Mayan Calendar Explained

[Serpo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMkb8RV9JHU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMkb8RV9JHU

I believe the KEY to the future is learning ,understanding and following the Mayan calendar.

It may sound strange that a calendar could change your whole outlook .


12:60 and 13:20

It is simple to understand the 12:60 and 13:20 timing frequencies. In the 12:60 frequency people are ruled by the clock and money, the deadening "daily grind" takes precedence over spiritual purpose. In the 12:60 frequency, time is money.
In the 13:20 frequency, time is art. In the 13:20 frequency, people are ruled by their heart, nature and art and guided by dreams and synchronicity. Spiritual cultivation is the number one goal. In the 13:20 frequency synchronicity is the norm. Everything is always in perfect order. Everything is always on time. Everything is always new. Each day is a cosmic unfoldment.
"The essence of the discovery of the timing frequency is a simple one. The 12:60 refers to an unconsciously accepted order of time that is artificial in nature. Twelve refers to the codification of daily time into an irregular and arbitrary calendar of 12 months. Originated in Babylonia, the final historical form of the 12-month system was instituted in 1583 by the Vatican as the Gregorian calendar, which is now accepted as the standard in use world-wide. Sixty refers to the equally arbitrary division of the day into 24 (2 x 12) hours of 60 minutes each. The result of the 12:60 is the creation of a timing frequency whose mental field of consciousness is dominated by mechanization and a third-dimensional science of space-matter. Unconscious acceptance of this 12:60 timing frequency is the single most contributing factor to the problem of human alienation from nature.
"The timing frequency discovery further demonstrates that the division of the solar year into 12 periods or months is an arbitrary one based on divisions of the circle, a construct of the geometry of space, into 12 parts of 30 degrees or days each. From the outset, the stream of civilization originating in Mesopotamia was rooted in space, and what it thought to be time was only a measure of space. The antecedents of the Gregorian calendar find their origin in Egypt and Babylonia, ca 3000 BC, at which time the spatial geometry of the circle arose. The timing of this occurrence in the ancient Middle East corresponds closely to the Mayan timing frequency which describes a 5126-year "great cycle" (http://www.lawoftime.org/infobooth/baktunmap.html) beginning in 3113 BC and ending in AD 2013."

- José Argüelles, The Call of Pacal Votan
http://www.lawoftime.org/infobooth/1260and1320.html

[Serpo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ufWklydk3U&feature=gv
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKDpnQnFACg&feature=gv

Can anyone explain the Mayan calendar and why it ends on December of 2012?

And is it so mysterious just because it is so correct in an astronomical sense?

Best Answer - Chosen by Asker

If you're serious about looking into it, it's going to take more than just reading an artcicle. Here's an amazing lecture about it all. It's a long one, but well worth it. The first 10 or 15 minutes of it goes a little slow, but stick with it...it's important. The end of the lecture is mind-blowing and fabulous.

I'd also like to add, that 2012 is prophesized in almost every tradition, not just the Mayans. Though they have different "stories" around it, most of them say the same thing once you boil it all down. I've been researching all this for some time. My conclusion is that it's going to be a beautiful event. :) (although, undoubtedly, the earth will have some changes)

Again, I can't stress enough how great this vid is. I recommend that you watch it and share it with your friends. :)
Source(s):

Part One:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=… (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8689261981090121097)

Part Two:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid= (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-567329528148516232)

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070910120349AAUxkJ2

[Twisted Titan]

i just want to know when the next doom date is


The cottage industry of hacks are getting kida nervous as they dont have a new one to push yet

[MNeagle]

Have you watched the vids Serpo?

[Golden]

I have watched the videos. They are informative if the viewer is receptive.

[MNeagle]

Thx, it's just that my buffering is so slow I doubt I'd get through them in a timely fashion! I wonder if Netflix carries it...

[Golden]

A calendar converter for your consideration... http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/calendar/

[Santa]

The Mayan Calender video was Awesome! Wow!

[ximmy]

the dramatic music makes it all the more convincing... ::)

[Ponce]

To me nothing happens till it happens........... a guy could be standing ten feet away pointing a rifle at me and about to press the trigger and I would say "Oh well, I am dead" but then he drops dead because someone else shot him first.......so........ never give up hope till it happens.

You could ask......"How come you got so much tp if TSHTF hasen't happen yet?" and my answer is......there are some thing that you know that will happen for sure and you do something about it........there is a big difference between what could happen and what is going to happen.

[Golden]

the dramatic music makes it all the more convincing... ::)

And coincidence is a way in which people try to escape bearing any responsibility.

[ximmy]

And coincidence is a way in which people try to escape bearing any responsibility.

and religious zealots think coincidence is a miracle...

[Golden]

and religious zealots think coincidence is a miracle...

::) Made you look.

[ximmy]

::) Made you look.

You're Very Fast, Argyle.

[EE_]

You're Very Fast, Argyle.

Hi ximmy, did you have a nice Holiday?
Is that you climbing the wall?...do you need a boost?

[Serpo]

To me nothing happens till it happens........... a guy could be standing ten feet away pointing a rifle at me and about to press the trigger and I would say "Oh well, I am dead" but then he drops dead because someone else shot him first.......so........ never give up hope till it happens.

You could ask......"How come you got so much tp if TSHTF hasen't happen yet?" and my answer is......there are some thing that you know that will happen for sure and you do something about it........there is a big difference between what could happen and what is going to happen.

Its not about disaster but about being able to understand a new calendar system.........

and this takes some time

[Serpo]

http://www.mayanmajix.com/lab_F1.html



http://www.mayanmajix.com/TZOLKIN/DT/DT.html

here is a link to a daily calendar

there is also one called the dreamspell calendar which is a little bit contentious but is easily download to your computer .

http://www.bio-plasmics.org/dreamspell.htm

Each day in the Mayan calendar is special and is represented by a glyph and some other information.

Learning more about the Mayan calendar and how to understand it on a day to day basis is the challenge


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[Serpo]

The Mayan Calendar has come to an End
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The Mayan calendar has come to an end. This means that the universe has attained its highest possible quantum state as of October 28, 2011. In mythological language, Bolon Yokte Kuh, the nine-support-god, and especially the unity consciousness of the ninth wave has been strongly experienced by a certain number of people. Many now typically report that they experience a flattening of time, an end to time acceleration and as a result a great calmness. The end to the acceleration of time is even experienced as a deceleration and some have reached so deep into their own presence that the term “future’’ is starting to loose its previous meaning. The future is no longer a place to get to. With the completion of the Ninth wave we potentially already have direct access to all the guidance we need. This shifted experience of time all seems understandable given that was has happened is that the directed nine evolutionary processes from seed to mature have now been completed. For those that have a conscious relationship to the tree of life the new experience of time will continue to deepen also after this shift. As we know from all previous experience of the shifting energies of the Mayan calendar it always takes time until their external manifestations become visible.
A good thing about the end to the Mayan calendar is that the world did not also come to an end on October 28, 2011. We now have reasons once and for all to throw out the notion that an end to the world was somehow scripted by the Mayan calendar. This should also go for many of the sometimes crazy disaster scenarios that were suggested under the influence of the high frequency of the Ninth wave when it was sometimes hard to keep the balance. The Mayan calendar is primarily about changes in the human beings themselves and everything else is secondary.
Unfortunately, the October 28 date was sometimes popularized as if the whole transformation would occur on this very date and some big media came to talk about it as another end of the world date. For some, the absence of a catastrophic scenario have then led them to question whether the calendar has actually come to an end, which shows to what extent many have become addicted to Hollywood’s view of the world. As I see it however we are now, as of October 29, 2011 entering an era where the future is no longer scripted and what happens will be entirely up to the human beings. This is a situation that has never existed before as up to this point the evolution of the universe has been guided by nine directed waves. For those following my work it should thus have been clear that whatever would happen on October 28, 2011 would have been the result of the processes of the nine waves leading up to this date.
There is also always reason to expect inertia, and hence delay, at such a shift. To exemplify the delay of manifestation we may for instance take the beginning of the seventh day of the Galactic Underworld on November 3, 2010, which many were celebrating as a day of balancing male and female and an end to dominance. It then took several months after shifts until it more tangibly manifested in the revolutions in Tunisia and Egypt. According to most standards “nothing” happened on the dates of either the Harmonic Convergence of August 16-17, 1987 or the Conscious Convergence of July 17-18, 2010 and so if indeed something happened in or around October 28, 2011, which I will return to below, it would be truly remarkable and a first in this regard.
Because people had different expectations, which did not always manifest, and also sometimes to confuse people, there has been a range of different forms of criticism or questions asked from me. Many advocating the December 21. 2012 end date have written critical articles usually with the essence that I am not an orthodox enough Mayanist. Maybe so, I am a person who honors truth more than tradition, and for this reason I am probably also the only person in modern times to have suggested a solution to the Mayan calendar. Thus, when people who see themselves as Mayanists or Mayan calendar experts have criticized my work they have done so without answering the relevant questions themselves. I then see little reason to respond to criticisms from people that claim to be authorities, but in fact have presented no alternative solutions. (The absurd notion that October 28, 2011 did not mark a cycle end has even been put forth as if this were not even a 13 Ahau date). It is not a solution to the Mayan calendar to say that there is another end date or that something will happen in the sky on such a date. A solution to the Mayan calendar requires a theory of how its shift points drives the evolution of the universe including human civilization. As Einstein once said, “Problems cannot be solved by the same level of thinking that created them,” and this goes for the meaning of the Mayan calendar as well.
Yet, some questions have been raised by people more broadly that need to be taken more seriously. The general prediction I expressed ten years ago in The Mayan Calendar and the Transformation of Consciousness in 2001-2002 that by the end of the calendar we would be enlightened might have been overly optimistic. This was partly of course for rhetoric reasons since I did not want to constantly repeat qualifications and possible alternative negative scenarios when after all I did know that the overall direction that the universe was heading for was unity consciousness. Moreover, it would have been a superhuman task to be able at that point in time to see exactly what the world would look like as the calendar came to an end in 2011. Not everyone who more recently has taken an interest in the Mayan calendar may realize that at the time of writing my first books the impending onset of the Galactic and Universal Underworlds represented something entirely new in the creation of the universe and the human collective: Never before had the duration of a wave been shorter than a human life-time. What this meant is that the majority of people living in 2011 would not actually have been born into the highest waves, the eighth and ninth, that had influenced the minds of humanity and the power of a wave to influence those that had not been born into it was unknown.
It was in fact clear to me already then that a large segment of humanity that had been born into the materialist Seventh wave was so shut off from spiritual experiences that they were not responsive to waves which carried a spiritual light. It was then also possible that they would resist the changes to come as those could be understood from the Mayan calendar leading up to 2011. People that have been born into the eighth wave starting in 1999 are in fact today not yet teenagers and those born into the ninth wave have not yet learned to talk. Even if you generously include people that were born into the pre-wave (starting in 1986) of the Galactic Underworld they would still be less than 25 years old and outside of all major decision making that has shaped the course of our civilization since.
Yet, there obviously also is a group who has taken an interest in the Mayan calendar and the spiritual fate of humanity even though it has not been born into the eighth or ninth waves. This group is however clearly a minority in comparison to the mainstream of people above 25 years of age, a minority that has become sensitive to the energy changes and drawn to a world of oneness because of some special experiences they might have had or personal choices they have made to practice yoga, meditation or deeksha, etc. The existence of such a group, that I belong to myself, does not change the fact that society is still run by a mainstream that was shaped by the materialist Seventh wave. Thus, even if unity consciousness now with the Ninth wave exists as a cosmic imprint most of those born into the Seventh wave will not take part in the creation of a new world unless they feel compelled to do so through the breakdown of the old. It would naturally have been nice if the universe would have taken humanity to a more advanced place as the Mayan calendar came to an end, but as it turns out it did not. I do believe however that it now has provided us with all the necessary tools for our transformation and now everything will be up to the human beings themselves.
With this background to the current situation I would like to start the discussion about what objectively happened as the Mayan calendar came to an end. On my blog at the Mayan Calendar Portal I made the prediction that the end of the Mayan calendar would mean the collapse of duality-based civilization (in fact the end of authority) and its transcendence by unity consciousness. Did this happen? I think to address this question we have to look especially at what happened along the 12 longitude East because this is the line along which duality was first established with the Sixth wave (Long Count). Thus, if duality would be transcended it is along this line, created by the Tree of Life, that we would first see the effects of this before they would spread from to both the East and the West. This is a critical point to understand. Some people have been following the Mayan calendar as a means of following a tradition and others may have been following it as an intellectual or mental structure. Yet, without a personal relationship with the Tree of Life – or the Heart of the Heavens** – and the various lines along which this creates duality and unity on our planet I do not think that it is possible to actually experience the energies of the Mayan calendar and so understand the reality it describes.
Looking then at the 12th longitude East a very notable thing at the end of the calendar was the fall of the regime of Mouammar Kadhafi, a dictator and supposedly the world’s richest man. The war in Libya had started on the first day of the Ninth wave and followed a classical seed to mature fruit process as it was completed with the final downfall of the regime in its seventh day. The reason that this process was so strictly aligned with the Ninth wave is that it manifested on the line along which duality was initially introduced and where it is now being transcended. Tripolis is located exactly on the 12th longitude and a new government was introduced there on October 31 (three days after the end of the Mayan calendar). The end to this war and the downfall of the oppressive regime has helped clear this critical line for the evolution of humanity.
Shortly before the end of the calendar there was also an intense activity to avoid a collapse of the world’s financial system in the form of the acceptance of an aid/austerity package to Greece on October 27 (The European Union is the world’s largest economy and its central nation is after all Germany, whose capital Berlin is on the planetary midline). The Greek drama was however reactivated with the idea of a referendum proposed on October 31 but later retracted. As it now looks a global economic collapse will instead be precipitated in a relatively short time by Italy (under the midline) an economy of a size that cannot be saved by other EU members. The edge of the knife upon which the future of the world’s economy is balancing has thus shifted to the midline, where its fate will be linked to that of Silvio Berlusconi, a clear representative of male sexist dominance.
Thus, the transcendence of duality may not look exactly as I, or anybody else, had envisioned it. The collapse of the world’s economy will likely be very troublesome to many of us, but as I have written before the current financial system is not consistent with the unity consciousness that has now been brought by the Ninth wave. The most important practical steps in the direction of unity consciousness would probably have to be taken in the economic arena. Unity consciousness is not a state of mind of an individual. Unity consciousness manifests primarily in the absence of relationships of dominance especially in the world’s economical and political systems. Despite its limited reach I feel the Occupy Everywhere group that called for a global “Shut down of the System” on October 28, 2011 had intuitively grasped that the Mayan calendar is all about the end to dominance and duality.
Another thing that happened close to the midline at October 28, 2011 is what the successful practical testing by Italian scientists of cold fusion energy:
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-10/29/rossi-success.
As you might expect question marks regarding further scaling may remain. Yet, it seems clear to me that if there will be any chances for the 7 billion headed (as of October 31, 2011) population of humanity to survive on our planet it is imperative that a source of energy that is both safe and abundant becomes available. Fossil fuels carry the risk of global warming with large ecological consequences and the great risks associated with the use of nuclear fission energy was again recently demonstrated in Japan. If earthquakes continue at the frequency and strengths they have had in the Ninth wave then we would be at a constant risk of a global radiation disaster. For these reasons the demonstration by Rossi of a controllable energy source holds the potential of something very important that may come to save our planet. Maybe it can also be looked upon as a fruit of a process of transformation of our sources of energy that started in the first day of the Ninth wave with the nuclear crisis in Japan. If this is true it may be that people are not always looking in the right directions to see the miracles that happen around them and for this reason are all too quick to dismiss the idea that the evolution of our planet has been guided by a divine plan.
Regardless, given the few points I have mentioned above I really do not understand when some people say that “nothing” happened at or around October 28, 2011. Consider also the fact mentioned above that at the dates of the Harmonic Convergence (called for by José Argüelles) or the Conscious Convergence (called for by myself) nothing visibly happened in the external world. October 28, 2011 is then the first widely celebrated date based on the Mayan calendar when remarkable things happened on its very date. In a sense however this may not be so surprising as this was indeed the date of the shift of the ages and is likely to come down in history as such.
So what will happen after this shift? What I have meant by the “end” of the Mayan calendar is the completion of the Nine waves, including the Long Count, that have developed the cosmos up until this point each in thirteen steps. The processes from seed to mature fruit have been concluded. Bolon Yokte Kuh, the “god” of the nine forces, has descended, but “his full regalia” will continue to manifest also in the time ahead. At least on the level of the Tree of Life unity consciousness has transcended duality through the effects of the Ninth wave. In the time ahead we will continue to see the effects of this transcendence of duality to play out, but in a new way, where the timing of events are not part of processes going from seed to mature fruit. Built on the unity consciousness introduced by the ninth wave we will see a continued transformation of duality to unity consciousness in 2012 and beyond.
What is new is that there is no place, or scripted event, in the future to “get to” since the climb of the top of the pyramid of consciousness has already been accomplished. Throughout the Ninth wave thousands of people have had the experience of a heightened awareness of unity. Thus, much of what was developed in the Ninth wave such as “the world oneness revolution“ (including for instance struggles in Yemen and Syria) – now mostly known as the Occupy Movement – will continue with global objectives emanating from this unity frame of consciousness. It is, I believe, for a reason that people for a long time have been looking to the year 2012 as a year of transformation. The reason is that this year follows upon the end of the Mayan calendar on October 28, 2011 and the unity consciousness that especially the Ninth wave has brought.
From now on the future is no longer scripted in time. Of course, many people, and especially those born into the Seventh wave, did not think the future was scripted to begin with. Yet, I feel there is massive evidence presented in my books and elsewhere that indeed we have been living within a cosmic time plan regardless of whether the large media and social institutions of education chose to ignore this. Certainly, if the future is no longer scripted, the transformation to unity and to the creation of a world in harmony will come down to the human beings themselves. A lasting legacy of my solution to the Mayan calendar will then still be the demonstration of the climb to the top of the nine-storied pyramid with its unity consciousness and this is something many will need to be reminded of also in the future. It is from the unity consciousness attained by the ninth wave that a new world will be created after some time of intensifying chaos.
In one of my most recent articles before the shift I discussed what time would be like and what calendar we might want to follow in the time ahead. I will need some time before I announce my own views on this matter. A new resonance with time is now being developed by people that have experienced the shift and this has to be distinguished from the inertia of the previous consciousness of time. It seems clear that even if certain waves may continue they will not be taking us to higher levels of evolution. Instead, I believe that at the level that we have now attained we will go from doing and evolving to being in harmony. October 28, 2011 was the final shift of the ages and there will not be another one. I think there is no longer any reason to expect anything, whether good or bad, to fall down upon us at any particular date in the future since there is no longer any scripted cosmic plan. At the same time, it seems obvious that the world is still far from the goal of harmony in unity. It is then also entirely possible that this goal will be served by different collective events such as 11:11:11, the Venus Transit on June 6, 2012, 12:12:12 or December 21, 2012, etc that bring people together for intention setting, even if these dates do not have any inherent meaning in the Mayan calendar. To the extent that such celebrations have constructive goals or serve as deadlines for significant projects I will support them. The actual content of global events will now be more important than their actual timing, which is different from before October 28, 2011, when there was an intrinsic value to following the cosmic time plan.
Carl Johan Calleman
November 8, 2011


http://www.calleman.com/content/articles/MayanCalendar_has_come_to_End.htm

[Serpo]

Questions about the TZOLKIN Calendar

1) Background - The Nature of Mayan / Aztec Astrology (http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin01.html)

2) How many days in the TZOLKIN calendar ? (http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin1.html)

3) What are the 20 Mayan Sun Signs ? (http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin2.html)

4) What are the 13 Galactic Tones ? (http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin3.html)

5) What is today on the Tzolkin calendar ? (http://www.mayanmajix.com/cgi-bin/schlabo/potd.pl)

6) How would you describe the differences between Western and Mayan
astrological and astronomical practices? (http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin9.html)

7) How does the creation of a Tzolkin astrological chart differ from that
of a Western astrological chart? (http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin10.html)

8) Is a Mayan or Western style horoscope easier/harder for an
astrologer to construct? (http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin11.html)

9) How do the 20 signs of the Mayan zodiac compare to the
12 signs of the Western zodiac? (http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin12.html)

10) How does the creation of a Tzolkin astrological chart differ from that
of a Western astrological chart? (http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin14.html)

11) How are numbers involved in the creation of the Tzolkin? (http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin15.html)

12) How did the 20 day and 13 day cycle of the Mayans intertwine? (http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin13.html)

13) What astronomical omens were seen as good/bad to the Maya? (http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin16.html)

14) Are there Gem Stones Associated with each Mayan Sun Sign ? (http://www.mayanmajix.com/gemstone.html)

15) What tools are used in the construction of the Mayan zodiac? (http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin17.html)

16) Do you believe the Mayan Tzolkin will ever become as
recognized as the Western zodiac? (http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin19.html)

17) Do you believe that Mayan star knowledge will ever be
taught in astronomy courses? (http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin18.html)

18) What about the Dream Spell Calendar system by Jose Arguelles ? (http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin4.html)

19) I am in a dilemma now, in the Dreamspell I am Blue Magnetic Hand, in
the True Count I am 7 Lamat. I can't be both, is the dreamspell
totally bogus? Or is the True Count off? (http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin20.html)

20) Are you familiar with a Mayan Councel Time Keeper named
Hunbatz Men? I have been using his teachings, written by
Aluna Joy Yaxk'in. I am a little confused with todays date,
10 ahau, I have it down as 11 Ben. (http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin5.html)

21) The Tzolkin and Leap Year (http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin7.html)

22) If I follow your version of the Mayan Calendar how do I know when New
Year's day is and also how do I know what Mayan month it is? (http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin8.html)


http://www.mayanmajix.com/tzolkin.html




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[BillBoard]

Great video OP, thanks!

[keehah]

Like leading a horse to something that seems like water and telling them they drank.

[Serpo]

Like leading a horse to something that seems like water and telling them they drank.

Fact is this dosnt explain the calendar very much at all and the ONLY way to grasp it is to have it and attempt to follow it on a daily basis and in this way it is a personal experience.

[keehah]

All the old documented religions record 5-6000 year cycle, and about the same since this civilization started. Christians, Mayan and Vendic between now and 200 years or so, Judaic 700 years ago. Their start basically the flood creation story, and the record of time since based on the solar system and precession with differences in accounting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_calendar

A cyclical interpretation is also noted in Maya creation accounts, in which the present world and the humans in it were preceded by other worlds (one to five others, depending on the tradition) which were fashioned in various forms by the gods, but subsequently destroyed. The present world also had a tenuous existence, requiring the supplication and offerings of periodic sacrifice to maintain the balance of continuing existence. Similar themes are found in the creation accounts of other Mesoamerican societies

Becoming aware then not to be a sacrifice, or trying to determine how these cycles cause the environmental stresses that so often lead to the period of sacrifice, seems a more reasonable course of action than getting spiritually lost in the mechanics of accounting. It becomes belief?

Now perhaps intent with this sort of work is good, to use the Mayan calendar event to further humanity, part of the new age religion, but the foundation he is offering is not solid enough, not based in the real world. For example little effort is made to make his claims scientific, I don't think the authors can. So the top of this belief structure may be a fog of good intent and habit, but the foundation is also of fog.

[vacuum]

wow! the 3 hr talk was great. The guy died shortly after in 2005. I guess he was focused on making that video because he knew he was terminally ill?

[MAGNES]

All the old documented religions record 5-6000 year cycle, and about the same since this civilization started. Christians, Mayan and Vendic between now and 200 years or so, Judaic 700 years ago. Their start basically the flood creation story, and the record of time since based on the solar system and precession with differences in accounting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_calendar


Becoming aware then not to be a sacrifice, or trying to determine how these cycles cause the environmental stresses that so often lead to the period of sacrifice, seems a more reasonable course of action than getting spiritually lost in the mechanics of accounting. It becomes belief?

Now perhaps intent with this sort of work is good, to use the Mayan calendar event to further humanity, part of the new age religion, but the foundation he is offering is not solid enough, not based in the real world. For example little effort is made to make his claims scientific, I don't think the authors can. So the top of this belief structure may be a fog of good intent and habit, but the foundation is also of fog.

People at the Jew N, your new avatar are working on these problems,
thanks for the gem of a post, I was 100 % right about you, I put the fire
to your feet and you became more blatant, what's next posting about Lucifer,
you are totally anti Western, Pro Occult poster, "theosophist" MO, same shit as goldie,
maybe you can go apply for a job with the Lucifer Trust on how to fuck
with everyone, same way you are doing on these forums but on a bigger
scale. You troll the gim masonic round thread, you openly call yourself
a "mason", what more do people need to hear from you ? You can be
the new new age guru and give us our religion and beliefs, like I said,
the Jew N is working on this, why don't you join them and get paid .

You spoke out about this new age crap cause it does not suit you,
that's funny, what do you think is the right approach, let's have it.
You people live on bullshit forums where they teach you how to be
deceivers promoting occult crap in an underhanded sneaky way.

You were busted a long time ago along with your buddies on here.

On the old gim, you would be destroyed, not even MP/goldie/skyvike
were as blatant as some of you on here, and they were still outed.

[po boy]

Mag, I heard it said Paul is a believer in the young earth theory as well and as far as I know claims to be a christian as well.

Would you ascribe those same charges to Paul?

[vacuum]

Of interest to those in this thread and perhaps keehah and Magnes is the thread I posted a while back called The Great Year (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?56481-The-Great-Year). It's about basically a great cycle (the precession of the equinox) and it's significance.

While it isn't just western (so Magnes probably wouldn't like it after all), the Greek source is probably over 1/3rd of the material and it meshes seamlessly with the other material. It is mostly based on just facts about what ancient cultures believed and kind of ties it all together.

[MAGNES]

While it isn't just western (so Magnes probably wouldn't like it after all)


Don't confuse issues, don't change the subject, and don't make assumptions.

That is what you are doing here. I defend the Sumerians and Egyptians against their
stupid smears going back to gim, they were not " western ", in ideas, there is no reason
to corrupt anyone's history, especially Western history on this forum, that is another issue.
Not all of Western history is good, especially Greek/Roman. Many of the NewAge/Occult writers
rip off the Greeks too, give no credit, they tell you they are new ideas, corrupt them, that does
not mean the Greeks were right and holier, the Greeks themselves rip themselves apart,
people make a lot of assumptions on here. When you see the Occult clowns picking
targets, you have to ask yourself why ? I did, those targets include more than just
" western " peoples. Why ?

Read what Keehah wrote again, bottom half, that is what I am posting about.
Keehah was even for the Georgia Guidestones on gim posts.

I find it interesting that 2012 was used to scare people, now it is your future,
Fuck Off already, seriously. By the same clowns promoting this. Promote anything
that is not Western, that matters, attack the West and it's leaders in the process.
Just make shit up as you go along, throw in some real science and issues to make
yourself more convincing. Throw in that piece of voodoo. Usually by a Cult figure Guru.
Go to goldies website/forum, it is all 2012 voodoo, and related voodoo.

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Don't confuse issues, don't change the subject, and don't make assumptions.

That is what you are doing here. I defend the Sumerians and Egyptians against their
stupid smears going back to gim, they were not " western ", in ideas, there is no reason
to corrupt anyone's history, especially Western history on this forum, that is another issue.
Not all of Western history is good, especially Greek/Roman. Many of the NewAge/Occult writers
rip off the Greeks too, give no credit, they tell you they are new ideas, corrupt them, that does
not mean the Greeks were right and holier, the Greeks themselves rip themselves apart,
you people make a lot of assumptions on here. When you see the Occult clowns picking
targets, you have to ask yourself why ? I did, those targets include more than just
" western " peoples. Why ? Keehah was even for the Georgia Guidestones on gim posts.

Read what Keehah wrote again, bottom half, that is what I am posting about.

I find it interesting that 2012 was used to scare people, now it is your future,
Fuck Off already, seriously. By the same clowns promoting this. Promote anything
that is not Western, that matters, attack the West and it's leaders in the process.
Just make shit up as you go along, throw in some real science and issues to make
yourself more convincing. Throw in that piece of voodoo. Usually by a Cult figure Guru.
Go to goldies website/forum, it is all 2012 voodoo.
First of all, I don't understand what keehah wrote that you didn't like? Is it this part: "Now perhaps intent with this sort of work is good, to use the Mayan calendar event to further humanity, part of the new age religion"?

Second, neither this thread nor the thread I posted are doom related at all. I doubt you watched either of the videos so your are making assumptions about their content. If you watch the documentary I posted, for example, there is no doom, there is no new religion. And the changing of the ages isn't voodoo, its something that has apparently been tracked by civilizations for millennia.

[MAGNES]

Second, neither this thread nor the thread I posted are doom related at all.

I am speaking at the bottom paragraph in general dude,
going back to everything that has been promoted, not just
here and not just posters here, I gave the total MO. I think
I did a good job of explaining it as well, studying, experiencing,
I am giving my observations, you seem to be playing some sort
of misdirection game here, for the second time, maybe you
too are too involved with this new age voodoo and take my
comments personally, I don't know, it is clear what Keehah
wrote too, he is into it and promoting it, funny he outs some
of it here, lol, fits the rest of his posts and MO. Fits goldie too,
go to her forum. 2012, the world didn't end Occult Freaks,
what's the next game, the next put on for the lemmings.
I really do mean the Fuck Off already, it's kind of like
O VEY ! already, ffs, lol . And it is very fitting, the
parasite in question leads here.

And for the record I ain't against Mayans nor their real knowledge.
And I think the NWO crowd wants to turn us into their society
where you are sacrificed and controlled, living in a dark age, if you
think I am stretching, look at their works, like Wells, a NWO writer,
and other information out there discussed many times, including real
history where they already have experience in mass murder and
destruction, like the USSR.

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I am speaking at the bottom paragraph in general dude,
going back to everything that has been promoted, not just
here and not just posters here, I gave the total MO.
When you have some time I encourage you to watch the documentary in the thread I posted. I think you'd find it interesting. It's only 45 minutes:
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?56481-The-Great-Year

[keehah]

Magnes, its nice to have your thanks that I've posted good truth again.

[Edit: Even though you completely rewrote your post to make yourself seem sort of sane since I wrote this]

I'll start a thread this, on the same cycles and (basically) start dates of the world's oldest religions with links later.

Thanks for the 180 degree authentication my fan. Some day you will have an awakening and these posts can help.

Check your 'I smoted my eye out' thread troll, I did not troll it (even though most of your other idols did). My posts are basically on or related to OP topic, not part of the fighting.

You are so pathetic. You can even argue the truth of my post, you offer a few unrelated untrue things you made up that aren't even important if they are true.

I feel sorry for you. The main reason I changed my Avatar is because I thought you were not steadfast enough to be exposed to it.

[I'm glad you re-wrote your post in the last few minutes Magnes. A sign you may be awakening. From now on, I'll give you a day (perhaps) if I decide to respond to any further lunacy comment from you directed against me or this site. I tend to edit my posts in a second read myself in the first half hour, for clarity and spelling usually, but sometimes to remove something offensive that I think reflects more on me than any point I bought I was making.]

[Serpo]

All the old documented religions record 5-6000 year cycle, and about the same since this civilization started. Christians, Mayan and Vendic between now and 200 years or so, Judaic 700 years ago. Their start basically the flood creation story, and the record of time since based on the solar system and precession with differences in accounting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_calendar


Becoming aware then not to be a sacrifice, or trying to determine how these cycles cause the environmental stresses that so often lead to the period of sacrifice, seems a more reasonable course of action than getting spiritually lost in the mechanics of accounting. It becomes belief?

Now perhaps intent with this sort of work is good, to use the Mayan calendar event to further humanity, part of the new age religion, but the foundation he is offering is not solid enough, not based in the real world. For example little effort is made to make his claims scientific, I don't think the authors can. So the top of this belief structure may be a fog of good intent and habit, but the foundation is also of fog.

Im not sure about any belief structure and I know of no new age religion unless awakening ,raising your consciousness could be called a religion(it isnt).

Mayan calendar is more like a tool ....use it or not......

[keehah]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_religion

The traditional Maya religion of western Honduras, Guatemala, Belize, and Mexico (Chiapas and Yucatán) is a southeastern variant of Mesoamerican religion. As is the case with many other contemporary Mesoamerican religions, it results from centuries of symbiosis with Roman Catholicism. When its pre-Spanish antecedents are taken into account, however, traditional Maya religion already exists for more than two millennia as a recognizably distinct phenomenon. Before the advent of Christianity, it was spread over many indigenous kingdoms, all with their own local traditions. Today, it coexists and interacts with pan-Mayan syncretism, the 're-invention of tradition' by the Maya Movement, and Christianity in its various denominations.

[Serpo]

The Catholics burnt practically all the Mayan books on the calendar.........

[Dogman]

The Catholics burnt practically all the Mayan books on the calendar......... Only a very few codex's still exist.