Coffee up your ass will not help your cancer........

[Ponce]

Tuesday, December 27, 2011

Stupidest government enterprise: $406k on coffee enemas.

Russia Today

Published: 28 December, 2011, 01:02

Joe Raedle / Getty Images / AFP


Want to know where your tax dollars are going? Washington has a rapid response for that one on the ready: stick it up your ass.

No, really.

A recent report carried out by the Chicago Tribune reveals that the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine — a branch of the federally-funded National Institutes of Health — has spent around $1.4 billion since it began 12 years ago on finding out, among other things, that coffee enemas aimed up the butt and into the intestines will, believe it or not, not aid in pancreatic cancer treatment. That messy test, reports the Tribune, was made possible thanks to a $406,000 grant.

What other scientific breakthroughs were made possible by your involuntary donations to Uncle Sam? Over half-a-million dollars helped scientists determine that AIDS could not be cured with prayer, and it took $374-grad to come to the conclusion that, contrary to popular belief, sniffing lemon juice will not help heal external wounds.

Dr. Wallace Sampson of Stanford University tells the Tribune that real medical wizzes “don't take public money and invest it in projects that are just made up out of people's imaginations." The government, on the other hand, likes to act on instinct. Such was the case with a study that spent $1.25 million to conclude that, “Hey, people with cancer feel better after being massaged.”

Also keen on massages: people without cancer.

While most of these makeshift science experiments are done without merit, the writer reveals that two-out-of-five American adults say that they’ve used alternative treatments during the last year. The Tribune doesn’t tackle how many people tried the coffee enema — before or after the results of the study — but with the alternative therapy industry raking in around $34 billion annually, the NIH seems to think that their little-known branch of barbaric home remedies is worth American tax dollars, even if it comes to the tune of $1.4 billion.

Think your money could have been better well spent? Take it up with the lawmakers that allow such funding. As RT reported earlier this year, your pennies on the dollar could have ended up elsewhere. After all, $900,000 in government funding recently went to the NIH to determine, among other things, the correlation between penis size and sexual health among gay men.

Infastructure, shminfastructure. These are real investments, America!

http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2011/12/stupidest-government-enterprise-406k-on.html

[sunnyandseventy]

I think coffee enemas is part of the detox process during Gerson Therapy for cancer.

[Serpo]

I think coffee enemas is part of the detox process during Gerson Therapy for cancer.

That is right and the purpose for the coffee enema is to draw toxins out of your liver..............

[Old Herb Lady]

What a load of BS. Anytime the gov't funds a study ALWAYS expect the results to be what they intended them to be. A BIG LIE.

Coffee enemas are very therapeutic & encourage healing & detoxification.

The gov't needs one big fat enema on their pitiful arse.

[ximmy]

1967
http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1967&d=1325038158

[BrewTech]

Hmmm... maybe this weekend won't be as boring as I thought!

[solid]

Hmmm... maybe this weekend won't be as boring as I thought!

I wonder if a coffee enema date would impress a gal. Chicks always dig dudes that are interesting, spontaneous, and exciting. It's not hot coffee is it?

[Cebu_4_2]

I wonder if a coffee enema date would impress a gal. Chicks always dig dudes that are interesting, spontaneous, and exciting. It's not hot coffee is it?

Don't forget the classical music.

[ximmy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh4IKcslPEY

[BrewTech]

I wonder if a coffee enema date would impress a gal. Chicks always dig dudes that are interesting, spontaneous, and exciting. It's not hot coffee is it?

You know the cute barista that works at the Starbucks near you? Try her first.

;)

[joboo]

Does anyone know offhand what the mechanics are behind coffee detoxing your liver?

Has anyone done blood sample testing to prove it?

[Uncle Salty]

Basically nothing helps with certain types of Pancreatic cancer.

Coffee enemas are but one tool in the natural arsenal for curing some types of cancer.

[Old Herb Lady]

Basically nothing helps with certain types of Pancreatic cancer.

Coffee enemas are but one tool in the natural arsenal for curing some types of cancer.

That's not true. Just because doctors haven't helped it doesn't mean that it hasn't been healed.

Enemas (herbal enemas, coffee enemas etc. ) are necessary in natural healing because most diseases
are caused by a toxic unhealthy lower bowel.
Once the bowel is clean then healing can begin, but not until then.
Heal the bowel = heal the immune system = rest of the body can get healthy.

[Mouse]

I am on the highway to heaven
On the highway to heaven

With Michael Landon and that old beardy guy.

Don't it worked out too well, but they may have done it wrong.

[vacuum]

Pancreatic cancer is a tough one. Not surprised this wasn't very effective. It doesn't mean enemas aren't effective against other types of cancer though.

[solid]

That's not true. Just because doctors haven't helped it doesn't mean that it hasn't been healed.

Enemas (herbal enemas, coffee enemas etc. ) are necessary in natural healing because most diseases
are caused by a toxic unhealthy lower bowel.
Once the bowel is clean then healing can begin, but not until then.
Heal the bowel = heal the immune system = rest of the body can get healthy.

What about just drinking coffee though? I drink a lot of coffee (work related). I could probably drink more if convinced it was healthy.

I think enemas is just a buzzword, it's healthy, healing, good for the body/soul, yada yada...but how many folks actually take the plunge and get a coffee enema? I bet less than 0% of normal health-minded folks. By that account, how accurate could these facts actually be?

[Santa]

I'd much rather go on a coffee enema date than a chemo date. Chemo's a bitch.

[mick silver]

That's not true. Just because doctors haven't helped it doesn't mean that it hasn't been healed.

Enemas (herbal enemas, coffee enemas etc. ) are necessary in natural healing because most diseases
are caused by a toxic unhealthy lower bowel.
Once the bowel is clean then healing can begin, but not until then.
Heal the bowel = heal the immune system = rest of the body can get healthy.
do you know of any good books on this thanks mick

[Old Herb Lady]

do you know of any good books on this thanks mick

http://www.christopherpublications.com/Colon_Health.html

http://www.amazon.com/There-Are-Incurable-Diseases-Detoxification/dp/0967156734

http://books.google.com/books?id=UJwemluDzGsC&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=death+begins+in+the+colon+bernard+jensen&source=bl&ots=QoR2gOxg0N&sig=Wl3eFQKSz50UpfSRDqG9nfXFXWk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=8lL7To2AOeK90QGk8cW8Ag&ved=0CFgQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q&f=false

Death begins in the colon ( a little audio):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-P0u23TE7c

[Old Herb Lady]

What about just drinking coffee though? I drink a lot of coffee (work related). I could probably drink more if convinced it was healthy.

I think enemas is just a buzzword, it's healthy, healing, good for the body/soul, yada yada...but how many folks actually take the plunge and get a coffee enema? I bet less than 0% of normal health-minded folks. By that account, how accurate could these facts actually be?

Most health minded folks have only scratched the surface on natural healing & haven't even gotten their feet wet yet actually.
Coffee is good only when it's used for medicinal purposes or occasional drinking & not constant , chronic drinking of it.
(Too bad I'm addicted to it toooo ! Yikes ! I do take breaks from it, tho)

[Uncle Salty]

That's not true. Just because doctors haven't helped it doesn't mean that it hasn't been healed.

Enemas (herbal enemas, coffee enemas etc. ) are necessary in natural healing because most diseases
are caused by a toxic unhealthy lower bowel.
Once the bowel is clean then healing can begin, but not until then.
Heal the bowel = heal the immune system = rest of the body can get healthy.

I understand that. But with some cancers, by the time they are discovered, natural methods just can't get the job done. Chemo and radiation don't work either.

And I say this as an owner of an herb company. I have seen too many people turn to natural remedies after they have exhausted all the traditional Western medicine therapies or have their cancers discovered at such a late stage that nothing works.

There is always hope. Any one individual can buck the odds and get lucky, but for some, when cancer is discovered, it is game over.

[Old Herb Lady]

I understand that. But with some cancers, by the time they are discovered, natural methods just can't get the job done. Chemo and radiation don't work either.

And I say this as an owner of an herb company. I have seen too many people turn to natural remedies after they have exhausted all the traditional Western medicine therapies or have their cancers discovered at such a late stage that nothing works.

There is always hope. Any one individual can buck the odds and get lucky, but for some, when cancer is discovered, it is game over.

Agreeeed ! Yes, once discovered & going to the doctors will kill you faster than the actual course of the cancer killing you.
Also tumors are not the cancer. They are symptoms of the cancer. Modern Medicine WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THIS. NEVER.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

If enemas are not your thing, another way to clean the lower bowels is called the "Salt Water Flush"

You essentially drink salt water that is of such a salinity (can't be too much or too little) and at that specific gravity, your body cannot absorb it. I forget the ratio, you'd have to look it up, but it's something like a cup of salt per quart of water. You warm the water and drink it, and it's true that your body cannot absorb it. Within an hour it comes out your back end. A few of these will clean out your whole digestive tract.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

I just came across this on another forum and thought, how perfect for the discussion we are having here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vhHe55s9rg&feature=player_embedded#!

[learn2swim]

I'm starting a 30 day juice fast tomorrow, and I'll probably get one of these during the 3rd week.

[solid]

You know, sometimes I wonder if all this health stuff is just a bunch of BS.

It's the guy who does coffee enema's...he's the guy that ends up dying of cancer. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Ever notice how the hypochondriac guy is the guy who's always sick, yet the guy who drinks 6 beers and smokes a pack of cigs a day lives just fine.

Nobody worried about this shit 50 years ago. It's all the same programming, plant a 'seed' in your mind about a fear "health", and you can control people's actions that way.

If you adopt a philosophy of live day by day, "seize the day", as people have for thousands of years and been just fine, none of this matters anymore.

Bottom line, mention to a guy 100 years ago, tell him he needed a coffee enema. You'd get your ass kicked.

[ximmy]

first coffee enemas... then brown showers

[solid]

first coffee enemas... then brown showers

Bad ximmy. :(

I had to look up the definition of a brown shower. This is not safe for work.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=brown%20shower&defid=482958

[Old Herb Lady]

You know, sometimes I wonder if all this health stuff is just a bunch of BS.

It's the guy who does coffee enema's...he's the guy that ends up dying of cancer. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Ever notice how the hypochondriac guy is the guy who's always sick, yet the guy who drinks 6 beers and smokes a pack of cigs a day lives just fine.

Nobody worried about this shit 50 years ago. It's all the same programming, plant a 'seed' in your mind about a fear "health", and you can control people's actions that way.

If you adopt a philosophy of live day by day, "seize the day", as people have for thousands of years and been just fine, none of this matters anymore.

Bottom line, mention to a guy 100 years ago, tell him he needed a coffee enema. You'd get your ass kicked.


Fifty years ago or a hundred years ago it was common & no one would kick u in da arse. Times have changed.
The OP says an enema is a "barbaric natural remedy" or something like that.
It's not barbaric. Modern medicine is barbaric.
Enemas don't cure, they're a part of a healing protocol. A part.
A couple of enemas aren't going to do anything done ALONE.

Also, the person who can smoke, drink all day every day, do drugs & eat garbage has a strong body constitution.
Not everyone has this. WE CAN ONLY LIVE THE HARD WAY (the above^ AS TO WHAT OUR BODY CONSTITUTION ALLOWS.)
I have a weaker body constitution so I have to be a litttle more careful,
but I have family members that could drink a keg everyday & schmoke like a diesel, eat kielbassi, hotdogs, chips, junk processed foods
AND NEVER GET SICK.

Our each individual body constitution has to be taken into account as to how much hard living we can do.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Very nice, learn2swim. Which protocol are you fasting on? Master cleanse, or traditional vegetable juice style?

I'm very interested in fasting, although it has been over 2 years since my last fast. I've done several 14 day fasts, and a 20 day. At this point I am confident I could handle 30.

Do you drink herbal tea while fasting? I usually do. Lots of water soluble vitamins. Usually peppermint or anise to help out my digestive tract.

Very interested, please share more!

[Old Herb Lady]

I'm starting a 30 day juice fast tomorrow, and I'll probably get one of these during the 3rd week.


Have you ever had one before ? Please let us know how your fast goes and anything else you're willing to share on your journey about your 30 day juice fast.

[Serpo]

There is no respite or escape anywhere on earth from the toxins that stifle our planet and overwhelm our bodies. Even our best efforts to eliminate or restrict exposure are often not adequate to the task, and as our toxic load increases so does our chance of developing chronic illness and disease.

As explored in the first three parts of this series there are several methods for releasing the stockpile of chemicals and other toxins from the body in order to maintain or regain health. An alkaline diet devoid of processed foods isn't always enough, and sometimes extreme measures are necessary to provide the level of cleansing required to keep up with the toxic onslaught.

The little understood and much disparaged coffee enema is one such method of purification that cleanses the liver – the body's largest filter – and provides a multitude of health benefits to the ailing body. Acceptance of the coffee enema's value may result from an understanding of its history and therapeutic benefits.

Historical Use of Enemas

The use of therapeutic coffee enemas began during WWI; however, water enemas have been used for detoxification throughout the ages. In fact, the Vatican holds a third-century Aramaic manuscript in which enema directions are graphically transcribed. In the book The Gerson Therapy by Charlotte Gerson, daughter of famed cancer specialist Max Gerson M.D., and Morton Walker, D.P.M., these ancient instructions for detoxification are recorded:

I tell you truly, the angel of water shall cast out of your body all uncleanness which defiled it without and within. And all unclean and evil-smelling things shall flow out of you... I tell you truly, holy is the angel of water who cleanses all that is unclean and makes all evil-smelling things of a sweet odor...

Think not that it is sufficient that the angel of water embrace you outwards only. I tell you truly, the uncleanness within is greater by much than the uncleanness without. And he who cleanses himself without, but within remains unclean, is like to tombs that outwards are painted fair, but are within full of all manner of horrible uncleanness and abominations...

Seek, therefore, a large trailing gourd, having a stalk the length of a man; take out its inwards and fill it with water from the river which the sun has warmed. Hang it upon the branch of a tree, and kneel upon the ground before the angel of water, and suffer the end of the stalk of the trailing gourd to enter your hinder parts, that the water may flow through all your bowels. Afterwards rest kneeling on the ground...and pray to the angel of water that he will free your body from every uncleanness and disease. Then let the water run out from your body, that it may carry away from within it all the unclean and evil-smelling things... And you shall see with your eyes and smell with your nose all the abominations and uncleanness which defiled the temple of your body... tormenting you with all manner of pains. I tell you truly, baptism with water frees you from all of these. Renew your baptizing with water on every day of your fast, till the day when you see that the water which flows out of you is as pure as the river's foam... (1)

Coffee Enemas for Detoxification

The time-tested water enema evolved during WWI when German medic supplies – including morphine – were in short supply and nurses were desperate to find ways of alleviating the post-surgery pain of severely wounded soldiers. Water enemas were routinely used, but anxious to find a more potent pain reliever, one resourceful nurse intuitively used leftover brewed coffee and found it to be highly effective.

Reports of the coffee's analgesic benefits prompted two German researchers to study the properties in coffee that produced these effects. In the 1920s, after experimenting with rats, they published their findings that the caffeinated enemas stimulated the opening of bile ducts (Bile is formed by the liver, stored in the gallbladder, and secreted into the intestines - via bile ducts - carrying waste for transit from the body).

Dr. Max Gerson became familiar with the research and eventually adapted the use of coffee enemas into his detoxification therapy. Gerson observed that cancer patients didn't die of the disease process itself, but rather because of the liver's inability to detoxify and process the barrage of dissolving tumor masses and other metabolic toxins released in abundance as a result of his nutritional therapy. The addition of coffee enemas into the protocol resolved this dilemma.

His patients learned to self-administer the enemas up to four times daily to facilitate the continuous release of toxins from the body. The high success rate of the Gerson Therapy with terminal cancer and other serious illnesses is a testament to his nutritional protocol and the coffee enema's detoxifying and restorative benefits for the liver.

In addition to its uses for pain relief, treatment and detoxification, the coffee enema is also a highly effective method of disease prevention and health maintenance.

Detoxification Mechanism of the Coffee Enema

The Gerson Therapy explains that caffeine and palmitates (chemicals in coffee) work synergistically to stimulate and cleanse the liver and blood. Without entering the digestive tract the caffeine is absorbed through the bowel wall, via blood vessels, and makes its way directly to the liver.

The caffeine exposure causes the liver's portal veins and the bile ducts to expand which increases the release of diluted toxic bile. The enema fluid triggers peristalsis (intestinal muscle contractions) and the efficient removal of wastes from the body.

Palmitates in the coffee stimulate and increase the production of a liver enzyme called glutathione-S-transferase (GST), which removes free radicals and cancer cells from the bloodstream and facilitates detoxification of the liver. As a result of the enema the liver becomes less congested with debris, which makes room for the filtering process of yet more bodily toxins.

Ideally, the coffee enema should be retained for twelve to fifteen minutes during which time the body's blood supply circulates and passes through the liver approximately five times (Every three minutes). Since the blood serum is detoxified as it flows through the caffeinated liver, the enema is essentially a form of blood dialysis (filtering) across the colon wall. Drinking coffee has no such therapeutic benefits and is in fact counter-productive.

Enema Procedure

As described in The Gerson Therapy, the enema coffee is made by adding three tablespoons of drip-grind (organic) coffee to one quart of boiling distilled water. After boiling uncovered for three minutes, the mixture is covered and simmered for fifteen more minutes. Hot water is added to replace what was lost through boiling. The quart solution is then strained and allowed to cool to body temperature.

The individual should have a comfortable place to lie down for the administering of the enema. It's best to lie on the right side with legs pulled up towards the chest.

Caffeine-sensitive individuals can easily use the enema without ill effects provided the enema bag or bucket is not placed more than eighteen inches above the end of the insertion tube, to prevent systemic absorption of the caffeine.

If retaining the enema for twelve to fifteen minutes is too difficult, then a series of two or three enemas of shorter duration may be tried. Over time, it becomes easier to retain the enema for the full fifteen minute interval. Holding for more than fifteen minutes is not recommended since the caffeine may be absorbed systemically.

Enema Tips

At least one therapeutic organic coffee blend has been developed for the sole purpose of enemas and may be found at (http://www.sawilsons.com/) .

For a milder effect, or if one has a sensitive colon due to chronic illness, herbal teas such as chamomile or Essiac may be used instead of, or in conjunction with the coffee enema. Prepare a quart of the desired tea following package instructions and proceed as with a coffee enema.

Alternatively, an enema of one-half quart tea may precede a coffee enema of the same quantity. Individuals who are unsure if the coffee or tea enema is an appropriate detoxification method for their condition should consult with a health care practitioner.

For nearly nine decades the coffee enema has proven itself to be effective at cleansing and restoring the liver, reducing and eliminating cancerous debris, and relieving severe pain from countless origins. It is yet another tool in the detoxification arsenal that should not be dismissed by anyone determined to prevent disease, reclaim their health or otherwise impede the ill effects of living in a toxic world.


Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/022905.html#ixzz1hsSq5VMA


also

http://www.gersonhawaii.us/gersonarticle5.html


http://howtocoffeeenema.info/about-gerson-therapy

[chad]

50 years ago everyone died when they were 60 or 65, maybe 70. now everyone lives until their 80s or 90s. yet, i need to shove coffee up my ass to "be healthy." and if i call bullshit on shoving coffee up my ass, it's because "i won't accept the truth about natural healing." yet, there's zero studies about the benefits of shoving coffee up may ass. but that's because people who do studies about such things "won't accept the facts about natural healing." i'll still live in to my 80s or 90s instead of my 60s, though. probably just luck.

[Old Herb Lady]

Why Do People Live Longer Now

Modern medicine is proud to state that people are living longer now than ever before. But in no way does this mean that people are healthier.
Often older people are living in hospitals and nursing homes that use all kinds of equipment to keeping the people staying there alive.

One of the main things that has increased the average life-span is that more children are living through child birth, which is one of the great advancement and benefits of modern medicine. Now most babies are born in a hospital where there is emergency equipment and qualified doctors and nurses to deal with anything that might go wrong.

Also one of the main things that has stopped the epidemics that happened in the past is the addition of the flush toilet and advanced sewerage systems so waste and garbage is not all over the street but it is disposed of underground in secured pipes. In the past epidemic diseases were often spread by open sewages in the large cities.

Major diseases like cholera and typhoid fever are practically unknown in America and Europe because the main way these disease spreads is by insanitary conditions, which flush toilets and disinfected tap water help to eliminate.

In truth people may be living more years than ever before but people are often living an unhealthy life. People often look feeble and really unhealthy in their fifties, sixties and seventies. Often you can see people who are living a healthy natural life look really well in their sixties and seventies doing everything easily by their own power.

[ximmy]

http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/rmc/lowres/rmcn275l.jpg

[chad]

i guess it would better if people died when they were 65 rather than living to 80 and being "unhealthy" and "looking feeble." how does whoever wrote this know people aren't living healthier? do they have a time machine by which to go back to 1872 and conduct studies? how do they know old people then weren't "unhealthy" and "looking feeble" as well? because they looked at some black and white photos?

part of the problem i have with all of the "shove coffee up your ass" nonsense is that if you don't believe it or want proof of it working, you're an unbeliever heathen. it's like an alcoholic who quit drinking, and now if anybody has 2 or 3 beers on a sunday afternoon they're going to get liver cancer, beat their wife, etc. there's no proof of that of course, but since they believe it, EVERYBODY should, or they are stupid.

i'd just like some facts that it actually works, not some guy going "there's proof that a chemical in coffee helps detox the liver, so everyone should shove it up their ass and that would work even better."

and what really annoys me is that if i ask for any trials, studies, etc. for proof I AM STUPID AND DO NOT UNDERSTAND NATURAL HEALING.

i get the caps screaming at me on almost any forum in which i ask these simple issues. i don't doubt it, i'd just like some proof other than "i quit drinking, and now should everybody else."

[solid]

Chad, I agree 100%. Home run post! I really couldn't agree more, you articulated this perfectly. Cheers!

[Old Herb Lady]

I am so sad that you guys are upset. I am so sorry that I do not have the proper studies to show you results of.
If you don't like the idea of it, you would never have to even have a second thought about it.

The only proof I have that they help are the decades upon decades that natural healers have been doing them .
I posted 3 books from the top natural healers that the world has ever seen. They all 3 did enemas in their clinics.
The proof that a natural healing protocol (including enemas) saved thousands & thousands of lives is in their books and
the government shut down & arrested & imprisoned every one of them over & over again.

People do mouth rinses, gargles, ear washes, eye washes, douches, nasal cleanses all the time.
All orifices of the body need cleansed when they're sick to promote healing, that's all.

You don't have to do anything, it's just what you want to do.
You do not have to do any natural remedy that you don't feel comfortable with.

The gov't study in the OP is not complete. There's more to getting well than just one modality when your sick !
If I get cancer, well, yes, I will be going through a few enemas, if you wouldn't want to then don't .

Just take a deep breath now please .

[ximmy]

Aliens do it...
http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1970&d=1325124502

1970

[Serpo]

Biological Basis for Coffee Enemas
a lecture by Gar Hildenbrand,
Excerpted from "How the Gerson Therapy Heals," 1990.

The coffee enema is capable of removing circulating toxins and partial metabolites for one specific reason, and that is that the coffee enema not only dilates bile ducts - which Gerson knew - we now know, from the work of Wattenberg, Sparnins, and Lam at the University of Minnesota, Department of Pathology, Minneapolis, that coffee stimulates an enzyme system in the liver, glutathione-S-transferase, that is capable of removing a vast variety of electrophiles from the bloodstream. Electrophiles are referred to in popular literature as free radicals.

Electrophiles are atomic particles with one or more electrons in unpaired spins. They have an affinity for electrons and they want to get involved where they should not get involved. They are charged particles, and they will damage membranes of cells and they will inflict disturbances in cellular metabolism.

Under the influence of a coffee enema the glutathione-S-transferase enzyme system - part of the ligandine enzyme system that accounts for about 3% of all enzymes in the liver, responsible for removing electrophiles from the blood stream - will be increased in activity from 600%-700% above normal. No materials other than coffee are known to stimulate it as much. That's why people are known to get a buzz off of a cup of coffee in the morning, and why some people are too grouchy to do anything but read the newspaper until they've had their coffee, and why coffee is so effective in clearing heads.

The coffee enema stimulates the glutathione-S-transferase system by 700%. During the time that the coffee enema is being held in the gut, all the blood in the body passes through the liver at least five times. Every three minutes, all the blood in your body passes through your liver. In addition to stimulating the enzyme system, the theobromine, theophylline, and the caffeine in coffee all have physiological effects. Among these are the dilation of blood vessels and bile ducts, the relaxation of smooth muscles, and the increase of bile flow. The palmitates, compounds in the coffee that actually stimulate glutathione-S-transferase, also cause increased bile flow.

http://www.gersonhawaii.us/my24.jpg In addition to that, the quart of water in your gut stimluates what is called the visceral nervous system. The viscera are the guts. The visceral nervous system is the nervous system that orchestrates what is called peristalsis, the weak force that moves materials through the intestines. The visceral nervous system is stimulated by a quart of water in the gut. Additionally, at least part of that quart of water passes through the wall of the gut and dilutes the hemorrhoidal and then the portal blood which goes into the liver, socks the liver, actually dilutes the bile and causes more readily increased bile flow. Also, the net effect of the coffee enema is to cause a flushing of toxic bile, or bile that has been loaded with toxins by the glutathione-S-transferase system, out of the intestines.

Glutathione-S-transferase shuttles; it's an enzyme catalyst. It's out there catching free radicals, like an outfielder on a baseball team, and throwing them to the glutathione molecule of the bile. The glutathione molecule has a branch called the sulfhydryl part that absorbs many electrophiles. It makes them inert in the same way that a clay slough can make atomic waste inert because it has great adsorptive capabilities. What then happens is that these things become bile solutes. The bile solutets in the bile are flushed out of the gallbladder and the liver, and into the duodenum, and peristalsis carries them through the small intestine, through the colon and out the rectum. That is effective dialysis. The coffee enema is the only pharmaceutically effective choleretic in the medical literature that is repeatable many times daily; choleretic, like diuretic. Diuretics cause urination. Choloretics cause bile flow.

The coffee enema is safe and effective when used as a part of this program as our physicians direct. Dr. Peter Lechner at the Landeskrankenhaus of Graz, Austria, has been working for six years now, studying a very modified Gerson Therapy. He has been using the coffee enemas as part of the post-surgical programs of the second surgery department of Landeskrankenhaus. He did some rat experiments in which palmitates were extracted from coffee, the cafestol palmitates, and in which they were seen to increase bile flow in the rats. Lechner became convinced, and wrote in a journal called Aktuelle Ernåhrungsmedizin (Contemporary Nutritional Medicine), 2 Band 15, April 1990, that these palmitic acid salts could be very powerful liver protective drugs if they would be developed by a pharmaceutical corporation.

Until that time, as he said, "We have to continue to administer them in the awkward form of enemas... because patients cannot be expected to consume the therapeutically necessary daily amount of at least one liter of coffee by drinking it, without risking side effects in the upper alimentary tract." Nothing else works.

In the Second Surgery Department of the Landeskrankenhaus in Graz, Lechner has a bunch of very normal colleagues who are, none of them enthusiastic about alternative therapies. But neither are they willing to argue with scientific fact. This is a six-year-long program. Its findings have been published twice.

So now you have coffee enemas cleansing the blood. What is the coffee enema removing? Ammonia-like products, toxic-bound nitrogen, protein derivatives that are often times charged particles, polyamines, amino acid clumps and complexes.

When I first talked to Regelson, in 1981, he asked me if the coffee enemas had been studied in the filed of Ammoniapathophysiology. I said I didn't know what he was talking about. He said, "The name Visik, the father of Ammoniapathophysiology. You probably haven't been taught about it because it is veterinary medicine." I said, "Oh, enlighten me please." He said that it was very simple.

Visik proposed and proved that if you antibios feedlot animals, you'll cut down on the amount of urea-splitting bacteria in their guts, lower their tissue and serum ammonia levels, and they will gain more carcass weight. You can get bigger, stronger, more muscle-loaded feedlot animals for more beef if you give them antibiotics. That is why we give antibiotics to beef.

We could give coffee enemas to animals and have the same effects. That's why Regelson wanted to know if we had studied this in the field of Ammoniapathhophysiology; that's where the coffee enemas belong. We are actually altering the level of tissue ammonias; and if it can help cattle to gain carcass weight in a feedlot, eating those ridiculous high-grain diets that cause the bacterial problems in the first place. Cattle are not designed to eat a lot of grain - if that can happen, certainly, coffee enemas, having similar effect in people who are not being subjected to high-grain diets, can improve tissue resistance. And they do.

When you improve the sodium ring around tumors and diseased tissue, the first thing that happens is that tissue gets better drainage and better circulation. And the cells begin to function normally. And when cells begin to function normally, they do what's normal for cells, they behave like themselves. And that means our tissues are now themselves again. They bring, with normal function, requisite behavior for health, which is resistance to disease, and immunity against extant disease. That's were tissue immunity comes from, and that's where tumor immunities come from: the health of normal tissue.

http://www.gersonhawaii.us/gersonarticle5.html

[learn2swim]

I did the master cleanse about 3 years ago for 18 days with good success, but I think the juice fast is much healthier for obvious reasons. I'll fast with a mix of kale, celery, carrots, ginger root, garlic, spinach, lemon, cucumber, and apples. About 64 oz a day, and a lot of water and vit D-3. I got a vita mix blender, and I'll strain it through a paint strainer bag. If you have Netflix or you might find it on a torrent file, a film called Fat, Sick, and Nearly dieing.
http://www.fatsickandnearlydead.com/
http://jointhereboot.com/

[learn2swim]

Have you ever had one before ? Please let us know how your fast goes and anything else you're willing to share on your journey about your 30 day juice fast.
No problem, sounds like a good idea.

[Old Herb Lady]

I did the master cleanse about 3 years ago for 18 days with good success, but I think the juice fast is much healthier for obvious reasons. I'll fast with a mix of kale, celery, carrots, ginger root, garlic, spinach, lemon, cucumber, and apples. About 64 oz a day, and a lot of water and vit D-3. I got a vita mix blender, and I'll strain it through a paint strainer bag. If you have Netflix or you might find it on a torrent file, a film called Fat, Sick, and Nearly dieing.
http://www.fatsickandnearlydead.com/
http://jointhereboot.com/

Thanks learn2swim ! Actually I did see it already and am very familiar with the reboot. I am very excited for you ! Sounds delicious !

[learn2swim]

Thanks learn2swim ! Actually I did see it already and am very familiar with the reboot. I am very excited for you ! Sounds delicious !
Yeah, I'm hoping I can make it delicious. I shooting for 80% green veggie 20% fruit.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

This is a man who knows what he is doing. Look forward to chatting with you about your progress, and you have given me reason to think it is time for me to fast again soon.

[learn2swim]

I decided to start on the 2nd, next Monday. I was just talked into attending a New Years party. I'll start a thread in the in the health and fitness section next week.

[letter_factory]

50 years ago everyone died when they were 60 or 65, maybe 70. now everyone lives until their 80s or 90s. yet, i need to shove coffee up my ass to "be healthy." and if i call bullshit on shoving coffee up my ass, it's because "i won't accept the truth about natural healing." yet, there's zero studies about the benefits of shoving coffee up may ass. but that's because people who do studies about such things "won't accept the facts about natural healing." i'll still live in to my 80s or 90s instead of my 60s, though. probably just luck.





You sound really young and naive.

[chad]

You sound really young and naive.

and yet nothing i said can be proven incorrect.

[letter_factory]

and yet nothing i said can be proven incorrect.


lol, sure.

[chad]

okay, show me the coffee enema clinical trials and make me look foolish. and i'll need some real science here, not something copied and pasted off a natural healing website.

[Old Herb Lady]

Try reading a book from Dr. Max Gerson called "A Cancer Therapy...the result of 50 cases."

Isn't a doctor who performed the enemas on people good enough to be "clinical trials" ?

"Science & clinical trials" are fixed, the real truth is in the real results with real people helping real people get really well.

Seventy years worth of work doesn't mean anything ??

PDF:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:fbIPUuRko-8J:www.whale.to/cancer/ferrellgerson.pdf+a+cancer+therapy+results+of+50+c ases+pdf&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjrBIijHWjnP4fDcv04V46VmJ8syXSYhVhdRj-NFzT7DAiMq8lWG3Ur6QoRbyvW76gKpkL7e7P4jJl0QZ1vhqckt ouHq9gMzFif9lCIEJQo3WgMvFfRHp9y1hQeWz6gPKnL_ZfP&sig=AHIEtbSvS-ivm5EdWWPB5sfKD4h3HJARbw


Edit: if "clinical trials" and "science" proved that they helped (by the government's standards) then enemas would be outlawed
and the person doing them would be thrown in jail, fined, and have any licensures they hold removed.

[learn2swim]

Clinical trials cost a lot of money, and funds these trials? If anybody is interested in the clinical trials game, look no further then what's happened to Dr. Burzynski.


"BURZYNSKI: THE MOVIE - CANCER IS SERIOUS BUSINESS" is the story of a medical doctor and Ph.D biochemist named Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski who won the largest, and possibly the most convoluted and intriguing legal battle against the Food & Drug Administration in American history. His victorious battles with the United States government were centered around Dr. Burzynski's belief in and commitment to his gene-targeted cancer medicines he discovered in the 1970's called Antineoplastons, which have currently completed Phase II FDA-supervised clinical trials in 2009 and could begin the final phase of testing in 2011—barring the ability to raise the required $150 million to fund them.

When Antineoplastons are approved, it will mark the first time in history a single scientist, not a pharmaceutical company, will hold the exclusive patent and distribution rights on a paradigm-shifting medical breakthrough. Antineoplastons are responsible for curing some of the most incurable forms of terminal cancer. Various cancer survivors are presented in the film who chose his treatment instead of surgery, chemotherapy or radiation - with full disclosure of medical records to support their diagnosis and recovery - as well as FDA-supervised clinical trial data comparing Antineoplastons to other available treatments.

One form of cancer - diffuse, intrinsic, childhood brainstem glioma has never before been cured in any experimental clinical trial in the history of medicine. Antineoplastons hold the first cures in history - dozens of them. This documentary takes the audience through the treacherous, yet victorious, 14-year journey both Dr. Burzynski and his patients have had to endure in order to obtain FDA-approved clinical trials of Antineoplastons.

Dr. Burzynski resides and practices medicine in Houston, Texas. He was able to initially produce and administer his discovery without FDA-approval from 1977-1995 because the state of Texas at this time did not require that Texas physicians be required to adhere to Federal law in this situation. This law has since been changed. As with anything that changes current-day paradigms, Burzynski's ability to successfully treat incurable cancer with such consistency has baffled the industry. However this fact has prompted numerous investigations by the Texas Medical Board, who relentlessly took Dr. Burzynski as high as the state supreme court in their failed attempt to halt his practices.

Likewise, the Food and Drug Administration engaged in four Federal Grand Juries spanning over a decade attempting to indict Dr. Burzynski, all of which ended in no finding of fault on his behalf. Finally, Dr. Burzynski was indicted in their 5th Grand Jury in 1995, resulting in two federal trials and two sets of jurors finding him not guilty of any wrongdoing. If convicted, Dr. Burzynski would have faced a maximum of 290 years in a federal prison and $18.5 million in fines. However what's revealed in this documentary, a few years after Dr. Burzynski won his freedom, helps to paint a more coherent picture regarding the true motivation of the United States government's relentless persecution of Stanislaw Burzynski, M.D., Ph.D. (105 minutes, 2010)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lXgnb6tdBY

[chad]

from page one of the coffee enema book:

caution: consult with your physician, and do not, without his guidance, attempt self-help therapy.

would this be the same doctor who helps fake clinical trials & science? i can't keep up, obviously.

you guys win. go with the coffee.

[dys]

okay, show me the coffee enema clinical trials and make me look foolish. and i'll need some real science here, not something copied and pasted off a natural healing website.

I don't know anything about coffee enemas, but I will say this: your logic is flawed. Requiring clinical trials as proof is the classic 'fallacy of authority'. The truth value of information is not dependent on authority. It is not who gives the information that makes the information true or not, it is whether the information is true or not.

I would guess that it does work, based on the information suppression that is usually associated with natural healing.

dys

[Old Herb Lady]

Every single natural healing book on the face of the earth has a disclaimer in it.
And so that makes the therapy invalid ?

Your attitude has disappointed me terribly.

I have no need to convince you, Chad, nor anyone else.
I humbly gave some facts on here to educate people.

I can't make you comprehend them. I don't expect you nor anyone else to, either.

If information resonates to you, it is good to accept it, if not & you need more facts to back it up
and get the "clinical" trial evidence from doctors who have worked with people and
still do not believe it, I don't see why you would get so hostile about something that you don't care about or have any interest in learning.

If you don't believe it, then just move on.

I have posted many truths on here on MANY different threads and it's always the same old, same old.
It's ok to disagree, but you're insinuating that I'm an idiot .

No you win. I'm tired of putting information out there, on here, that is known fact and
get the information disrespected.

Guess I should just type in some bewlll sheyit about something that I'm uneducated in to post
just so that talking about the bowel won't offend anyone.

Have a nice day :(

[chad]

I don't know anything about coffee enemas, but I will say this: your logic is flawed. Requiring clinical trials as proof is the classic 'fallacy of authority'. The truth value of information is not dependent on authority. It is not who gives the information that makes the information true or not, it is whether the information is true or not.

I would guess that it does work, based on the information suppression that is usually associated with natural healing.

dys

i totally get what you're saying, and i don't doubt that it might really work. i'm simply saying that if it's really true you would think that there would be at least one study (maybe even suppressed) that backs it up, not just anecdotal doctor stories who "cured" 50 people with it or whatever. you would think one scientist or big pharma company would have some study involving thousands of people locked away somewhere backing up the claim. as i have not seen any proof of this, i have to go with "it might work, but there's no scientific proof that it does." that's my only angle. i read through that book the ohl posted, and there's about 200 things it looks like he had the patients do, so i don't understand how he knows the coffee enema is the thing that helped.

[dys]

Every single natural healing book on the face of the earth has a disclaimer in it.
And so that makes the therapy invalid ?

Your attitude has disappointed me terribly.

I have no need to convince you, Chad, nor anyone else.
I humbly gave some facts on here to educate people.

I can't make you comprehend them. I don't expect you nor anyone else to, either.

If information resonates to you, it is good to accept it, if not & you need more facts to back it up
and get the "clinical" trial evidence from doctors who have worked with people and
still do not believe it, I don't see why you would get so hostile about something that you don't care about or have any interest in learning.

If you don't believe it, then just move on.

I have posted many truths on here on MANY different threads and it's always the same old, same old.
It's ok to disagree, but you're insinuating that I'm an idiot .

No you win. I'm tired of putting information out there, on here, that is known fact and
get the information disrespected.

Guess I should just type in some bewlll sheyit about something that I'm uneducated in to post
just so that talking about the bowel won't offend anyone.

Have a nice day :(

Please don't get so upset. You may not have convinced Chad of anything, but I can tell you that you have motivated me to read at least one of those books that you linked. And there is a good chance that after I read one of the books, that I will motivate one or two others to read it as well. That is how information spreads.

This debate reminds me a lot of the vaccine debate. My mother is in healthcare, and I've been trying to convince her of the evils of vaccines for a long time. Her: "I don't trust your sources. They are not doctors." So I spent a week tracking down all kinds of sources such as doctors and others in the medical community, a lot of whom had been fired or had their medical licenses taken from them for being outspoken. When I gave the information to my mother, she didn't even read it. Her: "That information is not published in medical journals by reputable blah blah blah." You can bet that if I was able to find medical journal studies, she wouldn't read those, either.

With all due respect to Chad, the 'your sources aren't good enough' objection is extremely irrational and indicative of intellectual laziness.

dys

[letter_factory]

i totally get what you're saying, and i don't doubt that it might really work. i'm simply saying that if it's really true you would think that there would be at least one study (maybe even suppressed) that backs it up, not just anecdotal doctor stories who "cured" 50 people with it or whatever. you would think one scientist or big pharma company would have some study involving thousands of people locked away somewhere backing up the claim. as i have not seen any proof of this, i have to go with "it might work, but there's no scientific proof that it does." that's my only angle. i read through that book the ohl posted, and there's about 200 things it looks like he had the patients do, so i don't understand how he knows the coffee enema is the thing that helped.


You just soudn really young and naive, like you've never had any hardship, so you've never had to try something that might help (not just talking about coffee enemas) and base life from your own experience. You also cop off this attitude and make fun of people who might do it without any information whatsoever, but then you expect people to hand you information. that's not how it works.

When you get older and your body starts to slow down, you can go listen to your doctor and read all the scientific papers you want. they'll tell you it's natural and part of aging.

[dys]

i totally get what you're saying, and i don't doubt that it might really work. i'm simply saying that if it's really true you would think that there would be at least one study (maybe even suppressed) that backs it up, not just anecdotal doctor stories who "cured" 50 people with it or whatever. you would think one scientist or big pharma company would have some study involving thousands of people locked away somewhere backing up the claim. as i have not seen any proof of this, i have to go with "it might work, but there's no scientific proof that it does." that's my only angle. i read through that book the ohl posted, and there's about 200 things it looks like he had the patients do, so i don't understand how he knows the coffee enema is the thing that helped.

I totally disagree with you. I would say the opposite. If it really works, I would think that there wouldn't be one study that is practically available for you to look at it. Why? Because if it really works, that information is a threat to the medical community/ big pharma as is presently constituted. And the bad guys can't have that. My experience is that information suppression is the single best indicator of truth.

dys

[Joe King]

I totally disagree with you. I would say the opposite. If it really works, I would think that there wouldn't be one study that is practically available for you to look at it. Why? Because if it really works, that information is a threat to the medical community/ big pharma as is presently constituted. And the bad guys can't have that. My experience is that information suppression is the single best indicator of truth.

dysThat part is very true. Even if a coffee enema was the cure to all ills known to mankind, no pharmacutical company would touch it. The last thing they want to do is to spend millions proving the effacy of a readibly avaliable and non-patentable substance.
If anything, they'd spend $ on a study to prove it didn't work. lol

As for actually using coffee for an enema, all I can say is that I hope everyone who tries is smart enough to not use hot coffee. :o :D

[Book]

Requiring clinical trials as proof is the classic 'fallacy of authority'. The truth value of information is not dependent on authority.



Illogical retort.

The value of clinical trials is also having a large number of people validate the premise...not just you or your Aunt Sally sayin' it works.

::)

[hoarder]

Illogical retort.

The value of clinical trials is also having a large number of people validate the premise...not just you or your Aunt Sally sayin' it works.

::)1) Jews control big pharma.
2) Jews control AMA and Hospitals.
3) Jews are famous for bottlenecking the collection of ideas.
4) Jews control "large numbers of people"
5) Jews silence people who differ from their agendas.
6) Large numbers of people are not very smart.
7) Truth is not a democracy.

[ximmy]

1) Jews control big pharma.
2) Jews control AMA and Hospitals.
3) Jews are famous for bottlenecking the collection of ideas.
4) Jews control "large numbers of people"
5) Jews silence people who differ from their agendas.
6) Large numbers of people are not very smart.
7) Truth is not a democracy.

you forgot...

In support of anything to shove up your ass... Jews!

[Serpo]

okay, show me the coffee enema clinical trials and make me look foolish. and i'll need some real science here, not something copied and pasted off a natural healing website.

How can they have these trials for a natural product,no body is going to make any money out of it.They only have trials for stuff they want to make a fortune from and usually at the expense of the publics health.

No one can patient a coffee enema and if you only believe in stuff that has had these trials then you may as well believe in the banks and what they tell us as well.

[ximmy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhNFv4XLB0A

[solid]

No one can patient a coffee enema and if you only believe in stuff that has had these trials then you may as well believe in the banks and what they tell us as well.

The thing that gets me, is how am I supposed to know 100% if this works?

For example, right now I'm healthy and cancer free. Say tomorrow, I start stuffing coffee up my ass every day for the next 50 years.

Say, in 50 years I'm cancer free still. How do I know that it's because of the coffee?

Perhaps, if I skipped the daily coffee enema, I'd still be cancer free. That would be a hoot, find out 50 years of coffee enemas actually did NOTHING.

[chad]

The thing that gets me, is how am I supposed to know 100% if this works?

For example, right now I'm healthy and cancer free. Say tomorrow, I start stuffing coffee up my ass every day for the next 50 years.

Say, in 50 years I'm cancer free still. How do I know that it's because of the coffee?

Perhaps, if I skipped the daily coffee enema, I'd still be cancer free. That would be a hoot, find out 50 years of coffee enemas actually did NOTHING.

exactly.

[Old Herb Lady]

The thing that gets me, is how am I supposed to know 100% if this works?

For example, right now I'm healthy and cancer free. Say tomorrow, I start stuffing coffee up my ass every day for the next 50 years.

Say, in 50 years I'm cancer free still. How do I know that it's because of the coffee?

Perhaps, if I skipped the daily coffee enema, I'd still be cancer free. That would be a hoot, find out 50 years of coffee enemas actually did NOTHING.

Enemas are only to be given during a time of cleansing or acute illness. They are not meant to be an everyday thing.
That would make your body dependant on them & you wouldn't be able to move your bowels because your body would be to used to them.
A simple procedure meant to help a person isn't meant to be abuse to the body if used as you suggested.

And just how many enemas have you two done say over the past 2 years on people. Ball park figure.
What kind ? Coffee enema, herb tea enema, aloe vera enema, olive oil enema ? Just curious.
Lukewarm water, cold water ? Distilled water , spring water ?

[chad]

Enemas are only to be given during a time of cleansing or acute illness. They are not meant to be an everyday thing.
That would make your body dependant on them & you wouldn't be able to move your bowels because your body would be to used to them.
A simple procedure meant to help a person isn't meant to be abuse to the body if used as you suggested.

And just how many enemas have you two done say over the past 2 years on people. Ball park figure.
What kind ? Coffee enema, herb tea enema, aloe vera enema, olive oil enema ? Just curious.
Lukewarm water, cold water ? Distilled water , spring water ?

i haven't done any. but then again, i'm not in the throws of acute illness. my bowels move fine as i am a vegetarian going on over 20+ years. how do i know when this "needing to cleanse" period is upon me?

[zap]

I'm sorry I just had to laugh out loud at Solids post !!

I have no idea if enemas work, Not really in a big hurry to try one.

But I will respect your opinions, because I know you have studied extensively, OHL.

[Old Herb Lady]

i haven't done any. but then again, i'm not in the throws of acute illness. my bowels move fine as i am a vegetarian going on over 20+ years. how do i know when this "needing to cleanse" period is upon me?

I thought you were just talking about cooking up some bacon on the stove there, Chad.
I don't know when you would need a cleanse, only you would know when you're so full of shit that it needs purged.
John Wayne was backed up an extra 70 pounds and Elvis was backed up but I can't remember how bad they said it was.

[chad]

I thought you were just talking about cooking up some bacon on the stove there, Chad.
I don't know when you would need a cleanse, only you would know when you're so full of shit that it needs purged.
John Wayne was backed up an extra 70 pounds and Elvis was backed up but I can't remember how bad they said it was.

i cook lots of stuff for other people that i don't eat.

so, only i know if i have to be purged + have an enema. i guess there's no reason to be condescending and insinuate that i don't understand natural health because i've never done one then.

[solid]

i cook lots of stuff for other people that i don't eat.

so, only i know if i have to be purged + have an enema. i guess there's no reason to be condescending and insinuate that i don't understand natural health because i've never done one then.

I've never had an enema either, and don't plan on one. The only way I could be talked into one, is if she was very, very hot and sexy. I might cave in at that point.

[Serpo]

The thing that gets me, is how am I supposed to know 100% if this works?

For example, right now I'm healthy and cancer free. Say tomorrow, I start stuffing coffee up my ass every day for the next 50 years.

Say, in 50 years I'm cancer free still. How do I know that it's because of the coffee?

Perhaps, if I skipped the daily coffee enema, I'd still be cancer free. That would be a hoot, find out 50 years of coffee enemas actually did NOTHING.

Im not sure this sounds like a good idea, its more of a treatment process and it isnt something to do every day.



There is no one answer but a combination of many.

[po boy]

Try reading a book from Dr. Max Gerson called "A Cancer Therapy...the result of 50 cases."

Isn't a doctor who performed the enemas on people good enough to be "clinical trials" ?

"Science & clinical trials" are fixed, the real truth is in the real results with real people helping real people get really well.

Seventy years worth of work doesn't mean anything ??

PDF:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:fbIPUuRko-8J:www.whale.to/cancer/ferrellgerson.pdf+a+cancer+therapy+results+of+50+c ases+pdf&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjrBIijHWjnP4fDcv04V46VmJ8syXSYhVhdRj-NFzT7DAiMq8lWG3Ur6QoRbyvW76gKpkL7e7P4jJl0QZ1vhqckt ouHq9gMzFif9lCIEJQo3WgMvFfRHp9y1hQeWz6gPKnL_ZfP&sig=AHIEtbSvS-ivm5EdWWPB5sfKD4h3HJARbw


Edit: if "clinical trials" and "science" proved that they helped (by the government's standards) then enemas would be outlawed
and the person doing them would be thrown in jail, fined, and have any licensures they hold removed.

I have that book and lent it out 2 days after getting it and have 2 other to read before I can get to it. First heard about it in a documentary "A Beautiful Truth" I believe. I have a good constitution as you say but need to start somewhere.

[dys]

Illogical retort.

The value of clinical trials is also having a large number of people validate the premise...not just you or your Aunt Sally sayin' it works.

::)

I can't speak specifically to coffee enemas, but in other matters (i.e.- vaccines) there are large numbers of people that disagree with the clinical trials. However, the objection to that is always some version of 'the source is not valid'....meaning the source is not an accepted authority. Again, the fallacy of authority.

dys