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Ponce
16th December 2011, 11:18 AM
A fun article to read and learn something......
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How I beat a $700 ticket in 30 seconds in court.

By Martin Hill
LibertyFight.com
12-14-11


The purpose of this article is to illustrate to motorists, particularly in California, that it is very easy to challenge and beat all types of traffic tickets. I encourage everyone to do so.

Last November I got a ticket from a CHP cop for an alleged logbook violation. I was in San Bernardino County, on I40 going eastbound. I was not driving, I was sitting in the passenger seat. My partner and I saw a big rig getting pulled over directly in front of us. The cop then pointed at us and made us stop too. My partner had allegedly bypassed an inpromptu checkpoint which was being held at a rest stop. Neither one of us had seen any signs notifying drivers of this impromptu commercial truck checkpoint. They do indeed set up checkpoints at rest areas from time to time, but I certainly didn't see any notifications of this.

Nevertheless, since I was in the front seat the cop, Officer Nelson, demanded to see my logbook (which he has a right to do if I am in the front seat, even if I am not driving.) I do not know Nelson's first name since CHP has a policy of not revealing their officer's full names for some reason.

He issued me a citation for not having my logbook available. Before signing the ticket, I asked for the County Seat, which meant that the cop would have to drive to the courthouse in the city of San Bernardino, (approx. 100 miles away) instead of his local courthouse. Choosing the option for change of venue, The "County Seat" (the main courthouse of whatever county you're in when cited) is an option for all motorists in California if they live or work closer to the county seat than where the ticket is given. In my case, the city of San Bernardino, while not where I live, was many miles closer to where I live than in the middle of nowhere on I40.

The cop said he'd give it to me, but when he gave me the ticket to sign, he had not written the county seat courthouse on the line which contains the address of the court where you're promising to appear. I informed him again that I want the county seat, and he said he would change the address later.

Only a dope would accept such nonsense. Once a cop writes his local court address and you sign the ticket, there is nothing that would require him to give you the county seat after the fact. So I wrote "UNDER PROTEST 40502B" and signed it. This was just in case he did not transfer the ticket to the county seat courthouse later, I would contact the judge and demand the change of jurisdiction to the county seat, as is all motorists right under the vehicle code.

After all, these cops love the law so much. Right? They love enforcing the law, they're "LAW AND ORDER" guys! That's what they tell us anyway. Well then they better adhere to their own damn laws just like we have to.

The true reason that pigs don't want to give you the county seat AS REQUIRED BY California law if you demand it, is because they don't want to have to drive out of their way. They want to drive ten minutes to their local podunk court, and inconvenience you. Too bad.

When the cop saw what I wrote, he became agitated and claimed that "Now I could charge you with any number of things". Well, since I've demanded the county seat for every ticket I've gotten in the past ten years, I knew this was nonsense. I didn't refuse to sign the ticket, I had just made a short notation of my redress of grievances in case the cop didnt change the venue to San Bernardino court later, as he had promised. I explained this to him and he accepted it, and we went our separate ways.

The first thing I did a week prior to my arraignment date was file an extension over the phone. An arraignment is simply a court date in which you plead guilty or not guilty. I got a few extensions over the phone, so it was 2011 by the time my arraignment date came around. I got a notice in the mail with the bail amount for this ticket. It was nearly $700! Obscene insanity!

In California, everyone has a right to file what's called a TRIAL BY DECLARATION. This simply means that you have a trial through the mail. You can see copies of the form on this page. As I've explained in previous articles, my friend John Shanahan has beaten several tickets through the mail. They like you to pay your bail along with your declaration. You can do this, but since I am a cheapskate, I never do it. I ask for an OR, otherwise known as an "own recognizance". In other words, a bail waiver. You assure them that you will show up at your court date without having to post bail. It is up to the judge whether or not he allows you to waive the bail. It depends on the city, but some courts even allow you to get a bail waiver at the clerk's window. It doesn't hurt to ask.



In my case, since I wanted a bail waiver, they demanded I show up in court in person for my arraignment and speak to the judge. So I did this and the judge gave me a bail waiver. I didn't have to pay the $700 bucks bail. I then asked for a trial by declaration. The great thing about this is that a trial by declaration, if you're found guilty you are entitled, under California law, to request a TRIAL DE NOVO. A Trial de novo ("of new", in Latin) is not an appeal, but rather a brand new trial, in person. So, what have you got to lose by doing it through the mail? Nothing. It seems that almost no one knows about this option, but it is very easy.
My trial date was set and both parties (defendant and prosecution) had to submit our declaration by July 1st 2011. About a week and a half before the due date, I printed out the form, wrote the words NOT GUILTY, and mailed it in. As you will see in the case of John Shanahan I mentioned above, if an officer (who is the witness for the prosecution) in your case does not submit his declaration, the case is generally dismissed by the judge for lack of prosecution, "in the interest of justice".

Around July 5th, I got something in the mail which said that the officer had not submitted his paperwork. However, he had also claimed that he had never been notified of the trial, and requested that the court give him more time to submit his paperwork. Without even notifying me, a traffic commissioner named W Charles Bradley held a hearing on this matter and granted the prosecution several additional weeks to submit their paperwork. Say what?! What kind of nonsense is that? Not submitting your paperwork on time is just like not showing up to court. If I, the defendant, had not shown up to court, do you think I could have gotten an extra month from the judge for another try?

So, in mid July, the cop submitted his paperwork saying I am guilty, and Commissioner Bradley ruled that I was guilty.

When I got the notice in the mail stating I was convicted, within 2 weeks I mailed in my form demanding my TRIAL DE NOVO. On that form, I notified the court of my intent to file an official complaint against Bradley for judicial misconduct. (that is an important point, as you will see later). A few weeks later I recieved notice from the court that my TRIAL DE NOVO was granted, that the conviction was therefore vacated, and a brand new trial was set for in person, in the San Bernardino Superior Court. [Do you understand now why I was so adamant about demanding the county seat almost a year prior? Now, the lying jackboot must drive almost 100 miles for court.]

Just to show how crooked they were, a month prior to my trial I sent in a letter (certified with return reciept) to the court politely requesting an extension on the trial date. After all, I, unlike the cop, had an actual legitimate excuse for my request. I was out of the state and it would be more convenient to reschedule. And remember, I requested an extension over a month prior to the trial date, not a week after the trial was over, as the pig cop did.

A few weeks later I got a letter from the court stating that my request was DENIED. I guess the serfs can not get extensions for any reason prior to a trial, but prosecution witnesses can get extensions for a trials that were already overwith a week ago.

When I went to court, the same Commissioner Bradley who had given a retroactive extension to the prosecution witness yet had refused to give me a legitimate extension, was the judge who was slated to hear my case. How charming. I waited in line with the hundred or so other defendants and eventually got herded into the courtroom.

As they called out all the names of defendants and corresponding officer witnesses, I realized that the officer who had given me the ticket was present in court. The trials began, and one after another, the commisioner ruled each defendant guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. It seemed that no matter what the defendants or their witnesses said, the commisioner (a government employee) ruled for the government and ordered the person to pay the fine. He had a particularly caustic and negative attitude toward defendants and tended to dismiss whatever they said. Granted, most of them did not present competent defenses to the charges. It was embarrasing to see how abysmal they had neglected to prepare. (One older gentleman, who had been seated next to meand was reading a book about archeology in South America, did win his case). This went on for over an hour and finally my case was called. Officer Nelson and I proceeded to stand at the bench before the judge. The judge started jibbering something, but I spoke up and told the commissioner "Before we begin, I would like to go on record requesting that you recuse yourself from this case".

His face contorted and he sneered "on what grounds!?" It took me less than 30 seconds to explain.

I replied, "I have already notified the court of my intent to file an official judicial complaint against you. They have acknowledged reciept of my notice. If you like, I can go into the details."

Since I had notified the court of my intent to file a complaint against the commissioner for his extremely innapropriate actions regarding the retroactive extension, he had no legitimate right to rule on any case involving me, as far as I was concerned.



An awkward hush came over the court as Bradley shuffled some paperwork and told me to go to a courtroom down the hall. Apparently he did not want me to air the details of my complaint in open court for all to hear. Go figure.
I was sent to the courtroom of a very nice judge, Commissioner Michael A. Knish, the same one who I had appeared for at the arraignment of this case. It is very rare for me to refer to a judge as nice, but this judge Michael Knish actually seems like a genuinely nice and fair person. Officer Nelson and I waited over two more hours before we were called. This court was very busy, and was filled with cases of parents who were in court for kids with school attendance problems. One after another after another, the cases were heard as the minutes and hours ticked on. Tick. Tick. Tick. The officer had a stack of papers and files with him for my case. He seemed to believe he was well prepared, and also appeared irritated at the fact he had to wait so long. I thought that was funny. Well, he's a whore for the state, and wants my seven hundred bucks, so I'm making him work for it. He already drove over 100 miles to get here - hope he enjoyed it.

When my case was finally called, the judge started to address us but I began exactly as I had done in the first courtroom. "Before we begin, I'd like to request that this case be dismissed", I said. Surprised, the judge asked me to briefly explain why I think it should be dismissed. It took about 30 seconds for me to do so before he dismissed the case.

I told him that in my arraignment when I requested the trial by declaration, he himself had issued the order that our paperwork was due three days before the trial date of July 1st. I told him that I had submitted my paperwork long before that date, (showed him a copy) and I also showed him a copy of his courtroom's record from that day which stated, "OFFICER'S STATEMENT SUBPOENAED". "It says officer notified right here, and it has your own clerk's name on it", I said. I then told him of "the extremely dubious and completely unsubstanciated claim on the prosecution's part that the officer had not been notified of the trial by declaration." I then mentioned that commissioner Bradley had given them an extension after the trial date was passed, and even worse, without even notifying me at all, a blatant violation of due process. He looked over his paperwork and acknowledged that the papers in the original trial by declaration were due July 1st, and that I was not notified of any hearing regarding the prosecution's request for an extension. He also noted that more than 45 days had passed between the arraignment and the trial. Cases must be adjudicated within 45 days of arraignment, unless the defendant waives that right, which he noted, I had not. The judge then dismissed the case in the interest of justice. Officer Nelson seemed visibly annoyed at the outcome. The poor sap never even had a chance to speak one word in court! I thanked the judge, and walked out with a full wallet.

http://libertyfight.com/articles/revenue_pigs_lose_700_bucks_in_thirty_seconds.html

chad
16th December 2011, 11:27 AM
that sounds like it took way longer than 30 seconds.

Dogman
16th December 2011, 11:34 AM
that sounds like it took way longer than 30 seconds. Face time?

;D

woodman
16th December 2011, 12:11 PM
A good read and an interesting story but for all the bs he had to go through he probably would have been better off paying the $700. He lost at least a day in court and all that time writing letters and figuring out his defence. He probably had a good time though and that makes it worth while I suppose.

joboo
16th December 2011, 12:21 PM
Here's a copy, and paste I grabbed the other day. Food for thought to create reasonable doubt.



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The officer will have a version of their "model testimony", which is well rehearsed, and will cover everything that is needed to convict you. Most cops will say they saw this car coming, in his trained eyes it appeared to him speeding, and the radar reading confirmed it. THIS IS WRONG!



They can never judge a car's speed using plain eyes farther than a radar can determine. The law requires that the officer has to form his own INDEPENDENT visual opinion that the car was speeding, and collaborate his finding with the radar reading. This can never happen. A radar, even the cheapest one, has a much longer effective range in determining target speed than the most capable plain human eyes.



If a cop says he saw this car coming and it appeared to be speeding, then he checks his radar to confirm it, he is lying. The radar would have clocked the target speed long ago before he could even see it. The following line of questions will reveal this fact:

1. Officer, how far ahead can you see using plain eyes, given the weather condition on [insert date of offence]?Take note of his answer. The intelligent officer will say he doesn't know, or it depends. Throw a number such as 200m at him and see if he agrees. If he still refuses to accept a figure, move on.

2. Do you know the approximate range of your radar unit?
If he is a competent radar operator, he should know the answer. If he doesn't know, make a motion to the judge that the officer is not a competent witness. Also move to strike radar as evidence. A typical radar unit has a range of approximately 400m (1200 feet).

3. Do you think that you can see farther than the range of the radar unit?
The obvious answer is no.

4. Isn't it true that you cannot see a car coming until the radar has already picked it up?
It is true, unless he sets up the radar around a curve or on a hill.

5. That means the radar has already told you a car is speeding even before you can see it?
Yes.

6. Would the radar reading somehow influence your decision about a car is speeding?
The honest officer will answer yes.

7. Can you form an INDEPENDENT [with emphasis] opinion about a car is speeding when the radar has told you it's already got one?
Obviously he can't.

Since now most cops don't set up the speed traps in plain view on a straight highway, they do that hidden around a curve or on a hill. So the next set of questions might be useful to you. The idea behind the following line of questions is, the time needed for radar to measure your speed once you pop into view is much shorter than for the cop to establish a visual estimate.

It probably doesn't take more than 1 second for the radar unit to register a speed, but it can take up to 2 seconds for a cop to assess how fast you are going. It is preferrable that you draw a simple map to illustrate your point here.
1. Officer, this is a rough diagram of the highway in question here. Would you indicate to me where you were stationed prior to this offence? Draw a mark on the diagram to indicate his position.

2. Officer, would you also indicate to me the approximate position and distance where you first saw the defendant's vehicle pop into view?
Draw another mark on the diagram to indicate your position.

3. What approximately was the distance? 80m? 100m? 150m?
Note his answer. Compare it to what you think it should be. It is unimportant, unless it differs substantially. It just gives the judge an idea how close you were.

4. In your experience, at that distance, how long does it take the radar unit to register a target speed? Half a second? 1 second?
It should be very short. Have you seen the huge billboards with two digital readouts on the roadside showing your speed measured by radar along with the posted speed limit? Those certainly don't take more than half a second to register your speed.

5. Officer, without any other influence, how long does it take you to estimate a vehicle's speed? 1 second? 2 seconds?
A vehicle travelling at 100km/h covers 27.78 metres in 1 second. I doubt he can form an estimate in shorter time than that.

6. That means the radar has already got a reading before you can completely analyze and establish an estimate about the target's speed?
Yes.

7. Would the radar reading somehow influence your decision about a car is speeding?
If he is honest, he should say yes.

8. That means you cannot form an INDEPENDENT opinion about a car is speeding BEFORE collaborating with the radar readout?
Whatever the cop scrambles to offer some explanation is unimportant. Your point is made and you can tell him to stop, and only answer yes or no.
You are in very good shape if you were not the only moving car on the road when the citation occurred. The classical approach is to blame it on somebody else. Ask the following questions:
1. Can your radar unit distinguish between different directions of traffic?Almost all traffic radar can't. They can register speed both coming towards or going away from the radar unit.

2. How wide is the radar beam at a distance of 100m, 200m, 300m...?
Note his answers. If he says he doesn't know, tell him to answer in number of lanes. A typical radar can cover all four lanes of traffic at 200m.

3. Can your radar unit distinguish between targets? In other words, does it tell you which car is responsible for a reading?
No! The ones which can cost millions of dollars.

4. Since your radar unit cannot distinguish target direction, nor identify targets, that means any moving car on all 4 lanes of traffic in range can produce a reading?
Yes, certainly.

5. How do you know the alleged radar reading [insert offence speed] wasn't produced by that truck in the right lane?
He doesn't know. Hence reasonable doubt exists.

If you have made this far, congratulations. In the cop's testimony, he might have stated that you were passing other cars and thus were fastest. But don't worry, as long as there were other cars in the opposite direction, the classical approach still works.
6. Officer, you testified that I was the fastest among traffic. Is it possible that the radar reading was produced by opposite traffic, while I was only passing vehicles who were travelling below the speed limit?See? Going faster than other vehicles isn't against the law. The cop can't possibly compare speeds in opposite directions, therefore reasonable doubt still exists.

If you weren't so fortunate, that you were the only car on the road, things are a little more difficult for you. You may have very little chance of winning, but you've got to try anyway. (assuming you already know the range of the radar unit, and the approximate range that the cop can see ahead.)
1. Do you agree that the radar unit has a longer range than your eyes?Yes.

2. Is it possible that the radar is clocking some moving vehicle that is beyond your visual range?
Yes.

3. then is it possible that more than one car were in range of the radar, but the defendant's car was the only one visible to you?
Yes, it is possible, but the clever officer will answer unlikely.

If things are not looking too good for you at this stage, it isn't the end of the trial yet. If you have surveyed the surrounding area, and have found neon signs, power lines or other transmitters nearby, you could ask the officer's opinion about the effects of these things have on the radar. He may outright deny it, so that explains why you should make every effort to obtain as much information as possible from your public records request.

If you obtained the radar manual, you can find out what are the pitfalls and shortcomings of the radar unit. They should be documented in the manual. For example, some radar units will produce unreliable readings if the ambient temperature falls below or rise above a certain range.

If the offence date happened to be a cold or hot day which will likely affect the reliability of the radar unit, then you make sure that you ask the cop how hot or how cold that day was, and show him at that temperature, the radar wouldn't give reliable readings.
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horseshoe3
16th December 2011, 01:15 PM
What if he has his radar pointed at you but not turned on until after he has visually estimated your speed? As I understand it, this is common. Not because they want to follow procedure, but because they want to hide from radar detectors.

Glass
16th December 2011, 03:02 PM
that sounds like it took way longer than 30 seconds.

took 30 seconds to defeat the guy and a couple of months for them/him to realise it. You gotta follow through on these things but it's do able because that guy is right. The rules do apply to them as well. Actually if the rules apply to anyone is debatable but that's a whole nother thread.

Anyway good read.

palani
16th December 2011, 03:10 PM
Adventures in Legal Land type material. Most people don't know how to speak in court. They believe the court speaks English when it actually speaks legalise. Impeaching the policyman is not a good option unless you have oratory experience or like to act.

Remember the goal is to milk some coins out of your pocket. The judge is in on it so the game is rigged against you.

Ticketslayer probably is a better approach. Abate the nuisance and get on with your life.

milehi
16th December 2011, 03:22 PM
San Bernardino County is a corrupt slum county. And, not only does Commisioner Bradley run a kangaroo court, he is in fact, Captain Kangaroo.

I received a ticket for allegedly following too close. The car in front of me was the issuing officer(who tailgates a cop on a highway?). I exhausted all my extensions, and sent my written declaration in at the last minute, in which I was found guilty. I filed for the new trial at the last minute and finally was given a new trial a year later. I had hoped that the officer wouldn't show up, and since I received the ticket in a CHP training area, I was hoping he was now patroling 700 miles north. He showed up to the kangaroo court so plead no contest and asked for traffic school to keep my driving record clean. I figure the $230 "bail" was easily exhausted in the administrative process.

milehi
16th December 2011, 03:48 PM
I found my written declaration. Please critique it as I'm still learning. Thanks.


STATEMENT OF FACTS

Defendant's Name: MILEHI

Case No. : 12345

I respectfully submit this written declaration to the Court pursuant to CVC 40902. I plead Not Guilty to the charge of violating CVC 21703 VC1.

The facts of my case are as follows: While driving on CA State Highway 123 on 8/9/10 I was stopped by CHP Officer Poncharello (I.D.#12345) and charged with violating CVC 21703 VC-1, Following Too Closely. The officer alleged that I was following the car in front of me "too closely." Officer Poncharello was driving the vehicle in front of me.

I was traveling at the posted speed limit of 55mph, when I caught up to a group of cars traveling 10 miles an hour under the speed limit; 45mph. Officer Poncharello’s vehicle was the last car in line. I followed his car at a safe distance with approximately a 3 second “space cushion” as advised by the California Department of Motor Vehicles. In fact, I was following Officer Poncharello’s vehicle at the same distance as he was following the vehicle in front of him.

The Highway speed limit dropped to 45mph and the group of cars was now traveling at 35mph. I maintained the same 3 second “space cushion” as advised in The California Driver Handbook, and used Officer Pocharello’s “space cushion” as an example.

Officer Poncharello pulled hard into a turnout, and pulled up behind me traveling at an unsafe distance. If I had to make an emergency stop, Officer Poncharello would have caused an accident. Since we were traveling at ten miles an hour under the speed limit, I sped up(dropped it into second gear and punched it, pissing off Ponch royally ha ha) to the posted speed limit of 45mph. It was then that Officer Poncharello initiated the traffic stop.

I reviewed the California Vehicle Code, CVC 21703 Following Too Closely states: "The driver of a motor vehicle shall not follow another vehicle more closely than is reasonable or prudent, having due regard for the speed of such vehicle and the traffic upon, and the condition of, the roadway."

The officer neglected to get the day of the week correct on the citation. The vehicle type is incorrect on the citation. And the speed noted on the citation is incorrect. Officer Poncharello also neglected to note traffic upon the road, condition of the road, and most importantly, the speed of the vehicle I was following. I can state that traffic at the time of my stop was light to medium, road conditions were good, and the vehicle I was following was traveling slightly faster than I and was therefore pulling away from me. As such, I believe that I was following at a safe and prudent distance.

I believe that a reasonable interpretation of CVC 21703 proves my innocence in this case and I ask the Court to dismiss my citation in the interest of justice.

If the court does not find in my favor in this case, I request a Trial de Novo.

I declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the State of California that the foregoing is true and correct.
Date: 8/9/10

MILEHI, Defendant in Pro Per

palani
16th December 2011, 04:34 PM
Please critique it as I'm still learning.

Attorneys are licensed to argue. Recognize when you are in contract negotiations and not a court of law.