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Ponce
22nd December 2011, 08:59 PM
The Iowa caucus is only a few days away and the nation's attention will be directed to the results, which signify the beginning of the U.S. presidential race. But does anyone watch who tallies the results of the Iowa caucus?

The Iowa caucus results were tallied in 2004 by a company that is headed by a man whose company was bought by Elron Electronics, the Israeli defense firm. I suspect that it will be the same this year. Don't expect to see any grassroots political activists doing the tally in Iowa. The Israeli defense establishment takes care of that part of the American "democratic" election process.

VOXEO

In the summer of 2004, I first learned that a foreign and out-of-state company using Interactive Voice Response (IVR) technology tallied the Iowa caucus results.

The system used to tally the 2004 Iowa caucus results was provided by a company called Voxeo, which was apparently based in Orlando, Florida. (Yellow flag goes up in the mind of those familiar with Orlando and electronic vote fraud history. See Bollyn article on Wang below.)

The calls from the nearly 2,000 caucus centers in Iowa went to a Voxeo call center in Atlanta, Georgia.

On January 31, 2005, I wrote to Michelle Bauer, Iowa's Secretary of State with some questions about the use of Voxeo, a foreign company located in Florida, to tally the results of the Iowa caucus:

Subject: How was the Iowa Caucus Tallied?

Dear Sirs,

When I visited the headquarters of the Democratic Party in Des Moines last summer, I learned that the tally of the Iowa caucus had been "out-sourced" to a company in Atlanta, Georgia.

What this means is that the tallying of the Iowa caucus results was done over the telephone, using the touch-tone buttons, to enter the results from each caucus locationS

I am interested in how this was done, and why. Why did the Democratic Party allow the crucial tally of the caucus results to be done by a company in Atlanta? Don't they trust their own math skills?

Can any of you provide any information about this matter?

Kind regards,
Christopher Bollyn

A person named Mike Milligan wrote back on behalf of Secretary of State Bauer:


Mike Milligan wrote:
Dear Christopher:

The Secretary of State forwarded me the email you sent to then on Monday, January 31, 2004 [sic] regarding the Iowa Caucuses.

Unfortunately, you either received some incorrect information in your travels or are confused. The Iowa Democratic Party completed all of the caucus night tabulations in Iowa, in the Des Moines/Polk County Convention Center, which was the Caucus night HQ. In fact, our tech staff wrote the software that tabulated the results.

To answer your second to last question, we feel we have a comfortable grasp of mathematics.

Sincerely,
MWM
Mike Milligan,
Executive Director Iowa Democratic Party
(515) 244-7292 ex. 676

I wrote this note back to Mr. Milligan:


Dear Mr. Milligan,

I am responding to you about how the caucus results for the Iowa Democratic Party were tallied on the night of the nation's first caucus. After checking my sources, I can assure you that it is correct that an out-of-state telephone/computer system tallied the Iowa precinct results.

The system used was provided by Voxeo Corporation based in Orlando, Florida. The calls went from Iowa to a call center in Atlanta, Georgia.

See: http://www.voxeo.com/

This information was first provided to me last August by John McCormally, Communications Director for the Iowa Democratic Party in Des Moines, Iowa.

Today I called Voxeo (800) 305-5771 in Orlando and although I didn't go into detail, the receptionist confirmed that Voxeo had conducted the telephone tally of the Iowa Democratic Caucus results.

How is it that you don't know that?

McCormally told me that chairmen were selected in all 1,993 precincts and these chairmen called in on touch-tone phones and after giving their PIN number, were able to enter the results from their precinct using the touch-tone number pad.

I'm not going to go into great detail at this point, but this procedure of using an out-of-state computer company to tally the precinct results for the Iowa Democratic Caucus lacks the transparency and openness that one might expect in this exercise in grass-roots poll.

Clearly, if someone wanted to adjust the results, it would be the easiest thing to do to do it through this computer system in Orlando, Florida. The Democrats in Iowa would never be aware of it, regardless of their math skills, unless the paper results were carefully audited in an open and honest manner.

Christopher Bollyn

THE ISRAELIS & VOXEO

Now, who really is Voxeo, and why are the Iowa caucus results tallied by them? I don't know if the 2008 Iowa results will be tallied in the same way, but I wouldn't doubt it.

Voxeo is headed by Jonathan Taylor, who is the company's President and CEO. This is what his Voxeo webpage says about him:

Jonathan combined his experience in both business operations and technology innovation to found Voxeo in 1999. Under his guidance, Voxeo has seen triple-digit revenue growth for four consecutive years and has been profitable since January, 2004. Prior to Voxeo, Jonathan founded and helped bring three additional software and infrastructure service companies to profitability.

"From 1995 to 1997, Jonathan was the founder and President of InterResearch and Development Group (IRdg), Inc. IRdg created and licensed iPost - the first internet powered OEM unified messaging solution - to leading telecommunications providers including Ericsson,

Motorola and Unisys. IRdg was acquired by Elron Electronic Industries (Nasdq: ELRN) subsidiary MediaGate in 1997."

There you have it. Jonathan Taylor's company, which he founded, was taken over by Elron Electronic Industries, the Israeli defense high tech company:

In its early days, Elron focused on defense, particularly electronics and avionics, as well as the emerging medical and technology sectors. In 1966, Elron founded Elbit, which combined the expertise of the Ministry of Defense-Research Institute in special computer design with Elron's experience in electronic product design, manufacture and management. Source: http://www.elron.net/default.asp?Pa...

This is important information that Americans need to know and which they will not find in the Zionist-controlled media in the United States. It needs to be understood that the entire election process in the United States is a fraud. More than that, it is a fraud that is being perpetrated by the Israeli defense establishment on the naïve and gullible American public.

The sine qua non of an honest and transparent election process is the open counting of the votes by the voters themselves in each polling station in front of the open eyes of other citizens and members of the media. Any compromise in this most fundamental and essential process which acts to remove the citizenry from the vote-counting process simply cannot be accepted.

This is what Americans MUST get back to, in every polling station in the nation: paper ballots that are hand counted in front of the public.

Nothing else will do to protect their democratic franchise in the United States - NOTHING.

http://www.rense.com/general79/sis.htm

Twisted Titan
23rd December 2011, 02:29 AM
Those who vote decide nothing.

Those who count the vote ...AND THE TRIBE THEY COME FROM.....decide everything.

MAGNES
23rd December 2011, 03:08 AM
Ponce got this off WRH.

Everyone here should be reading Bollyn,
and you should save the archive, very easy
to do, save web page complete in FF, for
each year going back. It is a key archive.
BOLLYN.COM (http://www.bollyn.com/)

Also, ask yourselves why Rense
never covers Bollyn archives on 9/11,
even rip off his work, no credit, also
above, no link to his archive, blog,
go to oringinal rense. Rense is a dirty
bastard on issues that matter where
real criminals can be put in jail.
Carry on this way and let Rense lead
you nowhere, see the game, how it's
played.

Spread this info on other sites, Bollyn work.

PatColo
23rd December 2011, 04:06 AM
yeah story @ rense is from '08, I just searched http://www.bollyn.com/index.php for "iowa", and the only trace is where he responds to a reader letter, and gives bollyn.com links to the story now re-appearing at rense.


[...] A glance at the board members (http://www.texasisrael.org/board.php) of Perry's group of Israeli supporters reveals the heads of two of Mossad's biggest intelligence gathering companies in the United States: Amdocs and Elbit. Elbit (a military subsidiary of Elron) is directly involved in stealing presidential elections in the United States through its control of the tally of the Iowa caucus. So, who do you think will win Iowa? It's usually NOT the front runner. See "ELRON - VOXEO: The Israeli Defense Firm That Tallies the Iowa Caucus" (http://www.bollyn.com/elron-voxeo-the-israeli-defense-firm-that-tallies-the-iowa-caucus) and "Elbit - The Hellerstein Connection to 9-11" (http://www.bollyn.com/elbit-the-hellerstein-connection-to-9-11)

Bigjon
23rd December 2011, 05:22 AM
http://www.votefraud.org/Iowa2012.htm

Action! Ron Paul may be cheated out of Victory unless you . . .
Volunteer to help Watch The Vote in the Iowa Caucus on Jan 3, 2012 at:
www.WatchTheVote2012.Com
The First Category of Volunteers, the 99 "computer uploaders" (one for each of Iowa's 99 counties), can be sitting anywhere in the USA on Caucus night; the Second Category of Volunteers, those who will attend one of the 1784 local caucus gatherings to monitor the vote -- must be either Iowans who are also attending the Caucus to vote, or people who live near enough to Iowa to drive to a local caucus gathering on Caucus night as an observer / "vote monitor" --

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This page explains or links to all the info you need to understand why we must monitor the vote
All-Important Info For Ron Paul Supporters for Monitoring the Jan 3, 2012 Iowa Caucus & the Jan 10, 2012 New Hampshire Primary
The RHINOS and NeoCons who run the Iowa State GOP Leadership Have a Long History of Dishonesty and Election Rigging in the Iowa Straw Poll and the Iowa Caucus when a "candidate of the people" like Pat Buchanan or Ron Paul is in the race - see the article "A House Without Doors" linked below - about Exactly How Buchanan was Cheated in 1996. Ron Paul is in danger of being rigged out of the Iowa Caucus victory in 2012. The Iowans at the local gatherings do everything above board and honest. The problem begins after the local people call in the results to the Iowa State GOP. This Page Tells Ron Paul Supporters how to prevent this. We fear Drew Ivers and the Iowa RP Campaign are doing nothing about this -- just as they did nothing to monitor the vote in 2008, despite adequate warning then, as this year. As you will see, the Iowa State GOP and the Big Media will do anything to prevent Ron Paul from coming in 1st in the Iowa Caucus - if they can get away with it. NH has its own problems, but the vote in NH can be monitored also. See below.

Short Version and Long Version of What Must be Done for the Iowa Caucus and the NH Primary are Linked Below on this Page



(I'm going to try and have a short video up here in the next few days, explaining how Ron Paul Supporters can save the Iowa Caucus 2012 for Ron Paul by monitoring the vote count at each of the 1784 local Caucus gatherings, and then throwing the REAL results up on an internet website; for now -- read BOTH of the below Network America Ewires on Iowa if you can. But, if you can only read one -- read the Short Version immediately below. -- Same goes for NH, there is a short version and long version. There are about 240 polling places in NH, about 140 computerized towns, and 100 hand counted towns. It is possible to monitor the vote in NH in both kinds of towns, and that is explained in the articles linked on this page also. - Jim Condit Jr.)

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Short Version: Monitoring the Vote For Victory for Ron Paul In Iowa 2012 -- December 8, 2011

Short version for Iowa "Watch theVote" Strategy, (almost) nothing but the facts, with just a little commentary; (Long Version of this ewire is linked below)
When you click through to Topica to read the above Network America ewire, you can adjust the Text Size by clicking on "View" -- right after "File" and "Edit" at the top left of the page -- and then going down to "Text Size" and adjusting to the text size that is comfortable for you to read.


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Short Version: New Hampshire 2012: How to Monitor the Vote for Ron Paul and Everybody Else in New Hampshire 2012
-- December 13, 2011
When you click through to Topica to read the above Network America ewire, you can adjust the Text Size by clicking on "View" -- right after "File" and "Edit" at the top left of the page -- and then going down to "Text Size" and adjusting to the text size that is comfortable for you to read.

Short version for New Hampshire "Watch the Vote" Strategy, (almost) nothing but the facts, with just a little commentary -- included at end is how the RP Paid staff in NH fought against "Watch the Vote" in 2008 in NH like Warrior-Demons, while we in "Vote in Sunshine" fought like Warrior-Poets -- this is why RP supporters must, if necessary, overrule the RP Paid Staff on monitoring the vote in NH in 2012 (Long Version of this ewire is linked below)
When you click through to Topica to read the above Network America ewire, you can adjust the Text Size by clicking on "View" -- right after "File" and "Edit" at the top left of the page -- and then going down to "Text Size" and adjusting to the text size that is comfortable for you to read.

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chad
23rd December 2011, 05:33 AM
Since when did they start using computers to vote? Every Iowa caucus I've ever been to you all sat around in a room and voted with a show of hands, or you sat under a candidates sign and they just did a head count.

MAGNES
23rd December 2011, 05:34 AM
yeah story @ rense is from '08, I just searched http://www.bollyn.com/index.php for "iowa", and the only trace is where he responds to a reader letter, and gives bollyn.com links to the story now re-appearing at rense.

this is the original, thanks for search, that is my point

notice Ponce himself messed up the title and date, they already screwed RP over

now it is just round 2 coming

http://www.bollyn.com/elron-voxeo-the-israeli-defense-firm-that-tallies-the-iowa-caucus

People should be giving credit to good sources.

sirgonzo420
23rd December 2011, 05:40 AM
Since when did they start using computers to vote? Every Iowa caucus I've ever been to you all sat around in a room and voted with a show of hands, or you sat under a candidates sign and they just did a head count.


oh whatever, you're just in cahoots with TPTB

mamboni
23rd December 2011, 05:45 AM
I think this is earthshattering news. The voting process is arguably the most sacrosanct process in the republican form of government. If the vote is corrupted, everything else is invalidated. I sent this article to a bunch of people. Folks need to know that the very process of vote counting and determination of who is elected to represent the will of the voters has been outsourced to a foreign private entity, an Israeli Defense company no less. No one can seriously deny that the latter entity has a clear conflict of interest, as Israel is the largest recipient of US military aid.

Would you share the code to your home alarm system with a caual acquaintance? If your home sustained several burglaries where the alarm system was mysteriously defeated, who would be on the short list of suspects?

MAGNES
23rd December 2011, 06:06 AM
I think this

Mamboni, my good sir, you better than most knows this is not new,
we were following this sort of thing in great detail then, Diebold Jews,
etc, Collins revelations to Congress even and his murder, it was
up to Ron Paul and his followers to do something about this,
and RP put a NeoCon in the nest and only Sibel Edmonds blew the
whistle, I have always thought they are going to srew him over again,
what changed, not much, those clowns never went away and won't,
easier to do that than to kill him, that they won't do, they don't need
to. They are never going to give up their game.

I just read some guys post on here, " we are jew bashers " , Right !

" these are the hate forums " famous gsus member , LOL !

This is what we were being banned on gim for.

You are not allowed to state who the enemy is.

Therefore you cannot fight it effectively.

We even get attacked on these forums, what chance does everyone else have ?

Good luck to Ron Paul. We all need it.

And if anyone sends anything to anyone, send the original Bollyn article.

Mamboni and the good people here, Merry Christmas to you and your family,
good health and prosperity to you. Take care of yourselves people.