Not an endorsement I'd want!

[EE_]

Elder Bush gives his blessing to Romney

Less than two weeks before Iowa Republicans make their crucial caucus choices on the night of Jan. 3, George H.W. Bush offered words of support, if not an official endorsement, to an old friend, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

"I think Romney is the best choice for us," former President Bush told the Houston Chronicle this week. "I like Perry, but he doesn't seem to be going anywhere; he's not surging forward."

Bush said he had known Romney for many years and also knew his father, George Romney, a former Republican governor of Michigan who ran for president in 1968.

Bush said he supported Romney because of his "stability, experience, principles. He's a fine person," he said. "I just think he's mature and reasonable - not a bomb-thrower."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc7i0wCFf8g

[Cebu_4_2]

Posted and opinion shared

[midnight rambler]

What the hell are you talking about?!?!? The guy is a national hero - he has an aircraft carrier named after him - how can you question that?? ???

[StreetsOfGold]

About the only other person I would NOT want a "blessing" from is the POPE - That's like getting a death warrant

Aside from that there's a Bible principle regarding "blessings" which many people don't know

Hebrews 7:7 And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.

If someone like Bush gives his blessing, what he is saying is that he is BETTER than you.

[sirgonzo420]

LOL.

George Romney, Mitt's dad, was a mexican!


He was born in a mormon colony in Mexico!


He's probably got his own damn planet by now! LOL!

[JDRock]

LOL.

George Romney, Mitt's dad, was a mexican!


He was born in a mormon colony in Mexico!


He's probably got his own damn planet by now! LOL!
gonz, the crap mormons are taught is freakin WIERD...like, if you dont wear the right underwear (which by co-incidence can only be purchased from the mormon church) you are not going to heaven!..REALLY? UNDERWEAR??? F-IN REAAAALY? and this guy wants the white house!

[gunDriller]

What the hell are you talking about?!?!? The guy is a national hero - he has an aircraft carrier named after him - how can you question that?? ???

i don't question it. i salute it every time it's on TV.

salute with my middle finger, that is.

though actually, i watch very little TV.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2011/12/Naval_Update_12-21-11_800.jpg


OK, so the SS George HW Bush is currently docked in Norfolk, Virginia.

i saluted ! good thing, too, i was getting rusty.

[sirgonzo420]

gonz, the crap mormons are taught is freakin WIERD...like, if you dont wear the right underwear (which by co-incidence can only be purchased from the mormon church) you are not going to heaven!..REALLY? UNDERWEAR??? F-IN REAAAALY? and this guy wants the white house!


Yep. Mormon theology is OUT OF THIS WORLD! :P

[Tumbleweed]

George Romney was also involved with MK Ultra and the abuse of Cathy O'Brien. Mentions him in her books "Transformation of Ameria" and "Access Denied". I suspect Mitt is the same sort of scum as his father.

[Tumbleweed]

There are symbols on mornon underwear and I've checked some out. I can't remember but I did find a compass or square sewn on a garment and also a little bunch sewn up in another place. I don't really know much about it and none of the mormans I've been around talked about it.

[Old Herb Lady]

Ever wear a cross necklace in front of a mormon ??
They run LIKE HELL from you !!
If you ask why, what the heck is going on...they will tell you that you're wearing the murder weapon around your neck !!

[sirgonzo420]

George Romney was also involved with MK Ultra and the abuse of Cathy O'Brien. Mentions him in her books "Transformation of Ameria" and "Access Denied". I suspect Mitt is the same sort of scum as his father.

Yep. You saved me a post.

[Tumbleweed]

George Romney was a mason too.

[ArizonaDad]

Some of this anti-Mormon hysteria is just bizarre. As examples:

".like, if you dont wear the right underwear (which by co-incidence can only be purchased from the mormon church) you are not going to heaven!"

Absolutely not true. There is no underwear requirement for Heaven.

and...

"Ever wear a cross necklace in front of a mormon ??
They run LIKE HELL from you !!
If you ask why, what the heck is going on...they will tell you that you're wearing the murder weapon around your neck !!"

Absolutely not true. We don't avoid the cross at all. But we don't emphasize His death so much as His resurrection and his reality today. But we don't criticize any person or church that does emphasize the cross. In fact, it is one of our Articles of Faith that we allow all others to worship in their own way.

The discussions about our beliefs during the next year should be interesting. But I find any obsession about anyone's underwear to be distasteful.

[Tumbleweed]

ArizonaDad just what is the story on the special underwear mormons wear?

[Old Herb Lady]

Some of this anti-Mormon hysteria is just bizarre. As examples:

".like, if you dont wear the right underwear (which by co-incidence can only be purchased from the mormon church) you are not going to heaven!"

Absolutely not true. There is no underwear requirement for Heaven.

and...

"Ever wear a cross necklace in front of a mormon ??
They run LIKE HELL from you !!
If you ask why, what the heck is going on...they will tell you that you're wearing the murder weapon around your neck !!"

Absolutely not true. We don't avoid the cross at all. But we don't emphasize His death so much as His resurrection and his reality today. But we don't criticize any person or church that does emphasize the cross. In fact, it is one of our Articles of Faith that we allow all others to worship in their own way.

The discussions about our beliefs during the next year should be interesting. But I find any obsession about anyone's underwear to be distasteful.


You have my full attention ! I am fascinated !!! Thank You for your reply !!
Please tell me, do the mormons in your area have a special kind of a drink that they drink at functions that just the mormons drink or is that just something
that some of the mormons do ? The running from the cross necklace---if your group doesn't do that, I am glad to hear it, but yes some of them do.
I just shouldn't have lumped all mormons together. That was my mistake for sure.
I just don't think that you can honestly speak for what all mormons do just as I cannot speak of what all baptists do.
All groups are different.

[zap]

We were told not to wear a cross, because it was worshiping a idol, I wear a cross now and again to remind me of god.

[Old Herb Lady]

We were told not to wear a cross, because it was worshiping a idol, I wear a cross now and again to remind me of god.


Hi Zappy, actually I didn't wear my cross necklaces for several years because I didn't want someone to think I was an idol worshipper cuz I'm NOT,
and didn't want people to get the wrong impression of why I was wearing it. Then I said HUH !! Enough of this craziness ! I'm wearing my necklace & I don't care what people think of me.
I started wearing it again because Jesus died for me and to let people know that I'm not afraid to help them to accept HIM as well.

[JDRock]

Some of this anti-Mormon hysteria is just bizarre. As examples:

".like, if you dont wear the right underwear (which by co-incidence can only be purchased from the mormon church) you are not going to heaven!"

Absolutely not true. There is no underwear requirement for Heaven.

and...

"Ever wear a cross necklace in front of a mormon ??
They run LIKE HELL from you !!
If you ask why, what the heck is going on...they will tell you that you're wearing the murder weapon around your neck !!"

Absolutely not true. We don't avoid the cross at all. But we don't emphasize His death so much as His resurrection and his reality today. But we don't criticize any person or church that does emphasize the cross. In fact, it is one of our Articles of Faith that we allow all others to worship in their own way.

The discussions about our beliefs during the next year should be interesting. But I find any obsession about anyone's underwear to be distasteful.
lemme guess...your mormon?
umm tell me, if your religion is true WHY cant i find one of your bibles from the 1820s.....or the late 1800s....or the early 60's....why do they call in the bibles every time a 'prophecy" of joe smith fails and DESTROY them?? and conviently get a new revalation and a whole new bible??

[ArizonaDad]

"Please tell me, do the mormons in your area have a special kind of a drink that they drink at functions that just the mormons drink"

At most of the ward parties and potlucks, there is usually a big Igloo full of tap water, sometimes with ice. Sometimes they spike it with Crystal Light or something like that and call it "lemonade". The pink variety goes over big with the young-uns. We do have special kinds of foods at the potlucks. Lots of jello, often green, with add-ins like celery, grated carrots, and raisins and such. Sometimes they mix in Cool Whip if they want to get fancy. We also have this thing called Funeral Potatoes, traditional served at the family lunch after a funeral. Everybody has their own recipe and thinks it is superior, or the "official" recipe. They usually contain frozen hash browns or Tater Tots, sour cream, and grated cheese, and maybe diced ham. Most everything at a church function is bought at Sam's Club. Green salads with various dressings are big, too. And the dinner rolls that come in a 36-count bag at Sam's Club, as well.

Weird, eh?

[ArizonaDad]

"umm tell me, if your religion is true WHY cant i find one of your bibles from the 1820s.....or the late 1800s....or the early 60's....why do they call in the bibles every time a 'prophecy" of joe smith fails and DESTROY them?? and conviently get a new revalation and a whole new bible???"

Bull Manure. We use the King James Version of the Bible, just as King James left it. And nobody ever "calls in" ANYTHING.

[Old Herb Lady]

"Please tell me, do the mormons in your area have a special kind of a drink that they drink at functions that just the mormons drink"

At most of the ward parties and potlucks, there is usually a big Igloo full of tap water, sometimes with ice. Sometimes they spike it with Crystal Light or something like that and call it "lemonade". The pink variety goes over big with the young-uns. We do have special kinds of foods at the potlucks. Lots of jello, often green, with add-ins like celery, grated carrots, and raisins and such. Sometimes they mix in Cool Whip if they want to get fancy. We also have this thing called Funeral Potatoes, traditional served at the family lunch after a funeral. Everybody has their own recipe and thinks it is superior, or the "official" recipe. They usually contain frozen hash browns or Tater Tots, sour cream, and grated cheese, and maybe diced ham. Most everything at a church function is bought at Sam's Club. Green salads with various dressings are big, too. And the dinner rolls that come in a 36-count bag at Sam's Club, as well.

Weird, eh?

That is VERY WEIRD !!!! All the mormons I know are STRICT vegans & vegetarians and would NEVER eat or drink that stuff you mentioned !!!!!! What !
Crystal Light is full of aspartame, tap water is full of fluoride, the pink stuff has dyes in it, shall I go on ? Sam's Club ? What happened to the massive gardens of organic green foods ?
I have NEVER EVER seen a mormon eat ham. Eeeeeek !!!!!!! That would be unheard of !!!
Me thinks you are a bit storytelling with the mormon business, my friend.

And underwear ? Who cares about talking about underwear ? Why is is disrespectful to talk about underwear ?
I don't care if someone wants to talk about my underwear. They're quite lovely with no secret code attached or nuthin' ?

OK, what's your deal dude ?

[Tumbleweed]

OHL here's a link to wikipedia with the information on the under garments. The symbols are the ones I saw and there is an explanation of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_garment

[ArizonaDad]

Old Herb Lady:

You must be working with a small subset of our very finest. But we do eat meat, even ham.

At my house, we do try to eat healthy and smart, but it isn't an obsession. Sometimes we even eat at McDonalds when we travel and the young-uns need an indoor PlayPlace. I think we're probably in the top 20% of Americans in the healthy, organic foods area. But I know that's a low standard.

We would NEVER have Crystal Light in our house.

[Old Herb Lady]

Old Herb Lady:

You must be working with a small subset of our very finest. But we do eat meat, even ham.

At my house, we do try to eat healthy and smart, but it isn't an obsession. Sometimes we even eat at McDonalds when we travel and the young-uns need an indoor PlayPlace. I think we're probably in the top 20% of Americans in the healthy, organic foods area. But I know that's a low standard.

We would NEVER have Crystal Light in our house.

Do you understand then why I said that you cannot speak for ALL mormons then ?
You cannot then completely deny that they don't run from cross necklaces, that they don't have special undies, and they do & don't do certain things, that's all.
I just have a very deep respect for them for the foods that they eat (the ones I know) and if you hang around them for a couple of days, they're really not obsessed with the way they eat, it's just their way of life.

[BrewTech]

"Please tell me, do the mormons in your area have a special kind of a drink that they drink at functions that just the mormons drink"

At most of the ward parties and potlucks, there is usually a big Igloo full of tap water, sometimes with ice. Sometimes they spike it with Crystal Light or something like that and call it "lemonade". The pink variety goes over big with the young-uns. We do have special kinds of foods at the potlucks. Lots of jello, often green, with add-ins like celery, grated carrots, and raisins and such. Sometimes they mix in Cool Whip if they want to get fancy. We also have this thing called Funeral Potatoes, traditional served at the family lunch after a funeral. Everybody has their own recipe and thinks it is superior, or the "official" recipe. They usually contain frozen hash browns or Tater Tots, sour cream, and grated cheese, and maybe diced ham. Most everything at a church function is bought at Sam's Club. Green salads with various dressings are big, too. And the dinner rolls that come in a 36-count bag at Sam's Club, as well.

Weird, eh?

It is weird. Considering the reputation Mormons have for survival prepping, you would think they would have better choices for food when the times were better...

Crystal light? jello? tater tots? sam's club dinner rolls?

Why bother prepping if you are just going to kill yourselves with shit that ain't food?

[ArizonaDad]

Old Herb Lady did hit it right on the head. We are all different, and you don't get closer to understanding us by thinking that we are all alike.

We do share a core set of beliefs, and they are centered around Jesus Christ. We are also obsessive about our families. We believe that "No success in life can compensate for failure in the home."

[Old Herb Lady]

Thank You arizonaDad & I appreciate your very kind words.......please remember that you did say first "absolutely not true" and that is the reason you got vehemently questioned. But now you're saying there are differences & that you're not all the same , so please don't get offended in the future when we discuss weird Mormon beliefs, it doesn't mean that we are talking about 'ALL' Mormons, just the ones with the freakyweird goin' on OK !
Be blessed !!




Some of this anti-Mormon hysteria is just bizarre. As examples:

".like, if you dont wear the right underwear (which by co-incidence can only be purchased from the mormon church) you are not going to heaven!"

Absolutely not true. There is no underwear requirement for Heaven.

and...

"Ever wear a cross necklace in front of a mormon ??
They run LIKE HELL from you !!
If you ask why, what the heck is going on...they will tell you that you're wearing the murder weapon around your neck !!"

Absolutely not true. We don't avoid the cross at all. But we don't emphasize His death so much as His resurrection and his reality today. But we don't criticize any person or church that does emphasize the cross. In fact, it is one of our Articles of Faith that we allow all others to worship in their own way.

The discussions about our beliefs during the next year should be interesting. But I find any obsession about anyone's underwear to be distasteful.

[ArizonaDad]

People tend to think of us as mysterious, and that our doctrines are inaccessible. Nothing could be farther from the truth. I don't know of any church that makes its doctrines and teachings as accessible as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

We have a teaching program that is uniform world-wide. On any given Sunday, you will find the same lessons taught wherever you are in the world, and whatever the language. And all the lessons are available to anyone on the internet. Just go to lds.org, click on "Menu", then click on "Manuals" in the far right column. For the basics, go to "Sunday School", then the "Gospel Principles" manual. For the regular manual for the grown-ups, go to "Sunday School", then the "New Testament Gospel Doctrine Teachers' Manual"

If you want to know "what the Mormons really teach", it's all there.

If you want the hay that's already been through the bull, see your local preacher.

[Old Herb Lady]

Dude, you just flip-flopped on me ! First you came on this thread grouping all of you together.
Then you said that you're all different in post #27
and now your saying that ALL of the teachings are the same !

Iy, yiy, yiy !!!!

Good Night ! This place drives me crazy !!!!

[Dogman]

Dude, you just flip-flopped on me ! First you came on this thread grouping all of you together.
Then you said that you're all different in post #27
and now your saying that ALL of the teachings are the same !

Iy, yiy, yiy !!!!

Good Night ! This place drives me crazy !!!!


Gsus only the best! 1944

Never a topic or boring issue or topic!

[ArizonaDad]

Goodnight all!

The children are nestled all snug in their beds...

An I think I will do the same.

[sirgonzo420]

Yes! GSUS has a resident mormon!

How come the mormons who knock on my door don't like to talk about Kolob?

Why doesn't the bible mention lucifer being the brother of Jesus?

By the way, I don't have a problem with your beliefs. I just find the Church of LDS to be... not so upfront, and deceptive even.


Here's a thread I started last time the LDS visited me (feel free to chime in):

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?55172-a-couple-mormons-stopped-by-today....

[sirgonzo420]

Some of this anti-Mormon hysteria is just bizarre. As examples:

".like, if you dont wear the right underwear (which by co-incidence can only be purchased from the mormon church) you are not going to heaven!"

Absolutely not true. There is no underwear requirement for Heaven.

and...

"Ever wear a cross necklace in front of a mormon ??
They run LIKE HELL from you !!
If you ask why, what the heck is going on...they will tell you that you're wearing the murder weapon around your neck !!"

Absolutely not true. We don't avoid the cross at all. But we don't emphasize His death so much as His resurrection and his reality today. But we don't criticize any person or church that does emphasize the cross. In fact, it is one of our Articles of Faith that we allow all others to worship in their own way.

The discussions about our beliefs during the next year should be interesting. But I find any obsession about anyone's underwear to be distasteful.

Aren't there multiple "levels" of heaven?

Can you get into the "Priesthood" without the "temple garments"?

You can get into the lower heaven without the underwear, but you can't be your own god with your own planet without them though, right?

Also, you guys got secret handshakes too, don't you?

[Tumbleweed]

We were told not to wear a cross, because it was worshiping a idol, I wear a cross now and again to remind me of god.

Zap are you Mormon? I've been around Mormons quite a bit and they were good people. I liked them and their communities but I believe Joseph Smith led them astray.

[sirgonzo420]

Zap are you Mormon? I've been around Mormons quite a bit and they were good people. I liked them and their communities but I believe Joseph Smith led them astray.

I feel the same. Mormons are often good people. I merely find their beliefs interesting...

[zap]

Zap are you Mormon? I've been around Mormons quite a bit and they were good people. I liked them and their communities but I believe Joseph Smith led them astray.

No Tumbleweed, I was raised ( Assembly of God ) Pentacostal, lol I didn't know it at the time, Only the Catholics worshipped idols and ate the bread and thought it was god, thats what I was told. I remember liking sunday school, but as I got older it was scary and weird, kinda turned me off to organized religion.

[sirgonzo420]

No Tumbleweed, I was raised ( Assembly of God ) Pentacostal, lol I didn't know it at the time, Only the Catholics worshipped idols and ate the bread and thought it was god, thats what I was told. I remember liking sunday school, but as I got older it was scary and weird, kinda turned me off to organized religion.


Did they talk in tongues there?

lol

All religions are weird. I guess I'm a sucker for weirdness!

[zap]

I said Darn it once, OMG I was going straight to hell for sure ! You would have thought I stabbed somebody in the eye. I am sure they did speak in tongues, but I refused to go after I was 10 or so, It wasn't so much my parents went to church, it was my gramma and grandpa on my dads side. I have taken my little one to a Baptist church, which isn't so scary, except the people beleive every word in the bible,( Oh I don't know.)

[sirgonzo420]

I said Darn it once, OMG I was going straight to hell for sure ! You would have thought I stabbed somebody in the eye. I am sure they did speak in tongues, but I refused to go after I was 10 or so, It wasn't so much my parents went to church, it was my gramma and grandpa on my dads side. I have taken my little one to a Baptist church, which isn't so scary, except the people beleive every word in the bible,( Oh I don't know.)



You have plenty of company among the "damned".

lol

[EE_]

I've already put in for the ice water concession permit.

[Old Herb Lady]

I've already put in for the ice water concession permit.

Dear EE Sir,

Thank You for your inquiry into the permit application & requirements for ice water at the Mormon functions/ potlucks.
Unfortunately at this time your permit is being denied. It is out of our jurisdiction and if the community itself would like to take a vote
to see how many would be in favor of the ice and how many would not be in favor of the ice may be a more suitable solution to your problem.
Then perhaps you could tally the votes and "put in a call" to the superiors for compliance in the matter.

As far as we are concerned, as long as you are making the ice cubes from government regulated fluoridated tap water
and adding them into tap water, you are in complete compliance with us and we defintitely approve this as completely acceptable
and encourage you to drink as much as possible !

Sincerely,
Ice & Water Authority Permit Dept.