At a Romney Event Yesterday, I Was Removed and Arrested. I Still Don't Know Why.

[DMac]

This is a creepy story.

At a Romney Event Yesterday, I Was Removed and Arrested. I Still Don't Know Why. (http://mytechnologyworld9.blogspot.com/2012/01/at-romney-event-yesterday-i-was-removed.html)

intro, full story at link


I’d been in New Hampshire for the past several days to follow the campaign and see some of the candidates in-person. Yesterday morning, I was chatting up a Romney campaign staffer before an event at the Gilchrist Manufacturing Company in Hudson, NH, when a police officer approached. Sir, we have to ask you to leave the premises...

[vacuum]

I'm so tired of this crap.

[k-os]

This is a creepy story.

At a Romney Event Yesterday, I Was Removed and Arrested. I Still Don't Know Why. (http://mytechnologyworld9.blogspot.com/2012/01/at-romney-event-yesterday-i-was-removed.html)


That is a weird story.

[chad]

don't worry it's only going to get better. look what was introduced on monday. we're taking away your citizenship now, bitchez!

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-3166&tab=summary

[Horn]

http://cbsboston.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/arrest.jpg?w=300




HUDSON, N.H. (CBS) – One person was arrested at Mitt Romney’s campaign event at a business in Hudson Monday.

The owner of Gilchrist Metal Fabricating asked the man to leave and he refused.
Police stepped in and arrested him for trespassing.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/01/09/man-arrested-at-romney-campaign-event/

You can't go in old blue jeans to a Romney event...

[palani]

I see a lot of contract offers. The author didn't know how to properly present a couner-offer.

As the officers were working for both the city and the campaign there is certainly the opportunity to lien up both of them.

[iOWNme]

Someone should leave some comments on his blog to help him wake up.....He is 1/2 way there. Maybe even leave a GSUS forum invite.

[undgrd]

I see a lot of contract offers. The author didn't know how to properly present a couner-offer.

As the officers were working for both the city and the campaign there is certainly the opportunity to lien up both of them.

You don't really believe the police would engage you in this type of back and forth do you? I mean, do you think there's a chance in hell you won't be arrested when they tell you "leave or you're under arrest"?

[Libertytree]

What a bunch of fucking cockholsters! :mad:

Looks like the mitty crew is practicing flexing their might and the hell of it is it's just the tip of the iceberg if that assclown gets inside the WH, you ain't seen nothin' yet if that happens.

[sirgonzo420]

I haven't read the article, but if the property owner asked the guy to leave and he refused, then he was guilty of trespass.

[Awoke]

I haven't read the article, but if the property owner asked the guy to leave and he refused, then he was guilty of trespass.

That is not the case.

[sirgonzo420]

That is not the case.


But it's close...


I asked again to speak to someone from the campaign or the company who owned the plant. The officer refused; the company had delegated authority to the campaign, and the campaign had authorized the police to remove anyone the campaign didn’t want present. But wouldn’t it be simple for me to just talk to someone and explain the mistake? Too many people around, the cop said. Apparently it would be too big a bother. I either had to leave or face charges for criminal trespass.

The company allegedly gave permission to the campaign to keep out who they did not want there.

I don't like it either, but it's not unlawful.

Now, the dude COULD have gone back to the public street, and if he were unlawfully arrested there, he could have filed suit.

[Awoke]

I know. I agree with you.
Even though the owner, the campaign and the security force are three separate entities.

But I take issue with the whole "Don't go back to that area" bullshit. That's the fisrt thing I would have done, with witnesses.

[Libertytree]

The 1st "wrong" was committed by mitty's people as the guy had done nothing wrong to deserve such treatment, that irks me more than anything.

Having said that...Dudeman was a dufus, he should have said "fine, if that's the way you want it you'll not get my vote" and walked....straight over to the RP event and donated that $40 bail to the campaign that actually gives a fuck about his liberty. Sometimes good lessons are hard learned.

[Horn]

HUDSON, N.H. (CBS) – One person was arrested at Mitt Romney’s campaign event at a business in Hudson Monday.

The owner of Gilchrist Metal Fabricating asked the man to leave and he refused.
Police stepped in and arrested him for trespassing.

What you guys don't trust the news?

It must have been a red tie event.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVTPGgTB378&feature=related

[palani]

You don't really believe the police would engage you in this type of back and forth do you?
Either you don't believe in due process or believe that acting like a whipped dog will get a doggy biscuit as a special treat.




I mean, do you think there's a chance in hell you won't be arrested when they tell you "leave or you're under arrest"? I have heard a sheriff tell someone that they don't have to arrest anyone even if they see a crime committed in front of them. No. It is merely a contract offer. Ask to see a business card. If the guy had a share of publiclly traded stock he could ask them "How is it that you think you have the authority to throw me off my own property?"

[undgrd]

Either you don't believe in due process or believe that acting like a whipped dog will get a doggy biscuit as a special treat.



I have heard a sheriff tell someone that they don't have to arrest anyone even if they see a crime committed in front of them. No. It is merely a contract offer. Ask to see a business card. If the guy had a share of publiclly traded stock he could ask them "How is it that you think you have the authority to throw me off my own property?"

I wasn't speak with regard to the law. Toss it out the window. I'm speak with regard to what would ACTUALLY happen to you in this situation. Do you really believe the officer would debate you on whether or not to arrest you if you choose NOT to follow his commands?

[palani]

Do you really believe the officer would debate you on whether or not to arrest you if you choose NOT to follow his commands?
All commands are not lawful.

Do you believe in the Neuremberg defense (I was just following orders)?

If it is not a lawful order then it must be a commercial order. As you are up to your neck in commerce then tell him what the charges are going to be and proceed to execute his order. Be sure and send a bill afterwards because otherwise you might be charged with attempting to bribe an officer of the "law".

[Awoke]

....and then they taze you.

[palani]

....and then they taze you.
Geez Louise, when a coppiceman enters Dunkin' Donuts he isn't going to get good service if he tazes the waitress on a whim. What a way to put a damper on contract negotiations.

[Awoke]

They don't look at you as if you are their wage-paying employer, Palani. They look at you like you're a punching bag.

Fuck your rights <- Their attitude

We say "I didn't sign the paper"
They say "I thought he was reaching for a weapon"

EDIT to add that "Negotiations" have nothing to do with it. That's my point. If Negotiation had anything to do with it, they wouldn't had instructed this individual to stay off the publicly owned street in the area. It's out and out tyranny.

[palani]

They don't look at you as if you are their wage-paying employer, Palani. They look at you like you're a punching bag.
I don't consider these douche bags to be employees. If they were then they would be finding their job opportunities suddenly increased.


Fuck your rights <- Their attitude If you cannot make your rights stick then you have no rights. This means that you are in he middle of a DREAM! Time to wake up.


We say "I didn't sign the paper"
They say "I thought he was reaching for a weapon"
You literally have no control over anything (read this as communism) or anyone. You cannot expect protection. Protection however is the duty owed in exchange for allegiance. Without protection you are throwing your allegiance down the toilet. If this is what you had intended then you have achieved your goal. For myself, there has to be some protection demonstrated before I even consider offering allegiance. Consider me a free agent (or a principal).


"Negotiations" have nothing to do with it. That's my point. If Negotiation had anything to do with it, they wouldn't had instructed this individual to stay off the publicly owned street in the area. It's out and out tyranny. It is not so much about negotiations as it is about behavior. Government is to reward good behavior and punish bad behavior. It is not menioned in any law book I ever ran across but the behavior that is rewarded is called honor. You fall into dishonor by failing to negotiating in good faith, by turning down contract offers rather than providing a valid counter offer and then following through.

If they tell you to leave the area you might ask for a business card so that you know where to send the bill. But by all means take them up on their offer as long as it doesn't hurt too much and then be sure and ask for money. Do it through the mail. Do it from an address they won't find you at. If everyone did this and followed through there would be no problem. Right now there is a problem. It is obvious. The terrorists are in charge.

[PatColo]

(http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/59225-police-admit-romney-campaign-illegally-hired-them-to-arrest-us-citizens-on-bogus-charges-at-campaign-event)Police Admit Romney Campaign Illegally Hired them to Arrest US Citizens on Bogus Charges at Campaign Event (http://occupytvstations.com/news/18252)


Thursday, 12 January 2012 09:31



http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/January20124/romney_richie-rich2.jpg



'I asked about his authority to remove me. “We’re working for the Romney campaign,” he said. I asked if he was on-duty; he said he was. My confusion deepened. So was he working for the town of Hudson today, or for the campaign? “Both.” (Later, I think I got it straight: the campaign hired the police for the day, sort of like a private security detail.)'

Read more: Police Admit Romney Campaign Illegally Hired them to Arrest US Citizens on Bogus Charges at Campaign Event (http://occupytvstations.com/news/18252)

[Awoke]

The body of that text is an exerpt from the OP article, Patcolo. Just the title is different.

[PatColo]

^ ah sorry, frankly I didn't read the body of either article, just skimmed this thread yesterday & assumed my headline (grabbed from Icke's news page (http://www.davidicke.com/headlines)) was an update which folks following the story would like to know! :P

[Awoke]

No biggie. Just thought I would mention it.

[mick silver]

he just doing what his master told him to do