The bashing of Ron Paul is going into full gear

[General of Darkness]

All you have to do is go to google.com or any other search engine to see it.

Hell I just saw Faux news bring up the racist bullshit.

Be ready RP supports, the shit is going to hit the fan against RP. The establishment HATES him, everything he stands for is anti-establishment.

On a personal level as a high tech sales person in CA, I'll probably have to move if RP is elected since the only people spending money in mass is the State.

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All you have to do is go to google.com or any other search engine to see it.

Hell I just saw Faux news bring up the racist bullshit.

Be ready RP supports, the shit is going to hit the fan against RP. The establishment HATES him, everything he stands for is anti-establishment.

On a personal level as a high tech sales person in CA, I'll probably have to move if RP is elected since the only people spending money in mass is the State.

Edit:
Israel HATES him, everything he stands for is anti-Israel establishment.
Since all the funding for his smear campaign comes from the Zionist.

[Libertytree]

I've said this before..but we had to expect that as Ron gained momentum and started polling well, let alone taking the lead in many of them, that this shit would show back up, just as did did in 07/08. It didn't have much of a life back then and it won't now either, RP will handle it in his way, no problem. The great thing is, is that is the ONLY thing they've ever remotely been able to throw at him.

On your personal level...it might work out the other way too, in a freer business environment you could possibly do better than ever before!

[General of Darkness]

On your personal level...it might work out the other way too, in a freer business environment you could possibly do better than ever before!

LT that's the only solution.

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/video-surfaces-ron-paul-talking-racist-newsletters-1995-earlier-knew-article-1.995876

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All they've got is fear and smears -


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUHH8tjYg2A&feature=youtu.be

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This black man gets it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEtxmwAU3h0&feature=related

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This black man gets it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEtxmwAU3h0&feature=related

Let's post some more chewbacca threads that should help.

[Libertytree]

Let's post some more chewbacca threads that should help.

Did you listen to any of that vid PB? That ain't no chewbacca post dude! That guy has it right!

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Did you listen to any of that vid PB? That ain't no chewbacca post dude! That guy has it right!
Don't get me wrong LT I 've take more shit for RP than I will type ,but for he average person it don't mean shit. The crap printed in those letters has a good chance of sinking his shot of POTUS.

I'm sick of the stormfront shit fucking the guy. It pisses me of to no end to see people who know media tactics continue on with the same crap that will be used as ammo later.

Whoever wrote that shit should be slapped for screwing all of us for their few minutes of hate.

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Don't get me wrong LT I 've take more shit for RP than I will type ,but for he average person it don't mean shit. The crap printed in those letters has a good chance of sinking his shot of POTUS.

I'm sick of the stormfront shit fucking the guy. It pisses me of to no end to see people who know media tactics continue on with the same crap that will be used as ammo later.

Whoever wrote that shit should be slapped for screwing all of us for their few minutes of hate.

I'm sure the guy could be found.
I'd like to see him step forward, own up to the news letter he had written without RP's approval, and apologize.
It sure would piss off the Fox news Zionist pigs.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

In the last 48 hours, the situation has changed.

The mod of www.reddit.com/r/conservative has banned ALL posts related to Ron Paul. I told them I was too conservative for them, and left.

A surge of "Ron Paul is racist!" comments have popped up all over the web. No direct quotes from Paul have been found to substantiate these claims. They are all quotes from people who are NOT ron paul, but worked for him. Please judge Ron based on his OWN words and not those of someone else! Here are some direct quotes from Paul which disprove them:

Exhibit A: Vociferously Supports an Anti-Racist Agenda

"Libertarianism is the enemy of all racism, because racism is a collectivist idea that you put people in categories. You say, well blacks belong here, and whites here, and women here and we don't see people in forms..or gays. You don't have rights because your gays, or women or minorities, you have rights because you’re an individual. So we see people strictly as individuals. We get these individuals in a natural way. So it's exactly opposite of all collectivism and it's absolutely anti-racism because we don't see it in those terms. "

-Ron Paul on Bill Moyers Journal, January 4, 2008

Exhibit B: Ferociously Insists that Courts and The Death Penalty are Racist

“That’s a pretty good question. Because people, somebody asked me yesterday, "When was the last time you ever changed your opinion? And I said well, it's been a while since I've had a major change of opinion, but I try to understand and study and figure out how things work you know and become better at economics and all.

But on that issue (the death penalty), I did have a change of opinion. And I stated this in the debates last go around, they asked…they asked a similar question, ‘when did you change your opinion last?’ And uh, and it, that was just not overnight, but I, my position now is, that since I'm a federal official and I would be a U.S. president, is I do not believe in the federal death penalty and in my book “Liberty Defined”, I explain in it more detail , but basically I make the argument for, uh, against the death penalty but I would not come and say the federal government and the federal courts should tell the states they can't have the death penalty anymore. I don’t go that far.

But no, I just don't think the uh ..with the scientific evidence now- I think I read an article yesterday on the death penalty, and 68 percent of the time they make mistakes. And it’s so racist, too. I think more than half the people getting the death penalty are poor blacks. This is the one place, the one remnant of racism in our country is in the court system, enforcing the drug laws and enforcing the death penalty. I don’t even know, but I wonder how many of those, how many have been executed? Over 200, I wonder how many were minorities? You know, if you're rich, you usually don't meet the death penalty.”

-Ron Paul, Interview with the Concord Monitor Editorial Board, August 18, 2011

Exhibit C: Stubbornly Refuses to Deny That Government Legalized Racism is Cruel and Unjust

“No form of political organization, therefore, is immune to cruel abuses like the Jim Crow laws, whereby government sets out to legislate on how groups of human beings are allowed to interact with one another.

Peaceful civil disobedience to unjust laws, which I support with every fiber of my being, can sometimes be necessary at any level of government. It falls upon the people, in the last resort, to stand against injustice no matter where it occurs.

In the long run, the only way racism can be overcome is through the philosophy of individualism, which I have promoted throughout my life. Our rights come to us not because we belong to some group, but our rights come to us as individuals. And it is as individuals that we should judge one another.

Racism is a particularly odious form of collectivism whereby individuals are treated not on their merits but on the basis of group identity. Nothing in my political philosophy, which is the exact opposite of the racial totalitarianism of the twentieth century, gives aid or comfort to such thinking. To the contrary, my philosophy of individualism is the most radical intellectual challenge to racism ever posed.

Government exacerbates racial thinking and undermines individualism because its very existence encourages people to organize along racial lines in order to lobby for benefits for their group. That lobbying, in turn, creates animosity and suspicion among all groups, each of which believes that it is getting less of its fair share than the others.

Instead, we should quit thinking in terms of race—yes, in 2008 it is still necessary to say that we should Stop thinking in terms of race—and recognize that freedom and prosperity benefit all Americans.”

-Ron Paul, ‘The Revolution: A Manifesto”, 2008

Exhibit D: Refuses to Deny that Courts Discriminate Against Minorities

“But in order to attract Latino votes, I think, you know, too long this country has always put people in groups. They penalize people because they’re in groups, and then they reward people because they’re in groups.

But following up on what Newt was saying, we need a healthy economy, we wouldn’t be talking about this. We need to see everybody as an individual. And to me, seeing everybody as an individual means their liberties are protected as individuals and they’re treated that way and they’re never penalized that way.

So if you have a free and prosperous society, all of a sudden this group mentality melts away. As long as there’s no abuse — one place where there’s still a lot of discrimination in this country is in our court systems. And I think the minorities come up with a short hand in our court system."

-Ron Paul, CNN Western Republican Debate, October 18, 2011

Exhibit E: Refuses to Back the Unfair Punishment of Minorities

"A system designed to protect individual liberty will have no punishments for any group and no privileges.

Today, I think inner-city folks and minorities are punished unfairly in the war on drugs.

For instance, Blacks make up 14% of those who use drugs, yet 36 percent of those arrested are Blacks and it ends up that 63% of those who finally end up in prison are Blacks. This has to change.

We don’t have to have more courts and more prisons. We need to repeal the whole war on drugs. It isn’t working. We have already spent over $400 billion since the early 1970s, and it is wasted money. Prohibition didn’t work. Prohibition on drugs doesn’t work. So we need to come to our senses. And, absolutely, it’s a disease. We don’t treat alcoholics like this. This is a disease, and we should orient ourselves to this. That is one way you could have equal justice under the law."

-Ron Paul, 2007 GOP Presidential Forum at Morgan State University, September 27, 2007

Exhibit F: Vehemently Insists that Drug Wars Harms Blacks and Other Minorities Disproportionately

“…the federal war on drugs has wrought disproportionate harm on minority communities.

Allowing for states’ rights here would surely be an improvement, for the states could certainly do a better and more sensible job than the federal government has been doing if they were free to decide the issue for themselves. And although people studying my record will discover how consistent I have been over the years, they will uncover one major shift: in recent years I have dropped my support for the federal death penalty.

It is a dangerous power for the federal government to have, and it is exercised in a discriminatory way: if you are poor and black, you are much more likely to receive this punishment.

We should not think in terms of whites, blacks, Hispanics, and other such groups. That kind of thinking only divides us. The only us-versus-them thinking in which we might indulge is the people—all the people— versus the government, which loots and lies to us all, threatens our liberties, and shreds our Constitution.

That’s not a white or black issue. That’s an American issue, and it’s one on which Americans of all races can unite in a spirit of goodwill. That may be why polls in 2007 found ours the most popular Republican campaign among black voters.”

-Ron Paul, “The Revolution: A Manifesto”, 2008

Exhibit G: Openly Admits That Skin Color should be Irrelevant in Society. That Racism is a Sin.

“Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans only as members of groups and never as individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike; as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called “diversity” actually perpetuate racism. Their intense focus on race is inherently racist, because it views individuals only as members of racial groups.

Conservatives and libertarians should fight back and challenge the myth that collectivist liberals care more about racism. Modern liberalism, however, well-intentioned, is a byproduct of the same collectivist thinking that characterizes racism. The continued insistence on group thinking only inflames racial tensions.

The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims.

Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence, not skin color, gender, or ethnicity. In a free market, businesses that discriminate lose customers, goodwill, and valuable employees- while rational businesses flourish by choosing the most qualified employees and selling to all willing buyers. More importantly, in a free society every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality.

This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Rather than looking to government to correct what is essentially a sin of the heart, we should understand that reducing racism requires a shift from group thinking to an emphasis on individualism.”

-Ron Paul, “What Really Divides Us”, December 23, 2002

Exhibit G-2: Despises Political and Media Code Words for Racism.

“Worst of all, the left has gotten away with using “extreme” as a code word for “racist.” The exceedingly thin “evidence” given for the racism allegation is that Ashcroft once voted against the nomination of a federal judge who happened to be black. Never mind that more than 50 other Senators voted with Ashcroft; the left is all to eager to assure us that the only conceivable rationale is that Ashcroft is a racist. This type of smearing, aided and abetted by a complicit media, is at the heart of the left’s efforts to demonize conservatives who dare oppose their unconstitutional agenda.”

– Ron Paul, “The Ashcroft Controversy Exposes Disdain for Conservative Principles”, January 22, 2001

Exhibit H: Hates Racist Government Stereotyping of Wants and Needs

“One of the worst aspects of the census is its focus on classifying people by race. When government tells us it wants information to help any given group, it assumes every individual who shares certain physical characteristics has the same interests, or wants the same things from government. This is an inherently racist and offensive assumption. The census, like so many federal policies and programs, inflames racism by encouraging Americans to see themselves as members of racial groups fighting each other for a share of the federal pie.”

-Ron Paul, “None of Your Business”, July 12, 2004

Exhibit I: Hates Racist and Xenophobic Government Profiling

“We can think back no further than July of 1996, when a plane carrying several hundred people suddenly and mysteriously crashed off the coast of Long Island. Within days, Congress had passed emergency legislation calling for costly new security measures, including a controversial “screening” method which calls for airlines to arbitrarily detain passengers just because the person meets certain criteria which border on racist and xenophobic.”

-Ron Paul, “Emotion Should Never Dictate Policy”, January 12, 1998

Exhibit K and L: Despises Racist Laws that Intend to Harm What others Called “Cheap Colored Labor”

“The racist effects of Davis-Bacon are no mere coincidence. In fact, many original supporters of Davis-Bacon, such as Representative Clayton Allgood, bragged about supporting Davis-Bacon as a means of keeping cheap colored labor out of the construction industry.”

-Ron Paul, “Repeal of the Davis-Bacon Law”, October 23, 1997, Before the House of Representatives

“The racist effects of Davis-Bacon are no mere coincidence. In fact, many original supporters of Davis-Bacon, such as Representative Clayton Allgood, bragged about supporting Davis-Bacon as a means of keeping `cheap colored labor’ out of the construction industry.”

-Ron Paul, “Introducing the Davis-Bacon Repeal Act”, February 11, 1999, Before the House of Representatives

Exhibit M: Hates Foreign Aid to African Dictators Who Turn Aid into a “Power to Impoverish” their People

African poverty is rooted in government corruption, corruption that actually is fostered by western aid. We should ask ourselves a simple question: Why is private capital so scarce in Africa? The obvious answer is that many African nations are ruled by terrible men who pursue disastrous economic policies. As a result, American aid simply enriches dictators, distorts economies, and props up bad governments. We could send Africa $1 trillion, and the continent still would remain mired in poverty simply because so many of its nations reject property rights, free markets, and the rule of law. As commentator Joseph Potts explains, western money enables dictators like Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe to gain and hold power without the support of his nation’s people. African rulers learn to manipulate foreign governments and obtain an independent source of income, which makes them far richer and more powerful than any of their political rivals. Once comfortably in power, and much to the horror of the western governments that funded them, African dictators find their subjects quite helpless and dependent. Potts describes this process as giving African politicians the “power to impoverish.”

-Ron Paul, “What Should Americans do for Africa?”, July 11, 2005, Before the House of Representatives

Exhibit O: Insists on Congratulating our First African-American President. MLK “Would be Proud”

“With the election behind us, our country turns hopeful eyes to the future. I have a few hopes of my own. I congratulate our first African-American president-elect. Martin Luther King, Jr. certainly would be proud to see this day. We are stronger for embracing diversity, and I am hopeful that we can continue working through the tensions and wrongs of the past and become a more just and colorblind society. I hope this new administration will help bring us together, and not further divide us. I have always found that freedom is the best way to break down barriers. A free society emphasizes the importance of individuals, and not because they are part of a certain group. That’s the only way equal justice can be achieved.”

-Ron Paul, “Hope for the Future”, November 9, 2008

Exhibit P: "Despises Racial and Ethnic Stereotyping by Self Serving Politicians"

“After 200 years, the constitutional protection of the right of the individual to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is virtually gone. Today’s current terminology describing rights reflects this sad change. It is commonplace for politicians and those desiring special privileges to refer to: black rights, Hispanic rights, handicap rights, employee rights, student rights, minority rights, women’s rights, gay rights, children’s rights, student rights, Asian-American rights, Jewish rights, AIDS victims’ rights, poverty rights, homeless rights, etc. Unless all the terms are dropped & we recognize that only an individual has rights, the solution to the mess in which we find ourselves will not be found. The longer we lack of definition of rights, the worse the economic and social problems will be.”

-Ron Paul, “Freedom Under Siege”, by Ron Paul, p. 14-15 Dec 31, 1987

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Newsletters, Statements Cause Campaign Trail Problems for Ron Paul


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Ron Paul (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/ron-paul.htm#r_src=ramp) is facing new questions on the campaign trail about inflammatory newsletters dating back to the 1980s, as the outsider Republican candidate gains steam in Iowa just days before the caucuses.
The newsletters from the 1980s and 1990s, under names like Ron Paul's Freedom Report and the Ron Paul Investment Letter, contained several instances of racially charged language and other offensive statements. While the newsletters have attracted renewed scrutiny in the media over the last few days, Newt Gingrich (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/newt-gingrich.htm#r_src=ramp) piled on Friday, saying the missives raise "fundamental questions" about the libertarian-leaning Texas congressman.

"These things are really nasty, and he didn't know about it? Wasn't aware of it?" Gingrich said at a stop in South Carolina.
Paul has since denied writing, and in some cases even reading, some of the newsletters that bore his name. But the issue could continue to haunt him as he rides a wave of support in Iowa at just the right time.
A line from one of the newsletters referring to the 1992 riots in Los Angeles said: "Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks."
Reuters this week also reported on an ad for the newsletters from the early '90s that discussed "the coming race war in our big cities" and the "federal-homosexual cover-up on AIDS" -- all under Paul's name.
Paul told Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/24/newsletters-statements-cause-campaign-trail-problems-for-ron-paul/#) on Friday that if he's guilty of anything, it's negligence.
"I think the charge, which could be a correct charge, is I was pretty negligent as a publisher of a newsletter, not paying more attention," Paul said, adding: "I think that if someone thinks I'm perfect, then they are going to be disappointed."
But he said any attempt to portray him as racist would be "ironic," because as a civil libertarian he "champions civil liberties, regardless of race, creed, or color."
"The judicial system is very unfair to minorities. Nobody else would dare touch that," Paul said.
Paul said the controversial passages in those newsletters represented "probably one-hundredth of 1 percent or even less of all the thousands and thousands of pages."
He said they were mostly about financial and economic issues.
Paul's explanation has attracted skepticism from Gingrich and others.
"Now Ron Paul wants us to believe he didn't know anything about these newsletters even though he was profiting from them?" questioned Rich Lowry, editor of the National Review.
Paul's well-known positions on foreign policy and other issues are also attracting new scrutiny.
After Rep. Michele Bachmann (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/michele-bachmann.htm#r_src=ramp), R-Minn., got in a tense dispute with Paul at the most recent presidential primary debate over his foreign policy views, Gingrich on Saturday assailed Paul's "isolationist" policies.
"The only person I know who's for a weaker military than Barack Obama (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/obama-administration/barack-obama.htm#r_src=ramp) is Ron Paul," Gingrich said. "His positions are fundamentally wrong on national security."
Paul wants to dramatically shrink the U.S. military presence around the world and has rejected as war propaganda warnings about the Iranian nuclear program.
Paul also once criticized the government's (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/24/newsletters-statements-cause-campaign-trail-problems-for-ron-paul/#) treatment of WikiLeaks (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/iraq/wikileaks.htm#r_src=ramp) suspect Bradley Manning (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/bradley-manning.htm#r_src=ramp).
"Should he be locked up in prison or should we see him as a political hero? Maybe he is a true patriot -- who reveals what's going on in government," Paul said.
Karl Rove (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/karl-rove.htm#r_src=ramp), former adviser to former President George W. Bush (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/george-bush.htm#r_src=ramp), said if any other candidate had made that kind of a statement, "it would be on the front page of the newspaper."
Analysts say most GOP contenders don't take Paul seriously enough to spend any of their campaign cash on ads highlighting his edgy positions, and that the statements actually work against him with the GOP base. For the time being, Paul's numbers are soaring in Iowa, where several recent polls have put him a few points ahead of Gingrich and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.
But while it may be unlikely that Paul will be the GOP nominee, some experts believe he will have a significant impact on who ultimately is.
"My sense like the last time -- he stayed in the race all the way. He'll have delegates this time and he can play some kind of a role if the race is close," said Republican strategist Ed Rollins.
Fox News' Shannon Bream contributed to this report.



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AP Enterprise: Nonprofits aiding Paul blur a line

By Ryan J. Foley Associated Press / December 24, 2011

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IOWA CITY, Iowa—The passionate support of an eclectic group of libertarians and young people has Ron Paul in contention to win the Iowa caucus. So has the work of two well-funded nonprofits that for the past three years have kept his aides employed, his volunteers organized and his ideas afloat.

Those nonprofits, including Paul's flagship Campaign for Liberty, blur the line between his presidential campaign and issue advocacy in a way experts say runs afoul of the spirit, and perhaps the letter, of federal tax and campaign finance law.

But unlike a political campaign organization, whose finances are tightly regulated and made public, such advocacy nonprofits can raise unlimited sums of money and aren't required to disclose where it came from or all the details about how it was spent.

"It sounds like it was a way to maintain a permanent campaign," said Melanie Sloan, executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a nonpartisan watchdog group. "These groups were never supposed to be political organizations, but more and more, we're seeing them used that way. All of this is leading to our elections getting more and more out of control with fewer regulations."

Paul, a 76-year-old Texas congressman, finished fifth in the 2008 Iowa caucus and abandoned his long-shot presidential campaign that summer. As he left the race, he urged his supporters to continue their fight for libertarian principles by joining his new group, the Campaign for Liberty. He called the transformation of his presidential campaign into the nonprofit a "legal formality" that would allow him to continue building his famously energetic network of volunteers, online activists and college students.

The Campaign for Liberty and Young Americans for Liberty, a separate group formed to spread his message to high school and college students, were organized as "social welfare organizations" under U.S. tax law. That means they cannot make politics and promoting candidates their primary activities.

The groups quickly found a home in the tea party movement, hosting conferences, training activists and distributing petitions asking members of Congress to support one of Paul's signature policies -- a plan to audit the Federal Reserve. The Campaign for Liberty raised more than $13 million between 2008 and 2010 that paid for direct mail, telemarketing, staff salaries and other expenses. The group claims more than 600,000 members and more than 170 chapters of Young Americans for Liberty at high schools and colleges.

Drew Ivers, who founded the Iowa chapter of Campaign for Liberty, said the nonprofit's goal was never to lay the groundwork for Paul's 2012 presidential campaign. Organizers were careful to separate political work from the work of advocating Paul's ideas, he added. But he acknowledged the organization has helped Paul in Iowa, which will hold its first-in-the-nation presidential nominating caucuses on Jan. 3.


"It kept the ideas alive. And as people who were involved in the Campaign for Liberty liked the idea of limited government, they look at the field of presidential candidates and say, `You know, I think Ron Paul is serious about this idea,'" Ivers said.

The other candidates from 2008 who are again running in 2012 also took steps between campaigns to build their political clout. President Barack Obama formed his "Organizing for America" group at the Democratic National Committee, while Republican Mitt Romney used a political action committee to raise money, shower donations on lawmakers and pay for his travel to key states. Paul had a PAC, too.

But the finances of both the DNC and political action committees such as Romney's Free and Strong America PAC -- unlike Paul's nonprofits -- are regulated by the Federal Election Commission and subject to financial disclosure rules.

Paul's presidential campaign is thoroughly intertwined with the nonprofits. The Campaign for Liberty calls itself a lobbying group for "individual liberty, constitutional government, sound money, free markets and a noninterventionist foreign policy" -- a tidy summation of Paul's campaign platform. Young Americans for Liberty's support of Paul is even more explicit, calling itself the continuation of the Students for Ron Paul wing of his 2008 campaign, coordinating his visits to campuses and publishing a magazine in which he laid out his "agenda for a freedom president."

Between the 2008 and 2012 campaigns, both nonprofits were stocked with Paul aides and relatives. Ivers served as Paul's Iowa campaign chairman in 2008 and holds the same position again this year. The Campaign for Liberty's president, John Tate, was paid a total of $338,000 by the group in 2009 and 2010. He is now Paul's national campaign manager. The nonprofit's senior vice president was Jesse Benton, who is now Paul's campaign chairman; its vice president was Debbie Hopper, who is now Paul's assistant campaign manager.

Lori Pyeatt, Paul's daughter, served until recently as the Campaign for Liberty's part-time secretary and treasurer, earning $34,000 for her work last year. Her daughter is married to Benton. Paul's son Ronnie is the group's unpaid chairman.

In all, nine out of the 16 staff members at the Campaign for Liberty are on leaves of absence from the group to work for Paul's campaign. The nonprofit's executive director, Matthew Hawes, said the group is still able to function and is an active advocate on state and federal issues unrelated to Paul's presidential campaign.

Paul campaign spokesman Gary Howard -- who for 18 months served as the Campaign for Liberty's spokesman -- said Paul resigned as Campaign for Liberty's honorary chairman when he joined the presidential race and believes the nonprofits complied with Internal Revenue Service rules. Still, like Ivers, he acknowledged the nonprofits have indirectly aided the campaign by training activists and raising his issues.

Paul isn't the first to use such a strategy to keep his name in the public's view between bids for the White House. Democrat John Edwards did the same between the 2004 and 2008 campaigns by founding a nonprofit center dedicated to fighting poverty, his central campaign issue.

Federal investigators later issued a subpoena for information about Edwards' nonprofit, according to details previously provided to The Associated Press. An attorney for Edwards has said the nonprofit paid money to Edwards' mistress' video production firm, and the former senator from North Carolina was later indicted on campaign finance charges related to payments from wealthy donors that were used to help hide the woman.

Marcus Owens, a Washington lawyer who headed the exempt organizations division at the IRS from 1990 to 2000, questions whether such nonprofits were truly designed to serve the "social welfare purpose" as required by law.

In Paul's case, the groups also helped his son's political career. At least two aides from the Campaign for Liberty left to help Rand Paul win election to the U.S. Senate in Kentucky last year.

"Any family campaign seems to draw them out. It's not conclusive, but it tends to suggest a private, not a public, purpose behind the organization," Owens said. "It's not a social welfare purpose to keep a campaign staff together and to promote the personal ideas of one individual."http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/File-Based_Image_Resource/dingbat_story_end_icon.gif

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Their pulling this shit from weeks ago and reposting...

Paul is adamant skeptic of US foreign power

Candidate’s views draw fans, fury

By Tracy Jan (http://search.boston.com/local/Search.do?s.sm.query=Tracy+Jan&camp=localsearch:on:byline:art) Globe Staff / December 24, 2011

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DOWS, Iowa - He has set himself apart from the rest of the Republican field as the candidate who believes the United States should shed its role as the world’s policeman and focus instead on its internal economic problems. Representative Ron Paul of Texas says he would cut a trillion dollars out of the federal budget his first year as president, in part by ending all foreign wars and foreign aid, including to Israel.

Many conservatives characterize Paul’s foreign policy stance as extremist, isolationist, and anti-Israel, calling it a weakness that caps his support. Nearly half of those polled by ABC News and the Washington Post said it is a major reason to reject him. But with less than two weeks to go before Iowa’s first-in-the-nation caucuses, those views have not stopped - and may have helped - Paul in his emergence as a real threat to front-runners Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney.

During last week’s debate in Sioux City, the Air Force veteran criticized what he considers undue concern in Washington over the possibility of Iran developing a nuclear weapon. “It’s another Iraq coming,’’ he said. “There’s war propaganda going on. . . . The greatest danger is that we will have a president that will overreact and we will soon bomb Iran.’’

Paul has also laid some of the blame for the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on US foreign policy and advocated normalized relations with Cuba.

Paul’s anti-establishment policies resonate with a deep well of grassroots supporters who include a vocal segment of the Christian right here in Iowa who do not believe in nation building at the point of a sword - even when it comes to protecting Israel - as well as college students who have lived much of their lives knowing only a nation at war.

Young people, traditionally the least likely demographic to vote, let alone caucus, have mobilized around the 76-year-old congressman’s campaign unlike any other candidacy, with Youth for Ron Paul chapters springing up at many college campuses here in recent months. Hundreds of college-aged volunteers around the nation plan to give up a week of their holiday break and descend upon Iowa after Christmas to knock on doors, make phone calls, and motivate voters to turn out for the caucuses.

“A lot of people my age are rejecting the notion that the US has a right to go anywhere it wants to in the world,’’ said Ryan Lockard, a 21-year-old biology major at the University of Northern Iowa who leads the campus chapter of Youth for Ron Paul. “The Iraq war debacle is a big part of it.’’

Several college student leaders volunteering with the Paul campaign said his bid to end the war on drugs is what initially attracted many of their peers. But it is his strict constitutionalist views and air of authenticity that keep students coming back. Paul’s appearances at colleges routinely draw standing-room only crowds.


“Young conservatives want to see somebody who wants to tackle the spending issue and stop kicking the can down the road and putting the burden on us,’’ said Ben Levine, a Drake University sophomore and precinct captain for Paul. “It’s not that we’re a bunch of hard-core antiwar protesters, but I think we need to be a little more humble and prudent with how we deal with our foreign policy.’’

College-aged voters also appreciate that Paul would not put men and women of their generation in harm’s way unnecessarily.

“We just went through that with Iraq, and we can’t afford it,’’ Levine said.

Many Christian conservatives, though, see Paul’s policy toward Israel as his greatest liability, in addition to his libertarian views on social issues that keep him from supporting constitutional amendments against same-sex marriage and abortion.

“Most evangelical Christians believe we have a duty to protect the nation of Israel,’’ said Steve Scheffler, president of the Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition.

On Thursday, Gingrich joined in the criticism of Paul for minimizing threats to the United States and Israel in an interview with a conservative radio commentator.

The Rev. Albert Calaway, a retired Assemblies of God minister and influential Iowa pastor who recently endorsed former senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, told the Des Moines Register that Paul is “unacceptable to many evangelical Christians in Iowa because he would cut off all US military aid to Israel, possibly creating conditions for a Holocaust in the Holy Land.’’

“Imagine singing ‘O Little Town of Bethlehem’ after a President Ron Paul turns his back on God’s chosen people and Islamist missiles or ovens fill Israel’s skies with blackness,’’ Calaway said.

Paul, who was the only serious candidate not invited to a recent Republican Jewish Coalition presidential forum in Washington because of his views, has said repeatedly that his support for Israel means treating it “as an independent nation and not as a puppet of our state.’’

Drew Ivers, Paul’s Iowa state chairman, admits it has been a challenge for the campaign to break through to the wider Christian community with Paul’s message of simply wanting to give Israel “the autonomy to self-govern, self-defend, and self-determine their own destiny.’’

But he said the campaign is securing more endorsements each day from Christian pastors as Paul’s explanation is better understood.

Paul can also rely on a tightly organized troop of loyal, motivated volunteers, many of whom have honed their message since his failed presidential bid in 2008.

After Sunday services at a church basement in Dows, a rural town about 90 minutes from Des Moines, half a dozen Christian families who home school their children gathered for a potluck and political discussion with their pastor, Doug Holmes, an ardent Paul supporter who also caucused for him in 2008.

“The church is misguided in thinking that we somehow have a right to interfere in another nation’s business,’’ said Holmes, a Vietnam veteran. “The mission for the church is to take the gospel to the world and effect change, but it says nothing about nation building at the point of a sword.’’

Ed Sents, a 27-year-old farmer and father of three, also plans to support Paul on Jan. 3. “Some Christians think we need to take the fight to the Muslims before they take it here, but pre-emptive strike is not just war,’’ he said in reference to Iran’s potential of building a nuclear weapon.

Rick Grote, a new parishioner and pharmacist who serves as a county and precinct coordinator for Paul, recalled a November candidates forum at a Des Moines church during which the 2,500-person crowd of social and religious conservatives leapt to their feet and applauded wildly after Gingrich said the United States should protect Israel against Iran no matter what the rest of the world thinks.

“Evangelical Christians in Iowa are antiabortion, but they have this thing about war,’’ Grote said. “Don’t Muslim kids have a right to live? They think we have to bomb the snot out of them before they come over here and bomb the snot out of us.’’

Tracy Jan can be reached at tjan@globe.com. http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/File-Based_Image_Resource/dingbat_story_end_icon.gif

[midnight rambler]

This doesn't at all sound like something Ron Paul would ever say:


"Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks."

IMO, Dr. Paul needs to turn into the wind on this one and challenge that morally bankrupt Melonhead reprobate to a one on one debate regarding each other's track records. THAT would make Melonhead STFU.

[Cebu_4_2]

Hahaha...

Fox News Panel Blasts Newt Gingrich For Not Making It On Virginia’s Primary Ballot

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by Josh Feldman (http://www.mediaite.com/author/josh-feldman/) | 2:15 pm, December 24th, 2011
» 16 comments (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-panel-blasts-newt-gingrich-for-not-making-it-on-virginias-primary-ballot/#disqus_thread) http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Fox-300x165.jpg (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-panel-blasts-newt-gingrich-for-not-making-it-on-virginias-primary-ballot/attachment/fox-4/)Earlier today, we reported that Newt Gingrich failed to qualify (http://www.mediaite.com/online/its-mitt-romney-v-ron-paul-in-virginia-as-other-candidates-fail-to-qualify-for-primary-ballot/) for the Virginia Republican primary ballot and his name (along with those of all but two of his opponents) will not be on the ballot come next year. On Fox News earlier, two political analysts criticized the Gingrich campaign for not being organized enough, and called into question how he did not amass enough signatures in his home state.
Angela McGlowan (http://www.mediaite.com/power-grid/person/?q=Angela+McGlowan) said the failure calls into question Gingrich’s organizational skills. Bashing the process can only do so much when you’re a popular candidate with widespread support who couldn’t get 10,000 signatures in Virginia. What hurts Gingrich’s campaign the most in this process is that he was actually polling ahead of all the other candidates and in a statistical dead heat with Mitt Romney. As McGlowan put it, if Gingrich couldn’t get it together enough to abide by the rules in Virginia, he might not have the discipline necessary to be the next President of the United States.
RELATED: Newt Gingrich Appeals For Help In Iowa: ‘I Don’t Have The Resources To Compete With These Guys’ (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/newt-gingrich-appeals-for-help-in-iowa-i-dont-have-the-resources-to-compete-with-these-guys/)
Kirsten Powers (http://www.mediaite.com/power-grid/person/?q=Kirsten+Powers) tacked on another embarrassing element of this story for the Gingrich campaign: Virginia is the candidate’s home state. It’s where he has lived for a number of years. So when the primary season rolls in, he won’t have home field advantage to lean on. Powers also noted that unlike Gingrich, Michele Bachmann, Jon Huntsman, and Rick Santorum didn’t even try to get on the ballot, suggesting that they did so due to a lack of resources and a strategic focus on Iowa in the coming weeks.
Gingrich’s only recourse at this point would be to run a write-in campaign, which would definitely be a long-shot. As McGlowan pointed out, Lisa Murkowski successfully won a write-in campaign to keep her Senate seat in Alaska after losing the primary to her tea party challenger. However, Powers noted that Virginia state law actually bans all write-in campaigns (http://www.ktvb.com/news/national/136185823.html), so that particular avenue is closed off to Gingrich.
Watch the video below, courtesy of Fox News:

[Libertytree]

This doesn't at all sound like something Ron Paul would ever say:



IMO, Dr. Paul needs to turn into the wind on this one and challenge that morally bankrupt Melonhead reprobate to a one on one debate regarding each other's track records. THAT would make Melonhead STFU.

Me: "Ron should tell newt, "Sure let's talk, in one of your Douglas style debates, I'll tell my newsletter story for the 1000th time and we can talk about your actions as SOH and your little gig afterwords that made you a millionaire and..and..and etc." That little shit bag will never say another word about it."........from an earlier post. ;D

He needs to break bad on newt, dismiss him and move on to mr mitty. That kills 3 birds w/ one stone.

[midnight rambler]

Yeah, big hahaha on Melonhead. This *should* sink him, it's a huge FUBAR, and it shows he's too inept to be POTUS if he cannot even organize on his home turf AT LEAST enough to qualify for the primary. PLUS this nonsense with his campaign staff suggesting his supporters can do a 'write in' in clear defiance of state law shows his utter contempt for EVERYTHING that doesn't go his way. What a rotten POS.

[EE_]

It's been fun watching these turds fall one by one.
Ron couldn't have wished for a better election.
One more to go!

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[midnight rambler]

It's been fun watching these turds fall one by one.
Ron couldn't have wished for a better election.
One more to go!

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That's just his style - "emotion-free crisis management."

Do you know that when Seamus the dog hosed down the family car with feces Mittens casually pulled into a service station and used a hose to rinse the feces off both the car and the dog, then got back on the road (without drying the dog off). No wonder Mittens supports enhanced interrogation techniques - he's an expert in torture.

[EE_]

That's just his style - "emotion-free crisis management."

Do you know that when Seamus the dog hosed down the family car with feces Mittens casually pulled into a service station and used a hose to rinse the feces off both the car and the dog, then got back on the road (without drying the dog off). No wonder Mittens supports enhanced interrogation techniques - he's an expert in torture.

Yes I do! Funny how the Zionist bring up that news letter from how many years ago? 18?
If I were Ron, I'd say if you guys want to dig up old shit that I didn't even write..I'll play! Let's take a look at Mitt's judgement from 20 some years ago, when he took a 12 hour freeway drive with his dog strapped to the roof of his car.