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osoab
11th December 2011, 08:00 AM
Thousands Sterilized, a State Weighs Restitution (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/10/us/redress-weighed-for-forced-sterilizations-in-north-carolina.html?hp)



LINWOOD, N.C. — Charles Holt, 62, spreads a cache of vintage government records across his trailer floor. They are the stark facts of his state-ordered sterilization.

The reports begin when he was barely a teenager, fighting at school and masturbating openly. A social worker wrote that he and his parents were of “rather low mentality.” Mr. Holt was sent to a state home for people with mental and emotional problems. In 1968, when he was ready to get out and start life as an adult, the Eugenics Board of North Carolina ruled that he should first have a vasectomy.

A social worker convinced his mother it was for the best.

“We especially emphasized that it was a way of protecting Charles in case he were falsely accused of having fathered a child,” the social worker wrote to the board.

Now, along with scores of others selected for state sterilization — among them uneducated young girls who had been raped by older men, poor teenagers from large families, people with epilepsy and those deemed to be too “feeble-minded” to raise children — Mr. Holt is waiting to see what a state that had one of the country’s most aggressive eugenics programs will decide his fertility was worth.

Although North Carolina officially apologized in 2002 and legislators have pressed to compensate victims before, a task force appointed by Gov. Bev Perdue is again wrestling with the state’s obligation to the estimated 7,600 victims of its eugenics program.

The board operated from 1933 to 1977 as an experiment in genetic engineering once considered a legitimate way to keep welfare rolls small, stop poverty and improve the gene pool.

Thirty-one other states had eugenics programs. Virginia and California each sterilized more people than North Carolina. But no program was more aggressive.

Only North Carolina gave social workers the power to designate people for sterilization. They often relied on I.Q. tests like those done on Mr. Holt, whose scores reached 73. But for some victims who often spent more time picking cotton than in school, the I.Q. tests at the time were not necessarily accurate predictors of capability. For example, as an adult Mr. Holt held down three jobs at once, delivering newspapers, working at a grocery store and doing maintenance for a small city.

Wealthy businessmen, among them James Hanes, the hosiery magnate, and Dr. Clarence Gamble, heir to the Procter & Gamble fortune, drove the eugenics movement. They helped form the Human Betterment League of North Carolina in 1947, and found a sympathetic bureaucrat in Wallace Kuralt, the father of the television journalist Charles Kuralt.

A proponent of birth control in all forms, Mr. Kuralt used the program extensively when he was director of the Mecklenburg County welfare department from 1945 to 1972. That county had more sterilizations than any other in the state.

Over all, about 70 percent of the North Carolina operations took place after 1945, and many of them were on poor young women and racial minorities. Nonwhite minorities made up about 40 percent of those sterilized, and girls and women about 85 percent.

The program, while not specifically devised to target racial minorities, affected black Americans disproportionately because they were more often poor and uneducated and from large rural families.

“The state owes something to the victims,” said Governor Perdue, who campaigned on the issue.

But what? Her five-member task force has been meeting since May to try to determine what that might be. A final report is due in February.

This week, the task force set some priorities. Money was the most important thing to offer victims, followed by mental health services.

How much to pay is a vexing question, and what North Carolina does will be closely watched by officials in other states. In a period of severe budget cuts and layoffs, money for eugenics victims can be a hard sell to legislators.


rest at link.

I bet the board doesn't suggest killing off the descendants of those that implemented this plan.

Dogman
11th December 2011, 08:17 AM
Yes, some of that shit went on up till very recently, within the last couple of generations. Forced sterilizations, drug experiments or lack of. It is a dark history and all other kinds of shit. Mainly using the poor and or blacks, that those that be, would like to see kept in a very dark closet.

osoab
11th December 2011, 08:23 AM
Yes, some of that shit went on up till very recently, within the last couple of generations. Forced sterilizations, drug experiments or lack of. It is a dark history and all other kinds of shit. Mainly using the poor and or blacks, that those that be, would like to see kept in a very dark closet.


Eugenics is still going on. They are just using new forms and methods. That's why I used "Old".

Dogman
11th December 2011, 08:33 AM
Eugenics is still going on. They are just using new forms and methods. That's why I used "Old". New names and getting more sneaky about what they are doing.

Agree.

hoarder
11th December 2011, 08:54 AM
The Master Race has been practicing eugenics for over a thousand years. It worked for them so I can't say it's wrong.

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/05/ashkenazi-eugenics-and-attitudes-of-racial-superiority/

http://www.neoeugenics.net/IQgenes.htm

osoab
11th January 2012, 07:52 PM
Forced Sterilization Victims Granted $50,000 Over Admitted US ‘Eugenics’ Program (http://www.blacklistednews.com/Forced_Sterilization_Victims_Granted_%2450%2C000_O ver_Admitted_US_%E2%80%98Eugen%E2%80%8Bics%E2%80%9 9_Program/17386/0/0/0/Y/M.html)


This is no conspiracy theory — North Carolina officials are proposing that victims of forced sterilization programs be given $50,000 each in compensation, with the Associated Press admitting that the sterilization campaign was part of a “once-common public health practice called eugenics.”

Victims include thousands of individuals, such as criminals, mentally disabled, and women who were sterilized after giving birth to children as a product of rape.

The forced sterilizations occurred from 1929 to 1974 under admitted eugenics programs that officials claimed were ‘creating a better society’ by removing the reproductive abilities of criminals and those suffering from mental disorders. During this time periods, more than 7,600 individuals in North Carolina were sterilized. On a national scale, around 60,000 were forcibly sterilized under the same eugenics program.

Eugenics Program Linked to Nazi Germany, Targeted Mostly Black Women

What makes North Carolina’s rampant sterilizations so concerning, however, is that the program kept going on right through World War II despite the direct association between eugenics and Nazi Germany.

In fact, about 70% of all North Carolina’s sterilizations were performed after the war, with numbers peaking in the 1950s. Again, this is not something being made up; this is all reported by the Associated Press and other mainstream media outlets. According to the Associated Press report (http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/3d281c11a96b4ad082fe88aa0db04305/Article_2012-01-10-Sterilization%20Program/id-385e625900ee4821a395e7110dfe7fb3):
North Carolina’s program stood out because it ramped up sterilizations after World War II despite associations between eugenics and Nazi Germany.

The report also states within the first sentence that the practicing of eugenics was quite common during this time period:
People sterilized against their will under a discredited North Carolina state program should each be paid $50,000, a task force voted Tuesday, marking the first time a state has moved to compensate victims of a once-common public health practice called eugenics.Perhaps the most criminal part of the forced sterilizations is the blatant racism involved. Most victims were poor, black women who were ‘deemed unfit to be parents’. Individuals as young as 10 were sterilized simply for not getting along with schoolmates or being promiscuous, and many parents were misled into sterilizing their children.

All of this happened in the United States, where government officials operated under a strict eugenics policy, seeing many people as ‘unfit’ to procreate. After this racist, Nazi-styled fertility purge, the victims may not receive a measly $50,000 decades after the fact.

Stop Making Cents
11th January 2012, 09:23 PM
Sterilizing blacks sounds like good policy to me

osoab
12th January 2012, 04:17 AM
Sterilizing blacks sounds like good policy to me


And when a black man or women says "I think sterilizing whites sounds like a good policy to me", you would probably get all bent out of shape.

Twisted Titan
12th January 2012, 05:09 AM
Sterilize The Zionist and 99.5 % of The Worlds problems will be gone in a generation.

hoarder
12th January 2012, 08:06 AM
And when a black man or women says "I think sterilizing whites sounds like a good policy to me", you would probably get all bent out of shape. Whites tend to see the world in terms of which philosophy is "fair", while non-Whites see things in terms of what is good for them.

osoab
21st June 2012, 07:27 PM
And there is no moneyafterall...

No money for forced sterilization victims in NC (http://www.cnbc.com/id/47902157)



RALEIGH, N.C. - The first serious proposal to compensate victims of forced sterilization failed Wednesday when North Carolina legislators said they were not approving any money for them. One ardent supporter declared: "At this point, I have lost all hope."The effort to give each victim $50,000 passed the House, but the Senate never gave the measure consideration. Republican lawmakers in that chamber said the state didn't have the money in such a tight budget year to make up for misguided, decades-old procedures. Legislators also feared paying the victims would lead other groups, such as descendants of slaves, to seek reparations.

"If you could lay the issue to rest, it might be one thing. But I'm not so sure it would lay the issue at rest because if you start compensating people who have been 'victimized' by past history, I don't know where that would end," Republican Sen. Austin Allran said.

Most states had eugenics programs but abandoned those efforts after World War II when such practices became closely associated with Nazi Germany's attempts to achieve racial purity. Scientists also debunked the assumption that "defective" humans could be weeded out of the population.

North Carolina stood out because it actually ramped up its program after the war.
Between 1929 and 1974, North Carolina forcibly sterilized about 7,600 people whom the state deemed "feeble-minded" or otherwise undesirable. Many were poor black women.

A group set up to help North Carolina victims estimated up to 1,800 were still living, though it had only verified 146 people.

The N.C. Justice for Sterilization Victims Foundation held numerous public hearings over the past year on whether to compensate the victims and how much to give them. At the hearings, victims voiced the pain of being sterilized and said their anger hadn't abated with time.

"That's the only thing I hated about being operated on, 'cause I couldn't have kids," Willis Lynch, 77, who was sterilized at 14, said at a hearing last year. "It's always been in the back of my mind."

Democratic Gov. Beverly Perdue set aside $10 million in her proposed budget for the victims. She had the backing of Republican House Speaker Thom Tillis, but couldn't muster support from key Republican senators.

The compensation was considered a failure when legislators agreed to a state budget plan that didn't include any money for the victims. The budget plan still needs approval from both chambers. Any compensation would need to be in that package.

Tillis said he considered the rejection a personal failure on his part. He and other legislators said they would keep fighting for compensation.

One of the measure's biggest supporters, Democratic Rep. Earline Parmon, said she was ashamed to be a part of the General Assembly.

"I'm appalled that the North Carolina Senate today took no action to compensate the victims that we as a state robbed of their rights to reproduce and to have children," Parmon said. "At this point, I have lost all hope."
Parmon became the lead champion of the bill after Rep. Larry Womble, who led the fight for 11 years, was critically injured in a car wreck that killed another man. He returned to the Legislature last month, pleading with a committee from his wheelchair to approve the bill.

Allran, the Republican senator, said the timing was not right.

"The state has no money anyway and the teachers would like to have a pay raise, and state employees would like to have a pay raise and you're dealing with a $250 million shortfall in Medicaid," Allran said.

Republican Sen. Don East said last week that money would not change anything.

"You just can't rewrite history. It was a sorry time in this country," East said. "I'm so sorry it happened, but throwing money don't change it, don't make it go away. It still happened."

People as young as 10 were sterilized, in some cases for not getting along with schoolmates, or for being promiscuous. Although officials obtained consent from patients or their guardians, many did not understand what they were signing.
One of the most outspoken victims, Elaine Riddick of Atlanta, has said she was raped and then sterilized after giving birth to a son when she was 14.

Riddick said she planned legal action, but she has already been to court once. In 1983, a jury rejected victims' claims that they had been wrongfully deprived of their right to bear children. Ultimately, the U.S. Supreme Court decided not to hear the case.

"I have given North Carolina a chance to justify what they had wronged," she said Wednesday. "These people here don't care about these victims. ... I will die before I let them get away with this."

Book
21st June 2012, 08:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0QBD6CXgdo

Meanwhile, back in the present 2012

:o

Book
21st June 2012, 08:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt2wpdiBlIE

Skirnir_
22nd June 2012, 12:53 AM
All of this bellyaching and not one word attacking the underlying issue of the gang of thieves writ large in Raleigh having violated the property rights of the said victims.