View Full Version : Precisely the sort of endorsement Dr. Paul does NOT need
midnight rambler
29th December 2011, 08:37 AM
“I love Ron Paul,” (Kelly) Clarkson wrote on Thursday. “I liked him a lot during the last republican nomination and no one gave him a chance. If he wins the nomination for the Republican party in 2012 he’s got my vote. Too bad he probably won’t.”
http://www.gossipcop.com/kelly-clarkson-ron-paul-endorsement-support-president-2012-republican-twitter/
sirgonzo420
29th December 2011, 08:43 AM
It's a presidential election, not a fuckin' horse race.
The goal is not to "pick who will win" but to "elect the best candidate".
osoab
29th December 2011, 08:48 AM
This chick is relevant how?
Cebu_4_2
29th December 2011, 11:38 AM
This chick is relevant how?
She has personally experienced amerika idle
General of Darkness
29th December 2011, 11:42 AM
Maybe they'll play her song when they're kicked the negro out of the White House and cleaning it up for RP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7UrFYvl5TE&ob=av2e
iOWNme
29th December 2011, 11:45 AM
She said he probably wont win....And that is an endorsement?
Are we at war with Oceania?
Neuro
29th December 2011, 12:42 PM
She said he probably wont win....And that is an endorsement?
Are we at war with Oceania?
Aren't you Oceania, our friend forever?
midnight rambler
29th December 2011, 06:50 PM
Of course the subliminal here is all that matters, not that Clarkson 'likes' Ron Paul. A damnable 'endorsement'.
Leftist WaPost article again asserts Ron Paul "will never be nominated".
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/new-hampshire-looks-like-romneys-granite-fortress/2011/12/28/gIQA4uwFNP_print.html
midnight rambler
29th December 2011, 07:22 PM
Clarkson is an intellectual giant, check out how she trims her sheets to however the wind blows - she obviously also supports moral relativism (if it feels good, do it):
The “Miss Independent” singer’s support for Paul immediately angered many of her Twitter followers, however, leading her to insist that she did not believe in some controversial opinions attributed to Paul.
“I have never heard that he’s a racist? I definitely don’t agree with racism, that’s ignorant,” Clarkson wrote to one fan.
She also clarified that she supports gay rights.
“I love all people and could care less if you like men or women,” tweeted Clarkson, adding, “I have never seen or heard Ron Paul say anything against gay people?”
In a longer message, Clarkson set the record straight about her politics.
“I am really sorry if I have offended anyone,” she wrote. “Obviously that was not my intent. I do not support racism. I support gay rights, straight rights, women’s rights, men’s rights, white/black/purple/orange rights. I like Ron Paul because he believes in less government and letting the people (all of us) make the decisions and mold our country. That is all. Out of all the Republican nominees, he’s my favorite.”
BrewTech
29th December 2011, 07:27 PM
It's a presidential election, not a fuckin' horse race.
The goal is not to "pick who will win" but to "elect the best candidate".
Exactly. I try to tell people this, but who, in a world of lottery and office football pools, gives a flying fuck? Nobody wants to be known as the guy who picked the candidate (team, AI contestant, etc) who didn't win.
Explains why the media is constantly harping about the "standings".
midnight rambler
29th December 2011, 07:38 PM
Exactly. I try to tell people this, but who, in a world of lottery and office football pools, gives a flying fuck? Nobody wants to be known as the guy who picked the candidate (team, AI contestant, etc) who didn't win.
Explains why the media is constantly harping about the "standings".
Note Mittens' 'rise'.
http://decoded.nationaljournal.com/2011/12/why-is-no-one-attacking-romney.php
As for the 'I want the winning horse' meme, there's the phenomenon I've noted where people not only 'want to be betting on the winning horse', they also want to be 'near' 'the winning horse', i.e. see him up close, perhaps shake his hand, and be able to say later, "I got to see him upclose on the campaign trail!" I find it very strange how the rubes (and I used to be one 'cause I was drawn to a Carter appearance in Ft. Worth in '76 for that specific reason) are drawn to "some of the most important people on the planet" (as a woman friend said to me describing some of her friends hobnobbing with the likes of GHWB, McCain, Palin, etc. - it made me want to puke). Anyway, I'm seeing this phenomenon happen with Mittens the Mormon Illuminaughty, people wanting to be 'near' him 'cause he's the 'winning horse'.
midnight rambler
29th December 2011, 08:11 PM
HuffPo article on all the hate tweets Clarkson got, check out the examples in the slideshow, some very disturbed haters out there.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/29/kelly-clarkson-endorses-ron-paul-twitter-hate_n_1174612.html?icid=maing-grid7|maing5|dl8|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D123667#s579480&title=Kelly_Clarkson
Sparky
29th December 2011, 08:22 PM
I dunno; I think you're selling her too short. What about this do you find offensive:
“I am really sorry if I have offended anyone,” she wrote. “Obviously that was not my intent. I do not support racism. I support gay rights, straight rights, women’s rights, men’s rights, white/black/purple/orange rights. I like Ron Paul because he believes in less government and letting the people (all of us) make the decisions and mold our country. That is all. Out of all the Republican nominees, he’s my favorite.”
This to me is quite a libertarian stance. She's in the spotlight, so she has to be concerned about everybody examining her every word, much like what is happening in this thread. She likes wrong Paul. Someone said Ron Paul is racist. She said she's not racist. She points to gay rights as an example. Realizing she might get taken out of context, she points out that she's for gay rights in the same way that she's for everyone's rights. She sums up that she likes Ron Paul because he's for less government and personal freedom.
What the heck is wrong with any of that? I'd say she's waaaay ahead of the game.
Sparky
29th December 2011, 08:26 PM
And as for the "winning horse" thing, maybe she's registered democrat and can't vote for him in the primary, and can only vote for him if he wins the Republican nomination.
Now leave Kelly Clarkson alone and go pick on Barbra Streisand!
midnight rambler
29th December 2011, 08:50 PM
And as for the "winning horse" thing, maybe she's registered democrat and can't vote for him in the primary, and can only vote for him if he wins the Republican nomination.
Now leave Kelly Clarkson alone and go pick on Barbra Streisand!
HuffPo article says Clarkson is a Republican, yet voted Democrap in 2008.
po boy
29th December 2011, 09:24 PM
HuffPo article on all the hate tweets Clarkson got, check out the examples in the slideshow, some very disturbed haters out there.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/29/kelly-clarkson-endorses-ron-paul-twitter-hate_n_1174612.html?icid=maing-grid7|maing5|dl8|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D123667#s579480&title=Kelly_Clarkson
Man that's sad the way they are treating that girl in the comments. So many ignorant comments. I hope she keeps her head held high.
keehah
30th December 2011, 01:15 PM
Good on Matt for speaking out!
This article is in the news today:
Elle Magazine: Matt Damon: Hollywood’s Sexiest Mr. Nice Guy (http://www.elle.com/Pop-Culture/Celebrity-Spotlight/Matt-Damon-Hollywood-s-Sexiest-Mr.-Nice-Guy/Matt-Damon-Hollywood-s-Sexiest-Mr.-Nice-Guy-Read-More-Celebrity-Interviews-on-ELLE.com)
All-American A-lister Matt Damon on politics, fatherhood, and why he’s no Clooney
Is it mere coincidence that today, just down the Vancouver street from where Damon sits, the first day of Occupy Wall Street–offshoot wildfire has flared up over the border? “I’ve talked to a lot of people who worked for Obama at the grassroots level. One of them said to me, ‘Never again. I will never be fooled again by a politician,’ ” Damon says, his disappointment ringing with a now-familiar tone of wounded idealism. “You know, a one-term president with some balls who actually got stuff done would have been, in the long run of the country, much better.” Damon gestures in the direction, just out of sight over the tree line, of the sign-wielding picketers who are beginning to gather steam. “If the Democrats think that they didn’t have a mandate—people are literally without any focus or leadership, just wandering out into the streets to yell right now because they are so pissed off,” he says. “Imagine if they had a leader.”
[Edited to the original article]
sirgonzo420
30th December 2011, 01:26 PM
Good on Matt for speaking out!
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/12/21/matt-damon-rips-into-president-obama-dubs-him-one-term-president/?intcmp=obinsite#ixzz1i3SdWBKy
Methinks Matt Damon is upset with the kenyan because he's not communist enough.
Libertytree
30th December 2011, 02:51 PM
Repost:
Clarkson Sales Skyrocket Amid 'I Love Paul' Backlash (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/12/30/kelly-clarkson-loses-some-fans-over-her-endorsement-ron-paul/)
Libertytree
30th December 2011, 02:58 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and predict that other celebs/prominent people will voice their positive opinion of Ron Paul, even damning the consequences, knowing full well there's more benefit than harm.
keehah
30th December 2011, 07:16 PM
Repost:
Clarkson Sales Skyrocket Amid 'I Love Paul' Backlash (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/12/30/kelly-clarkson-loses-some-fans-over-her-endorsement-ron-paul/)
Sales double again hours later.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/30/news/kelly_clarkson_ron_paul/
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- A word of advice to prospective American Idol contestants: vote libertarian.
One day after she announced her support for Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul on Twitter, sales of pop singer Kelly Clarkson's most recent album were surging Friday on Amazon.com.
Sales of Clarkson's album Stronger shot up 442% between Thursday and Friday afternoon on Amazon (AMZN, Fortune 500), moving the album from #38 to #7 on Amazon's sales list.
While there's no way to tell whether her support for Paul was the only reason for this jump, the endorsement clearly made a difference for some fans.
"I must admit I have not really followed you but your recent stance on Ron Paul made me check you out," one fan wrote Friday in a review of the album on Amazon. "If you are smart enough to support Ron Paul then you are probably talented too."
"JUST DISCOVERED YOU...BECAUSE OF RON PAUL!" another wrote. "The energy of these songs would be great as Ron Paul event background music."...
Libertytree
30th December 2011, 07:38 PM
Sales double again hours later.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/30/news/kelly_clarkson_ron_paul/
"Sales of Clarkson's album Stronger shot up 442% between Thursday and Friday afternoon on Amazon (AMZN, Fortune 500), moving the album from #38 to #7 on Amazon's sales list.
While there's no way to tell whether her support for Paul was the only reason for this jump, the endorsement clearly made a difference for some fans."
No way to tell my ass! She just magically got a bump of 442%!? LMAO And from #38 to #7!!? That's outrageous in the music biz folks, it just doesn't happen, EVER!
MNeagle
30th December 2011, 07:42 PM
well, if they die it sometimes happens....
AndreaGail
31st December 2011, 09:46 AM
looks like her album is up to #2 now on amazon
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/kelly-clarkson-album-sales-surge-ron-paul-presidential-endorsement-article-1.999207
Libertytree
31st December 2011, 10:13 AM
looks like her album is up to #2 now on amazon
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/kelly-clarkson-album-sales-surge-ron-paul-presidential-endorsement-article-1.999207
A 1,450% jump!
sirgonzo420
31st December 2011, 10:36 AM
*waits for others to endorse Dr Paul to increase sales*
Libertytree
31st December 2011, 11:37 AM
*waits for others to endorse Dr Paul to increase sales*
IDK Gonzo, I think this would be an isolated case and not the norm. What it does show others is to not be afraid to speak their mind and stand by their convictions, that the consequences don't have to be negative but transversely can be very rewarding. At least she's not a pussy, that's more than I can say for a lot of them.
Sparky
31st December 2011, 02:28 PM
If she anticipated that a Ron Paul endorsement, of all things, would boost her sales, then she's a freakin' genius!
k-os
31st December 2011, 05:21 PM
While I agree that she could have left the part out about him likely not being nominated, I think it was really cool of her to speak her mind against the established liberal-entertainment-groupthink.
Right on, Kelly! Enjoy that boost in sales, baby!
osoab
31st December 2011, 07:22 PM
So RP fanatics are that sheepled to run out and buy her CD?
BrewTech
31st December 2011, 08:48 PM
So RP fanatics are that sheepled to run out and buy her CD?
That was my question. I said it before, and I'll say it again:
Kelly Clarkson is THEIR creation, and a social engineering weapon in THEIR arsenal, not ours. Whatever she does, she does according to THEIR direction, They made her, and they can unmake her, and she knows it.
keehah
31st December 2011, 09:01 PM
That was my question. I said it before, and I'll say it again:
Kelly Clarkson is THEIR creation, and a social engineering weapon in THEIR arsenal, not ours. Whatever she does, she does according to THEIR direction, They made her, and they can unmake her, and she knows it.
Are you saying the elections were rigged?
Even if they were, they can't admit it without unmaking the whole show too! She can call their bluff! ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Clarkson
Main articles: American Idol (season 1) and World Idol
Clarkson auditioned for the first season of American Idol in May 2002. She subsequently won the competition on September 4, 2002, earning 58% of the vote to 42% for runner-up Justin Guarini.
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