Fake 2011 Canadian Silver Maple Leafs

[ozcopper]

Here is a follow up to my fake ingot video:

Direct link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvgCAj_ywjw

In this video, I am showing some of the high quality fake 2011 Canadian Maple Leaf coins that are flooding the market place.

[mamboni]

Are you sure that coin is not silver?????????

[ozcopper]

Very sure, I paid $2 for it, I'll do another vid soon and chop it in half!

[mamboni]

Very sure, I paid $2 for it, I'll do another vid soon and chop it in half!

What are the exact weight and dimensions, specifically the thickness? That is a damn good fake, damn good.

[ozcopper]

The only test I have done is specific gravity. It came back at 11.00, it should be 10.5. It is a damn good fake, the best I've seen yet.

[madfranks]

I watched the video, what does the coin in question weigh? And I was flinching watching your filing technique; I was afraid you were going to hit yourself in the head! :o

[ximmy]

Everything has to be weighed now... I just got a scale and have been experimenting with it.

[AndreaGail]

damn this is getting scary

[ximmy]

BTW It sounds like Kitty requires some attention in the background...

[mamboni]

The only test I have done is specific gravity. It came back at 11.00, it should be 10.5. It is a damn good fake, the best I've seen yet.

There was a guy on GIM who swore he had a fake gold philharmonic. In the end, he concluded it was a 90% gold alloy fake, which I concluded is ridiculous. I think that was was totally genuine; the 10% variance was well within the imprecision of the density measurement. And who the hell would make a 90% gold fake - for the 10% skim? I don't think so.

[TomD]

Yeah, The Skeptic? That was a classic.

I ended up with the coin and tested the hell out of it compared to another Philharmonic and it was the same.

[madfranks]

Yeah, I remember the skeptic. I wish he was a member here, I was a fan of his. :)

[AndreaGail]

All this discussion reminded me of that long drawn out philharmonic thread on GIM. Glad everyone else remembered his name, that was driving me crazy trying to remember his name!!!

[StreetsOfGold]

If you look closely at the details, there is no doubt that China one is a fake. Just look at the leaf detail and look at the expression of ronald McDonald...er...I mean her majesty.

[BrewTech]

If you look closely at the details, there is no doubt that China one is a fake. Just look at the leaf detail and look at the expression of ronald McDonald...er...I mean her majesty.

I would like to see one of the fake Maples up close... I'm assuming they won't have the identifying grainy look that a real Maple has.

[undgrd]

Sound alone has to give that fake away right?

[TomD]

If you look closely at the details, there is no doubt that China one is a fake. Just look at the leaf detail and look at the expression of ronald McDonald...er...I mean her majesty.

You're right, the leaf details are cartoonish compared to real-------for now.

[mamboni]

Wang: What you laughing at?
Chung: Check out this Youtube video.
Wang: What he doing with file?
Chung: He file fake maple; but it not fake, LOL
Wang: That real? You sell him real maple for $2?
Chung: Yeah, for shits and giggles! LOL
Wang: He spend all his time trying to prove it fake.
Chung: Yeah, is'nt that funny.
Wang: But we lose money on coin!
Chung: Money well spent - free advertising!
Wang: OK?
Chung: This video go viral - everyone want to buy our 'fakes!' LOL
Wang: Oh...ah sooooo!!!!!!!
Chung: Sweeeeeeet!

[LastResort]

I think the sound produced when the coin is being filed is enough to make me think its fake.

Only a hard material makes that high pitched sound. I though silver was pretty soft.

I could be wrong though.

I always weigh and measure one of my coins when I get a bunch. This thread makes me want to do a 100% check though.

[SLV^GLD]

I'm not seeing it in the video or the stills. It looks like a light angle difference in the stills.

[AndreaGail]

If you look closely at the details, there is no doubt that China one is a fake. Just look at the leaf detail and look at the expression of ronald McDonald...er...I mean her majesty.

Nice catch, an obvious difference (but like you said...for now)

[madfranks]

I still want to know what the fake coin weighs. I use weight as my primary determinant of authenticy.