attributes of the kingdoms of the goyim, but we must in no wise be guided by them."
1, #23: "In politics one must know how to seize the property of others without hesitation if by it we secure submission and sovereignty."
1, #29: "It is this possibility of replacing (through elections) the representatives of the people which has placed at our disposal, and, as it were, given us the power of appointment."

FRAUD # 3: Usury
The Law
Deuteronomy 15:6 For the "I AM" thy God blesseth thee, as He promised thee: and thou shalt lend unto many nations, but thou shalt not borrow; and thou shalt reign over many nations, but they shall not reign over thee [if ye keep The Covenant].
United States Articles of Confederation
Article 9., Section 5. The United States in Congress assembled shall have authority... to borrow money, or emit bills on the credit of the United States,...
United States Constitution
Article 1., Section 8. The Congress shall have Power... To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;...
The Protocols
20, #29: Every kind of loan proves infirmity in the State and a want of understanding of the rights of the State. Loans hang like a sword of Damocles over the heads of rulers, who, instead of taking from their subjects by a temporary tax, come begging with outstretched palm of our bankers. Foreign loans are leeches which there is no possibility of removing from the body of the State, until they fall off of themselves, or the State flings them off. But the goy States do not tear them off; they go on in persisting in putting more on to themselves so that they must inevitably perish, drained by voluntary blood-letting.
20, #36: How clear is the undeveloped power of thought of the purely brute brains of the goyim, as expressed in the fact that they have been borrowing from us, with payment of interest, without ever thinking that all the same these very moneys, plus an addition for payment of interest, must be got by them from their own State pockets in order to settle up with us. What could have been simpler than to take the money they wanted from their own people?
20, #37: But it is a proof of the genius of our chosen mind that we have contrived to present the matter of loans to them in such a light that they have even seen in them an advantage for themselves.

FRAUD # 4: Changeability to the whims of men
The Law
Deuteronomy 7:9 Know therefore that the "I AM" thy God, He [is] God, the faithful God, which keepeth Covenant and mercy with them that love Him and keep His Commandments to a thousand generations;
Deuteronomy 29:29 The secret [things belong] unto the "I AM" our God: but those [things which are] revealed [belong] unto us and to our children for ever, that [we] may do all the words of this Law.
Malachi 3:6 For I [am] the "I AM", I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
3:7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from Mine Ordinances, and have not kept [them]. Return unto Me, and I will return unto you, saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts.
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy The Law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no way pass from The Law, till all be fulfilled.
United States Constitution
Article. 5. The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress;...
Amendment 18. Section. 1. After one year from the ratification of this article the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited. (Ratified Jan 16, 1919)
Amendment 21. Section. 1. The eighteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed (this Amendment repealed Amendment 18). (Ratified Dec 5, 1933)
The Protocols
10, #16: The president will, at our discretion, interpret the sense of such of the existing laws as admit of various interpretation; he will further annul them when we indicate to him the necessity to do so, besides this, he will have the right to propose temporary laws, and even new departures in the government constitutional working, the pretext, both for the one and the other, being the requirements for the supreme welfare of the State.
11, #3: Having established approximately the modus agendi, we will occupy ourselves with details of those combinations by which we have still to complete the revolution in the course of the machinery of State in the direction already indicated. By 'those combinations', I mean the freedom of the Press; the right of association; freedom of conscience; the voting principle; and many another that must disappear for ever from the memory of man, or undergo a radical alteration the day after the promulgation of the new constitution..."

FRAUD # 5: Women given a voice and positions of power in government
The Law
Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman He said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be subject] to thy husband, and HE SHALL RULE OVER THEE.
3:17 And unto Adam He said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I COMMANDED thee, saying, Thou shalt NOT eat of it: cursed [is] the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat [of] it all the days of thy life (Eno. 96:12-13);
Enoch 96:12 I have sworn to you, ye sinners, that neither mountain nor hill has been nor should be a servant to woman (Gen. 3:16-17 - women's liberation CONDEMNED).
96:13 Neither in this way has your crime been sent down upon Earth (1st COMMANDMENT), but men of their own heads have invented it; and greatly shall those who give it (women's liberation) efficiency be CURSED.
96:14 Barrenness (infertility) shall not be previously inflicted on woman; but on account of the work of her hands shall she die childless (as a punishment - Deut. 28:18).
1Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God.
11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover [his] head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
11:8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
11:9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
11:10 For this cause ought the woman to have a covering on her head, as a sign that she is under the power of her husband because of the angels.
1Corinthians 14:33 For God is NOT [the author] of CONFUSION, but of peace, as in all communities of the holy people.
14:34 Let your women keep silence in the communities: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith The Law.
14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a disgrace for women to speak in the community.
14:36 What? Came the word of God out from you? Or came it unto you only?
14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the Commandments of the Lord.
United States Constitution
Amendment 19. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
The Protocols
10, #4: "Voting; which we have made the instrument which will set us on the throne of the world, by teaching even the very smallest units of members of the human race to vote, by means of meetings and agreements by groups; will then have served its purposes and will play its part then, for the last time, by a unanimity of desire to make close acquaintances with us before condemning us."
10, #5: "To secure this we must have everybody vote without distinction of classes and qualifications, in order to establish an absolute majority, which cannot be got from the educated propertied classes. In this way, by inculcating in all a sense of self-importance (like everyone being a Sovereign Citizen), we shall destroy among the goyim the importance of the family and its educational value and remove the possibility of individual minds splitting off, for the mob, handled by us, will not let them come to the front, nor even give them a hearing; it is accustomed to listen only to us who pay it for obedience and attention. In this way we shall create a blind, mighty force, which will never be in a position to move in any direction, without the guidance of our agents, set at its head, by us, as leaders of the mob. The people will submit to this regime, because it will know, that upon these leaders will depend its earnings, gratifications and the receipt of all kinds of benefits."

Note: The book, "The Way home or face The Fire" goes into great detail exactly WHY it is so important to Satan's plan to get women into as many positions of power as possible.

[po boy]

I suggest you read Dostoievsky's Diary. There's no point in my espousing my personal beliefs only to have them torn asunder by some half a faggot who doesn't read or study.

Of course, you're the exact type of person that won't heed my suggestion, yet are still more than glad to offer your opinion.

There's no point in suggesting anything to people like you. You aren't going to do the work, you aren't going to put in the time, and you aren't going to reexamine your own preconceived notions.

You're one of the worst on here.

Of course, without people actually contributing anything worthwhile, people like you and Horn wouldn't have much of reason for your presence, would you?

Ole boy is kind of an interesting cat, seems like a lil time in the clink got him thinking bout life and God. Maybe try a stint and who knows maybe you'll humble down sell some books and do some plays with the misses. Then the cape in the rockies?

[Bigjon]

http://www.library.flawlesslogic.com/dost.htm

Dostoievsky On the Jews
Dr. William Pierce
Feodor M. Dostoievsky (1821-1881) was one of Russia's greatest writers. The son of a physician of modest means, he had the opportunity for an education, and was trained as an engineer. He remained close to the common people of Russia, however, in the experiences of his life and in his writing.

Dostoievsky was a fervent patriot, but his association with a circle of radical writers led to his arrest at the age of 27. He was subsequently sentenced to death, reprieved at the last minute, and transported to Siberia, where he spent four years in a prison labor camp. This was followed by several years as a private in a Siberian unit in the Russian army.

After his return from Siberia Dostoievsky wrote a number of novels, including Crime and Punishment (1866), The Idiot (1868), The Possessed (1871), and The Brothers Karamazov (1880), all of which enjoyed immense popularity. It was his Diary of a Writer, however, published in a number of installments in the period 1873-1881 which most explicitly stated his feeling for his people and for Russia.

Dostoievsky's Diary dealt with a great many issues of burning interest to his fellow countrymen, showing clearly the insight and sensitivity which made him one of the most beloved of all the great writers Russia has produced. Boris Brasol, who translated Diary of a Writer into English, has described the reaction of the Russian people to Dostoievsky's death on February 9th, 1881:
The news of Dostoievsky's passing spread instantly, like an electric current, to the remotest parts of Russia, and a wave of mourning swept through the hearts of her saddened people... Enormous crowds attended his funeral: men and women from all walks of life -- statesmen of high rank and downtrodden prostitutes; illiterate peasants and distinguished men of letters; army officers and learned scientists; credulous priests and incredulous students -- they were all there.

Whom did Russia bury with so great a reverence? Was it only one of her famous men of letters? Indeed not: in that coffin lay a noble and lofty man, a prudent teacher, an inspired prophet whose thoughts, like mountain peaks, were always pointed toward heaven, and who had measured the depths of man's quivering heart with all its struggles, sins, and tempests; its riddles, pains, and sorrows; its unseen tears and burning passions....
As much as his people loved him, Dostoievsky in turn loved them -- and despised their enemies and exploiters. Foremost among the latter were the Jews of Russia. In Dostoievsky's time there were some three million of them, some descended from the Khazars, an Asiatic tribe of southern Russia which had converted to Judaism a millennium earlier, and some who had flocked into Russia from the West during the Middle Ages, when they were forcibly expelled from every country in western and central Europe.

Scorning honest labor, the Jews had fastened themselves on the Russian peasants and craftsmen like an army of leeches. Money-lending, the liquor trade, and White slavery were their preferred means of support -- and their means of destroying the Russian people.

So great was the Russians' hate for their Jewish tormenters that the Russian rulers were obliged to institute special legislation, both protecting the Jews and limiting their depredations against the Russian people. Among the latter was a ban against Jewish settlement in central Russia; they were restricted to the regions of western and southwestern Russia (the "Pale of Settlement") where they had been most heavily concentrated at the time Catherine the Great had proclaimed the ban, in the 18th century.

This, of course, was regarded by the Jews as "persecution," and it was their incessant wailing about not being allowed to fasten themselves on the people of central Russia which first moved Dostoievsky to set his pen to paper on the Jewish question. In the section of his Diary published in March 1877, the writer remarked:
... I know that in the whole world there is certainly no other people who would be complaining as much about their lot, incessantly, after each step and word of theirs -- about their humiliation, their suffering, their martyrdom. One might think it is not they who are reigning in Europe, who are directing there at least the stock exchanges and, therefore, politics, domestic affairs, the morality of the states.
Dostoievsky, who had become all too familiar with Jews and their personal attitudes toward their Russian hosts, first as a boy on his parent's small estate, where he observed the Jew's dealings with the local peasants, and later in prison, where he noted the aloof behavior of the Jewish prisoners toward Russian prisoners, went on to speculate about what would happen to the Russians if the Jews ever got the whiphand:
... Now, how would it be if in Russia there were not three million Jews, but three million Russians, and there were eighty million Jews -- well, into what would they convert the Russians and how would they treat them? Would they permit them to acquire equal rights? Would they permit them to worship freely in their midst? Wouldn't they convert them into slaves? Worse than that: wouldn't they skin them altogether? Wouldn't they slaughter them to the last man, to the point of complete extermination, as they used to do with aliens in ancient times, during their ancient history?
This speculation turned out to be grimly prophetic, for only a little more than four decades later bloodthirsty Jewish commissars, who made up the bulk of the Bolshevik leaders, were supervising the butchering of Russians by the millions.

Dostoievsky correctly identified the secret of the Jews' strength -- indeed, of their very survival over a period of 40 centuries -- as their exclusiveness, their deeply ingrained mental outlook upon the whole non-Jewish world as an alien, inferior, and hostile thing. This outlook led the Jews to always think of themselves as having a special situation or standing. Even when they were trying most ingratiatingly to convince the non-Jews that Jews were just like everyone else, they maintained the inner attitude of a people who constituted a special community within the larger, Gentile community. Dostoievsky pointed out:
... It is possible to outline, at least, certain symptoms of that status in statu -- be it only externally. These symptoms are: alienation and estrangement in the matter of religious dogma; the impossibility of fusion; belief that in the world there exists but one national entity, the Jew, while, even though other entities exist, nevertheless, it should be presumed that they are, as it were, nonexistent. 'Step out of the family of nations and form your own entity, and thou shalt know that henceforth thou art the only one before God; exterminate the rest, or make slaves of them. Have faith in the conquest of the whole world; adhere to the belief that everything will submit to thee. Loathe strictly everything, and do not have intercourse with anyone in thy mode of living. And even when thou shalt lose the land, thy political individuality, even when thou shalt be dispersed all over the face of the earth, amidst all nations -- never mind, have faith in everything that has been promised thee, once and forever; believe that all this will come to pass, and meanwhile live, loathe, unite, and exploit -- and wait, wait ....
Is it any wonder that, although virtually every American with a high school education has either read Dostoievsky's Crime and Punishment or his The Brothers Karamazov (or both), his Diary of a Writer has been quietly consigned to oblivion by the controlled educational and publishing establishments in this country? The only printing of Diary of a Writer currently listed in Books in Print is one issued by a small, specialty publisher (Octagon Books) for sale to libraries and priced at a prohibitive $47.50. That price tag ought to keep it safely out of the hands of curious American readers!

Those fortunate enough to be able to borrow a copy of the book can read a great many more of Dostoievsky's penetrating comments on the behavior of and attitude of the Jews in Russia toward the Russian people during the 19th century. Dostoievsky especially condemned the exploitation of the poor, ignorant, and helpless Russian peasants by the voraciously greedy and utterly heartless Jews. For example:
Thus, Jewry is thriving precisely there where the people are still ignorant, or not free, or economically backward. It is there that Jewry has a champ libre. And instead of raising, by its influence, the level of education, instead of increasing knowledge, generating economic fitness in the native population -- instead of this the Jew, wherever he has settled, has still more humiliated and debauched the people; there humaneness was still more debased and the educational level fell still lower; there inescapable, inhuman misery, and with it despair, spread still more disgustingly. Ask the native population in our border regions: What is propelling the Jew -- and has been propelling him for centuries? You will receive a unanimous answer: mercilessness. 'He has been prompted so many centuries only by pitilessness to us, only by the thirst for our sweat and blood.'

And, in truth, the whole activity of the Jews in these border regions of ours consisted of rendering the native population as much as possible inescapably dependent on them, taking advantage of the local laws. They have always managed to be on friendly terms with those upon whom the people were dependent. Point to any other tribe from among Russian aliens which could rival the Jew by his dreadful influence in this connection! You will find no such tribe. In this respect the Jew preserves all his originality as compared with other Russian aliens, and of course, the reason therefore is that status of statu of his, that spirit of which specifically breathes pitilessness for everything that is not Jew, with disrespect for any people and tribe, for every human creature who is not a Jew....

Now, what if somehow, for some reason, our rural commune [i.e., the institutionalized system of Russian peasant society] should disintegrate, that commune which is protecting our poor native peasant against so many ills; what if, straightaway, the Jew and his whole kehillah [i.e., organized Jewry] should fall upon that liberated peasant -- so inexperienced, so incapable of resisting temptation, and who up to this time has been guarded precisely by the commune? Why, of course, instantly this would be his end; his entire property, his whole strength, the very next day would come under the power of the Jew, and there would ensue such an era as can be compared not only with the era of serfdom but even with that of the Tartar yoke.
Again, how tragically prophetic!



National Vanguard, Issue no. 72, 1979. This article was transcribed by William Wilson from The Best of Attack and National Vanguard 1970-1982, edited by Kevin Alfred Strom, copyright 1984 National Vanguard Books, Box 330, Hillsboro WV 24946 USA.

[Bigjon]

http://www.scribd.com/doc/30365173/Dostoievsky

Feodor Dostoievsky on the coming Jewish "complete reign"
The following is an extract from Dostoievsky's non-fiction work The Diary of a
Writer, published serially from 1871 to 1873.
He writes of Christianity in a civilizational, rather than a doctrinal, sense; as

does Israel Shamir.
THE DIARY OF A WRITER
F. M. DOSTOIEVSKY
TRANSLATED AND ANNOTATED BY BORIS BRASOL
New York GEORGE BRAZILLER 1954
{p. 630} FEODOR DOSTOIEVSKY: 1877 ...

Many people, in a purely Western fashion, began to see in the Church nothing but
dead formalism, segregation, ritualism, and starting with the end of the past
century - even prejudice and hypocrisy: the spirit, the idea, the living force was
forgotten. There appeared economic conceptions of the Western pattern, new
political doctrines, new morality which sought to correct and supersede the former
one. Finally, science made its appearance, and it could not help but introduce
disbelief in the former ideas. ... Besides, in the peoples of the East there began
to awaken pre-eminently national ideas: suddenly there arose a fear that, after
having shaken off the Turkish yoke, they would fall under the yoke of Russia.

However, among the many millions of our common people and in their czars the idea
of the liberation of the East and of the Church of Christ was never dead. The
movement which seized the Russian people last summer proved that they forgot
nothing of their ancient hopes and beliefs; it even surprised the overwhelming
mass of our intelligentsia to such an extent that they adopted a skeptical and
scoffing attitude toward it, assuring everybody - and above all themselves - that
the movement was invented and counterfeited by disreputable men who were seeking
to come to the forefront to occupy a showy place.

Indeed, who, in our day, among our intelligentsia - save a small portion of it
which detached itself from the general chorus - could admit that our people are
capable of consciously comprehending their political, social and ethical mission?
How could it be conceived that this coarse common mass, which only recently was
kept in bondage and which now half-killed itself with vodka, knew and was
convinced that its destiny was to serve Christ, and that of its Czar - to guard
the Christian faith and to liberate Orthodoxy ? "Even though this mass always
called itself Christian, nevertheless it has no conception of either religion or
even Christ; it knows not even the most ordinary prayers." This is what is usually
being said about our people. Who is saying this ? You think - a German pastor who
has organized our Stundism; or a travelling European; a correspondent of a
political newspaper; or some educated top Jew, from among those who do not believe
in God and of whom suddenly nowadays so many have been propagated in our midst;
or, finally, one of those Russians residing abroad who pictures to himself Russia
and her people not otherwise than in

{p. 631} the guise of a drunken peasant woman with a square bottle in her hand ? - Oh, no ! Thus thinks an enormous part of our Russian, very best society. Yet they do not suspect that even though our people do not know prayers, nevertheless the essence of Christianity, its spirit and truth, are conserved and fortified in them despite their vices - as strongly as, perhaps, in no other people in the world.

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[Panoptimist]

Here's a thread I made on him: http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?56318-F.M.-Dostoievsky-%28Notes-amp-Excerpts%29

Maybe you'll want to add that material there. No one seemed interested in it, however.

[MAGNES]

Here's a thread I made on him: http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?56318-F.M.-Dostoievsky-%28Notes-amp-Excerpts%29

Maybe you'll want to add that material there. No one seemed interested in it, however.
The Orthodox Nationalist (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?56195-The-Orthodox-Nationalist)


Good Post. Very good source of history.

Pro Western, Pro European, Pro Freedom

There is still some students here.

Why don't you post about your old avatar and the history.

This place could use it.

BTW, one of the founders of VOR posts here.

And what exactly is a Panoptimist ?

Thanks for the threads and quotes. You have some key ones.

Haven't even had a chance to comment on this thread or the others.
Good key cherry picked books, link 1 and 2 especially.
Link 3, Talmud Timmy above has some good banned books on there.

I didn't read this whole thread, just ignore the trolls, and the Masons
go around claiming everyone as their own, I am with Sui Juris on here
and JDR, I like the Founding Fathers, it is Pike that put the Kaballah in
Masonry, I forgot who, maybe Washington, denouncing Masons and
stating he never stepped foot in a lodge for 30 years, even still, it changed
after that period, it's complicated debate. The works of Founding Fathers
are today a direct impediment to their efforts, they just ignore the Constitution.

[Horn]

Mormonism and Masonry

The Book of Abraham


In July 1835, Joseph Smith purchased four mummies (an old female, a young female, a male, and a deformed mummy) and accompanying papyri from a man named Michael Chandler.

The old female's papyrus (Book of the Dead Belonging to Tshemmin), which was written in red and white ink, was translated by Joseph Smith into the Book of Joseph. This papyrus contained a picture of a snake whispering into a woman's ear (which Joseph Smith thought represented Eve) as well as two pillars which Joseph Smith called the "Pillars of Enoch." He claimed this phrase came from the writings of Josephus, but Josephus never uses this term. The "Pillars of Enoch" is a phrase exclusive to Freemasonry.

The male mummy came with an excerpt from the Hor Book of Breathings which Joseph Smith translated into the Book of Abraham. The Book of Abraham is based on the Biblical account, however there is also additional material. Just as with the Book of Moses, all the additional material comes from Antiquities of Freemasonry.

For example, both books tell us about the assassination attempt made on Abraham and the idea that the Egyptians modeled their worship on the religion of the ancients. They both tell us that Abraham was an expert in astronomy (although Joesphus does too). Also, Abraham is described as having great knowledge, but seeking greater knowledge. He was a follower of righteousness, but was going to be a greater follower. These descriptions are both found in Masonic ritual.

Also, Antiquities of Freemasonry tells us that Abraham was initiated into Freemasonry when he visited Shem (also known as Melchizedek). This is hinted at by Joseph Smith. The name Melchizedek literally means King of Righteousness and he was also the King of Salem (or literally "King of Peace"). Melchizedek was a prophet, priest, and king like Adam, Moses, and others. The phrase "prophet, priest, and king" was a common phrase around Joseph Smith's time, however the Catholics, Church of England, and others only used it in reference to Jesus. Joseph Smith and the Masons were the only ones who used the phrase for other people.

Joseph Smith believed that prophet, priest and king were degrees one could graduate to as evidenced by a speech he gave on July 16th, 1843. In this speech, he gave up the title of prophet and bestowed it upon his brother Hyram, saying that Hyram would become a prophet by birthright. (Both Masons and Mormons of the time stressed the importance of primogeniture.) Willard Richards wrote in reference to this talk that Joseph Smith would be a priest now and a king by and by.


Virtual ego pyramid at the link, interesting read...

http://commonpaine.blogspot.com/2011/09/mormonism-and-masonry.html

[JDRock]

its still bullshit! the popular notion was to make washington a king!....they were subjects that were used to and comfortable with this....all he had to do was step in and direct the country thee masonic way....
your suspicions ring hollow in light of the founders ACTIONS...
really now...REBEL against a jewish/masonic controlled king....give arms and power to the common man-to as you would say to fullfill masonic destiny???
LAUGHABLE! the judeo masons are struggling around the clock (with your help) to disparage the founders and reverse the freedoms like the 2nd amendment...
will fools always be so gullible to actually join hands WITH conspirators., while supposing to expose them??

[Panoptimist]

its still bullshit! the popular notion was to make washington a king!....they were subjects that were used to and comfortable with this....all he had to do was step in and direct the country thee masonic way....
your suspicions ring hollow in light of the founders ACTIONS...
really now...REBEL against a jewish/masonic controlled king....give arms and power to the common man-to as you would say to fullfill masonic destiny???
LAUGHABLE! the judeo masons are struggling around the clock (with your help) to disparage the founders and reverse the freedoms like the 2nd amendment...
will fools always be so gullible to actually join hands WITH conspirators., while supposing to expose them??


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXoNE14U_zM

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

You guys should read this book, it explains everything, the infiltration of masonry by the Jacobians, the bavarian illuminati, and the key roles they played in the American, French revolutions, and the revolutions they attempted in other countries as well

http://www.amazon.com/New-World-Order-Ancient-Societies/dp/0910311641/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323456458&sr=8-1

[D sciple]

I want my tax free farm which I only have to pay like 10 percent of the produce, a few feasts per year, guaranteed by the Law of Moses.

Celto Anglo Saxons are the Israelites. You know it, the King knew it (because he descends from David), and the f'n masons know it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNnyctcE4eQ

But no, you all want liberty for the homos, and jobs (enslavement).

[po boy]

I want my tax free farm which I only have to pay like 10 percent of the produce, a few feasts per year, guaranteed by the Law of Moses.

Celto Anglo Saxons are the Israelites. You know it, the King knew it (because he descends from David), and the f'n masons know it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNnyctcE4eQ

But no, you all want liberty for the homos, and jobs (enslavement).

Who stones the homos?

Isn't it three tithes?

One would have to expatriate citizenship, yes?

[Horn]

Who stones the homos?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmf4_zFIljw

[D sciple]

Who stones the homos?

Isn't it three tithes?

One would have to expatriate citizenship, yes?

1) We'll work it out. In Deuteronomy, it appears we elect judges. Then the people take them out. It would probably be difficult to actually convict as it is tough to witness, but the blatant ones should be easy to pick off.

2) Meh, whatev.

3) The U.S. is officially the half tribe of Manasseh. http://jahtruth.net/amerca.htm (in God's view, the only one that matters)

[po boy]

1) We'll work it out. In Deuteronomy, it appears we elect judges. Then the people take them out. It would probably be difficult to actually convict as it is tough to witness, but the blatant ones should be easy to pick off.

2) Meh, whatev.

3) The U.S. is officially the half tribe of Manasseh. http://jahtruth.net/amerca.htm (in God's view, the only one that matters)


Forgetting we are yes.