Some Ron Paul / Romney Thoughts

[JohnQPublic]

1. The MSM keeps spinning Romey's 37% as like McCain's 39% in 2008. There is a huge difference- NH knows Romney. HE LIVES IN NH. He owns a house there. He is also governor of the neighboring state (Mass.). McCain came from Arizona and got 39%. Much more significant. Not sure what it says about NH residents.

2. MSM spins Romney's win in Iowa AND NH as historic. See point 1. Romney owns a house in NH, so is a resident.

3. If the commentators are correct, and Europe collapses by March, this is an explanation for why the primaries were moved forward in time. This is so Romney can eek out a few wins (Iowa, NH, maybe SC, likely Florida), and thus scare Ron Paul out of the race. RON PAUL BETTER KNOW BETTER. If anyone understands the significance of the collapse scenario it is Ron Paul. All he needs do is survive until Europe does disintegrate, and all eyes will be on him.

4. Possible tickets: Paul president, picks his own VP; Romney/Paul, Paul/Huntsman.

5. The situation is very (VERY) fluid. All "conventional wisdom" is off. I don't care what trends were seen since 1980. We are outside of normal trends.

I find "conventional wisdom" to often be very conventional, and rarely wise. :)

John Q Public

[vacuum]

You make a very good point about europe collapsing and that giving more support to Ron Paul. I guess I wasn't thinking about that timetable.

[Libertytree]

I don't think mitty or anyone else ever thought for a moment that RP would ever drop out and certainly not that early.

I'm really not following your line of thinking that mitty could or would ever consider ever being RP's VP. Ron has to choose a VP that will carry on as he would if anything should happen to him, that's kinda like an insurance policy. If mitty was VP and something did happen, everything that was ever gained he would reverse in NY second.

I also don't think RP will be making any deals for himself or Rand in a VP capacity, nor will he endorse anyone in the Rep party and he knows where we stand, RON PAUL or NO ONE.

[Cebu_4_2]

But I sure do wonder who he has picked. When do they announce that info?

[JohnQPublic]

I don't think mitty or anyone else ever thought for a moment that RP would ever drop out and certainly not that early.

I'm really not following your line of thinking that mitty could or would ever consider ever being RP's VP. Ron has to choose a VP that will carry on as he would if anything should happen to him, that's kinda like an insurance policy. If mitty was VP and something did happen, everything that was ever gained he would reverse in NY second.

I also don't think RP will be making any deals for himself or Rand in a VP capacity, nor will he endorse anyone in the Rep party and he knows where we stand, RON PAUL or NO ONE.

I was proposing Mitty/Paul, not Paul/Mitty. Paul may not go far that.

Reagen did not want Bush Sr. as VP, but ended up taking him to gain the nomination.

As far as Paul dropping out, I was proposing that the Republican Party moved up the primaries in time (and changed some rules, which may have been deal making to move up the timetable) to be sure that it appeared that Mitty had the nomination before Europe collapses. Mitty may have had some say in this, I do not know, but I see it more as party hacks maneuvering. I see Paul as at least part of the reason they want to create the appearance of a solid win for Mitty before the collapse.

[Book]

2nd Place Paul goes third party and siphons off enough GOP voters to hand Obama his reelection.

No way can he just go away quietly or support Mitt.

[JohnQPublic]

But I sure do wonder who he has picked. When do they announce that info?

I am thinking this happens after he gets the nomination, but I am not sure.

[JohnQPublic]

2nd Place Paul goes third party and siphons off enough GOP voters to hand Obama his reelection.


His campaign disagrees (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?57979-Awesome-Doug-Wead-Interview-On-Fox-Day-After-Ron-Paul-2nd-Place-Finish&p=506367&viewfull=1#post506367) (see ~2:30)

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

He has stated that he won't run as an independent, but in the same breath, stated that he "Doesn't like to say he will 'never' do a particular thing."

[JohnQPublic]

He has stated that he won't run as an independent, but in the same breath, stated that he "Doesn't like to say he will 'never' do a particular thing."


2067

[Horn]

It has the power to ignite a 2nd revolution against oversea interests.

[horseshoe3]

2nd Place Paul goes third party and siphons off enough GOP voters to hand Obama his reelection.

No way can he just go away quietly or support Mitt.

If he runs third party, I think he can draw as many people away from Obama as he takes from Mitty. There are a lot of pacifists who don't like much about the Democrats, but they support them solely because of their anti-war rhetoric.

[BrewTech]

If he runs third party, I think he can draw as many people away from Obama as he takes from Mitty. There are a lot of pacifists who don't like much about the Democrats, but they support them solely because of their anti-war rhetoric.

And rhetoric is exactly what it is, every time.

[hoarder]

You guys keep forgetting that the majority of states now have electronic voting machines. Smoking hopium is a waste of time.

"The people who cast votes decide nothing. The people who count votes decide everything."
-- Josef Stalin

[Horn]

You guys keep forgetting that the majority of states now have electronic voting machines. Smoking hopium is a waste of time.

"The people who cast votes decide nothing. The people who count votes decide everything."
-- Josef Stalin

Still wondering how 4 years of Ron Paul's platform doesn't fit into the inevitable for the U.S.

[gunDriller]

But I sure do wonder who he has picked. When do they announce that info?

good question. who has Ron Paul's independence & can help him take the White House IF he gets the nomination ?

one of the few i can think of - in terms of independence - is Cynthia McKinney.

but she's a Dem & i don't know if she would help him win the White House.

and Wellstone's dead.

[Libertytree]

Still wondering how 4 years of Ron Paul's platform doesn't fit into the inevitable for the U.S.

Perhaps no one can stop the inevitable? But at least w/ an RP presidency the police state will not be able to move full force forward and we will be returned our civil liberties that have been stolen. I also believe that he would have a calming effect in times of anxiety, especially when it comes to monetary matters.

[Libertytree]

good question. who has Ron Paul's independence & can help him take the White House IF he gets the nomination ?

one of the few i can think of - in terms of independence - is Cynthia McKinney.

but she's a Dem & i don't know if she would help him win the White House.

and Wellstone's dead.

I swear I think he has to have someone with as much backbone or more than he has, if for no other reason to make the evil SOB's think twice about offing him. Granted it needs to be someone with clout, so why not a former high ranking judge with national notariety? Judge Andrew Napalitano! Well, at least that's my pick.

[Horn]

Perhaps no one can stop the inevitable?

Was referencing the current police state & global bank collapse we're currently living under, as inevitably unsustainable.

[jimswift]

I also believe that he would have a calming effect in times of anxiety, especially when it comes to monetary matters.

With him being POTUS he would have a lot of TV time at his disposal, and when he is allowed to convey his positions and speak as he wishes, he can hardly be beat when it comes to making sense of things.

So a broadcast of him explaining what is going to happen should have that calming effect, particularly when you can trust he is gonna tell you the truth.

[Hatha Sunahara]

RP keeps saying that he's dangerous to the status quo. He's a monkey wrench in their agenda. I don't think they will allow him to take power no matter how much support he has.

Whatever they do to him to prevent him from becoming president will wake up a lot of people. I read somewhere that if 10% of the population believes something strongly, that view will prevail. RP just needs to survive to win.


Hatha

[Libertytree]

An idea whos time has come cannot be stopped.

[mick silver]

mitts vp will be rand paul if ron paul pull out of the race

[gunDriller]

But I sure do wonder who he has picked. When do they announce that info?

i think we just saw the candidate step forward.

by returning $500,000 of his $3 Million Senate budget to the US gov., Senator Rand Paul has just made a SOLID case about why he'd make a good Vice Presidential candidate.

[Libertytree]

i think we just saw the candidate step forward.

by returning $500,000 of his $3 Million Senate budget to the US gov., Senator Rand Paul has just made a SOLID case about why he'd make a good Vice Presidential candidate.

Not that I don't like Rand, I do, but he is just a freshman senator and he's RP's son, wouldn't that come across as nepotistic?

[JohnQPublic]

Not that I don't like Rand, I do, but he is just a freshman senator and he's RP's son, wouldn't that come across as nepotistic?

Only works in the Bush family (and the Roosevelt).