View Full Version : I need a Ron Paul pep talk...
EE_
8th January 2012, 06:17 AM
I'm quickly losing faith...help me restore my hope.
How can Ron win the nomination with poor performances like last nights debate?
Where is his vision for our country?
How will he fight/beat Obama?
How will he lead the country?
Why does he not tell us these things in debates?
Are we doomed for more of the same with an Obama or an O'Romney?
po boy
8th January 2012, 07:41 AM
I'm quickly losing faith...help me restore my hope.
How can Ron win the nomination with poor performances like last nights debate?
Where is his vision for our country?
How will he fight/beat Obama?
How will he lead the country?
Why does he not tell us these things in debates?
Are we doomed for more of the same with an Obama or an O'Romney?
I don't know bout you or if he will win. Chin up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s_IUwwGq-A
EE_
8th January 2012, 07:46 AM
Where's the part where he says firmly, he will restore an honest and constitutional government to washington?
po boy
8th January 2012, 07:54 AM
It is run by the CONSENT of the governed. Very simply quit consenting and carry a big knowledge stick.
In the mean time here's some Marley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgRm1ISlw_A&feature=related
platinumdude
8th January 2012, 08:31 AM
4 more years of Obama and our current house and senate will fix everything.
EE_
8th January 2012, 08:36 AM
4 more years of Obama and our current house and senate will fix everything.
You are not helping me mister...:(
Libertytree
8th January 2012, 08:58 AM
I'm quickly losing faith...help me restore my hope.
How can Ron win the nomination with poor performances like last nights debate?
Where is his vision for our country?
How will he fight/beat Obama?
How will he lead the country?
Why does he not tell us these things in debates?
Are we doomed for more of the same with an Obama or an O'Romney?
In chat last night we both agreed that RP's performance wasn't as good as we had hoped and while I still think he could have done better, particularly w/ the question about his vision for America, I've since upgraded my evaluation. Not because of my perceptions but because of other peoples and the Media's perceptions. In all the outlets RP seems to have done very well, much to my surprise and not by my standard, so it seems that maybe it's my expectations that are raised too high. Not that it's a bad thing but maybe, just maybe, expecting RP to always eclipse his last great oratorial is an expectation that even RP can't live up to?
The race is still early, there's time for him to continue to learn (he admits as much)and deliver these things as time progresses, which I think he will.
Last nights debate was not the wash out we thought it was EE, maybe by our standards and hopes, but out there in America he made strides with real people and isn't that the name of the game?
I'll find his comments from last night compiled and we'll take another look.
Libertytree
8th January 2012, 09:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SvZ5D_fU39w
iOWNme
8th January 2012, 09:06 AM
Where's the part where he says firmly, he will restore an honest and constitutional government to washington?
Can 1 man do this? Sounds like another dictator. A dictator for Liberty. Thats the problem we face, in order to do that he would have to subvert all of the checks and balances....Kind of like another Lincoln. He thought he was 'Preserving the Union' while destroying the checks and balances......Quite perplexing and ironic.
But maybe thats how this will work? RP gets elected, and since all of the power has been transferred to the Executive branch, he will use his authoritarian power to restore the true power structure of the intended branches; thus giving away most of the Executive power back to the other 2 branches......
Joe King
8th January 2012, 09:08 AM
I'm quickly losing faith...help me restore my hope.
How can Ron win the nomination with poor performances like last nights debate?
Where is his vision for our country?
How will he fight/beat Obama?
How will he lead the country?
Why does he not tell us these things in debates?
Are we doomed for more of the same with an Obama or an O'Romney?
His "vision" for the nation is that it abides by the Constitution as written and intended.
When nominated, he will handily beat Obama in the debates and over the facts.
He'll lead by following the Constitution.
He does tell us these things.
Most def we are dooomed for more the same with either the Obaminater or the Romulon.
Or Sanitarium, for that matter.
General of Darkness
8th January 2012, 09:22 AM
EE, it's as simple as this, fuck the media who's against him, they will NEVER give him a fair shake, BUT we have to stay strong.
Here's what I suggest people. I've purchased two of these to put on either of my vehicles. People will see it and some might say who's Ron Paul or say yeah, Ron Paul. Humans are a funny lot, we tend to want to be in a group, ie my team, my this my that, my GROUP. The more they see RP supporters the more they'll say, "I'm NOT alone" and will want to be apart of that group. IMO.
http://c3244172.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/wpsc/product_images/RP-Magnet-Big-Blue.jpg
They're $15 a piece. For $30 bucks I donate to RP plus I become a rolling endorsement.
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/store/signs-and-magnets/ron-paul-2012-blue-car-magnets-18-x-12/
EE_
8th January 2012, 09:30 AM
EE, it's as simple as this, fuck the media who's against him, they will NEVER give him a fair shake, BUT we have to stay strong.
Here's what I suggest people. I've purchased two of these to put on either of my vehicles. People will see it and some might say who's Ron Paul or say yeah, Ron Paul. Humans are a funny lot, we tend to want to be in a group, ie my team, my this my that, my GROUP. The more they see RP supporters the more they'll say, "I'm NOT alone" and will want to be apart of that group. IMO.
http://c3244172.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/wpsc/product_images/RP-Magnet-Big-Blue.jpg
They're $15 a piece. For $30 bucks I donate to RP plus I become a rolling endorsement.
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/store/signs-and-magnets/ron-paul-2012-blue-car-magnets-18-x-12/
Just don't leave them on the vehicle when unattended...some republican might take a key to your car.
EE_
8th January 2012, 09:35 AM
Can 1 man do this? Sounds like another dictator. A dictator for Liberty. Thats the problem we face, in order to do that he would have to subvert all of the checks and balances....Kind of like another Lincoln. He thought he was 'Preserving the Union' while destroying the checks and balances......Quite perplexing and ironic.
But maybe thats how this will work? RP gets elected, and since all of the power has been transferred to the Executive branch, he will use his authoritarian power to restore the true power structure of the intended branches; thus giving away most of the Executive power back to the other 2 branches......
How would one man do this? Once he became president, he would have to expose and rat out all the evil and criminals in congress, where they get their money and who's buying them. For a start.
LuckyStrike
8th January 2012, 10:16 AM
I was watching RT the other day, and one of the producers on the show said that he personally supports RP but because he isn't a leader he doubt the majority of the country would. I was kinda stunned and amazed that I had never thought of that before. Sure I've realized that he isn't a great orator but I had never really considered if he was a leader. I don't think he is. He has many good qualities, namely his honesty and integrity but those things alone don't make a leader.
I am of the opinion that someone other than RP could have the exact same opinions and also gain more support, they could respond to the media smears much better and instill confidence in the American people that he is in control and that whatever comes he will be able to handle it.
But EE_ at the end of the day, regardless of if RP wins it is reassuring to know that people are waking up to reality. And from everything I've heard RP doesn't want to be POTUS, he wants to spread his message to a national audience and it just so happens that running for President gives you exposure to the most people.
EE_
8th January 2012, 10:21 AM
I was watching RT the other day, and one of the producers on the show said that he personally supports RP but because he isn't a leader he doubt the majority of the country would. I was kinda stunned and amazed that I had never thought of that before. Sure I've realized that he isn't a great orator but I had never really considered if he was a leader. I don't think he is. He has many good qualities, namely his honesty and integrity but those things alone don't make a leader.
I am of the opinion that someone other than RP could have the exact same opinions and also gain more support, they could respond to the media smears much better and instill confidence in the American people that he is in control and that whatever comes he will be able to handle it.
But EE_ at the end of the day, regardless of if RP wins it is reassuring to know that people are waking up to reality. And from everything I've heard RP doesn't want to be POTUS, he wants to spread his message to a national audience and it just so happens that running for President gives you exposure to the most people.
Which brings us back to the point there's nothing left but revolution.
I'm A-okay with that! Better to have people that have awaken to fight by our side!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr6eHza6JVI&feature=related
midnight rambler
8th January 2012, 10:24 AM
They're $15 a piece. For $30 bucks I donate to RP plus I become a rolling endorsement.FYI, the campaign nets ZERO from any sales from the 'official campaign store', yet any money you spend at that 'store' goes against what you can contribute to the campaign. 100% of your money sent into the 'official campaign store' goes into the pocket of Mark Elam. http://www.crpolitics.com/html/our_staff.html
gunDriller
8th January 2012, 10:34 AM
You are not helping me mister...:(
Nancy Pelosi is talking about retiring.
I hope that helps, at least a little.
Ron Paul has made almost the best case possible for himself. He is not always as well-spoken as some candidate.
Both Romney & Ron Paul have a lot of support in New Hampshire.
Part of the decision now lies with Diebold & other Jew-controlled vote-counting organizations. That is a big part of the problem.
Joe King
8th January 2012, 10:39 AM
I was watching RT the other day, and one of the producers on the show said that he personally supports RP but because he isn't a leader he doubt the majority of the country would. I was kinda stunned and amazed that I had never thought of that before. Sure I've realized that he isn't a great orator but I had never really considered if he was a leader. I don't think he is. He has many good qualities, namely his honesty and integrity but those things alone don't make a leader.
Sadly, that's because most people today look for the traits of a King in the leader of their Republic, as opposed to a guardian of their Liberty
sirgonzo420
8th January 2012, 10:42 AM
Dana Bash (née Schwartz...) points out that Ron Paul's campaign has enough voters identified to.... (whoops! technical difficulties again!)...
youtube.com/watch?v=t0xWBkKtscM
MNeagle
8th January 2012, 11:38 AM
You want the sizzle or the steak?
midnight rambler
8th January 2012, 11:47 AM
You want the sizzle or the steak?
Definitely the symbolism over the substance. /sarc
sirgonzo420
8th January 2012, 12:07 PM
I was watching RT the other day, and one of the producers on the show said that he personally supports RP but because he isn't a leader he doubt the majority of the country would. I was kinda stunned and amazed that I had never thought of that before. Sure I've realized that he isn't a great orator but I had never really considered if he was a leader. I don't think he is. He has many good qualities, namely his honesty and integrity but those things alone don't make a leader.
I am of the opinion that someone other than RP could have the exact same opinions and also gain more support, they could respond to the media smears much better and instill confidence in the American people that he is in control and that whatever comes he will be able to handle it.
But EE_ at the end of the day, regardless of if RP wins it is reassuring to know that people are waking up to reality. And from everything I've heard RP doesn't want to be POTUS, he wants to spread his message to a national audience and it just so happens that running for President gives you exposure to the most people.
eh.... I don't feel like running.
lol
Horn
8th January 2012, 12:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SvZ5D_fU39w
In debates, sometimes the guy that has a harder go at it and survives, will be perceived the winner in the longer term view.
midnight rambler
8th January 2012, 12:48 PM
Just watched Dr. Paul interviewed by Chris Wallace on Fox and I thought it went well.
steyr_m
8th January 2012, 12:50 PM
The system is rigged. He's never going to make it.
Horn
8th January 2012, 01:04 PM
The system is rigged. He's never going to make it.
Reminds me of myself at the high school pep rally...
I was only really there to catch a glimpse of the cheerleaders. ;D
Half Sense
8th January 2012, 07:30 PM
He hasn't had much of a chance to share his vision. He is the only one talking about his plan to cut $1T the first year and balance the budget in 3 years. The MSM and other candidates won't bring it up because it does all this WITHOUT taking away entitlements - in fact his plan is the only way to SAVE the entitlement system long enough to gradually replace it with something sensible. His plan eliminates a bunch of useless, redundant, or downright evil Federal departments and agencies. A competing currency of tax-free gold and silver will start to force honesty in the money system.
Book
8th January 2012, 09:59 PM
The system is rigged. He's never going to make it.
http://abc.go.com/shows/dancing-with-the-stars/vote-faq
Exactly. More votes are cast each week for Dancing With The Stars contestants.
:o
joboo
8th January 2012, 10:18 PM
He needs to volunteer as a judge on dancing with the stars.
If idiocracy won't come to you, you need to become the idiocracy.
ehh...
steyr_m
9th January 2012, 07:04 AM
http://abc.go.com/shows/dancing-with-the-stars/vote-faq
Exactly. More votes are cast each week for Dancing With The Stars contestants.
:o
Agreed, that's why we're doomed. If the sheep haven't awaken by now, what in the f is going to get them angry and have them to grab their "pitch-forks"?
uncletonoose
9th January 2012, 07:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=n9uuCZNT8qQ#t=4s
mightymanx
9th January 2012, 11:37 AM
My friends just accused me of writing this:
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/86456/What_If__They__Are_Lying_to_Us_about_Ron_Paul_/
I take that as a complement.
Horn
9th January 2012, 12:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=n9uuCZNT8qQ#t=4s
Well this is good news EE, looks like a third place showing is having its effect.
Needs to exploit that military & intelligence support to a win.
gunDriller
9th January 2012, 02:11 PM
the secret the Zio-media can't bear to tell - the huge amount of support for Ron Paul from active military.
Awoke
11th January 2012, 10:55 AM
FYI, the campaign nets ZERO from any sales from the 'official campaign store', yet any money you spend at that 'store' goes against what you can contribute to the campaign. 100% of your money sent into the 'official campaign store' goes into the pocket of Mark Elam. http://www.crpolitics.com/html/our_staff.html
Elam is not a Goyim name.
DMac
11th January 2012, 12:10 PM
the secret the Zio-media can't bear to tell - the huge amount of support for Ron Paul from active military.
If he (RP) was a mainstreamer w/ the level of military support he has the election would be an absolute landslide.
Libertytree
11th January 2012, 12:31 PM
I think RP's military angles will be used extensively in SC.
It's plain to see that the voters especially in SC don't like negative campaigning, so the best thing is to eccentuate RP's positives w/ the military aspect #1 given SC's gung ho attitude and love for the military.
*Ron Paul served as flight surgeon...Romney didn't.
*Ron Paul has more active duty and veteran support than all the other candidates combined.
*Get the Veterans for Ron Paul 2012 involved and vocal
madfranks
11th January 2012, 12:44 PM
The system is rigged. He's never going to make it.
I agree that the system is rigged, and it certainly is a loooooooong shot, but even rigged games get beat a few times.
It happened before with the presidency of Andrew Jackson, against all odds what he was able to do.
JDRock
11th January 2012, 01:10 PM
The system is rigged. He's never going to make it.
this should cheer you up EE; even if he does win a crazy constitutionalist jew hating conspiracy believing skinhead, will shoot him dead, from several angles, simultaneously....the backlash will give the jews the open door to institute the internment camps!...the good news?...ummm...ummm...im working on that ill get back to you if i can find that bottle of blue pills....
Awoke
11th January 2012, 01:29 PM
Well let's all just remember what happened to Kennedy for shedding light on the Cabal, and he never even named and names.
Even if they didn't outright suicide Ron Paul, they could put on a life-destroying campaign that could end al la Bud Dwyer.
I don't mean to be constantly negative, I just know that we are dealing with satanists who have no moral boundaries and no regard for integrity or ethics. Ron doesn't stand a chance, even if he were to win the oval office. I believe that if they allowed him to win, it would be for the purposes of furthering their agenda, steering us towards division/revolution/civil war, which will end in the usual shift in property and power away from the many into the hands of the few.
Libertytree
11th January 2012, 01:33 PM
Well let's all just remember what happened to Kennedy for shedding light on the Cabal, and he never even named and names.
Even if they didn't outright suicide Ron Paul, they could put on a life-destroying campaign that could end al la Bud Dwyer.
I don't mean to be constantly negative, I just know that we are dealing with satanists who have no moral boundaries and no regard for integrity or ethics. Ron doesn't stand a chance, even if he were to win the oval office. I believe that if they allowed him to win, it would be for the purposes of furthering their agenda, steering us towards division/revolution/civil war, which will end in the usual shift in property and power away from the many into the hands of the few.
Then come what may... it's time to take a stand.
Awoke
11th January 2012, 01:34 PM
Agreed.
That's what we're prepped for.
NOOB
11th January 2012, 03:51 PM
EE, it's as simple as this, fuck the media who's against him, they will NEVER give him a fair shake, BUT we have to stay strong.
Here's what I suggest people. I've purchased two of these to put on either of my vehicles. People will see it and some might say who's Ron Paul or say yeah, Ron Paul. Humans are a funny lot, we tend to want to be in a group, ie my team, my this my that, my GROUP. The more they see RP supporters the more they'll say, "I'm NOT alone" and will want to be apart of that group. IMO.
http://c3244172.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/wpsc/product_images/RP-Magnet-Big-Blue.jpg
They're $15 a piece. For $30 bucks I donate to RP plus I become a rolling endorsement.
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/store/signs-and-magnets/ron-paul-2012-blue- (http://www.ronpaul2012.com/store/signs-and-magnets/ron-paul-2012-blue-car-magnets-18-x-12/)
car-magnets-18-x-12/ (http://www.ronpaul2012.com/store/signs-and-magnets/ron-paul-2012-blue-car-magnets-18-x-12/)
I have these on both sides of my vehicle and my wife's vehicle. Bumperstickers on the back also.
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