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Sparky
12th January 2012, 11:31 PM
We've been talking about sheeple at GIM/GSUS for years now. I gotta tell you, I see noticeable evidence that people are waking up. Five years ago, it seemed like 1 in 50 or 100 had a clue. Now it seems like 1 in 5 or 10, at least around these parts. The awareness level is greatly heightening. The politicians still have a stronghold, and there are likely some crisis moments ahead, but I think people are becoming quicker to recognize things for what they are, though they may not yet understand how to stop it, or prepare for it.
I've had many discussions with people who are dropping their partisan allegiance, and they know something is afoul. A close friend (liberal/democrat tendencies) recently mentioned he's lost trust in both sides and now recognizes that the government is squandering his tax money rather than using it to help society as he used to expect. He's starting to think that government perpetuates war. He mentioned he's concerned about his retirement money, and wonders if perhaps there is something to this idea of actually buying "gold rocks". He never would have said any of this five years ago.
Is anybody else noticing the tide turning?
Ponce
12th January 2012, 11:38 PM
Most will pay the price by not having the money to get ready.......but all that you really need is a gun and a bullet to take what someone else has........and that's what you call a real survivalist........you can I?, we are only preppers.
Sparky
12th January 2012, 11:44 PM
I think the first baby step, even before you've bought your first extra roll of toilet paper or can of soup, is awareness.
People who are less prepared, but are aware, can at least be an asset to those who are prepared, rather than a hindrance. It will be easier to help your loved ones if they are aware and cooperative, rather than resistant and disruptive.
PatColo
13th January 2012, 04:13 AM
I couldn't decide whether, or where, to post this G4T spiel- this thread'll do! :) G4T's stuff (http://www.youtube.com/user/george4title) ranges from interesting to dumb, anyways here's from a couple days ago,
How to Have An Intimate Relationship With A Non-Truther
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8oKtteBDvA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8oKtteBDvA
Libertytree
13th January 2012, 07:51 AM
One needs to look no further for evidence of people getting a clue by comparing Ron Pauls vote totals from 08 to now.
MNeagle
13th January 2012, 08:14 AM
PC: your vid reminded me of this one!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BxckAMaTDc
DMac
13th January 2012, 08:22 AM
We've been talking about sheeple at GIM/GSUS for years now. I gotta tell you, I see noticeable evidence that people are waking up. Five years ago, it seemed like 1 in 50 or 100 had a clue. Now it seems like 1 in 5 or 10, at least around these parts. The awareness level is greatly heightening. The politicians still have a stronghold, and there are likely some crisis moments ahead, but I think people are becoming quicker to recognize things for what they are, though they may not yet understand how to stop it, or prepare for it.
I've had many discussions with people who are dropping their partisan allegiance, and they know something is afoul. A close friend (liberal/democrat tendencies) recently mentioned he's lost trust in both sides and now recognizes that the government is squandering his tax money rather than using it to help society as he used to expect. He's starting to think that government perpetuates war. He mentioned he's concerned about his retirement money, and wonders if perhaps there is something to this idea of actually buying "gold rocks". He never would have said any of this five years ago.
Is anybody else noticing the tide turning?
Yes, I have noticed it. Several friends of friends that, when I met them say 2-3 years ago, were Obama supporters/voters have begun asking me about Ron Paul. A couple others that were on the fence about Paul several years ago now fully support him.
I'm very thankful I listened to hoarder when I've, at times, begun to lose hope. His posts suggesting, "keep planting seeds", is wise advice indeed.
I have been seeing some fruit coming from those seeds planted firmly and steadily over the past several years.
My dad is possibly my biggest convert. From an adamant "911 is not an inside job!" Fox news style conservative, he now wants to know "what did Israel do regarding 911", claims "there is no way the official story explains WTC7!" and pushes other family members to buy gold.
Keep planting seeds folks. It's worth it, even if you can't see the sprouts yet.
hoarder
13th January 2012, 08:32 AM
"When 10 percent of the goyim know, the game is over"
That's what they are most afraid of....more so than a revolution. I just keep planting seeds, usually without mentioning the dreaded "J" word. The masses need a foundation of the obvious, which is our duty to point out, before they can connect the dots.
They eventually come to you and acknowledge that the obvious is what it is and will ask you your opinion on other matters.
When the level reaches 10%, they will have to kill us or go on the defensive and back up from their current position.
BrewTech
13th January 2012, 08:36 AM
The masses need a foundation of the obvious, which is our duty to point out, before they can connect the dots.
^^^^ Exactly this. You can attempt to shove our conclusions (the result of years of careful observation and study) down their throat, but without the proper context they will just puke it back up again.
Libertytree
13th January 2012, 08:36 AM
"When 10 percent of the goyim know, the game is over"
That's what they are most afraid of....more so than a revolution. I just keep planting seeds, usually without mentioning the dreaded "J" word. The masses need a foundation of the obvious, which is our duty to point out, before they can connect the dots.
When the level reaches 10%, they will have to kill us or go on the defensive and back up from their current position.
I'm curious...if 10% is the goal, where do you think we're at now? Is 10% the tipping point?
DMac
13th January 2012, 08:37 AM
"When 10 percent of the goyim know, the game is over"
That's what they are most afraid of....more so than a revolution. I just keep planting seeds, usually without mentioning the dreaded "J" word. The masses need a foundation of the obvious, which is our duty to point out, before they can connect the dots.
They eventually come to you and acknowledge that the obvious is what it is and will ask you your opinion on other matters.
When the level reaches 10%, they will have to kill us or go on the defensive and back up from their current position.
(I like to modify the original quote)
"Never underestimate the ability of a small group of highly motivated people that want to change the world - in fact, it is the only thing that ever has."
SLV^GLD
13th January 2012, 08:51 AM
I think the first baby step, even before you've bought your first extra roll of toilet paper or can of soup, is awareness.
People who are less prepared, but are aware, can at least be an asset to those who are prepared, rather than a hindrance. It will be easier to help your loved ones if they are aware and cooperative, rather than resistant and disruptive.
You nailed it. And even before prepping you need a second step; Acceptance.
Awareness, Acceptance, THEN Action.
I made the mistake of jumping from Awareness to Action. I was prepping for every possible scenario. It made me crazy and it made people around me crazy. Then I worked on some acceptance. Accepting that I cannot foresee the future, that the future isn't really my business, that my business is in the here and now. Suddenly my Action appeared to be the irrational, crazy REaction it really was, hell I had no idea if I'd even make it past today. Now when I buy a prep it is something I want and can use today. It may serve me well in the future but it will serve me today. If I buy PMs it works as a protection of purchasing power but it is also something I want to have not feel compelled to have.
Anyway, I 'm rambling and could continue to do so. I just wanted to say Awareness 1st, Acceptance Next then Action (if any).
Old Herb Lady
13th January 2012, 08:51 AM
In my line of work (natural healing) it usually starts out with people telling me how their doctor is trying to kill them or he's not listening to me,
or he's not helping me, etc.
Then I get in their brain about big pharma, FDA, monsanto, etc and then that can lead into all the other aspects of TPTB taking over .
Lots of people are way more aware now than ever. Occasionally the ones that I try to explain things to who DO NOT listen whatsoever are usually the ones who
work within the system who will not, can not accept anything that I say because it is to painful too hear.
(for example, I've had several nurses , pharm reps, and a doctor or 2 resent my opinions) In real life , not online.
I send massive emails out about Ron Paul. ( I basically SPAM everyone I know with it !!!! )
I put out a note.....if you want removed from my contact list.......
please let me know.....or else you will continue to get
my opinions, articles, etc. No one has stopped me yet ? )
Anyhoo, Everyone can relate to even just one thing and that gets their wheels turning in their brain
and when they get the Aha ! moment, I feel blessed beyond belief !! Anutter one starting to see the light............
and then the questions come. How could you not love waking people up.
So fun in a fcked up way !
SLV^GLD
13th January 2012, 08:53 AM
Keep planting seeds folks. It's worth it, even if you can't see the sprouts yet.
Correct, every beautiful garden started out as a spread of manure with seeds in it.
hoarder
13th January 2012, 09:22 AM
I'm curious...if 10% is the goal, where do you think we're at now? Is 10% the tipping point?The number is not precise because the level of awareness is not clearly defined. Most are capable of some level of awareness and stop there. Our job is to help them reach whatever level they are capable of.
Old Herb Lady
13th January 2012, 09:31 AM
The number is not precise because the level of awareness is not clearly defined. Most are capable of some level of awareness and stop there. Our job is to help them reach whatever level they are capable of.
You know what, if their was ever such as a thing as a "SHTF psychologist" (NOT a regular TPTB psychologist) , Mr Hoarder is apparantly the one to go to !
Cuz when this sheyit is driving u crazy he helps to make more sense of it !
Hatha Sunahara
13th January 2012, 09:46 AM
"When 10 percent of the goyim know, the game is over"
That's what they are most afraid of....more so than a revolution. I just keep planting seeds, usually without mentioning the dreaded "J" word. The masses need a foundation of the obvious, which is our duty to point out, before they can connect the dots.
They eventually come to you and acknowledge that the obvious is what it is and will ask you your opinion on other matters.
When the level reaches 10%, they will have to kill us or go on the defensive and back up from their current position.
Here's something to support the 10% tipping point for awareness:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110725190044.htm
I've been planting seeds in the manure for almost a decade now.
I know there is an awakening going on. Just this last weekend, I saw a fellow I used to work with who thought I was on the fringe, and he asked me the best way to own gold. He was thinking of buying shares in a gold ETF. I parroted Ponce's mantra to him--If you don't hold it, you don't own it. That made my day. Pretty soon everybody will be on the fringe--just like me.
Hatha
k-os
13th January 2012, 09:49 AM
I have noticed people waking up, too. It seems that Obama's failures have done more for our side of the fight than anything. So many former Obama supporters have completely lost faith in the two party system, recently. Interestingly, the Republicans I know are the most steadfast in their left/right thinking.
I am hearing "Monsanto" in conversations with my friends . . . who I never expected to consider such things. My family and friends have been getting more and more interested in precious metals and food storage. Several of my friends have started gardens, and one is really interested in aquaculture.
911 is still a taboo subject. I just tell people to look up building 7. It seems like the best place to get a big "WTF?" and spark interest to investigate further.
Hatha Sunahara
13th January 2012, 09:59 AM
Here's a hopeful piece from Strike the Root: (Voluntarism is a form of anarchism)
http://www.strike-the-root.com/crossing-10-rubicon
Crossing the 10% Rubicon
Column by Alex R. Knight III.
posted on January 09, 2012
A very recent article (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110725190044.htm) published in Science Daily reveals the findings of a study that has yielded some very positive information for the Voluntaryist movement. In short, that once an ideology or set of beliefs is fervently held by ten percent of any given group or population, it invariably becomes the predominant philosophy throughout the entirety. Any less than this, and things remain more or less static amongst the adherants. Cross the ten percent Rubicon, as it were, and the movement begins to spread hither and yon like wildfire.
Given that the current American population is a rough 312 million persons, this would mean that around 31 million would need to be hardcore zero-government advocates before widespread change becomes feasable. Thirty-two million die-hard anarchists would tip the scales irreversibly. At that point, we’d be cooking with gas. Government would be on the chopping block, awaiting execution.
It would help to know just what percentage of American residents are already Voluntaryists. I don’t know if any reliable studies along these lines have been conducted, but my guess would be that, at very best, we might currently number around one percent. Far more numerous, at present, are the minarchists: Constitutionalists, and other advocates of “limited” government as opposed to none at all. The irony is that the minarchist goal is absolutely unachievable – even given the 10% rule. Should small-scale government ever return to America, it will promptly revert back to what it is now, and worse. Minarchism necessitates that its adherents win every election, indefinitely hold every office, vote correctly on every issue, never make mistakes, never become corrupted, never retire, never die. More likely is it that the Man in the Moon will descend from his lunar home and endow us all with the powers of Superman. It is completely preposterous, and for this reason alone, will never happen.
The elimination of government altogether, however, is entirely possible – and in fact, I will say, inevitable. For it does not rely upon the imposition of violence in order to survive, but rather, only on pre-existing natural forces that are at present suppressed by the inherently aggressive presence of government – and in an absence of which, will flourish.
Take as an example one of the prime elements of libertarian thought, that of private property ownership. It is all well and fine, let’s say, that I own the computer I’m using to write this essay. Probably no one reading this would disagree with that assertion. But what happens if you want proof of my statement? How is it possible for me to provide that? I might be able to show you a sales receipt – assuming I haven’t discarded it – but those can easily be forged or falsified. You might seek out some eyewitnesses or other parties to the sale, but there again the evidence is largely circumstantial if not in fact out-and-out hearsay. You still can’t know to a certainty that I haven’t stolen, or otherwise illegitimately acquired this computer – or at least the temporary use of it. After all, I could be typing this from inside an unoccupied dwelling . . . or one in which I have terminated the occupants.
Before I begin to turn this into some kind of bizarre murder mystery, one point begins to come clear: There really is no way I or you can establish ownership of anything except in one of two ways. Either we extend ownership of personal property to each other by way of mutual consent, or we establish ownership by means of brute force. And it is because of our subconscious or implicit denial of the second means that most of us most of the time opt for the first choice. True, disputes will and do arise from time to time, whereupon we generally, where and when possible, seek non-violent mediation or arbitration of such disagreements. Government provides us only its courts, which are always biased when any case involves that which bureaucrats arrogantly lay claim to, and are only sometimes honest when the dispute in question does not. Either way, courts are financed by taxation, which means extorting money from people by violent force.
As well, there will always be, government or no government, a minority of unscrupulous individuals who will always disregard the sanctity of such unspoken social arrangements as ownership in the name of their own personal gain. Alas, we live in a less than perfect world, or essays such as this would not be necessary. I would only add that there exists a centralized monopoly of thugs who draw their pay from stolen cash who constantly exhibit just such an attitude, and generally act with total impunity. Three guesses as to just what they call themselves, and the first two don’t count. But I’ll even give you a hint: the first letter starts with “G.”
My overarching point here is that a social construct such as ownership of property is already an anarchistic enterprise. It exists in spite of government, and certainly not because of it. In short, if anarchy works in the vast majority of cases in an area as vast and all-important as property ownership, there remains little relevant excuse as to why it can’t work in all other areas of human life.
We Voluntaryists may now only exist in the static numbers I referred to above (though those numbers, thanks in large part to the Internet and alternative media, are larger than ever before and growing), but the mechanism for passing that 10% goalpost is within our grasp, and it’s called The Truth. In other words, we can do this. It will happen.
The only remaining question is: When? That depends on how badly you want it. I’d say it’s time to get busy.
EE_
13th January 2012, 10:03 AM
I have noticed people waking up, too. It seems that Obama's failures have done more for our side of the fight than anything. So many former Obama supporters have completely lost faith in the two party system, recently. Interestingly, the Republicans I know are the most steadfast in their left/right thinking.
I am hearing "Monsanto" in conversations with my friends . . . who I never expected to consider such things. My family and friends have been getting more and more interested in precious metals and food storage. Several of my friends have started gardens, and one is really interested in aquaculture.
911 is still a taboo subject. I just tell people to look up building 7. It seems like the best place to get a big "WTF?" and spark interest to investigate further.
I always liked using the building 7 arguement when I ran into people that claimed to have expert knowledge of 9/11.
It shut them up every time. That was before most people knew a third building went down.
k-os
13th January 2012, 10:06 AM
I always liked using the building 7 arguement when I ran into people that claimed to have expert knowledge of 9/11.
It shut them up every time. That was before most people knew a third building went down.
I still don't think most people know a third building went down.
dys
13th January 2012, 10:59 AM
The new dialectic that everybody seems to be falling for is socialist/libertarian. A lot more people are correctly identifying some of the problems, but too many are misidentifying the solutions.
As far as I can figure out, the dialectic works like this (what they are saying, not what I am saying):
Socialist:
Government solutions are necessary and they work because there is no profit motive to account for. Government solutions mean that workers will be protected and paid a living wage. Government solutions will end the problems of corporate welfare, corporate greed, and corporate malfeasance. Security is the buzzword.
Libertarian:
Government is inefficient and untrustworthy. Remove the government inefficiencies and you solve the problem. Entitlements need to be eliminated and people need to be held accountable. Besides, we can't afford them anymore. Buzzwords: realistic, accountable.
Of course, the real issues are never addressed in this dialectic. The never ending wars, the limited liabilities and all of their accountablity circumvention techniques, usury, the prison industrial complex, the medical industrial complex, legalized bribery in the form of campaign contributions, parasites like banks and insurance companies, etc (many others).
dys
Sparky
13th January 2012, 11:05 AM
...
A very recent article (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110725190044.htm) published in Science Daily reveals the findings of a study that has yielded some very positive information for the Voluntaryist movement. In short, that once an ideology or set of beliefs is fervently held by ten percent of any given group or population, it invariably becomes the predominant philosophy throughout the entirety. Any less than this, and things remain more or less static amongst the adherants. Cross the ten percent Rubicon, as it were, and the movement begins to spread hither and yon like wildfire.
...
Interesting analysis. More support that we are in the early stages of a historic decade.
TheNocturnalEgyptian
13th January 2012, 12:10 PM
Not a lot to say, except that I think people are waking up. I'm seeing it around me.
Silver Rocket Bitches!
13th January 2012, 12:31 PM
I attribute Obama's presidency to a lot of the disillusionment we are seeing today. Our society has been conditioned since WW2 that any sort of financial crisis won't last longer than a few months. Seeing our problems exacerbated under a new president who was supposed to be the savior of the economy has led to people questioning this paradigm and looking for answers to questions they never knew to ask before.
Horn
13th January 2012, 12:43 PM
Recently most all are realizing that the world is run by private interests, not the government.
The common response is to do what's in their own private interest.
PatColo
13th January 2012, 10:54 PM
I always liked using the building 7 arguement when I ran into people that claimed to have expert knowledge of 9/11.
It shut them up every time. That was before most people knew a third building went down.
This is a handy little doohickey, can post to messagboards, will animate in emails etc, just copy/paste:
The Strange, Free-Fall-Speed
Collapse "Due To Fire" Of
http://noliesradio.org/images/wtc7small.gif
World Trade Center Building 7 (http://architects-engineers.org/)
or alternatively,
Architects & Engineers: (http://architects-engineers.org/)
http://noliesradio.org/images/wtc7small.gif
Solving the Mystery of
World Trade Center Building 7 (http://architects-engineers.org/)
if they click it- it goes to ae911truth.org's page: http://architects-engineers.org which then auto-plays their 15 minute mini-documentary just released a few months ago around 9/11/11,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw
PatColo
13th January 2012, 11:01 PM
^ then you can comment something like, "you know, I'm thinking about converting to Judaism! (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?23130-The-quot-Israel-did-9-11-quot-Thread&p=504099&viewfull=1#post504099)" :D:o
joboo
14th January 2012, 03:35 AM
http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/obamahotair.jpg
osoab
14th January 2012, 07:09 AM
Recently most all are realizing that the world is run by private interests, not the government.
The common response is to do what's in their own private interest.
The common response is more government to stop the evil corporations. They don't realize that .gov is a tool of the private interests they rail about.
Tumbleweed
14th January 2012, 07:45 AM
I've had people inquire about ordering guns and ammo online. I have passed out some catalogues I get from some of them and told them places they can order cheap ammo. I've also told them how to go about getting guns shipped to a licensed dealer and paying the transfer fee. All were surprised at how easy it can be. They are also surprised at the lower prices for guns and ammo for the foreign made stuff. All are worried about the economy and the possibilty of having to defend themselves and their family.
Spectrism
14th January 2012, 08:45 AM
Normally, I see people only awakening to their own troubles. They need to take the next step- putting the pieces together to figure out who is ripping them.
I was looking at ammo in Walmart during a fairly quiet time. The worker came over- young kid.... and we got talking. He never heard of Ron Paul, but when we got thru, he wrote down Ron Paul's name. The commoners are only fed puke food from the lamestream media.
Horn
15th January 2012, 12:53 PM
The common response is more government to stop the evil corporations. They don't realize that .gov is a tool of the private interests they rail about.
Is like adding more water, too water soup.
the evidence that .gov cannot deliver on anything is all too obvious & plentiful,
When speaking with a redcoat never forget your main ammo source..
hoarder
15th January 2012, 01:41 PM
Normally, I see people only awakening to their own troubles. They need to take the next step- putting the pieces together to figure out who is ripping them.Good point. Before we speak to awaken them, we should listen to their troubles and frame the discusssion in terms of their specific troubles.
Serpo
16th January 2012, 02:10 AM
One reason people seem to be waking up now is that it is so blatant it is getting difficult to miss ,unless of course you are in a deep coma.
Golden
19th January 2012, 07:02 AM
The Truth about Ron Paul.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFw1BNDOKkM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFw1BNDOKkM
Uploaded by MagicWisard on Jan 2, 2012
The simple truth about our nation.
dys
19th January 2012, 07:55 AM
My experience is that any type of beneficial awakening begets consequence. Have you ever tried to educate someone on something, and they don't believe it...but you see that flash of fear in their eyes? There is something inside of them that is saying what if he/she is actually right? Awakening to anything important usually has the unfortunate side effect of effecting one's fellowship with other people in a negative way.
dys
DMac
19th January 2012, 08:23 AM
My experience is that any type of beneficial awakening begets consequence. Have you ever tried to educate someone on something, and they don't believe it...but you see that flash of fear in their eyes? There is something inside of them that is saying what if he/she is actually right? Awakening to anything important usually has the unfortunate side effect of effecting one's fellowship with other people in a negative way.
dys
I had one such argument this weekend at a dinner party. Friendly, but nonetheless, a true clash in opposite polarity. A married man, not dumb and a decent person, believes wholly that no one should be allowed to own a firearm.
You can imagine the fire that lights in my eyes when faced with such ignorance. Conversely, there was the edge of fear in his eyes that one of his cherished delusions just might be wrong - and if so, what else has he been wrong about? We didn't belabor the point as to not have politics pushed into the greater conversation, but the seed was planted.
LastResort
19th January 2012, 08:42 AM
I know its been mentioned here before, but I am really getting the vibe from people that they know something isn't right. Its too bad most of them are too lackadaisical to do a tiny bit of research and get to the bottom of whats not right. To top that off soon they won't be able to do a simple internet search on government dirt if this sopa bill passes. The number of times recently I've heard " I don't know who to believe anymore" is staggering.
dys
19th January 2012, 08:56 AM
I know its been mentioned here before, but I am really getting the vibe from people that they know something isn't right. Its too bad most of them are too lackadaisical to do a tiny bit of research and get to the bottom of whats not right. To top that off soon they won't be able to do a simple internet search on government dirt if this sopa bill passes. The number of times recently I've heard " I don't know who to believe anymore" is staggering.
Yes. There is a vacuum forming where there were previously iron clad beliefs in most people. But you can bet your bippy that people like us are going to be unable to fill that void. Only those with perceived authority can fill that void, and most of us don't have it.
dys
SLV^GLD
20th January 2012, 09:26 AM
Yes. There is a vacuum forming where there were previously iron clad beliefs in most people. But you can bet your bippy that people like us are going to be unable to fill that void. Only those with perceived authority can fill that void, and most of us don't have it.
dys
Precisely why I place my authority outside of any man.
Buddha
20th January 2012, 10:00 AM
Yes, I have noticed some awakening among the masses. The problem is, as others have said, is that they only seem to be waking up to very certain things within their sphere of interest. People who travel see that civil liberties are being destroyed, people interested in finance see that the banking system is a scam, people with serious illnesses are aware that the medical industrial complex is scewing them for profit and making them sicker, etc. Most of these people fail to go further however, and are all over the place in their thinking as to why these things are going on. It frustrates me to no end because almost everything is literally at their finger tips, but they just don't care enough or are too ingorant to dig deeper. The only reason why they are begining to wake up is because it's becoming outrageously blatant. I mean does it really take someone in a uniform grabbing your child's penis at the airport to get the point across? I guess so.
Any level of awareness is good though, and they are taking baby steps. Some speak of a mass consciousness shift at the end of 2012 and I agree with this. It's seems as though it will happen one way or another, as some form of societal collapse will happen one way or another.
gunDriller
20th January 2012, 10:16 AM
I mean does it really take someone in a uniform grabbing your child's penis at the airport to get the point across? I guess so.
venturing into the greater realization - realizing the extent & source (largely, Talmudic Jews) of the corruption in American business & government - is very stressful for most humans.
to make the jump from the notion that the corruption is localized - so that it can be fixed more easily - to realizing the depth & breadth of the corruption - that's a big jump.
on the other hand, most people have witnessed local corruption, and they have witnessed systemic corruption - e.g. 9-11.
it is less stressful for some raised/indoctrinated into American education to continue believing that the corruption is not systemic, not related to Jews.
i wonder if for some - G-S.us members, for example - it works out to be less stressful to acknowledge the systemic deep, broad corruption. the realizations that got us there may be as pleasant as being skinned alive. but once we're there - it's hard to go back.
i think part of the switch is related to how much of our identity we draw from the American GroupThink, where conspiracy theories are a target of derision. once you are perceiving clearly in the Land of Conspiracy Fact, well, Hell's Bells, that's way better than eating the Cheerio's of Group Delusion that is consumed so widely in America. especially on the subject of Israel.
dys
20th January 2012, 11:00 AM
Most people believe that it's not possible for large amounts of people to be fooled at the same time. They think 'this conspiracy couldn't possibly be this big because it's not possible for so many people to be fooled'. They also believe that the conspiracy couldn't possibly be as old as it is, or someone would have discovered it by now.
dys
Sparky
20th January 2012, 11:36 AM
I think it's a good point made here that we may be seeing some "localized" awakening at first, where people only see what's impacting them directly. But I also think a "merging" of this sentiment is occurring, and will continue.
One example of a more "broad" awakening is the cynicism about partisan politics. I see a lot more people coming to the conclusion that both parties are at fault, so that party allegiance is going away. That's a good thing. Here in Massachusetts, which as you all know is a super-blue state, more than half of all voters are registered as "unenrolled" in either party, i.e. the so-called "Independents". The real partisan component of Massachusetts is the entrenched ruling political class, which survives by catering to the larger cities and to academia, since we have such a broad college and university system. Most of the "regular" people here aren't nearly as liberal as our reputation, and that's where I see an awakening going on.
milehi
20th January 2012, 12:25 PM
I just wrote a book, that disapeared. Sigh...
Two weeks ago, I was invited to a nieghborhood potluck where nieghborhood preps and self sustainablity were discussed. Prep and first aid lists were handed out, plans were made. The nieghbor with the biggest house offered up his pad as the go to house. It was made clear to all who attended that you were either in or out.
They talked about different tiers of emergency. Government collapse, solar flares and cataclsmic occurences.
I've lived here for quite a while and figured these people to be sheep. I kept my cards very close to my chest. Ther's another meeting in a couple of weeks, and I'll have moved 15 minutes away by then, but I'm going to go.
gunDriller
20th January 2012, 02:18 PM
I just wrote a book, that disapeared. Sigh...
did the web page crash after you had typed out everything ?
i've had that happen several times today. i finally gave up on this Firefox install and went to another browser.
JDRock
20th January 2012, 04:58 PM
I just wrote a book, that disapeared. Sigh...
Two weeks ago, I was invited to a nieghborhood potluck where nieghborhood preps and self sustainablity were discussed. Prep and first aid lists were handed out, plans were made. The nieghbor with the biggest house offered up his pad as the go to house. It was made clear to all who attended that you were either in or out.
They talked about different tiers of emergency. Government collapse, solar flares and cataclsmic occurences.
I've lived here for quite a while and figured these people to be sheep. I kept my cards very close to my chest. Ther's another meeting in a couple of weeks, and I'll have moved 15 minutes away by then, but I'm going to go.
dang thats good! where abouts do u live? im guessing denver-mile hi anyway its good to hear.
SLV^GLD
25th January 2012, 06:37 AM
They also believe that the conspiracy couldn't possibly be as old as it is, or someone would have discovered it by now.
dys
True, and it has been discovered and publicly outed. Those folks were hung on crosses or demonized for all of history. Some of history's most infamous characters were busy outing the problem.
LastResort
2nd February 2012, 10:30 AM
I saw this on another forum I frequent today in a thread about banking fees.
"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes her laws."
Mayer Amschel Rothschild
we need too look closley at who really controls the banks!!!
Maybe some ofthe seeds I've been planting over there are starting to grow.:D
I also spent a few minutes last night browsing through comments on yet another online article about how Iran is set to attack the US soon.
I was surprised to see a bunch of comments fingering Israel as the real bad guys in the middle east. Gave me chills. Those comments also had high ratings.
Shami-Amourae
2nd February 2012, 11:01 AM
I've been talking to this chick who works in the adult industry with me. She was talking about her stocks and I turned the conversation it into Gold/Silver, and I explained the story behind that. So she started investigating the things I said and a few days later she asked me what she should buy, and so forth, and is planning on selling off some of her stocks for Gold/Silver. I pressed further and she knew about the Illuminati/Rothschilds. Then yesterday she started complaining to me about the J's. LOL, I mean she sounded like someone on GS-US. She was angry about everything, how they control the media, politics, education. It was absolutely amazing since I didn't suggest these ideas before. I was able to show her some valid information which made her connect bigger dots. She said she had a hunch for many of these ideas, but still hadn't been able to figure out without me pointing her into the right direction.
Sometimes if you meet a smart person who doesn't get it, but knows something is wrong, you can wake them up. These people can show up anywhere, sometimes in the most unlikely places, were you will least suspect it. This isn't my only example, but I'm learning more and more to just talk about softer issues that lead to the truth with everyone. If they give you negative feedback, just back off and never bring it up again. A few will want to know more, so you tell them more, but make sure you don't lecture them. It's important they have the facts and can investigate this stuff themselves. That's the only real way you can help someone awaken.
Awoke
2nd February 2012, 01:17 PM
Since I got into firearms, I have been introducing people to the lifestyle non-stop. I take long time rifle shooters, or people who have never held a gun before. Since I got into that aspect of prepping (pretty much all the other bases are covered already) I have seen over 20 people go and get their firearms licenses.
People who would have never considered it before.
...and they tell two friends, and they tell two friends...
All the people in my immediate circle know that money is fiat, and that PM's have real intrinsic value. I also encourage everyone I know to stock up some foodstuffs and water. When they ask how much, I tell them 6 months. They may need more, but with firearms and some skills they can hunt some. They may need less, but their friends, family or neighborhood my need help.
Sometimes when I tell people about my preps, they give me the look: "what are you preparing for, kook?"
That is easily delt with by simply reminding them that our Government has brochures instructing people to be prepared for emergencies, and they probably already fail to meet the minimum outlined by the .gov.
So I encourage people to exceed that minimum suggestion.
I will say that I do sense an awakening, and not only that, but I sense some serious control measures coming down the pipes. That is one thing that you can not instruct people on: when to draw the line as far as compliance with the "law" and the "government" are concerned. I would never tell anyone where to draw that line, but I always remind them of two basics that members here have espoused for years:
- disarmament is the precursor to genocide.
- if they come for you, don't go.
Awoke
2nd February 2012, 01:23 PM
She was angry about everything, how they control the media, politics, education. It was absolutely amazing since I didn't suggest these ideas before.
Did you tell her how the porn industry was incepted by the Babylonian Jews, and how they use that industry to totally immoralize the white cultures and disrespect the goyim women, as well as attack the Christian family structure?
Just askin...
Shami-Amourae
2nd February 2012, 01:35 PM
Did you tell her how the porn industry was incepted by the Babylonian Jews, and how they use that industry to totally immoralize the white cultures and disrespect the goyim women, as well as attack the Christian family structure?
Just askin...
White people mainly run the industry these days. The adult industry has become very decentralized. It's not run by Jews anymore.
hoarder
2nd February 2012, 01:39 PM
White people mainly run the industry these days. The adult industry has become very decentralized. It's not run by Jews anymore.They don't need to as long as the agentur do it for them. Their agenda was to promote homosexuality, race mixing and the end of families, but general sexual looseness helps things along in that direction.
Horn
2nd February 2012, 02:02 PM
and the end of families, but general sexual looseness helps things along in that direction.
Nepotism is alive & well within the U.S.
I'll argue that the profits aren't what they used to be, so it was abandoned.
gunDriller
2nd February 2012, 02:24 PM
I've been talking to this chick who works in the adult industry with me.
That's the only real way you can help someone awaken.
i would like to find a T-shirt or jacket patch that gets the point across - or at least a conversation starter.
"USS Liberty - Never Forget", for example.
Maybe a picture of Martin Luther's book, "On the Jews & their Lies".
http://www.amazon.com/Jews-Their-Lies-Martin-Luther/dp/1593640242
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51AS7FDDARL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg
but actually, i would like to find something more subtle.
maybe a picture of Greenspan, Rubin, Summers, Bernanke, and the caption - "Banksters - Notice Anything They Have in Common ?"
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-itVDJaFuYvw/ToY1maU9NtI/AAAAAAAACBU/GMEzr7AAlvM/bernanke_time_1.png
Shami-Amourae
2nd February 2012, 02:33 PM
i would like to find a T-shirt or jacket patch that gets the point across - or at least a conversation starter.
"USS Liberty - Never Forget", for example.
That's a good one.
Horn
2nd February 2012, 02:43 PM
So a GSUS coin is too expensive, we're going with T-shirts this time?
Awoke
3rd February 2012, 11:09 AM
i would like to find a T-shirt or jacket patch that gets the point across - or at least a conversation starter.
We were talking about that last night, and I said if I had a shirt that said "Tim Turner was right!" I would wear it every day, and people would understand it.
but actually, i would like to find something more subtle.
maybe a picture of Greenspan, Rubin, Summers, Bernanke, and the caption - "Banksters - Notice Anything They Have in Common ?"
I was thinking about that as well. I thought about listing all the famous ones of the world from all walks of life, Stalin, Trotsky, Rothschild, Rockefeller, etc, and have the statement "what do all these people have in common?"
That's the kind of shirt that would get you in a lot of trouble though...
gunDriller
3rd February 2012, 11:47 AM
I was thinking about that as well. I thought about listing all the famous ones of the world from all walks of life, Stalin, Trotsky, Rothschild, Rockefeller, etc, and have the statement "what do all these people have in common?"
That's the kind of shirt that would get you in a lot of trouble though...
you could always cover it up with a football/baseball/basketball fan sweat shirt when you go through TSA checkpoints.
Hatha Sunahara
3rd February 2012, 12:29 PM
I think the evidence for people waking up is an interest in, or a recognition of who is controlling events and whose agenda is playing out. The MSM is great at obscuring that and presenting things in ways that do not awaken the sleeping giant that is the truth.
I found this YT video about whether politicans are really 'that dumb'. It passed the waking up filter for me because it steers people into asking the right questions. In this case, the right question is 'Who is really running the USA?' This video approaches that obliquely. Instead of asking directly who is really running things, it implies that the politicians are doing somebody else's bidding because they aren't smart enough to run things themselves. They stop short of asking who really runs things. I am amazed that this kind of journalism comes from Russia Today.
Here's the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=E4rp6AoK2aU
Hatha
Golden
4th February 2012, 01:14 PM
I am amazed that this kind of journalism comes from Russia Today.
I'm not. They have an agenda too!
PatColo
4th February 2012, 03:43 PM
I don't think I've ever seen RT do a segment where izzy is fingered, the way I've seen Iran's Press TV do so, via guests, usually American dissidents.
9/11 and Israel: Alan Sabrosky’s Shocking Press TV Interview (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/17/911-and-israel-alan-sabroskys-shocking-press-tv-interview/)
Iran target of 'false flag' strategy? (http://presstv.com/detail/220979.html)
Mark Glenn really lets loose in this one,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eosoFZbELHU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eosoFZbELHU
too bad this US Patriot guest misspoke at 5:55 and didn't catch it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f936GCr2o_w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f936GCr2o_w
'Stop Zionism from initiating new war'
(http://www.presstv.ir/detail/222713.html)
UK kick RT out of the country yet?
Thread: Press TV loses UK licence, claims UK jamming IRIB signals from Bahrain (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?58318-Press-TV-loses-UK-licence-claims-UK-jamming-IRIB-signals-from-Bahrain)
PatColo
10th February 2012, 08:20 PM
this blog's about 911 but it's same story regarding so many rabbit hole topics (http://www.911weknow.com/the-rabbit-hole) we end up studying, when we try to point others to these truths.
Standing up for unpopular truths about 9/11 comes at a personal cost (http://truthandshadows.wordpress.com/2011/12/18/standing-up-for-unpopular-truths-about-911-comes-at-a-personal-cost/)
By Craig McKee
Is standing up for what you believe worth losing friends over?
Sometimes those friends don’t give you a choice. Other times, you can decide to stay away from certain subjects with certain people.
Recently I parted ways with two people I’ve known for more than a quarter of a century. Admittedly, we haven’t hung out for some time, but we do have a history. I don’t think we’re going to be adding to it, though.
In fact, there are five people I connected with on Facebook who are no longer among my online friends. The short version of the story is that they don’t much like my opinion that 9/11 was an inside job and a false flag operation. But they took it further.
Over the weekend of September 8-11, I was attending the Toronto 9/11 Hearings when I made this comment on FB: “So, according to the U.S., a “specific” and “credible” threat has emerged about a terror attack in NY. But there’s a “great deal of uncertainty” and the warning is being done “out of an abundance of caution.” When are people going to see this bullshit for what it is?? Social control and manipulation through fear!”
So far so good. One of my buddies retorted: “Yup, yet another grand scheme by American authorities. Maybe you should spend just a little of your time this weekend considering the 2700+ dead and their families?”
It was the old, “How can you disrespect the victims and their families by questioning 9/11?” argument. It’s not enough that these friends think I’m wrong, they also think that at long last I have left no sense of decency. Or something like that.
It got worse: “Craig, I consider myself open minded and have read up on the conspiracy theories (Griffin et.al.) and feel that the authors (sorry but this includes you) have a bizarre agenda to create so called ‘fact’ out of conjecture. I have yet to read anything really compelling –it all seems like acute paranoia. Sorry if you feel insulted by my comments.”
I love it when people add an apology after they’ve just trashed you. It’s as if they only meant the trashing in the nicest possible way. Of course, I’m flattered to share a “bizarre agenda” with David Ray Griffin, although I’m not sure he’s thrilled to be sharing one with me.
This exchange ended here, but this person, who I’ll call unfriend #1, would make a return on the back of an even more colourful full frontal attack from another longtime friend-like person. We’ll call him unfriend #2.
I posted a link last week showing that the FAA monitoring system on Sept. 11, 2001 was indicating that Flight 175 was still airborne after it was alleged to have crashed into the South Tower of the World Trade Center.
I suggested that this was further evidence that commercial airliners with passengers did NOT hit the WTC. Someone I used to work with wrote back, “Get real.” He unfriended me immediately (we would call him unfriend #3, but he doesn’t actually come back into the story). Unfriend #2 called my comment “reprehensible,” which got a “like” from unfriend #1.
Unfriend #2 went on: “It is an irresponsible and dangerous opinion, I believe. Luckily you live in a country that you are allowed opinions no matter how ridiculous and not be thrown in jail. I know exactly why you were unfriended – you bully anyone who thinks differently than you and my blood pressure goes up when I read your conspiracy ‘stuff’ I consider you a friend from way back but I think you have become obsessed and unhealthy.”
Yes, how lucky we all are not to be thrown in jail. How nice to be “allowed” our opinions. On old high school friend, who I’ve connected with again through FB, came to my rescue: “Craig has never ‘bullied” me or anyone I know. He expresses and discusses his opinions but does not “impose” them. The people that feel pressured could just be reacting with immaturity because they do not want others to have differing opinions from their own.”
Maybe there’s hope after all, I thought.
Unfriend #2 ended with this announcement: “To me you have unfortunately become obsessed and any obsession is very unhealthy. I am de-friending you for no other reason except my health. I cannot stand your opinion and yes, you do have a right to your opinion. It’s just that I really do feel sick when I think of you and others actually believing some of this stuff.”
So now I’m dangerous, obsessed and suffering from acute paranoia (very unhealthy indeed) I’m already down two friends, and I decide that I’m disgusted enough with both unfriend #1 and #2 that I officially “unfriend” #2 and then block them both. Three down.
Actually, it’s really five down. Last fall there was another exchange.
From an acquaintance I obviously didn’t know well enough: “Not long ago the conspiracy theorist came out from whatever rock they live under concerning 9/11 towers being blown up by the government………..my opinion is it is utter nonesense and hurtful to people who lost loved ones that day. Besides if if if it was the government do you really think all the people involved in doing such a horific event could keep such a secret……….surely one of those people now no longer in government, someone in cia fbi nsa………hasn’t written a book in order to cash in and become a bmillionaire !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Next you’ll be telling me Saddam Insane was really a nice guy, who cared about humanity and the greater well being of our planet………..and was not really hung and lives in Akron Ohio working in a walmart…………so Craig take your theories and shove them where the sun don’t shine.”
Okay, he’s not William F. Buckley, but he makes up for it with sheer dull-witted venom. (I got a laugh out of “nonesense” at least.)
Another FB friend joined in: “When you fear mongers attack peoples emotions and psyche, expect to be targetted in return, cause in the long run you guys are just as evil as the governments you try to attack. When theories are debunked, you call them closed mind yet you want them all to accept the shit you spew.”
I told him to apologize for calling me evil; he didn’t, so he’s now unfriend #4. In person, however, we are now “friendly.”
Should I treat 9/11 just like any other subject I’m interested in, and mention it only once in a while? At one time maybe, but, as Geena Davis said near the end of Thelma and Louise, “Something has crossed over in me, and I can’t go back.”
Learning about 9/11, especially since starting this blog, has changed me forever, because it has helped me to connect so many dots I couldn’t connect before. It has helped me to see how so much chaos, violence, and misery is artificially caused by the very powerful elite that runs a good chunk of the world.
9/11 is like the doorway to a shadowy world of control, manipulation and deception. The elites revealed themselves to us with this atrocity, kind of like when the Klingons have to de-cloak to fire on their enemies. But most of us weren’t paying attention when it happened. We’re still not.
This destructive event was the work of people who have a cynical contempt for all of us, for freedom and decency. We’re cattle, or more likely sheep, to these people. They hold all the cards. They have most of us believing that anyone who questions how freedom and human decency are being corrupted is a wack job or doesn’t care about victims. The elites have successfully made the word “conspiracy” seem like a synonym for delusional fantasy.
I have a friend in Toronto who I visited while I was there in September. I met this person while we were both attending York University, and we’ve been close friends ever since. She was someone who opened my eyes to a lot of injustice in the world – my safe, middle-of-the-road political views have never been the same.
But in Toronto I got a rude shock. Not only did my progressive and brilliant friend not agree with me about 9/11, she didn’t even think it mattered that much. Ya, the U.S. might have found out about the plot and let it happen, she allowed, but so what?
I spent a good part of our visit, too much of it really, trying to convince her she was wrong. But in the end, she maintained that I was wasting much time I could be spending making the world better in some concrete, practical way.
This taught me a hard truth. If I really believe in what I’m saying and writing about, then I’m going to have to be prepared to go there alone at times. I’m going to have to decide when to put away what I care about to get along and when to put truth ahead of everything. Sure, many friends are supportive (even if they don’t agree), and I’ve met new friends from all over the world who believe as I do.
But in the end, the passion I have for exposing what I believe to be the truth about 9/11 comes with no guarantee of moral support or any other kind of support.
Many around the world have paid an infinitely higher price for 9/11. Those killed that day, those killed in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere. Millions of lives have been destroyed based on a massive and obscene lie. And freedoms we all take for granted are being stolen away right under our noses.
Losing a few friends isn’t such a great price to pay.
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good blog entries too, check it out: http://truthandshadows.wordpress.com
Hatha Sunahara
10th February 2012, 10:36 PM
It seems that the truth is 'unobtanium'. If you think you have it, someone will come around and tell you that you don't. The truth is whatever you believe it is--it doesn't have to be based on facts, or logic, or reason.
Conspiracy theorists is a modern euphemism for 'heretics'. People who do not accept the official dogma. People who should be burned at the stake. They have to be eliminated to protect the official dogma. Don't listen to them. They are just crackpots telling you lies.
I wonder if life could have been much different in the middle ages for the heretics of the Catholic Church. Crackpot ideas like heliocentric orbits of planets, and that the earth was round. Galileo was a conspiracy theorist of the day--because he exposed the dogma to thought. Them that's got the power, get to make the myths. 911 is in the realm of mythology. And you, sir, if you don't believe the official story are a heretic. Fie on you!
Hatha
Hatha Sunahara
11th February 2012, 11:24 AM
With regard to 'awakening', I found an interesting piece at Walter Burien's CAFR1 site. It seems that Walter Burien has the same problem the 911 Truthers have--people don't believe him when he tells them that the governments that rule them have amassed huge pools of capital from 'excess taxes'. Denial of this is very high. But he has a strategy to bypass that motive for denial: Don't tell people the facts, ask them questions that help them formulate the answers for themselves. Here's a link to the Walter Burien article:
http://cafr1.com/One-And-All.html
Burien makes a similar point about 911 here in this article:
http://cafr1.com/wr911.html
Hatha
Golden
11th February 2012, 12:14 PM
“How can you disrespect the victims and their families by questioning 9/11?”
His rebuttal could have been the commercial paid for by families of 9/11.
I've a buddy whose consistent reply with my interests is and I quote "Your gonna die anyway so..." end of discussion.
Harriett Tubman said, "I freed a thousand slaves I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."
Awoke
11th February 2012, 03:47 PM
unfriend #1 and unfriend#2 sound like a bunch of pre-madonna drama queens.
Sparky
13th February 2012, 12:16 PM
Two more examples: Following a discussion on government and the economy with a friend in DC, he recommended to me that I read The Road to Serfdom! Also, following a discussion with someone else about the ultimate consequences of world debt, I was asked "So, where would someone go to actually buy physical precious metals"?
So, the "crazy" reaction is transforming into a "curious" reaction. I know the sheeple are still in the majority, but I think the ship is slowly turning. Educate, but don't do it with a sense of panic, cuz it turns people off. I simply present it from a position of "awareness", rather than doom. People are now much more skeptical, and they are interested in theories as to what is really going on. But there's no need to frighten them, as it will only turn them away. Slowly, slowly.
osoab
13th February 2012, 12:27 PM
Don't tell people the facts, ask them questions that help them formulate the answers for themselves. Here's a link to the Walter Burien article:
Hatha
I have tried that to some extent. I have found that most want the info spoon fed to them from a "trusted news source".
dys
13th February 2012, 01:29 PM
I'm getting discouraged. Seeing a lot of 'perceptive blocks' out of otherwise intelligent people on some of the most simple and self evident truth out there. There seems to be a 'paradox of simplicity' that arises when a reasonably intelligent adult encounters simplicity as truth. My experience is that their natural tendency is to try to intellectualize it away, or worse- claim a complexity to the concept that doesn't exist. Some of the best prospects don't intellectualize, they simply can't or won't grasp simplicity.
dys
Sparky
13th February 2012, 01:54 PM
I'm getting discouraged. Seeing a lot of 'perceptive blocks' out of otherwise intelligent people on some of the most simple and self evident truth out there. There seems to be a 'paradox of simplicity' that arises when a reasonably intelligent adult encounters simplicity as truth. My experience is that their natural tendency is to try to intellectualize it away, or worse- claim a complexity to the concept that doesn't exist. Some of the best prospects don't intellectualize, they simply can't or won't grasp simplicity.
dys
That's probably because once you know the truth, it seems simple. It's not.
dys
13th February 2012, 02:13 PM
That's probably because once you know the truth, it seems simple. It's not.
I have to disagree with you, Sparky. I think the truth is very simple. One of the very first things that I ever learned about the bad guys is that they try to complicate the simple.
dys
Sparky
13th February 2012, 02:21 PM
I have to disagree with you, Sparky. I think the truth is very simple. One of the very first things that I ever learned about the bad guys is that they try to complicate the simple.
dys
OK, we'll have to disagree unless you can illustrate to me why the truth is simple. We on this forum think we understand, and yet we often can't agree amongst ourselves. It's takem most of us a good portion of our lives to piece together the truth, and we're still working at it. How simple can it be?
hoarder
13th February 2012, 02:28 PM
OK, we'll have to disagree unless you can illustrate to me why the truth is simple. We on this forum think we understand, and yet we often can't agree amongst ourselves. It's takem most of us a good portion of our lives to piece together the truth, and we're still working at it. How simple can it be?The truth is not that complicated. The great hurdle is not to understand the truth but to overcome our false beliefs that prevent use from seeing. Once we do that, we become embarrassed by how stupid we were not to see the obvious.
dys
13th February 2012, 02:29 PM
OK, we'll have to disagree unless you can illustrate to me why the truth is simple. We on this forum think we understand, and yet we often can't agree amongst ourselves. It's takem most of us a good portion of our lives to piece together the truth, and we're still working at it. How simple can it be?
I think what often happens here is that we often argue over the repercussions of the truth or the symptoms of the truth, not the truth itself. And to be truthful (pun intented), I don't think the majority on this forum embrace or accept the truth (but almost everyone here is much closer than the average bear).
dys
k-os
19th February 2012, 08:07 PM
A new friend of mine just started prepping, and I'd like to believe I had something to do with that. :) Whether he's in on "the grand conspiracy" is unknown, but there is a sense of unease about the future, and that's a start.
MNeagle
19th February 2012, 08:54 PM
That's great. What'd he start with?
k-os
19th February 2012, 09:09 PM
That's great. What'd he start with?
Long term food storage, and then water purification . . . and then heat for the food.
Hatha Sunahara
20th February 2012, 02:51 AM
There is a thread here about Marc Stevens. This is the first time I have heard of him, and it caught my interest so I read his book. That woke me up a bit. I was aware of corruption in the justice system from reading Eustace Mullins, but I was not aware of what can be done about it until I read Mark Stevens book Adventures in Legal Land. It seems that the tyrants who rule us need our consent. But they have no obligation to protect us.
Stevens makes a really good point in his book. Something that slips past most of us. None of us are allowed to steal our neighbor's property. Yet the government allows itself to do just that when they impose fines on us or seize our assets. If the government derives its power from the consent of the governed, and the governed are not allowed to steal from each other, where does the state get that power? Surely the governed cannot delegate a power to the government that they do not have themselves.
What I awakened to is that the state is just a mental construct--not a tangible thing. What it does is the will of the people who 'operate' it for their own benefit under the guise of being representatives of the people. What the Occupy Wall Street movement calls the 1% is the state. There is no difference between the 545 people who are the US Federal Government and the corporations and banks and other moneyed interests they represent. The 99% they claim to represent are really their slaves,and the whole charade relies on the appearance of our consent to be their slaves. We need to behave in ways that smashes the appearance of that consent and see where that leaves them. You cannot threaten people with extreme violence and claim that you are governing with the consent of the governed. Being awake is being able to see that contradiction and communicating it to others. It's that simple.
Hatha
PatColo
20th February 2012, 06:31 PM
Stevens makes a really good point in his book. Something that slips past most of us. None of us are allowed to steal our neighbor's property. Yet the government allows itself to do just that when they impose fines on us or seize our assets. If the government derives its power from the consent of the governed, and the governed are not allowed to steal from each other, where does the state get that power? Surely the governed cannot delegate a power to the government that they do not have themselves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO2eh6f5Go0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO2eh6f5Go0
VX1
20th February 2012, 06:47 PM
Stevens makes a really good point in his book. Something that slips past most of us. None of us are allowed to steal our neighbor's property. Yet the government allows itself to do just that when they impose fines on us or seize our assets. If the government derives its power from the consent of the governed, and the governed are not allowed to steal from each other, where does the state get that power? Surely the governed cannot delegate a power to the government that they do not have themselves.
What I awakened to is that the state is just a mental construct--not a tangible thing. What it does is the will of the people who 'operate' it for their own benefit under the guise of being representatives of the people. What the Occupy Wall Street movement calls the 1% is the state. There is no difference between the 545 people who are the US Federal Government and the corporations and banks and other moneyed interests they represent. The 99% they claim to represent are really their slaves,and the whole charade relies on the appearance of our consent to be their slaves. We need to behave in ways that smashes the appearance of that consent and see where that leaves them. You cannot threaten people with extreme violence and claim that you are governing with the consent of the governed. Being awake is being able to see that contradiction and communicating it to others. It's that simple.
Hatha
Another great book along these exact lines is "The Most Dangerous Superstition".
http://www.amazon.com/Most-Dangerous-Superstition-Larken-Rose/dp/145075063X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1329788543&sr=8-1
Sparky
20th February 2012, 07:52 PM
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What the Occupy Wall Street movement calls the 1% is the state. There is no difference between the 545 people who are the US Federal Government and the corporations and banks and other moneyed interests they represent. The 99% they claim to represent are really their slaves,and the whole charade relies on the appearance of our consent to be their slaves. We need to behave in ways that smashes the appearance of that consent and see where that leaves them.
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Being awake is being able to see that contradiction and communicating it to others. It's that simple.
Hatha
Excellent insight, Hatha. I have extracted my favorite part of your post, which ends with a challenging action statement. First see it, then communicate it. Group awareness is key, and I see it growing slowly but surely.
Hatha Sunahara
27th February 2012, 01:43 PM
Here's a good example of people waking up:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/24/10499355-romney-lays-out-economic-vision-in-mostly-empty-stadium
Hatha
Sparky
27th February 2012, 02:16 PM
Sometimes I listen to the callers into the Washington Journal on C-Span. This morning the first caller said the campaign is meaningless, because the two-party system is the problem. Shortly after that, another guy called in to say that it things are on such a bad track that we are in for a rough ride regardless of who wins the presidency, so he had little interest in the election. The number of people who now see the futility of having any faith in the current corrupted political system is growing.
PatColo
3rd March 2012, 09:25 AM
This is a handy little doohickey, can post to messagboards, will animate in emails etc, just copy/paste:
The Strange, Free-Fall-Speed
Collapse "Due To Fire" Of
http://noliesradio.org/images/wtc7small.gif
World Trade Center Building 7 (http://architects-engineers.org/)
or alternatively,
Architects & Engineers: (http://architects-engineers.org/)
http://noliesradio.org/images/wtc7small.gif
Solving the Mystery of
World Trade Center Building 7 (http://architects-engineers.org/)
if they click it- it goes to ae911truth.org's page: http://architects-engineers.org which then auto-plays their 15 minute mini-documentary just released a few months ago around 9/11/11,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw
^ why not make one of those WTC7 pics above into your email signature? Just copy/paste one of them into the place where you set up your email siggy. It will probably carry the ae911truth URL with the paste job, otherwise you may need to link it manually.
anyways, here's a good Corbett report audio,
16
Feb
2012
Corbett Report Radio 070 – Overcoming Learned Helplessness (http://www.corbettreport.com/corbett-report-radio-070-overcoming-learned-helplessness/)
Posted by Corbett (http://www.corbettreport.com/author/admin/)
Podcast: Download (http://www.corbettreport.com/mp3/crr070.mp3)
http://www.corbettreport.com/images/helplessness.jpg
In 1965, Martin Seligman conducted a series of experiments showing that dogs could be conditioned into accepting electric shocks, even when they were easily avoidable. This is the essence of learned helplessness, and like so many other findings, it is easily applicable to our own situation. Humans, too, can learn to accept the “shocks” of corrupt governments or economic catastrophes or TSA groping or the NDAA or online censorship…but just as people can learn helplessness, they can learn the exact opposite. Join us tonight on Corbett Report Radio as we explore the solutions to the learned helplessness conundrum.
Works Cited:
How to Read the News (http://www.corbettreport.com/episode-048-how-to-read-the-news/)
Everything Seemingly Is Spinning Out of Control (http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/06/22/9809)
What You’ve Been Missing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbCKLr_vHhY)
Operant Conditioning (Skinner box) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_ctJqjlrHA)
Walden Two by B.F. Skinner (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walden_Two)
Learned Helplessness – explanation (http://www.noogenesis.com/malama/discouragement/helplessness.html)
Nicholas Christakis – TED Talk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U-tOghblfE)
“I Am Fishead” (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MWpxH-RlFQ)
Congressional approval hits another all-time low (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57373478-503544/congressional-approval-hits-another-all-time-low/)
Why have no bankers been arrested? (http://blogs.channel4.com/snowblog/bankers-arrested/16148)
BASF to Stop Selling Genetically Modified Products in Europe (http://foodworldorder.blogspot.com/2012/01/basf-to-stop-selling-genetically.html)
LastResort
13th March 2012, 05:42 AM
I saw a infowars.com sticker on a vehicle on my way into work this morning. Pretty ballsy. Not perfect but its a start...LOL
Awoke
13th March 2012, 05:45 AM
“How can you disrespect the victims and their families by questioning 9/11?”
His rebuttal could have been the commercial paid for by families of 9/11.
How can you disrespect the victims and their families by not questioning 9/11?
Golden
13th March 2012, 09:34 AM
I heard this cat Douglas Dietrich on Coast to Coast last night. Anyone here ever heard of ATS? What say GSUS?
NSFW, BOHICA and the music is too loud...
Episode 1: Douglas Dietrich: 911 and The House of Saud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPBD9QsEN4Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPBD9QsEN4Y
Uploaded by Thewormholes on Oct 7, 2009
Douglas Dietrich breaks down 911 and The House of Saud
1. Saudi Arabia: House of Saud, part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4EkGqb4mKE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4EkGqb4mKE
Uploaded by TheHistoryProfessor on May 22, 2009
dys
13th March 2012, 06:31 PM
How can you disrespect the victims and their families by not questioning 9/11?
Wow, sometimes someone will say something and I think they've crawled inside my head. I've tried this argument many times, and for some reason it (it- meaning the argument you alluded to) has been a colossal failure in my experience. Most people believe strongly that it's disrespectful to family members of 911 victims to question the company line on 911. To me this is evidence that often the most effective form of propaganda is simple repetition.
dys
Awoke
14th March 2012, 06:00 AM
Most people believe strongly that it's disrespectful to family members of 911 victims to question the company line on 911.
Yeah, well most people also believe that George W. Bush is a Christian, Obama is American, and Alex Jones is not a jew.
PatColo
6th April 2012, 05:47 AM
I've been browsing the articles at this UK guy's blog: http://diggerfortruth.wordpress.com - much of it worthwhile, if you can tolerate his frequent typos & bad grammar. This one's interesting,
Watering Seeds (http://diggerfortruth.wordpress.com/2012/01/05/watering-seeds)
http://cdn.blogs.sheknows.com/gardening.sheknows.com/2011/01/seedling-in-hands.jpg
Being mindful of how we deliver the truth
How many of us have come across the zealot vegans who shove a leaflet in our face titled GO VEGAN! I often wondered what their success rate is. As if someone would suddenly convert over to ‘their’ side, to an alternative thinking and lifestyle after being exposed to that aggressive pitch.
My approach these days whenever I’m delivering this message is I immediately polarize people into two groups:
1/. People I will probably never meet again
2/. People I will most probably meet up again at some point.
The first group I tend to just provide them with a flyer or piece of paper containing a list of various websites and films. The second group who I’m sure I will meet up with again, say in a work place, or social event I tend to tread more carefully. Like a burglar throwing up a stone to the window to see if anyone is at home, I try to gain their levels of awareness. Are they entrenched in their unconsciousness, or do they have some level of social/global awareness?
The reason for this is because in a work or social environment handing this stuff out could backfire on you and you end up indirectly losing your job, or create an awkward atmosphere. It does happen. So it may be wise to play it low key and bite your tongue in some environments and keep all your truthing activities outside the workplace. Remember if you have no income this could disable your activities, so it’s not worth it. Perhaps if you know your going to leave anyway, get people’s e-mails and send material on to them once you’ve left.
So with the second group of people for example I may talk about the economy and test the water to see their views on it. If they immediately retort in TV (talmudvision) talk I don’t give up on them, as I understand that’s just the programming seeping through. I persevere to see if there is something inside which has the ‘potential’ of some level of independent thought. It’s like head hunting – all we need is a spark of potential which could be nurtured into a free-thinker. This process could take weeks.
I accept this may all sound judgmental and dismissive of people, but it’s through years of experience and wasted energy in trying to tap into the unconscious sheople I have come to make these observations. Years of people watching, and almost character profiling. I’m at a stage now that within a few minutes and even less sometimes I can suss out if I’m wasting my energy.
Tell tell signs are if they constantly interrupt you and dominate the conversation all about their selfish lifestyles. They also tend to be insensitive to the environment and people around them.
The qualities of a potential truther tend to be people who are:
* Less ego-driven
* More conscious
* More sensitive towards others and environments
* Reflective thinkers
* Generally not loud mouths
* Less materialistic
* Not immature with their approach to winning games (golf, football whatever). In fact they are less involved in these competitive sports and are more into self-development.
* They tend to be less work, career or money driven
* Someone who is socially aware, even if it is only local politics
* Less self-absorbed, more altruistic
* Relatively good listeners
* Have relative wisdom and common sense (it is not important that they are academically intelligent. In fact as many of us have observed those types of people tend to be the least open to this information. These academic-heads are just good repeaters, regurgitating the judaic system)
* People who tend to be less engrained in their identity. They are not so caught up in this “I AM” business. I am a ….buddhist, I am a …..vegetarian, I am a …..housewife, I am a …..golfer, whatever.
* They often have had some level of negative experience with authoritative figures such as magistrates, police, local councils, social services, etc and even the media. They know ‘the system ain’t quite how it ought to be’.
* People who have respect for a friend, sibling, colleague, partner who has already primed them with the fundaments of the conspiracy.
* People who have had a recent life-shattering or spiritual experience and have an element of curiosity to how the world ‘really’ runs and an alternative to what they have absorbed to date.
Once I have recognised that I have a potential truther before me, someone who really is prepared to absorb new information as opposed to just being a ‘nodding dog’ (politely pretending to listen), I then tread carefully to the next level.
I try to pick up on what their interests are – be it hiking, natural health, education, politics, whatever and then tailor the conversation around their interests making a tentative link to a more neural part of this agenda.
So for example if someone is into nutrition I would listen carefully to their views on it and nod and agree (even if I disagree with their approach/ideas), then gently gently weave in the topic of “Codex Alimentarias”, or vaccines, or GM foods, whatever.
If they were into economics I would ask them their views on compound interest and ask if they’ve heard of usury. I would then scribble down films for them to watch such as “Money as Debt” and “Money Masters”.
I would never claim to really know my subject, but play neutral to avoid ego bashing. I would pretend someone I met mentioned this or that to me and wondered what their thoughts were on this.
I know this is outright lying and we are supposed to be in the truth movement. But hey – we have an important job to do. This is a life or death situation. You and I are potentially trying to curb WW3, so telling the odd porkie (pork pie = lie) here n there to save lives ain’t such a sin.
I would ‘try’ and remain detached, lighthearted, neutral, balanced and most definitely non-pushy. Occasionally injecting some humour into the conversation if appropriate. Although at times it’s hard to do.
I try to think “What feeling/emotion does that person have after speaking with me? – What first impression do they have of the truth movement of truthers?”
The problem is we are so passionate about this subject and we have to keep a cool head when dealing with such blatant ignorance. It’s tough, especially when we’re tired or had a hard day, but we just have to try hard. When you feel yourself about to bite, snap or growl at a comment such as “Obama is going to get us out of this mess” or “If you don’t like it, just vote them out”, or “You’re just one of those conspiracy nutters” just detach, smile and try and stay neutral.
We all have egos and it’s tough to keep it out of all of this. If we try to think what are the chances that after you engage in an ego battle when sharing the truth that that person will whistle off home and eagerly look at the information you gave them. You know this will never happen, in fact they probably will just throw it in the bin and from then on they will always label any truth as silly little conspiracy theories.
The damage is then done and it will take an awful lot to repair and turn that person around – if ever.
I find just responding “Right” or “OK” in a gentle tonewhen being exposed to these conditioned comments helps me. It keeps me in neutral territory. Then I can either walk away or try a different approach.
“You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.” – Author Unknown
I have now found it useful that prior to going into a social event I prep myself mentally. This is especially useful to do when going into a family gathering. I gear myself up almost as if I’m going for an interview so that I’m prepared to be tested. Almost like I’m an actor. I feel this is one of the most important subjects on this planet and we are in the most insane unprecedented times the world has known – potentially end times. So making small sacrifices like this no matter how awkward and artificial it all is, is essential.
I always think to myself that by passing this information on it could eventually end up in the hands of a leading light in the movement, a character type similar to Mark Glenn, John Kaminski, Daryl Bradford Smith, Michael Collins Piper, Keith Johnson, etc. Just think of the potential. They may just have the skills and resources you don’t have, such as a brilliant video maker, public speaker, or musician, writer, poet whatever who could really get this truth out there. Yet all their talent may be presently wasted away on trivial degrading material and probably serving the judaic agenda. In addition you may prevent that person playing a significant role in this matrix, such as a future police officer or soldier whatever.
I feel we have to view everyone we interact with, even a conditioned organic robotic soldier as someone who potentially could wake up. Despite the odds being low. This soldier is intrenched in his identity. I AM a ….soldier. I have to constantly remind myself I too was once quite unconscious with my selfish little pursuits and identities.
In addition be mindful that the person you give the information to may not necessarily be particularly switched on to this material, however if you tread carefully and make some kind of impression you may just persuade them to pass this information onto someone else who absolutely takes the batten and runs with it. They may just act as a stepping stone between you and someone ripe for the truth.
Whenever you get disheartened or frustrated by all this nonsense, its a great thing to remind yourself that once that genie is out of the bottle, it ain’t going back in. When people migrate over to our side, they will NEVER go back to unknowing the truth. People can never UNsee, UNread and UNhear this truth no matter how they respond to it. You will always at some level sow a seed, despite it appearing a futile even negative exercise. It’s only when we ego bash that we can do damage as people then take sides and dig their heels in with resistance. So try hard to be self-disciplined gently gently does it.
The positive aspects of sharing this information no matter how strenuous it can be at times is that it helps with any pent up frustration with the events unfolding. Whatever happens in this battle you can hold your head up and say I did my bit. Plus you are helping people’s lives in the long run. Knowledge can be empowering for those who engage with it.
I see our job is to essentially nurture, encourage and help develop people’s potential consciousness. Like watering a seed.
I try to set myself little targets when I’m out n about. I may for example try and pass on information to at least ten people before I go home. Or pass on info to 30 people a week whatever.
“Who is more foolish, the child afraid of the dark, or the man afraid of the light?” – Maurice Freehill
It may seem odd at first instigating a conversation with a complete stranger, especially when we’re in a society which doesn’t converse. but it gets easier. The elite Jews have created a society were complete strangers do no not talk to each other through mistrust, paranoia and/or being totally self-absorbed. Everyone seems to be plugged into some sort of IT gadget now. This is no accident. They don’t want us making conversation. Talking is potentially dangerous to the elite – information gets shared that way. So that is exactly what us ‘in the know’ have to do. Talk and lots of it to lots and lots of people.
But how do you engage in conversation with a complete stranger?
Well essentially any way you can, as long as you are being respectful and not depriving people of their personal space. Try to be conscious of people’s feelings and body language.
A simple example:
Make a fuss of someone’s dog. Make out you had an identical dog just like theirs as a child. Yea I know another porkie, it’s gotta be done. Then maybe talk about the outlandish vet fees, and if the conversation flows, slide it towards the cost of living, then say another porkie and say something like “You know I heard on the radio the other day that the bankers rewarded themselves £140 Billion in bonuses for screwing up the country” If they bite to that, then stick with financial and social topics and then scribble down some sites which explain about who is behind all this mess.
Likewise you could pretend you’re impressed with their car, boat or garden whatever. Show interest in their possessions at some level first. But not too much. Pitch it enough so as you can soon connect on to a more neutral subject, then onto the agenda. You can usually get to the agenda within 3/5 stepping stone topics.
I tend not to mention ‘the Jews’ in an approach like that, I generally stay neutral. They will find out in the sites you give them when they get home.
I must admit sometimes the conversation hits the floor like a lead balloon, and you never get a chance to develop it to then pass on info. But that’s ok, it was a learning curve, just move on to the next victim.
When handing someone a leaflet I just say something like “Here’s some information which the main stream media aren’t telling us”. Or whatever the topic they’re interested in, I make out the websites are related – well it’s partly true as everything on this planet has been infected by the judaic virus.
I promise you it does get easier and like any skill it just needs honing. After the first few times the shyness and uncomfortableness goes. Even if the first couple of times are awkward yet you still manage to pass on the info – thats all that matters. Every conversation and every interaction will be a valid experience. You will develop your presentation and knowledge base and become so skilled you will be able to weave around any topic to deliver the truth. Become a mini actor.
These days I can somehow engineer the conversation around from a the topic of a simple garden hose to this agenda. It may take a bit of doing, lots of incremental stepping stones, but I get there in the end. And the people go off home with a leaflet or a piece of paper with half a dozen websites and films. Job done!
In conclusion
* ‘Try’ hard to keep the ego out.
* Gently gently does it. Avoid ruffling anyone’s feathers, it’s unproductive.
* Keep it friendly and respectful. Agree to disagree. Walk away if need be.
* LISTEN in the conversation, try not to dominate the discussion. Be conscious, be sensitive, tune into that person’s character.
* Keep neutral – don’t mention ‘the Jews’ unless they do. Make out someone gave you this info and you’re not quite sure yet what to make of it yourself. Sometimes it even pays to act ignorant if they are being antagonistic or challenging. Just say something like “Well it seems as if you know your stuff”. That way you may still end up giving them the info. They may have just been in a funny mood that day and the next day they are looking up your info.
* Don’t put yourself or anyone else in a compromised awkward position. Be sensitive and use some common sense in approaching people. Especially at night.
* Be an actor
* Swat up on your stuff first before you hit the streets, just the fundamentals in case you get cornered. Never challenge anyone, but knowing your material will allow you to re-approach the topic in different light.
* Make sure you have a pen and paper and leaflets to give them.
* Be on your guard for Jews who may want to catch you out. i.e don’t give out your personal details unless you 100% feel comfortable with that person.
* Try to dress appropriately – neutral. Clean, tidy, etc. Make sure your breath doesn’t smell and be conscious of body odour.
* Most of all be mindful of the impression/resonance you will leave with that person and what example you will have on the truth movement. Avoid trying to be a smart arse or arrogant.
Keep tapping away at the truth fellow truthpeckers. We ARE making headway, even though it’s hard to see at times. The elite Jews know this and they’re scared as hell. Spreading the truth is one of the most positive activities you can do on this earth.
“You can’t wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.” – Navajo Proverb
PatColo
6th April 2012, 06:13 AM
It may seem odd at first instigating a conversation with a complete stranger, especially when we’re in a society which doesn’t converse. but it gets easier. The elite Jews have created a society were complete strangers do no not talk to each other through mistrust, paranoia and/or being totally self-absorbed. Everyone seems to be plugged into some sort of IT gadget now. This is no accident. They don’t want us making conversation. Talking is potentially dangerous to the elite – information gets shared that way. So that is exactly what us ‘in the know’ have to do. Talk and lots of it to lots and lots of people.
In a recent couple of Kevin Barrett Truth Jihad Radio podcasts (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.com/), he's had UK guests on, and one of them claimed that there's currently a public, gummit-sponsored campaign to discourage people from drinking in pubs, and to instead buy their bottle at the store and drink at home. Anyone who knows UK culture knows that people who don't drink (at pubs?) are suspect of being, well, you name it. So they were speculating that the real reason for this was to reduce peoples' talking with one another, sharing knowledge etc- and instead encouraging them to "save a few quid" and isolate at home for their drinking (with talmudvision, radio etc) where the info and analysis (propaganda) they receive is controlled...
I'm on my way out or else I'd startpage (http://startpage.com)-search some kind of ZSM story about this alleged UK campaign; you're welcome to search it though.
tater
6th April 2012, 07:40 AM
The FedEx guy stopped to drop off a delivery this week and pointed at the 2008 Ron Paul bumper sticker on my truck and says "I told my wife I'm seeing more Ron Paul bumper stickers than any others". He said she asked him why wasn't Paul doing better if it seems so many people are liking him? He says he told her that he was being cheated. I asked him did he think the electronic voting was rigged and he says "sure do". I told him "me too".
Two days later I'm waiting in a fast food lane waiting on my order when this fella comes out and says "I voted for old Ron last time but it didn't do any good". Took me a sec, I was in the wife's car and she also has a Ron Paul bumper sticker. I asked him what about this year and he says he can only vote and hope. My county only had 16 votes (?) for Ron Paul in the 2008 primaries. I've never had anyone mention Ron Paul to me before unless they knew me. Just an observation...
Sparky
6th April 2012, 10:39 AM
A friend who works at the local (suburban) library says that over the last couple of years there has been an extraordinary demand for books about how to raise chickens...
PatColo
7th April 2012, 10:22 PM
also from http://diggerfortruth.wordpress.com
The 6 Stages of Awakening (http://diggerfortruth.wordpress.com/2012/04/03/741/)
http://discoverandlearn.net/educational-music-for-kids/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/fork-in-the-road1.jpg
1/. The bloody government
Moan moan moan all about the corrupt politicians, local councils, being ripped off by utility companies, insane legislation, injustices everywhere. Thankfully many people are now at this first stage of waking up.
2/. Arrrhhh so that’s why!
Ohhh right, so there is a reason for all this madness after all ……The New World Order/Illuminati. So it’s the freemasons, the Club of Rome, the Bilderburgs, the CFR, endless secret societies and on and on.
3/. zim
There’s so far one can go with all that NWO stuff until your head starts to spin. You cannot stay with the illuminati material for too long without stumbling across the words zionism, is-ra-el and of course the infamous mossad and seeing how they are all involved in this whole conspiracy.
4/. Jew-wise
Some people are able to pretty much skip over stage 3 and go directly to this forth stage. They soon realise that in fact behind all these labels – “it’s the Jews”. So much so that most of us eventually drop the term zionism when describing this agenda. Sure we’re aware to an extent it ain’t ALL the Jews conspiring against us gullible goy, but more the elite Jews and those that serve the elite, both Gentile and Jew.
5/. A virus behind a people
The mind-control virus of judaism. That essentially is what all this is about. Both Jews and Gentiles – that means everyone on this planet is directly or indirectly effected by this virus. It penetrates and encapsulates every soul, animal and living organism on this planet. So rather than focus too intensely on “The Jews”, we should look at the mind control system which drives them and in turn infects us.
6/. The Force
So here we are at the end of the line. Phew wot a long strenuous painful journey that was. Even though we heard about this force at the beginning of our journey. Even though many of us had been told about it as a child and read all about it. It’s one of those things unless you ‘get it’ you never really ‘get it’.
The Christians have a name for this force, they call it satan. Likewise do the Muslims, their name for it is iblis/shaytan. In Arabic it is shaitan. And as we delve into all the other philosophies there are constant references to this dark side. The yang side. The dark entities/energy. The opposing forces. This is after all what we discover early on in the NWO material within the masonic references and symbology, of course that being cabalistic by source.
So in conclusion this dark force is the energy which is behind judaism, which is the force which drives ‘the Jews’ to carry out their actions, who are behind the NWO/Illuminati, which are conduits behind all this government and social corruption.
That’s it – it is as simplistic, yet complex as that.
Our lives are 100% spiritual. Our individual journeys, choices, experiences, encounters, companions, arguments, highs n lows. They are all ultimately opportunities. Every minute part of our life. Opportunities to ‘get it’. To lean towards the light or lean towards the dark side. The classic yin yang.
Even the mundane experiences of things like shopping. Is it more convenient to shop in a major corporation supermarket every week than support local shops? Is it easier and hassle free if we just play neutral/passive and not do our bit to stand up for our brothers n sisters who are being suppressed and slaughtered in far distant lands? Do we cowardly turn away when we can see blatant corruption and insane Orwelian legislation around us – as long as it doesn’t effect us too much we won’t get involved?!
This is where all this digging, all this reading about conspiracies, all these youtube videos, seminars, documentaries and endless browsing ultimately takes us.
All this researching, browsing and absorbing of information if we are honest is really only procrastination. And procrastination is a form of fear. Putting off facing the music. Putting off facing who we are.
Who are we really?
Behind our status, our kudos, our image, our identity and our ego.
This is the fork in the road many of us now find ourselves at. Facing our fears and the ultimate question -
“What am I going to do about it?”
Only you can answer this. You realise that it is irrelevant what your best mate is doing or not doing. It doesn’t matter what some expert is advising, or what you read on a website somewhere. It all comes down to where YOU are right now with your values, your spirituality, your inner voice.
Some may say, “Well that’s all right for you Digger philosophizing in your comfortable environment. You’re not being bombed or shot at.” This is partly true, (although I do have the letters of bailiffs threatening me, debts and hardly any work), but it’s because I’m in this detached position that I’m able to listen to what others have informed us and warned us about throughout history. The great mystics, the prophets, the wise men throughout the ages. Of this negative dark force.
One path is taking the proactive position – sharing this stuff consistently regularly, in every way you can and using every talent and skill you have, with the resources you have. As well as resisting this force at some level.
The other path is just being passive/neutral with all of this information. Just being an observer, a spectator. Seeing how things will pan out (then I’ll do something). Being compliant subservient to this this dark force.
Ultimately you know in your heart exactly what you SHOULD do. Although you may be influenced here n there, that you know precisely what the right thing to do is. There is no third option, no third path, no turning back either.
You know you have to follow the truth, lean towards the light and trust consciousness to help you face your fears. Not be fearless, as this is being reckless and dangerous, but just gradually begin to look fear in the eyes. It is about being honest and realistic. This not about playing hero (ego). This is just being the true character you are and not the moulded fearful individual this force has formed you into.
This is the time for us to embrace this spirituality, because this is ultimately where all this information and knowledge takes us to. Our true selves. Be proud of yourselves having reached this point and have the faith within to take the righteous path.
keehah
8th April 2012, 04:05 AM
From TheOneTruth Forum:
Seeing the problem, is seeing the solution! (http://jandeane81.com/showthread.php?178-Seeing-the-problem-is-seeing-the-solution!&)
This is the picture as I see it.
There are two forces at work in this universe: good and evil, or rather ,beneficial and non-beneficial.
We can see these work within ourselves: we can have a good heart or a bad heart.
A good heart is all about others, and a bad heart is all about me.
However, the apparently non-beneficial can be beneficial - if viewed in the right way!
The non-beneficial is a mistaken, limited view (a dream) of who and where we are.
The beneficial is a truthful, limitless view (awakened) knowing who we are and where we are.
Here, we cannot make assumptions about ourselves: we have to be honest.
These two forces work on an external, internal and innermost level and depend on our clarity (or lack of it).
What is needed is a clarity in the seeing, with an open mind.
The enlightened beings are attracted to our open mind and heart, whereas the un-enlightened beings are attracted to our closed minds and hearts...created by our emotions!
Let's see how this could work.
Here is a diagram: (the dotted line represents 'viewing')
CUP---EYE---MIND---ESSENCE.
As we can see, if the senses are clear, and the mind is clear and the essence is clear, we have pure perception = absolute reality!
So what has gone 'wrong'?
Here is our usual view:
CUP---EYE---££$$**mind**@??!!---ESSENCE.
The mind is now not clear =relative reality!
Perception is no longer pure.
What happened in the second case is that our pure view from essence has gone unnoticed, because our attention is now taken up with thoughts and emotions about ourself and outer phenomena, This produces likes and dislikes. We have been ambushed by an idea of “me” and “mine”.
This is how we are as sentient beings. The mind looks out and relates to the world through the thoughts in the mind...we have forgotten our true nature.
This obstruction in the mind is what can be termed “bad”, or “selfish”, or “non-beneficial” or..ignorance!
It is through meditation that the mind can start looking inwards and realise its true nature.
Note: Meditation is actually the practice of investigating what and how things are in the mind, and not merely reading it from a book...
That is what spiritual work is all about.
We are spiritual beings: we are beyond this temporary mind and body, but we have learnt or acquired an identity clinging to this mind and body.
Being told this does not actually help the situation - we have to do some looking ourselves.
Enlightened beings send out blessings to all sentient beings, but it is only spiritual practitioners that have their door open, even just slightly.
We are all spiritual practitioners of some sort: we all get feelings, but if they are not recognised, they are just a temporary event, and we soon fall into our same old ways.
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En-darkened beings also send out blessings, and feed off the emotions of sentient beings.
We are sentient because the picture of our universe is...'It's All about ME'.
The elite of this world know about our selfishness - our self-centred, self-obsessed ways – and they utilise them. They feed us the dream...or nightmare...and we are enslaved! This is what is happening in the world: none of the thoughts in our heads are ours!
This illusory mind takes over our perception.
There is a pyramid system of information in this world that is creating an illusion about our true existence or reality. Each layer of the pyramid does not know what is going on above. This is how the planet is controlled. The few control the many - through ideas.
We have a double illusion: one of our own making, and the other from utilising our self-cherishing behaviour...'It's ALL about ME”. No it's not! It's also about what 'they' want you to believe.
They infiltrate every section of society, creating divisions, misdirecting and building even stronger egos (clinging out of fear), until we think we know what it's all about...?!
And so these evil forces delude us in the physical world, the mental world and the spiritual world.
To me, the spiritual world is the key.
To get people to hate it (I still think I am in charge of my life)
or love it (become fixatedly religious)
or (even more insidious), to see that there is no problem to be addressed because we are gods (which produces indifference and inactivity as there is nothing to investigate or practise).
Remember: there are three poisons in the universe - repulsion, attraction and indifference.
These governs everything.
They control us by making us re-act! If you re-act (get involved) then you are not free: your mind has been infected. We actually know this, but cannot see it clearly.
In truth, these same poisons have another quality that changes everything to enlightened qualities...but 'they' do not want you to investigate this, as to understand this would mean you were free.
As always it's up to us.
In this deceptive world...we have to watch out for trivia!
millwright
8th April 2012, 04:34 AM
The FedEx guy stopped to drop off a delivery this week and pointed at the 2008 Ron Paul bumper sticker on my truck and says "I told my wife I'm seeing more Ron Paul bumper stickers than any others". He said she asked him why wasn't Paul doing better if it seems so many people are liking him? He says he told her that he was being cheated. I asked him did he think the electronic voting was rigged and he says "sure do". I told him "me too".
Two days later I'm waiting in a fast food lane waiting on my order when this fella comes out and says "I voted for old Ron last time but it didn't do any good". Took me a sec, I was in the wife's car and she also has a Ron Paul bumper sticker. I asked him what about this year and he says he can only vote and hope. My county only had 16 votes (?) for Ron Paul in the 2008 primaries. I've never had anyone mention Ron Paul to me before unless they knew me. Just an observation...
Yup. I have found that by far the easiest way to gage someones intelligence, ( thus thier ability to reason) is to simply mention Ron Paul. Fu*k all the other bs.
lapis
14th April 2012, 10:24 AM
I have a friend who was laid off from a corporate job in October. Up until then, she was very busy working and trying to raise three children. She wanted to be a stay-at-home mother, but her partner kept getting laid off for long periods of time. Now he is working again so financially they are more stable, and it's interesting because on her own she has been looking into the problems of debt, fiat currency, Ron Paul and what to do when the SHTF. I hadn't said very much to her about these things as I'd hinted about it in the past and she didn't seem receptive to this information at all.
The PTB better find out some other trick to keep the economy going, because unemployed people have free time to start figuring things out on their own, and they become anti-dollar positive. ;-)
BrewTech
14th April 2012, 10:57 AM
I have a friend who was laid off from a corporate job in October. Up until then, she was very busy working and trying to raise three children. She wanted to be a stay-at-home mother, but her partner kept getting laid off for long periods of time. Now he is working again so financially they are more stable, and it's interesting because on her own she has been looking into the problems of debt, fiat currency, Ron Paul and what to do when the SHTF. I hadn't said very much to her about these things as I'd hinted about it in the past and she didn't seem receptive to this information at all.
The PTB better find out some other trick to keep the economy going, because unemployed people have free time to start figuring things out on their own, and they become anti-dollar positive. ;-)
People hopefully will begin to realize that with every downside, there is an upside. Most people are too damn busy most of the time to pay attention. While being unemployed sucks, it does give folks a chance to stop and reflect how they got there. Plenty of information available, if we work to provide it.
One door closes, another opens. I'm currently trying to navigate this path.
lapis
14th April 2012, 12:02 PM
One door closes, another opens. I'm currently trying to navigate this path.
That's a good way of looking at it. While change can be scary at first, I find it interesting that events that seemed horribly catastrophic in my life turn out to work out for the best in the end.
I was listening to a Clif High podcast the other night and he said that (I'm paraphrasing) his life improved a lot when he stopped looking for jobs and instead started looking for work. I wish you luck on you new path!
Sparky
28th April 2012, 09:04 PM
Today at the grocery store, the guy stocking lettuce was explaining the U.S. $15 trillion debt to a middle-aged female customer. Awesome.
D sciple
29th April 2012, 12:03 AM
I just discovered 4chan, :), and have to say, there is quite a lot of J team bashing going on there.
gunDriller
29th April 2012, 02:02 AM
I just discovered 4chan, :), and have to say, there is quite a lot of J team bashing going on there.
http://boards.4chan.org/int/1
the 4chan "international" section.
Sparky
6th September 2012, 02:40 PM
I made the mistake of watching a little of the Clinton speech from the DNC last night, and saw some partisan comments on evil Facebook. It made me want to tell people (scream at them, really) to liberate themselves from the manipulation that goes on. I do think people are gradually waking up, but people who are still blindly committed to the Dem/Rep dogfight are just totally lost. I have some friends who have emerged from that ignorance, but I still have other friends on both sides of the D/R aisle who continue to waste energy passionately defending their party.
Even though some of you are crazy (;)), I'm grateful for an audience here at GSUS that is willing to listen and think, and can see the deception and misdirection that goes on at such a grand scale. I don't agree with everything here, but during those frustrating moments when you want to scream at the masses, there's some comfort knowing that this group of liberated thinkers exists. :)
zap
6th September 2012, 02:49 PM
I watched about 10 minutes of old Billy boy, he's probably the best liar I have seen, when the camera panned to the crowd I couldn't believe what I saw in their faces, they seemed mesmerized, hypnotized, super smiley, it was really scary!
Sparky
6th September 2012, 02:53 PM
I know, zap, that's the scary part. They look totally under his spell.
Horn
6th September 2012, 05:00 PM
Is this Fidel's son, or Hitero numero dos?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSvEOEB7UW0
PatColo
20th September 2012, 08:59 PM
Vinny Eastwood (http://www.thevinnyeastwoodshow.com/) tells James Corbett (http://corbettreport.com/) about his waking up during this 45 min podcast:
Corbett Report Radio 2012.09.19 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2012/09/corbett-report-radio-20120919.html)
http://www.corbettreport.com/images/eastwoodsquare.jpg (http://www.corbettreport.com/images/eastwoodsquare.jpg)
Spotlight: New Zealand with Vinny Eastwood
They don’t call it a New WORLD Order for nothing. Tonight on the program we travel around the globe to New Zealand to talk with local alternative media personality Vinny Eastwood of thevinnyeastwoodshow.com (http://www.thevinnyeastwoodshow.com/index.html) about activism, humor and defeating the NWO.
James site (http://www.corbettreport.com/radio/)
Download (http://www.corbettreport.com/mp3/crr221.mp3)
k-os
23rd September 2012, 05:57 PM
One of my friend's hubbies has just discovered The Rothchilds. Boy, is he on a tear now, researching all kinds of stuff. He's in the "very pissed off" stage. And now I have another person in real life that I can talk to about this stuff.
I know I planted seeds with this one. I can't say when or where, but over the course of knowing him, I've said some things that at one time made no sense to him, but is now starting to come together.
Yes, I am noticing some awakening. :)
singular_me
24th September 2012, 06:13 AM
From TheOneTruth Forum:
Seeing the problem, is seeing the solution! (http://jandeane81.com/showthread.php?178-Seeing-the-problem-is-seeing-the-solution!&)
This is the picture as I see it.
En-darkened beings also send out blessings, and feed off the emotions of sentient beings.
We are sentient because the picture of our universe is...'It's All about ME'.
The elite of this world know about our selfishness - our self-centred, self-obsessed ways – and they utilise them. They feed us the dream...or nightmare...and we are enslaved! This is what is happening in the world: none of the thoughts in our heads are ours!
This illusory mind takes over our perception.
There is a pyramid system of information in this world that is creating an illusion about our true existence or reality. Each layer of the pyramid does not know what is going on above. This is how the planet is controlled. The few control the many - through ideas.
We have a double illusion: one of our own making, and the other from utilising our self-cherishing behaviour...'It's ALL about ME”. No it's not! It's also about what 'they' want you to believe.
They infiltrate every section of society, creating divisions, misdirecting and building even stronger egos (clinging out of fear), until we think we know what it's all about...?!
And so these evil forces delude us in the physical world, the mental world and the spiritual world.
To me, the spiritual world is the key.
To get people to hate it (I still think I am in charge of my life)
or love it (become fixatedly religious)
or (even more insidious), to see that there is no problem to be addressed because we are gods (which produces indifference and inactivity as there is nothing to investigate or practise).
Remember: there are three poisons in the universe - repulsion, attraction and indifference.
These governs everything.
They control us by making us re-act! If you re-act (get involved) then you are not free: your mind has been infected. We actually know this, but cannot see it clearly.
In truth, these same poisons have another quality that changes everything to enlightened qualities...but 'they' do not want you to investigate this, as to understand this would mean you were free.
As always it's up to us.
In this deceptive world...we have to watch out for trivia!
Gosh I loved this point of view.... still depending about each of us to get rid of this illusory mind, nobody else can go into our head(s) to do the flush job.
Thanks keehah for also pointing at this 'one truth forum' , hope to see you there some time
k-os
26th September 2012, 04:32 PM
Whoa! While doing dishes, I was listening to the Joe Rogan Experience with Tait Fletcher as a guest. (I think he's an actor now, but he was an MMA fighter.) So the subject of the moment was Monsanto (the subjects meander a lot). Tait said "If you trust your government, you deserve to die." I erupted into laughter instantly, and decided to come to post it here.
While I was walking to the computer, Tait brings up the Rothchilds, and plainly explains why the supposed villains to the USA are just the foreign leaders that refuse to kowtow to the banking cartel.
These are not new topics for Joe, but this MMA fighter turned actor talking about these kinds of subjects . . . I think that's a sign of awakening.
PatColo
1st October 2012, 01:28 AM
Good 2 hour podcast here, with 2 truther-women! Guest "Orwell's Daughter" was a sheeple until '08, when her home value & retirement account both cratered, and that's when she began her journey down the rabbit hole, and (mostly youtube) activism.
In Praise of White Women (http://thewhitenetwork.com/2012/09/22/in-praise-of-white-women/) Published on September 22, 2012 (http://thewhitenetwork.com/2012/09/22/in-praise-of-white-women/) by Carolyn (http://thewhitenetwork.com/author/carolyn/) in Saturday Afternoon with Carolyn Yeager (http://thewhitenetwork.com/category/saturday-afternoon-with-carolyn-yeager/)
Sept. 22, 2012
http://thewhitenetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/white-women-300x223.jpg (http://thewhitenetwork.com/2012/09/22/in-praise-of-white-women/white-women/)Marina Orwell is a video-maker whose work (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vZZsGiLyDo&feature=relmfu) exhibits a fierceness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuldRCHNAYQ), a boldness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mCqBlYmnfc), along with a very personal tone. She approaches what she does as the scientist she is. Marina tells of how she “woke up,” the books that helped her, and what her very first videos were about. Other highlights include:
Her real life story of helping a homeless white man resulted in the video “In Praise of White Men (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDJW7mU7GiU);”
Her experiences with editing Wikipedia pages;
Her Youtube channel was flagged and brought down twice – she is currently without one;
The man/woman divide and what to do about it;
Real feminism is not Jewish, but comes from good White women (as in the picture);
How to deal creatively with the role differences between men and women;
Financial incentives to bring about the kind of society we desire.
Image: Sign in this picture used in IPOWM, Part 2 says: “A Fearless Indomitable Womanhood; A Fearless Indomitable Race.” William Rooney
Podcast: Download (http://thewhitenetwork.com/data/audio/tWn_Saturday_Afternoon_with_Carolyn_Yeager_2012092 2.mp3)
21 Comments (http://thewhitenetwork.com/2012/09/22/in-praise-of-white-women/#comments)
Libertarian_Guard
1st October 2012, 05:31 PM
One of my friend's hubbies has just discovered The Rothchilds. Boy, is he on a tear now, researching all kinds of stuff. He's in the "very pissed off" stage. And now I have another person in real life that I can talk to about this stuff.
I know I planted seeds with this one. I can't say when or where, but over the course of knowing him, I've said some things that at one time made no sense to him, but is now starting to come together.
Yes, I am noticing some awakening. :)
Quickly lend him your coppy of "The Creature from Jeykel Island"
His interest needs to be fed.
Sparky
4th February 2013, 07:49 PM
I was visiting someone in the hospital last week, and I got to talking to the attendant nurse. She was a woman about 50 years old or so. Someone in the room commented how things seem to be going off track. This was the essence of her response:
"I know what you mean. And I don't think it's getting any better. As a matter of fact, and I know this sounds bad, but sometimes I think that the best thing that could happen would be for the whole thing to fall apart. I know it would be difficult, but I think that's what is needed for everyone to change their attitude about what's going on around them. The whole system needs a restart."
osoab
5th February 2013, 08:05 AM
I was visiting someone in the hospital last week, and I got to talking to the attendant nurse. She was a woman about 50 years old or so. Someone in the room commented how things seem to be going off track. This was the essence of her response:
"I know what you mean. And I don't think it's getting any better. As a matter of fact, and I know this sounds bad, but sometimes I think that the best thing that could happen would be for the whole thing to fall apart. I know it would be difficult, but I think that's what is needed for everyone to change their attitude about what's going on around them. The whole system needs a restart."
The biggest question is what kind of restart?
Hatha Sunahara
5th February 2013, 09:40 AM
It needs a rebuild. Why restart something that no longer works. The rebuild should scrap the idea that money can be created with debt.
Hatha
EE_
5th February 2013, 10:08 AM
This would be a good start.
If one of the satellites gets hit, it could set off a chain reaction to take out all of them.
That would put a serious dent in the surveillance control grid. They would never be able to put another satellite in space again.
Close shave for Earth as asteroid is set to whizz by INSIDE orbit of communication satellitesSpace rock 150ft across set to whizz by just after Valentine's Day
It will miss our home planet by just 17,200 miles - close in cosmic terms
An impact would be equivalent to 2.25 megaton atom bomb
By Kate Bevan
PUBLISHED: 05:21 EST, 4 February 2013 | UPDATED: 13:56 EST, 4 February 2013
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..Planet Earth is set to have a very close encounter with an asteroid the day after Valentine's Day.
The asteroid - which goes by the catchy name of 2012 DA14 - will miss our home planet by just 17,200 miles, which is a very near miss in space terms.
The asteroid, which is about 150ft across, will come closer to Earth than the ring of geosynchronous satellites, which are in orbit about 22,200 miles above the Earth.
Space rock: Although it will come uncomfortably close to the Earth, the asteroid will only be visible if you have a good pair of binoculars
And this is just one of some 500,000 rocks circling the Earth.
The good news is that scientists say that that isn't enough to wipe out life on the planet - but it could wipe out a city the size of Greater London.
However, a miss is as good as a mile, and unless you're specifically looking for it, you almost certainly won't see the asteroid.
NASA says that it won't be bright enough to see with the naked eye, but that a good pair of binoculars or a telescope should be able to pick it out.
On the 15th, said NASA, the asteroid will travel rapidly from the southern evening sky into the northern morning sky, with its closest Earth approach occurring about 19:26 UTC when it will achieve a magnitude of less than seven, which is somewhat fainter than naked eye visibility.
About four minutes after its Earth close approach, there is a good chance it will pass into the Earth's shadow for about 18 minutes or so before reappearing from the eclipse.
When travelling rapidly into the northern morning sky, 2012 DA14 will quickly fade in brightness.
The best view for astronomers will be from Indonesia, says NASA, while stargazers in Eastern Europe, Asia and Australia should also be able to get a good look at the space rock as it whizzes past us at a speed of 17,400mph.
The asteroid was discovered only last year, by astronomers in southern Spain.
The team was operating from the La Sagra Sky Survey observatory near Granada in Spain. The observatory uses automated telescopes to track small asteroids and comets.
2012 DA14 was discovered after the astronomers decided to search areas of the sky where asteroids are not usually seen.
Its orbital period around the sun is very close to our own, at 368 days, and it has made a close approach every year.
This year's is the closest, say scientists - and the good news is that this is the closest it will get to Earth for at least three decades.
Dr Gerhard Drolshagen, a near-Earth object observer from the European Space Agency's Space Situational Awareness (SSA) office, said: 'In future times the possibility of a collision cannot be completely excluded. It is highly unlikely, but the chance is greater than zero.'
The asteroid's next very close shave with Earth will be in 2046, when it will squeak by us at a distance of 37,000 miles.
And there's another close encounter in 97 years' time, on February 16 2110, when the chance that it will hit the Earth is 1 in 7,692,308,000.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2273163/A-miss-good-mile--asteroid-close-shave.html#ixzz2K2j3hkuU
Sparky
5th February 2013, 11:54 AM
It needs a rebuild. Why restart something that no longer works. The rebuild should scrap the idea that money can be created with debt.
Hatha
A restart implies a rebuild. The restart precipitates from a global debt collapse. Then, with a clean slate, we start anew rather than trying to continually rescue our current system.
Sparky
5th October 2013, 11:00 PM
Today my daughter asked me how anyone can still trust the government. Then she told me that earlier this week she was thinking about how our money system doesn't really make any sense.
:)*#*
Serpo
6th October 2013, 03:47 AM
http://www.viewzone.com/dnax.html
mick silver
6th October 2013, 10:42 AM
i got up this morning
Cebu_4_2
6th October 2013, 02:50 PM
http://www.viewzone.com/dnax.html
That's a whole new rabbit hole to learn about!
Sparky
7th October 2013, 12:48 PM
Heard on the radio this morning during a discussion of the current government stalemate over Obamacare, budgets, and debt: "I used think those preppers were crazy. Now I think they may be onto something."
Serpo
7th October 2013, 01:04 PM
Everyones waking up and if not then thats some mighty powerful programming going on there.
osoab
7th October 2013, 04:03 PM
http://www.viewzone.com/dnax.html
This needs it's own thread.
Ponce
7th October 2013, 07:50 PM
The only awakening that I have seen around here is me, I just got up from taking a nap.
V
Horn
7th October 2013, 08:12 PM
The only awakening that I have seen around here is me, I just got up from taking a nap.
V
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Ponce
7th October 2013, 10:30 PM
Horn? stop sending me YOUR picture, you are not my style.
V
Serpo
7th October 2013, 10:48 PM
The only awakening that I have seen around here is me, I just got up from taking a nap.
V
we could hear you snoring.............
Hitch
15th October 2013, 09:09 PM
I've got to give credit to member VX1 and his avatar (which makes me chuckle every time I see it). If the conversation is right, and I can inject some humor, I explain this cartoon and usually get a laugh. I do this to sort of 'test' folks on their awareness, see if they laugh, and see if they turn to thought about it.
This simple cartoon plants the seed that the banking system is a joke and can go poof. Digits can go poof, and anyone who thinks hard about that, will ask the question, what can I do to prepare so if/when it happens....I can laugh about it, just like this cartoon.
5500
Sparky
16th October 2013, 12:05 AM
Hitcher, reminds me of this timeless South Park classic. "Aaaand.....it's gone."
http://vimeo.com/43762138
Sparky
31st January 2014, 09:43 PM
It's been two years since I started this thread. If you talk to people about things being "messed up", they now recognize it. Confidence in elected officials is at an all time low. The average person in the street is beginning to question the motives of government, media, and corporations. True that many remain blind, but there is also an allegiance growing amongst the awakened, even thought they do not still fully understand. The citizenry is slowly and silently splitting into two distinct groups.
Stop Making Cents
31st January 2014, 10:35 PM
[QUOTE=Sparky;688426]It's been two years since I started this thread. If you talk to people about things being "messed up", they now recognize it. Confidence in elected officials is at an all time low. The average person in the street is beginning to question the motives of government, media, and corporations. True that many remain blind, but there is also an allegiance growing amongst the awakened, even thought they do not still fully understand. The citizenry is slowly and silently splitting into two distinct groups.[/QUOT
Honestly most people waking up are white men. 99 percent of women are complete idiots who watch and absorb the propoganda spewed out by the boob tube. American idol and ellen degenerate are their newscasters.whites are in a real pickle.
Sparky
31st January 2014, 10:47 PM
Honestly most people waking up are white men. 99 percent of women are complete idiots who watch and absorb the propoganda spewed out by the boob tube. American idol and ellen degenerate are their newscasters.whites are in a real pickle.
Maybe there's some truth to that. But I was getting my hair cut last month by a woman in her 50s, and she was commenting to me about how terribly things are falling apart. She said she talks to people all day long, and what's really going on with real people is not reflected in how it's presented by the government or the media.
Sparky
31st January 2014, 10:48 PM
One other thing: Tuesday's State of the Union address had the smallest television viewing audience in 14 years.
Jewboo
31st January 2014, 11:25 PM
Honestly most people waking up are white men.
How the GOP lost Middle America
(http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/how-the-gop-lost-middle-america/) (http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/how-the-gop-lost-middle-america/)Pat Buchanan explains impact of Republican Party 'selling its soul to the multinationals' (http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/how-the-gop-lost-middle-america/)
:rolleyes: too late for White Men to "wake up" on this planet now...we're fucked
Hitch
31st January 2014, 11:38 PM
too late for White Men to "wake up" on this planet now...we're fucked
It's OK, brother. It's all good man. It's all good.
Ponce
1st February 2014, 01:35 AM
To know something and do nothing is worse than knowing something........ I feel sorry for those who new something and did nothing because of their economical situation.....how can you be a per hour employee with four kids and do anything about it?
The only reason that I feel that I am ready is because The Force is with me......but......"To be ready is not"
V
Spectrism
1st February 2014, 07:53 AM
I had to travel this past week. Going through the TSA feel-me-up check point, I was informing the agent that he was violating the law, my rights, and that he needed to get a new job. Some tall old broad, somewhat bedraggled looking, gave me a scorning look as if I was attacking her safety. She was old enough to know better but not so old to be senile. I felt waves of hate like I get from liberal humanist christian haters. The scowl was unmistakeable.
Waking up? Some are. But some are stupid by choice. I have a co-worker that is of that liberal socialist mindset. She talks about how high taxes are and then feels happy about paying into the wonderful system. These devil's ass-kissing fools want everyone else to be forced to kiss the devil's ass too. They get mad when I refuse to siddle up next to them and smooch away.
mick silver
1st February 2014, 07:58 AM
i hear people asking now who in dc looking out for them now . it a start how ever small
Sparky
1st February 2014, 11:30 AM
I had to travel this past week. Going through the TSA feel-me-up check point, I was informing the agent that he was violating the law, my rights, and that he needed to get a new job. Some tall old broad, somewhat bedraggled looking, gave me a scorning look as if I was attacking her safety. She was old enough to know better but not so old to be senile. I felt waves of hate like I get from liberal humanist christian haters. The scowl was unmistakeable.
...
It's very difficult for those whose livelihood depends on "the system", such as those TSA agents. Those people scowling at you most likely know you are right, but it's tough to walk away from a secure job in this economic environment. Life is hard. Most likely they were scowling at you because you were ridiculing them to their faces and in public, and not because you were wrong.
Cebu_4_2
1st February 2014, 12:09 PM
They say the people working for TSA have the lowest morale of any government jobs.
BrewTech
1st February 2014, 12:33 PM
They say the people working for TSA have the lowest morale of any government jobs.
That's because they are at least smart enough to know that 99% of the people they encounter every day resent and dislike them.
Ponce
1st February 2014, 04:35 PM
If you were to wake up to what is really happening ....... your nightmare would then begin...safer will you feel as long as you are asleep.
V
Sparky
1st February 2014, 05:05 PM
If you were to wake up to what is really happening ....... your nightmare would then begin...safer will you feel as long as you are asleep.
V
Ponce, I cannot imagine that you would choose to become blind to what you know that lies ahead. You would rather fight the fight than live in the false safety of ignorance. Am I correct?
Stop Making Cents
1st February 2014, 06:11 PM
If you were to wake up to what is really happening ....... your nightmare would then begin...safer will you feel as long as you are asleep.
V
I have to agree with this. Seeing the impending doom of the white race and being helpless to stop it is an unbearable burden. Wish i just didnt know any better.
nunaem
1st February 2014, 07:13 PM
I have to agree with this. Seeing the impending doom of the white race and being helpless to stop it is an unbearable burden. Wish i just didnt know any better.
The problem is your ingroup is too large and includes self-hating whites. Reduce your ingroup to whites with half a brain and you'll feel better. Then you can be glad that outgroup (enemy) whites are collectively committing suicide.
hoarder
1st February 2014, 07:58 PM
The problem is your ingroup is too large and includes self-hating whites. Reduce your ingroup to whites with half a brain and you'll feel better. Then you can be glad that outgroup (enemy) whites are collectively committing suicide."Self-Hating Whites" are not the enemy, they are brethren who have not yet been awakened.
nunaem
1st February 2014, 08:07 PM
"Self-Hating Whites" are not the enemy, they are brethren who have not yet been awakened.
They are awakened all the time, and they go right back to sleep.
old steel
1st February 2014, 09:42 PM
Caught a few today who were at the gun show. I walked out with an awesome Winchester 94 in .44magnum. Nobody even paid me no mind and when i exited the building i held the rife high in both hands and yelled, FREEDOM!
Bunch of guys walking up to me chuckling and one says, hey, you just gotta love Alberta.
hoarder
2nd February 2014, 06:31 AM
They are awakened all the time, and they go right back to sleep.That's where repetition comes in.
Hitch
2nd February 2014, 08:30 AM
Caught a few today who were at the gun show. I walked out with an awesome Winchester 94 in .44magnum. Nobody even paid me no mind and when i exited the building i held the rife high in both hands and yelled, FREEDOM!
Bunch of guys walking up to me chuckling and one says, hey, you just gotta love Alberta.
Awesome man. One of those moments in life you will always keep with you, look back and smile.
PatColo
9th April 2014, 04:22 AM
The Lessons of 9/11 (http://www.zengardner.com/lessons-911/)
9/11 (http://www.zengardner.com/category/911/)
The Awakening (http://www.zengardner.com/category/the-awakening/)
by Julius Sequerra (http://www.zengardner.com/author/julius/) - Apr 2, 20142 123
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from Julius Sequerra
Contributor
TheRebel
(http://therebel.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=757279:the-lessons-of-9-11&catid=136:editorial&Itemid=2600)
I still vividly remember every single detail of that fateful day, the horrifying pictures on CNN, the things I did and the conversations I had. The first thing that came to my head back then was that this attack changes everything. Little did I know to what extent it would.
Once I got over the initial shock caused by the magnitude of the attacks and my brain started functioning again, I couldn’t help but notice how the 9/11 attacks were being used by the Americans to pursue a seemingly senseless brutal neo-colonialist strategy in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere. I also noticed how the Israelis were jumping on the bandwagon to justify their unjustifiable, merciless treatment of the Palestinians.
Looking for answers, I soon discovered that 9/11 wasn’t what it was made out to be by governments and media. What convinced me immediately was a combination of expert opinions, such as those of architects and pilots for 9/11 truth, and common sense.
Lesson 1: You cannot believe any information coming from the establishment
This discovery opened a Pandora’s box. If the establishment was capable of lying on such an epic scale as about 9/11, I started wondering, what else did they lie about? The post-9/11 focus on the Middle East soon made me curious to know what could have motivated a humble, intelligent, and educated man like the Iranian President to question the ‘Jewish Holocaust’? He didn’t exactly come across like a ‘neo-Nazi’ and appeared far less crazy than – for argument’s sake – George W. Bush or Dick Cheney. Most importantly, after 9/11, the suggestion that we might have been lied to about the supposed industrial-scale slaughter of six million Jews by ‘Nazi Germany’ suddenly no longer seemed so ridiculous any more.
Lesson 2: The truth is out there
So I started my research on the Internet and in bookstores, and what I found truly horrified me. My worst fears got confirmed. Surprisingly for me, I didn’t need to look for very long. The truth is all out there, in spite of many attempts by Israel and Western governments to keep a lid on it; I just needed to know what to look for. Our ruling crime families are handicapped by their need to preserve the illusion of being free societies and democracies, so there is only so much they can do to suppress the truth.
What immediately convinced me that the official Jewish Holocaust story must be just another big, fat lie was that people like Ernst Zündel, Germar Rudolf, Fredrick Töben and Jürgen Graf were not allowed to defend themselves by providing evidence for the claims that got them arrested. It was all the proof I needed to know that it’s not a case of historic truth being defended against vicious lies, but the other way round. Everything I’ve learned ever since about the topic only confirmed what I first thought.
Lesson 3: Not everyone is interested in knowing the truth
The next lesson for me was probably the most frustrating one. When I found out the truth about 9/11, I felt that everyone else needed to know. I quickly discovered that not everyone is interested in the truth, no matter how important. In fact, most people no longer wanted to be seen as friendly with me as soon as they found out about my ‘heretic’ views. They didn’t want to be suspected of harbouring similar thoughts.
Lesson 4: Speaking the truth is career suicide
This leads me to an even bigger problem ‘truthers’ are often confronted with. What many of us have discovered the hard way is that it’s not easy to keep your job, leave alone find a new one, if you are known as a ‘conspiracy theorist’. There must be a blacklist that all recruitment agencies and major HR companies are sharing. I suspect it’s a feature of their software packages.
Lesson 5: Money is not everything
Once I had escaped from the rat race, not quite voluntarily, I learned another important lesson. Money is not everything; other things are far more important than it. Health is obviously a major one, and so is having time to care for family and friends. But the one thing that soon became my single most important priority, is what kind of world I leave behind for my children and grandchildren.
Lesson 6: 9/11 truth is just the beginning
Given the fact that 9/11 is just one out of an endless chain of ‘elite’ conspiracies, spreading the truth on this fateful event can only be the beginning. WWII, Adolf Hitler, the Jewish Holocaust, Global Warming, Fractional Reserve Banking, Debt-Based Currency, London 7/7, Vaccinations, Cancer, Geo-Engineering, Genetic Engineering and the list goes on and on.
Lesson 7: We live in a world run by monsters
The closer we look, the clearer this lesson becomes. We live in a world run by monsters, mild-mannered mass-murderers and soft-spoken psychopaths. And unfortunately, large parts of the middle class are so obsessed with preserving their “house nigger” privileges that they have no qualms about prostituting themselves and pimping for them.
Lesson 8: Life is too short to waste it on trivial activities
The first thing I did after realising the truth about 9/11 was to sell my television. I was so upset about how this device was being used to constantly lie to us. What is more, my time had become far too valuable to waste it on trivial activities such as watching soap operas and Hollywood movies, and there is no point getting constantly angry about all their lies. I would rather spend every spare minute spreading the truth and inspire people to join the global resistance.
Lesson 9: Resistance it our duty
Another lesson that I’m increasingly conscious of is our duty to resist. Not only do we owe this to our children and grandchildren, we owe it to our ancestors too. Considering the sacrifices they made in their life for our future, the least we owe them is to do the same for the sake of our kids. This is particularly true for all those of us who lost family in the fight against Communism. It would break my heart if all their sacrifices had been in vain.
Lesson 10: There is hope
There is a global awakening happening. More and more people are becoming conscious of the truth. Middle class is key to all societal change. The big mistake our ruling crime families have made in their greed is to try to eliminate us from the gravy train. Now middle class is beginning to say that the ‘elite’ has gone too far. We are no longer putting up with your crimes. There is a revolution in the making, and the French Revolution – in comparison – will look like a walk in the park.
MORE (comments)>> (http://therebel.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=757279:the-lessons-of-9-11&catid=136:editorial&Itemid=2600)
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Serpo
9th April 2014, 04:45 AM
quote .......I quickly discovered that not everyone is interested in the truth, no matter how important
isnt that they truth........
I have a mean thirst for the truth because after realizing I had been fed a bunch of lies my whole life it made me as mad as hell until a fire burnt inside of me and it has never gone out.
The hardest part is to see all the lies we have been fed and realize they are lies and not even half truths.But once this has been seen then all a person wants is to know the truth in anything and everything.
It is so much easier to see the lies now days that it seems comical that anyone still believes in the BS.But they do.Their numbers are getting smaller however ,until it reaches critical mass...............and then its all over,,,,,for tptb.
They are coming apart at the seams and it is something Im going to relish watching because the power of truth in peoples minds is going to destroy the old world disorder para-gram.
This is from the power of our own minds/consciousness and it is how we the people can cast these dark cretins back down into the black pit of filth from whence they crawled because now they are being exposed to the light of day and the light burns them.
PatColo
9th April 2014, 05:11 AM
this John Wells guy made an interesting observation about how Clear Channel is something like $20B in debt yet keeps operating; implication being that they're an arm of the state. I've always suspected this of all the major joozmedia propaganda outlets. Boycott their sponsors, turn them off until the cows come home; they'll magically keep broadcasting their lies (on the taxpayers' dime...). I'm afraid this is how "they" will keep "us" feeling isolated in our truthy-views, no matter what the real awake % of the population is. We'll self-censor regardless, afraid of being shunned, etc. Same goes for pre-fake-"election" polls administered by the JSM; as fake polling #s can make the fake "election" outcomes more plausible in the public eye. 1 hr, 2nd hr for subscribers only:
John B. Wells - Hour 1 - Corporate Media, Globalists & Putin’s Russia (http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2014/04/RIR-140407.php)
April 7, 2014
John B. Wells is the host of the radio show, Caravan to Midnight. He is an actor, musician, writer, investigative journalist, composer, martial artist, aviator and broadcaster. John also performed weekend duties as the host of the nationally syndicated overnight radio show Coast to Coast AM. We’ll begin the hour with John discussing his recent exit from Coast to Coast AM and monster corporate media outlets such as Clear Channel.
For some radio programs, the only thing safe to talk about is that which can’t be proven. John talks about how information is being used as a weapon. Then, we’ll talk about how patriotic, pro-US Constitution Americans are being marked as a threat while the nation tumbles into the ultimate sacrifice for the “common good.” John explains how globalists are making the world into one giant country for nefarious reasons. Later, we discuss how mainstream media, although tanking in numbers and credibility with the public, is still able to stay on.
In the second hour, John shares his views on Russia and Putin. Is Putin possibly seeking revenge for Wall Street bankers who funded the Bolshevik Revolution that killed millions of Russians? We’ll also talk about the mysterious Obama who has many names. Is his father the communist activist Frank Marshall Davis? Later, we discuss how the powers that be need division between the races and continue to use slavery as a weapon.
http://www.redicecreations.com/img/radiodownloadbutton.png (http://rediceradio.net/radio/2014/RIR-140407-johnbwells-hr1.mp3)
Spectrism
9th April 2014, 05:36 AM
That makes sense. They cannot allow their propaganda machine to die so they will keep it on life support... just like the banks and the stock market.
Some of you are sounding like christians... lovers of the truth.
Pro 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.
Pro 12:19 The lip of truth shall be established for ever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment.
Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
gunDriller
9th April 2014, 07:26 AM
it's hard to tell about awakening because many, perhaps most, people who have learned to question authority have also learned to keep their cards close to their chest.
it's not like people are generally going to walk around with a T-shirt that says, "the Holocaust is a Hoax - Did you know ?"
perhaps part of the trick is to just identify yourself in public, so that other awaking people can find you.
as it is TPTB have put in place a very successful 'divide and conquer' strategy.
it's not that there's not a lot of people questioning authority, it's that they are largely divided up.
e.g. a husband will be awaking, but his wife doesn't like the subject. so he learns to keep his mouth shut.
or vice versa.
MNeagle
9th April 2014, 09:29 AM
Wow, post 155 should have it's own thread Pat. Very good!!
Buddha
9th April 2014, 04:06 PM
Only awakening I've noticed is in my mother. I've been telling her to buy gold since the GIM days, since she is retired and worried about money, she'd rather go to H&R Block... About a year ago, she was on this "What if the economy collapses?" kick... after 4 or 5 years she finally started "getting" it.
I remember when I moved back in for a couple months 3 or so years ago I was drunk and going on and on about how our government is killing the middle east with depeated uranium shells, the bullets and every thing "Do you think that a government that would do that cares about you?, The entire country of Iraq will be a cancer incubator for centuries! and you think they give a fuck about your money?! They want you to die so you don't collect social security, THEY WANT YOU TO GET CANCER!!! Why do you think our water has flouide, our drinks have HFC and aspartimine, and our food has HGMs and bromine and all kinds of shit! It's a CULT of DEATH!"
Still can't live that one down lol.
singular_me
9th April 2014, 07:07 PM
Not answering Spectrism... but his statement
I'd would agree with all that but the problem is that Truth can be observed from eirther side of the fence.... hence evil/good have their own pitfalls... HENCE our PLANETARY mess... the NWO is playing with dualities at will... with no end in sight.
The Truth will prevail and be conquered by people who can jump on either fences (flexibility of the mind) while remaining centered. People who stick to their own side of the fence will be continiue to enslaved.
That makes sense. They cannot allow their propaganda machine to die so they will keep it on life support... just like the banks and the stock market.
Some of you are sounding like christians... lovers of the truth.
PatColo
25th April 2014, 04:44 PM
What sucks is,
you can lead them to the sunglasses,
http://i.imgur.com/viTCzIq.gif
but you can't make them put them on! :cool:
make a great avatar; but I don't think you can resize an animated .gif the same as normal images! :|~
PatColo
18th August 2014, 11:56 PM
Charles Giuliani has a good rant at the opening of this show, about how he's been shunned at his main coffeeshop after pointing a seemingly aware & rational regular there, to his radio show! :o
Truth Hertz with Charles Giuliani 2014.08.18 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/08/truth-hertz-with-charles-giuliani_18.html)
For half of the show Charles talks about the blowback which occurs when red pill folks try to wake up the blue pill ones. In the second half, he talks about the history of Zionist terrorism leading up to the creation of Israel. (No callers)
Download (http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/48vy1myn74/Truth_Hertz_with_Charles_Giuliani_2014.08.18.mp3)
PatColo
13th September 2014, 12:38 PM
joycamp on red ice radio - their YT channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/thejoycamp
Joycamp: Benny Wills & Kevin Kostelnik - Hour 1 - Taking Culture Back & Reversing the Spell of Entertainment Brainwashing (http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2014/09/RIR-140912.php)
September 12, 2014
Kevin Kostelnik and Benny Wills are the creators of Joycamp, a group of satirists specializing in raw satire that tears down the social norms. They term what they do "comedy awareness." We’ll discuss the power of comedy to break down barriers. Then, we’ll talk about reversing the spell of the entertainment industry and taking culture back. Also, Benny and Kevin discuss Hollywood’s silence on the genocide of Palestinians and how those that do speak out against Israel are blacklisted. We’ll talk about the politically correct side of comedy and subjects that are taboo, such as Hitler. Later, we speak about the onslaught of holocaust movie programming.
In the member’s hour, Benny and Kevin continue to share their reactions to the documentary Greatest Story Never Told. We’ll move on to discuss overcoming self censorship and a lifetime of social conditioning. At the end, we’ll talk about modern comedy and comedians that are being used as a weapon.
http://www.redicecreations.com/img/radiodownloadbutton.png (http://rediceradio.net/radio/2014/RIR-140912-joycamp-hr1.mp3)
Horn
16th September 2014, 08:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-r-V0uK4u0
expat4ever
17th September 2014, 04:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_2kjISuHJo Joe and friends nail it pretty well
Sparky
2nd October 2014, 11:24 PM
The Center for Disease Control (CDC) is telling everyone that the Texas Ebola case is isolated and contained with no chance of spreading, and nobody believes them. No one will be surprised when additional cases are revealed.
See, now that's some progress on the awakening front.
Horn
2nd October 2014, 11:36 PM
The Center for Disease Control (CDC) is telling everyone that the Texas Ebola case is isolated and contained with no chance of spreading, and nobody believes them. No one will be surprised when additional cases are revealed.
See, now that's some progress on the awakening front.
The eternal Apocaloptimist, mankind awakes to cellular hemorrhaging.
PatColo
18th October 2014, 08:23 PM
James Tracy:
October 15, 2014 (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/10/15/confronting-battered-citizen-syndrome/)
Confronting Battered Citizen Syndrome (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/10/15/confronting-battered-citizen-syndrome/) 60 (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/10/15/confronting-battered-citizen-syndrome/#comments) Home (http://memoryholeblog.com/category/home/) • Tags: mind control (http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/mind-control/), propaganda (http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/propaganda/), terrorism (http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/terrorism/), war on terror (http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/war-on-terror/)
https://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/cycle_of_violence.jpg?w=474 (https://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/cycle_of_violence.jpg)
By James F. Tracy
State-sponsored terrorism poses a significant challenge to the psychological well-being of the body politic. While evident in many geopolitical locales, this condition arising from such government abuses is especially prevalent in the West. Such a disorder is comparable to the psychological manipulation recognized on a micro-level in some spousal relationships.
More… (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/10/15/confronting-battered-citizen-syndrome/#more-12610)
Serpo
18th October 2014, 08:28 PM
Confronting Battered Citizen Syndrome............haha
Ponce
18th October 2014, 09:01 PM
While most people are keeping an eye at the front door they don't see what is sneaking in by way of the back door......
V
PatColo
23rd October 2014, 02:06 PM
I was prompted to dig up this "round table discussion" from this recent Rense interview with regular guest Jim Kirwan.
Jeff Rense Radio Show - 2014.10.21 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/10/jeff-rense-radio-show-20141021.html)
Listen (http://www.talkshoe.com/resources/talkshoe/images/swf/lastEpisodePlayer.swf?fileUrl=http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/mt0kb157fp/Rense.20141021.3of3.mp3) Download (http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/mt0kb157fp/Rense.20141021.3of3.mp3) Hour 3 - Jim Kirwan (http://www.kirwanesque.net/) - A Conversation
JK touts how great this following is, near the middle of the Rense podcast ^ (~20 min area).
The BFP Roundtable Asks Why People Believe Stupid Things (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umqbBHq2Uzs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umqbBHq2Uzs
The BFP Roundtable Asks Why People Believe Stupid Things
https://yt3.ggpht.com/-QRcoJ0HHB5k/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/nQiBwtWkq5g/s88-c-k-no/photo.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdHZela1qTNM9iIw2YxenIw)boilingfrogspost (http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdHZela1qTNM9iIw2YxenIw)
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Published on Mar 3, 2014
From the official story of 9/11 to the drug war narrative to Omidyar's hope and change, people allow themselves to believe the most transparent lies and propaganda. But why? On this edition of the BFP roundtable, James Corbett, Guillermo Jimenez and Sibel Edmonds ask (and attempt to answer) the question of why people believe stupid things.
Skip the first 5 mins which is fund-drive shite :p
Soon after that, Corbett's introductory remarks include a ref to 911, in the Limited-Hangout-LIHOP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout)ey sort of way (@ 7 min mark), which was disappointing. One explanation might be, he was being "kind" to co-host Sibel Edmonds, who continues to push a L-H-LIHOP 911-Half-Truth-LIE (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?23130-The-quot-Israel-did-9-11-quot-Thread)http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018.
anyways, after that puke-worthy bit around the 7 min mark, the rest of the show is pretty good. :)
I was reminded of FORMER 911-Truther Abby Martin, who earlier this year tried to distance herself from the full TWOOF of 911 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?79470-Are-you-afraid&p=731303&viewfull=1#post731303). :( Here's Abby & Sibel; notice the YT title which RT/BreakingTheSet chose to give it:
Government Allowed (@ 5m 30s) 9/11 | Interview with Sibel Edmonds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pTBJmWVXhA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pTBJmWVXhA
Oh, lastly, Sibel on the Boston Marathon Bombing HOAX (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Boston+Marathon+Bombing+HOAX) as SCARY CHECHEN BLOWBACK, Sibel Edmonds on the Boston Bombing: The US roots of "Chechen" terrorism. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RCN1w5J80E)
PatColo
16th February 2015, 05:18 PM
Monday, February 16, 2015
HOW AMERICA SCREWS UP THE WORLD WITHOUT EVER LETTING ITS PEOPLE KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING
(http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2015/02/america-screws-world-without-ever-letting-people-know-happening/) (http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2015/02/america-screws-world-without-ever-letting-people-know-happening/) (http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2015/02/america-screws-world-without-ever-letting-people-know-happening/)
(http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2015/02/america-screws-world-without-ever-letting-people-know-happening/) (http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2015/02/america-screws-world-without-ever-letting-people-know-happening/)
(http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2015/02/america-screws-world-without-ever-letting-people-know-happening/)http://www.dailyalternative.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/disinformation-650x330.jpg (http://www.dailyalternative.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/disinformation-650x330.jpg)
Americans, the broad mass of them, simply do not know what is happening in Ukraine or in Syria or in Palestine or in a score of other places under assault by America’s establishment, its de facto, ongoing, non-elected government. Those place names are mentioned of course, and regularly, and various interviews are conducted, and maps and charts are shown, but the careful listener or reader will see that none of what is offered is genuinely informative, all of it serving to build one pre-determined idea of events, many of the words resembling the kind of one-liners politicians repeat over and over in America’s literally content-free political campaigns. We see many bits and pieces of seeming information, but they are all just pieces taken from the same jig-saw puzzle, capable only of being assembled in one way.
Americans also have very little idea of the nature of the men who are the actors in these various places, America’s press and networks virtually never granting or soliciting the insights of foreign leaders and representatives not already toeing the American line. Thoughtful foreign leaders generally are only seen through brief images and highly-colored descriptions.
***Read full article here*** (http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2015/02/america-screws-world-without-ever-letting-people-know-happening/)
*Edward Bernays' "Propaganda" Theory Has Been Perfected (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/01/edward-bernays-propaganda-theory-has.html)
*Propaganda? What Propaganda? jew Media Monopoly vs. Alternative and Non-jew Media (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/11/propaganda-what-propaganda-jew-media.html)
*The Media is manufacturing your consent for war (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-media-is-manufacturing-your-consent.html)
*A Century of jewstream Media Lies (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/10/a-century-of-jewstream-media-lies.html)
*Who Controls America? (http://thezog.info/)
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Sparky
6th May 2015, 11:14 PM
On the Washington Journal (CSPAN) this morning, they were interviewing some military leader who was showing off the new facilities built in Virginia to train soldiers in urban warfare abroad. The first two people who called into the show commented to him that they were more concerned that the facility and training were being developed to fight U.S. citizens here domestically.
Jewboo
7th May 2015, 10:34 AM
We've been talking about sheeple at GIM/GSUS for years now. I gotta tell you, I see noticeable evidence that people are waking up. Five years ago, it seemed like 1 in 50 or 100 had a clue. Now it seems like 1 in 5 or 10, at least around these parts. The awareness level is greatly heightening. The politicians still have a stronghold, and there are likely some crisis moments ahead, but I think people are becoming quicker to recognize things for what they are, though they may not yet understand how to stop it, or prepare for it.
I've had many discussions with people who are dropping their partisan allegiance, and they know something is afoul. A close friend (liberal/democrat tendencies) recently mentioned he's lost trust in both sides and now recognizes that the government is squandering his tax money rather than using it to help society as he used to expect. He's starting to think that government perpetuates war. He mentioned he's concerned about his retirement money, and wonders if perhaps there is something to this idea of actually buying "gold rocks". He never would have said any of this five years ago.
Is anybody else noticing the tide turning?
http://www.crazytownblog.com/.a/6a012876c6c7fb970c0163012ad6af970d-800wi
Let's Audit that Jew Bank
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Let's all line up so Randy Paul can suck our circumcised dicks to become President in 2016
:rolleyes:
Sparky
26th May 2015, 05:40 PM
Front page headline story in today's Boston Globe:
Suspicion of US government reaches a new level in Texas (http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2015/05/25/divided-america-theories-military-takeover-texas-find-legitimacy-political-mainstream/KSScgClOewjIXXisqkF5IM/story.html)
EE_
26th May 2015, 06:08 PM
Front page headline story in today's Boston Globe:
Suspicion of US government reaches a new level in Texas (http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2015/05/25/divided-america-theories-military-takeover-texas-find-legitimacy-political-mainstream/KSScgClOewjIXXisqkF5IM/story.html)
Here's my idea for Texas...
Hire a group of military/ex-military to organize and train the gun owning citizens of Texas on how to protect their cities/state from an invasion. Convention centers could be used to speak to large groups of patriot citizens. Live training exercises could include how to actually patrol streets, cities and neighborhoods and how to defend them. Maybe issue/sell T-shirts for the public exercises. Red T-shirts could read "Texas Patriot Militia" so the rest of the public would know their purpose.
How do you think the government would like this?
palani
26th May 2015, 06:22 PM
they were more concerned that the facility and training were being developed to fight U.S. citizens here domestically.
Hire a group of military/ex-military to organize and train the gun owning citizens of Texas
Bizarro World ... or deja voo. The present crop of 'U.S. citizens' are a construct of Lincoln's (un)civil war while the 'gun owning citizens' of Texas would likely just as soon eliminate those same 'citizens' of the U.S. as they would defend against a Russian invasion.
Maybe if they made a sport of it and traded cards giving the stats of each of the contestant?
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EE_
26th May 2015, 06:31 PM
Bizarro World ... or deja voo. The present crop of 'U.S. citizens' are a construct of Lincoln's (un)civil war while the 'gun owning citizens' of Texas would likely just as soon eliminate those same 'citizens' of the U.S. as they would defend against a Russian invasion.
Maybe if they made a sport of it and traded cards giving the stats of each of the contestant?
How many people would show up for citizen defense training at a convention center, if it was advertised on the Rush Limbaugh show?
palani
26th May 2015, 06:35 PM
How many people would show up for citizen defense training at a convention center, if it was advertised on the Rush Limbaugh show?
Limbaugh wasn't around when the British marched on Concord.
Sparky
26th May 2015, 10:52 PM
Here's my idea for Texas...
Hire a group of military/ex-military to organize and train the gun owning citizens of Texas on how to protect their cities/state from an invasion. Convention centers could be used to speak to large groups of patriot citizens. Live training exercises could include how to actually patrol streets, cities and neighborhoods and how to defend them. Maybe issue/sell T-shirts for the public exercises. Red T-shirts could read "Texas Patriot Militia" so the rest of the public would know their purpose.
How do you think the government would like this?
Behind the scenes, and in a less structured manner, this is sort of what's already going on there. Per the title of this thread, you would not have seen this a decade ago. What's disturbing is that the headline story is accompanied by other articles describing paranoia as a mental disorder. The mainstream media, in reporting this undeniable situation, has to marginalize it as crazy. But the divide is widening, and the battle is now on. People are picking sides, and even those who don't buy into the extremism can still sense something's amiss.
PatColo
11th July 2015, 11:42 PM
Vinny is BACK! He took 1-2 months off, no new podcasts, had a msg up begging for donations... This is still in my listening queue, but description sounds worthwhile:
7/12/2015
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How To Get The Youth Involved In The Truth Movement With Dick Jokes & Fun, Vinny Eastwood on Revolution Radio Roundtable Hosted By GerrBear (http://www.thevinnyeastwoodshow.com/2015-vinny-on-other-shows/how-to-get-the-youth-involved-in-the-truth-movement-with-dick-jokes-fun-vinny-eastwood)
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The discussion about youth involvement in activism is rarely spoken of, namely because there basically isn't any!
It takes several decades on average of living under the New World Order system before seeing that there's anything wrong with it, this is primarily due to its slow setup which can only be observed with the retrospect that several years of life grants us.
This is not to say that no young people are involved in activism of the conspiracy realm, but the statistics on youtube rankings and almost all other forms of measurement point to the fact that under 25's represent less than 2% of total online participation in the conspiracy movement.
Other than the reasons of experience outlined earlier, there are a myriad of other factors involved,
For instance, having spent 100% of your life from birth surrounded by:
• TV that's full of intellectually vacant shows and news broadcasts that are absent from real journalism
• Smart Phones that can distract you from everyday life every second of the day
• Facebook & social media that reduces the amount of real face to face human communication
• Popular music devoid of any real meaning aside from get stoned, get drunk and mack bitches
• A decaying public schooling system that was never that great at creating free thinkers in the first place
And you've got a recipe for disastrous distraction from which escape is not impossible but extremely unlikely.
It is incumbent then on the alternative media to cultivate this youth market by using the things they are used to already in an attempt to attract their interest.
Firstly, more dick jokes!
Let's face it, news and information about your current enslavement and subsequent plans for your extermination can be pretty heavy and difficult to view unless there's an amusing penis reference to release the pressure every so often. (No Pun Intended)
Secondly, entertainment!
If kids and for that matter most adults are unable to focus or unwilling to care about anything of real consequence as a direct result of constant distraction, then it is incumbent on alternative media entities to make their broadcasts more FUN!
Infotainment is the news format of the future as people like Jon Stewart, John Oliver & Stephen Colbert have demonstrated time and time again, with huge audiences, big laughs AND important stories all bundled up together, it is a winning formula that anyone serious about youth involvement should be considering.
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Serpo
12th July 2015, 05:23 AM
Choice bro............(kiwi slang for ,,,,,,,,thats good bro)
Sparky
25th October 2015, 08:05 PM
Coming in at #1 on the list of Americans' 88 most-feared items is government corruption. There is now without question an awakening going on, even if the sleepers are still in the majority.
https://blogs.chapman.edu/wilkinson/2015/10/13/americas-top-fears-2015/
This entry in the Comments section sums it up beautifully:
I'm 70 years old and have no political party ties. When I was in my youth, if you told me that the biggest fear the average American Citizen would have is of our own elected government I would walk away thinking you were insane. Now,,, looking at the quandary of Vulgar, Repulsive, and Self Serving Garbage that we have for leadership [...] I'm left wondering how this Country continues to survive. Looking at the comments posted herein all that I can say is that you folks need to start taking this type of information seriously. If you don't do it for yourselves, at least think about what your children might have to endure in the future.
PatColo
24th December 2015, 11:34 AM
pretty good Renegade Roundtable podcast here with most of their show hosts present, talk about where we've been, where we're going, blah blah. Chatty & unstructured; 3 hours with occasional music interludes. :)
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Jewboo
24th December 2015, 01:02 PM
We've been talking about sheeple at GIM/GSUS for years now. I gotta tell you, I see noticeable evidence that people are waking up. Five years ago, it seemed like 1 in 50 or 100 had a clue. Now it seems like 1 in 5 or 10, at least around these parts. The awareness level is greatly heightening. The politicians still have a stronghold, and there are likely some crisis moments ahead, but I think people are becoming quicker to recognize things for what they are, though they may not yet understand how to stop it, or prepare for it.
I've had many discussions with people who are dropping their partisan allegiance, and they know something is afoul. A close friend (liberal/democrat tendencies) recently mentioned he's lost trust in both sides and now recognizes that the government is squandering his tax money rather than using it to help society as he used to expect. He's starting to think that government perpetuates war. He mentioned he's concerned about his retirement money, and wonders if perhaps there is something to this idea of actually buying "gold rocks". He never would have said any of this five years ago.
Is anybody else noticing the tide turning?
Sparky posted this question years ago.
If anything, our fellow goyim are even more retarded:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36VvWNJoGcc
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GIM2, GSUS, and all the other "Patriot" forums are now ghost towns. Remember the Tea Party and the Occupy Wall Street protests? Me neither...
:(?? no "awakening" Sparky
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Shami-Amourae
24th December 2015, 02:06 PM
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hoarder
24th December 2015, 02:20 PM
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Sparky posted this question years ago.
If anything, our fellow goyim are even more retarded:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36VvWNJoGcc
Bear in mind that the Jews at Jewtube would not tell us if any anti-khazar videos were in the top ten most viewed. They use their own discretion in deciding which ten they want us to think are popular. Most likely they wish those were the most viewed.
Horn
24th December 2015, 03:08 PM
It were a decent thread, now Shami and Book are on to it.
Its just a potato.
PatColo
17th February 2016, 04:51 AM
from UK's "Digger For Truth"; he has a nice way of organizing his thoughts :)
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I’m sure that’s a question we often ask ourselves. Initially I just thought about how many people in the world who are ‘awake’ to a general conspiracy; but then I thought this starts getting into grey areas, such as ‘the Globalists’ ‘the elite powers’, etc. Surely anyone with a tad of common sense will know that there are forces at play beyond the government, even if these idiots do actually vote.
But I suppose even the question How many Jew-wise people are there in the world? is still up for interpretation. What exactly does it mean to be Jew-wise? There is jew-wise and jew-wise. Our grandparents may have said “Oh those pesky Jews, up to their monkey business“, or your work mate knowing that the Jews control the money markets and are up no good with their trading methods. But the question really means – who is reasonably awake to the comprehensive shenanigans of Jewish perfidy?
So before we look at any figures; here are some guidelines for people qualifying as being Jew-wise. I have split their levels of knowledge into two groups:
JW person A
Generally aware of zionism and a global zionist plot.
Aware that israel had some involvement in 9-11.
Aware that elite Jews are running the money markets.
Aware that there are questions around their holocaust narrative and that it is strange that people are incarcerated in 17 countries just for asking questions about it.
Aware that the Palestinians are greatly suffering under the israeli occupation.
Are aware that international Jewry have political clout over America and many Western nations.
JW person B
They know fully that International Jewry carried out 9-11 and London 7/7 bombings, The Madrid train bombing, etc.
They are aware IJ were responsible for the black slave trade; as well as poisoning the wells causing the Black Death in Europe.
They know without question that ‘the’ holocaust is a big fat kosher lie – it never happened, that 6 million Jews were not gassed. There were no DEATH camps.
That IJ are behind all these additional false flags/hoaxes such as: Sandy Hook, Boston Marathon, London beheading, Paris shootings, etc.
That IJ are behind the pornography trade, alcohol trade, gambling, peadophile rings, GM/junk food, chemtrails, smart meters, sea/river/steam pollution, etc.
They have a general understanding of how ‘usury’ works and how IJ monopolises every trade.
They have read sufficient amounts of [I]The Babylonian Talmud and realise the implications of this perverted mindset on society.
They have read The Protocols of The Learned Elders of Zion and are aware this most definitely is not a forgery, but an architectural game plan for IJ to dominate the world.
And what irritates the hell out of me, is that there are so many people who are awake at this level who are gardeners, cleaners, school children, single mums, grannies, scaffolders, general office clerks, printers, car mechanics, labourers. Yet all those so-called people working in government ‘intelligence’ with all their data collection and high tech gadgetry, still haven’t worked it out. FUCKING SELLOUT TRAITORS…….argggghhh.
As a wild guess, I would suggest the amount of JW person B types are between 5-10 million. And JW person A types between 50-80 million. ?????
The reason I have come up with these figures is because of the following:
I am aware milliions of Muslims across the world know about a zionist plot.
A recent survey stated that in France alone 16% of people were aware of a zionist conspiracy. And this is representative of international awareness; and growing rapidly.
My day to day conversations with people on the street, picking up that people are aware of Jews being the troublemakers of society. This awareness has increased during my time as an activist. The more people suffer, the more people are independently searching on the internet for answers to why they are suffering and more importantly who is the cause of their suffering.
Attending Palestinian demonstrations and watching the numbers increase and observing the honestly of the placards and chanting.
The incredible amount of blog/websites exposing Jewish hegemony.
The main stream press as our barometer, panic-stricken about the exponential global awakening. There isn’t a day now that they screech about the rise in “anti-Semitism”.
But I really haven’t got a clue. Those figures are a total guess.
Perhaps we should write into these government intelligent agencies and ask them. I’m sure they’re keeping a track on the JW stats.
I have heard rumours that quarter of a billion people are awake to some degree (Illuminati, global agenda level). That is 1 in 28 people if we believe that 7 billion are on the planet (I don’t think there are 7 billion people myself). Quarter of a billion seems a bit much to me. But still, these rumours indicate that we are talking enormous amounts of people waking up.
People talk about a critical mass awakening, I think this is inevitable, but what is this critical mass going to be? What sort of figures? I would suggest it is going to have to be above quarter of a billion person B types before any real shift happens.
I think this will happen sooner than any of us can imagine, due to the exponential growth of awakening. I’m sure there are probably computer programmers or statisticians who would be able to calculate pretty accurately when this will happen. I bet International Jewry know exactly when this date is and have something planned before this mass awakening will materialise. A nice little surprise for us; some special event, such as world war three, or a global virus, or a plague which will destroy all crops. Something which will be so life threatening, that worrying about whether the holocaust happened or not will be the last thing on our minds.
That is why it is essential that we stop these demonically-driven maniacs in their path as soon as we can.
And on that note – the next question should be:
How many of these JW people are doing something about it?
Again these people can be split into two camps:
Person A
Reading heaps of books about the conspiracy.
Watching endless hours of scary youtube videos.
Reading copious amounts of interesting articles.
Casually telling their friends about it and the occasional person at work.
Meeting up with other JW pals to moan about the Jews.
Pop along to their local Pro Palestine demo.
Talking about all the things they plan to do.
Putting all their energy into the endless symptoms of the agenda and not the root cause.
Leaving it all up to their church, mosque and God to sort out. Allahu Akbar and turn the other cheek mindset.
Waiting for someone else to save the day for them. Some hero in the Truth movement, or some save-the-day politician (messianic complex).
Person B
Actively going out of their way to get the Truth shared.
A devotee to the Truth – taking risks, having inconvenience.
Using all their life experiences and skill sets towards getting the Truth out there.
Actually achieving things, beyond just talk.
Realising the Truth discovers you and this is one’s spiritual obligation, that we are in a spiritual war.
Person A – 10-79+ million Person B – 3000-8000
If these guesses are in anyway accurate – this is a sad reflection on the level of activism, that 1 in 80000 people are willing to get off their arse and actually do something about this tyranny. I hope I’m very wrong on this. Because if these figures are any way accurate, then think of our potential. That if enough of us pulled our fingers out and braved up – our suffering could realistically be over in a matter of weeks! In just six weeks we could begin the process of our global freedom.
It’s not the amount of people waking up that is necessarily important –
it is the amount of people braving up.
Answers in the comments for estimates please…
http://renegadetribune.com/how-many-jew-wise-people-are-there-in-the-world/
Joshua01
17th February 2016, 05:38 AM
If one hasn't figured out by now that the Joos run everything, own everything and control everyone one has NOT been paying attention
PatColo
17th February 2016, 06:45 AM
If one hasn't figured out by now that the Joos run everything, own everything and control everyone one has NOT been paying attention
oh ur busted now, the joo-word police (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?87801-JOOboo-joospews-about-dajooz-and-why-everyone-must-be-in-compliance) will be along momentarily to write you a citation! :o
Joshua01
17th February 2016, 08:24 AM
oh ur busted now, the joo-word police (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?87801-JOOboo-joospews-about-dajooz-and-why-everyone-must-be-in-compliance) will be along momentarily to write you a citation! :o
Someone has to break the rules...without people like me we wouldn't need police....even the joo-word kind??
PatColo
1st March 2016, 03:53 AM
UK's Digger for Truth (http://renegadetribune.com/author/digger/) (<< all his articles @ Renegade). This actually reminds me of a poll I started at GIM1, asking simply: Do you write with your left or your right hand? I don't recall how many ultimately participated, maybe 50-100 somewhere? And it was an anon poll to encourage the "paranoids." Well the percent of "Lefties" in the gen pop is considered 8-10%, but my GIM1 poll, circa '08, was cruising with about 33% Lefties! :o I always suspected this was related to Lefties' higher propensity to "wake up", at least more so than "average"; slightly different brain wiring! :cool:
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I’m sure it’s the case with most of us free-thinkers – to a degree we somehow knew that society was warped. In our hearts we wanted to rebel, but didn’t quite dare to or even know how. Yet internally we managed to maintain some levels of resistance to the norms, which inevitably projected externally as being awkward or quirky, somehow acting slightly different to how the other children did.
With me it just manifested as being scruffy and a bit of a thicko. Yes always scruffy and always a bit on the slow side. My school reports almost always read along the lines of Slow to receive information (their indoctrination), lack of confidence, lack of concentration and easily distracted. Not a lot’s changed there.
The class structure at my school had a system where each class had sets of tables grouping children in their rating of intelligence. Can you believe that!? Table one for the smart nippers and table 6 for the dunces. You guessed – Digger was lumbered on table 6 – and for years.
What kind of impact does that have on a child? What impact has that had on me as an adult?
However at the time I remember there were some benefits for being an idiot. For starters the Irish penguins (nuns) never expected much from us – after all we were too much hard work, too time consuming. We just would not conform.
We hardly had any homework. We could sneak in sweets since the attention really wasn’t on us. We could chuckle and giggle away without being reprimanded. I was quite content with my beloved table 6, with all my dribbling friends, especially sitting next to pretty Tanya with her long black hair. I often wonder if Tanya and my table 6 buddies turned out to be fellow truth-seekers.
I also wonder what happened to the table 1 group. Probably all turned out to be good little repeaters in the system. All degree’d-up accountants, doctors, high-ranking coppers, and council officials. All with good steady incomes to afford comfortable lives with nicely decorated houses in the suburbs.
That’s really how things work. Those who flow with ‘the system’ are successful. Those who work against the system get crushed or penalized in one way or another – eventually. I do hear of those who are apparently ‘off the grid’, but are they able to maintain it? How long can one really survive in this world living outside the matrix?
OK, let’s say somehow some of you manage to get some land or hide out in the wilderness. How long is it before some busy body jobs-worth comes along from the local council or the men in black impose restrictions on your new alternative lifestyle? Further taxes, health and safety regulations, licenses, local bye-laws, new government legislation, even fines. How free can one ever be in this judaic system?
I suppose where I’m going with all this is just highlighting the very obvious point that the way society dishes out it’s pavlovian rewards is usually based on a scale of subservience to this inverted artificial reality. The more corrupt one is, the more conditioned one is, the more obedient – then the more goodies one receives in forms of material wealth. Perfection in slavery.
In fact it is such a perfect system for the elite that it is even self-perpetuating, the slaves even encourage the other slaves to toe the line. It also works as a drug. People actually become addicted and intoxicated in this reward system.
What’s even more astounding and distasteful is that those who crawl their way up to the top through any means possible (it matters not who they’ve trod on to get to the top) are respected and lorded. Superstars, barristers, chief of police, cut throat entrepreneurs, pornographers, vivisectioners, media moguls – the list is endless.
However I do think the cracks are beginning to now show. Some of us so-called idiots have seen through this illusion. We have finally worked out the rules of this cruel game. Although many of us have, it seems almost impossible that at this stage not more of us have sussed it. Perhaps they have, I mean deep down, but it’s just that good ol’ cognitive dissonance has kicked in to protect them from ever coming out of their comfort zones.
More and more people are beginning to see the difference between free-thinking and structured learning, between wisdom and academic intelligence, between common sense and health and safety regulations, between lawful and legal, between plain ol’ ethics and legislation, between real wealth and money, between straight forward good and bad, between right and wrong.
That if you add two to two it somehow adds up to 4, not 5. We’re finally getting it – we’re finally seeing through the matrix.
But we just gotta make sure we never ever let those table 6 idiots start running things – or we’ll be stuffed!
PatColo
1st March 2016, 04:02 AM
Sofia Smallstorm interview, 1 hr. Lady is Ole Dammegard's (http://lightonconspiracies.com/newsite/my-biography) "sweetheart." :)&
Kim Kamala Ekman 2/10/16 (http://aboutthesky.com/podcasts)
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Kim Kamala Ekman, yoga specialist who is deeply into the science of mind has produced the first of a series of books, "So What Can I Do?" (http://aboutthesky.com/images/stories/books/sowhatcanido.jpg) She gathers the views of eight alternative researchers into a volume that can be hand-carried into your bleakest moment (speaking metaphorically) ... As you wrestle with the reality that only a few of us seem to be perceiving, what do you do and where do you go with it? Kim decided to get some answers, chose her first eight personalities, and created her offering to the rest of us. Let her tell you who's in the book, why she chose them, what kinds of questions she posed and where she's going to go next. Available at Amazon.com
(http://www.amazon.com/So-What-Can-Do-researchers/dp/1522711260)
(http://memoryholeblog.com/)
Listen here (http://aboutthesky.com/images/stories/audio/SSmallstorm_podcast_041_02-10-16.mp3)
(http://aboutthesky.com/images/stories/audio/ssmallstorm_podcast_001_6-7-14.mp3)
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http://www.amazon.com/So-What-Can-Do-researchers/dp/1522711260
Have you ever wondered who is controlling the world? Why we are stuck in debt? If it really matters if we vote or not? If it is good or bad to vaccinate? What GMO’s and geoengineering are? In this book you will get amazing answers from renowned researchers from around the world, as well as their perspectives on many different and interesting topics. A few of the 15 questions asked: * How do you see the world today in terms of the challenges facing us? * What are your thoughts about money and the global banks? * What is your opinion on vaccines? * Do chemtrails exist and if so, why are we being sprayed? * Seeing the madness around me, can you suggest ways to regain my trust in the future and how to act to make a positive change? Through this new knowledge you can step out of fear and into a new level of awareness, filled with peace, joy, love and light. If you like straight forward answers about what’s going on in the world today and what you can do about it, this book is for you.
Sparky
4th March 2016, 03:14 PM
This entire wild election cycle, featuring Trump and Sanders, is fueled by the awakening process. They still don't know what they're waking up to, but they are beginning to rub their eyes. This awakening has another decade to play out.
PatColo
13th March 2016, 11:55 PM
digger again; short one! :)
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I often get messages from people saying they feel so isolated knowing this information. This is understandable. But I try to remind people that whenever any of us feel alone with this level of Truth, knowing that 2+2=4, when everyone around you is repeating the groupthink that it’s 5, it would pay to reflect on the fact that there are far more people awake than we could ever imagine. Even at the level we are at. The amount of people who are jew-wise now is quite incredible – and the Victimites know this.
When we’re standing on a packed train and thinking to ourself “God, I wish people would wake up!” There is a chance we are standing right next to someone who is thinking the exact same thing. I often think it would be good to have a pair of ‘They Live’ glasses, not only to spot the scooby doos, but to spot other filthy anti-semites.
So please, when you’re browsing the net late into the night and that feeling of isolation creeps upon you, remind yourself that somebody just at the end of your road or in your wee village is probably browsing the same site.; maybe they’re even corresponding with you.
I think if they control the internet any more, hence converting it into a BBC/CNN type format, then we will be forced to start doing more non-cyber/physical activism – then we’ll see how many like-minded individuals are out there.
I think we would all be shocked at the amount of awakened souls who are living a stone throw away from us. We are less isolated than we may think.
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Related Posts by Digger
How many jew-wise people are there in the world (http://renegadetribune.com/how-many-jew-wise-people-are-there-in-the-world/)
4s vs 5s (https://diggerfortruth.wordpress.com/2015/08/29/4s-vs-5s/)
PatColo
29th May 2016, 04:37 PM
Digger...
Real Life Truthing
May 29, 2016 Digger for Truth 3 Comments
10 things we can do outside of the cyber world to resist this jewish tyranny:
1. Hand outs
Flyers, stickers, burnt CDs/DVDs, photocopied articles (with resources), etc. My advice with flyers is make them simple. Half a dozen key websites and a few films and some google topics. I don’t think it is necessary to have them full colour either. A plain, easy-to-read format will suffice. I tend to chose websites and films which have a compendium of accurate information [obviously www.rengagetribune.com being one]. I also avoid websites that are hardcore in-ye-face right wing nazi with swastikas etc. They may be terrific websites, but too off-putting for newcomers to the Truth.
I leave them on trains, waiting areas, cafes, stickers on the back of toilet doors, churches (even putting flyers into bibles), anywhere I can. Sometimes I get a wad of freebie newspapers and put flyers inside each newspaper and then put the newspapers back in the rack for people to pick up. I have thought about hiring one of these paramotors and literally drop leafleting an entire town. That would wake up a few sleeping souls.
I thought of creating small A6/A7 size pocket Truth booklets, stapled together. Each page with a quote, or simple questions like “Do you really think your government wouldn’t lie to you?” or “Have you ever wondered why hospital treatment is such a failure and never gets to the root cause of your condition?” Then a collection of Truth websites and films on the back page.
You could even put an advertisement in a shop window for a room, or yoga classes whatever, but instead of a telephone number, write a Truth website instead. This could be on public display for a month or more.
I think it would be a good idea if we had a website with just one page with heaps of links to all the various subjects: false flags, revisionism, health, prominent films, etc. But all on one clear tidy page with subtitles and links to each particular subject. Then we could all make simple stickers with this one website. And it would be easy for graffiti too, just to scribble one website which covers a comprehensive range of topics. Perhaps somebody reading this who is savvy making websites could set this up.
2. Posters
A2 or A3 or A4 size posters. Any artists out there – you’re needed! Please put your talents to good use for the Truth. Make sure your posters are laminated. Lamination machines aren’t that expensive these days. Best to be independent, rather than have to get them done in a printer. You could even just laminate a few flyers and pin them to posts and notice boards, making them more weather resistant. I even put them up in isolated places when I go hiking. You could put up a dozen a day. All these small acts accumulatively add up to help waking the masses.
How about creating a series of A2 size signs along the grass verges in country roads for motorists to read, like they do for a local theatre or event? You could make four consecutive signs:
the first sign could read ‘GOOGLE’,
the 2nd sign ‘ISRAEL’,
the 3rd ‘DID’
and the 4th ‘9-11’
3. Chit chat
Simply engaging in conversation with total strangers. I do it daily, I get talking to them about any subject, the weather, their dog and gradually drift the conversation to the government, and how untrustworthy they are; or how corrupt the local councils are; then if there’s a spark of light, I make sure I write down some websites and films for them before we part [I always ensure I leave the house with a notepad and pen]. I try to artificially engineer each conversation around to subjects relating to the Truth. It’s quite easy as this agenda umbrellas every aspect of our lives. I sometimes pretend I’m waiting for a bus and get chatting to some poor victim at a bus stop, pointing up to chemtrails whatever. They can’t really escape at a bus stop. Mind you, there is a good chance they’ll tell you piss off :-).
4. Graffiti
back of dirty lorries – google: ‘9-11 Missing Links’. To think this lorry may travel hundreds of miles through built up areas before this graffiti is washed off.
chalk on walls and pavements
in the snow
pebbles/stones laid out as writing
sand writing on the beach
stick writing in the mud
5. Bed sheets
Get an old bed sheet from a charity shop and paint a sign, with a website or film. Then hang it from a bridge, with small weights safely sown into it to allow it to hang better. Make sure whatever you write is clear and quick to read, for the drivers to absorb the information as they zoom by.
6. T-shirts
Get some semi-controversial T-shirts to wear out and about, such as: ‘Don’t trust your government’ ‘All governments LIE’ ‘2+2=5 … keep believing it’. Perhaps you could just wear a badge/pin for people to comment on. If you’re on a crowded train, it could be enough to start off a conversation. I really just like to have an excuse to engage people in conversation, or at least make them think. It’s not about giving them j-wise info there and then. I just talk in general terms, but ensure I hand them a flyer, or scribble down info before we part.
7. Big mouth
Talk to your friends in a loud voice in public places. But best do it as a 3rd party person. So for example you could say to your friend on a packed train “You know John up the pub, well, he reckons that it wasn’t the Muslims who done 9-11 – it was the jews!” Saying it in a way that you’re neutral and are blissfully ignorant. You could also do this with the holocaust them “Jane in the office refuses to believe the jewish holocaust. She thinks it’s all a big hoax. It shocked me, because she’s so sensible and logically minded.” Whatever, just so long as the key point is made and if anyone takes offence at the Truth, well you’re only expressing what some bloke called John said up the pub. And even if one special person or lefty does take offence, you’re none the wiser, you’re just neutral and you could even agree with them. All that matters is others have overheard you saying it and the damage is done. It may just be enough of a spark for the odd one to go home and research it – job done!
[see related post ‘Big mouth’ and ‘Crafty Truthing’ below]
8. Visualization
The power of imagery (imagination). Deliberately putting 10 minutes of the day to meditate on the future we want to see: these tyrants taken out of position of power and social influence, all the self-serving traitors locked away in traitors prisons, all the shills publicly shamed, a return to natural law and traditional living amongst your cultural people. It could simply be imagining sanity in the world with peace and justice.
You may just visualise trying to gain solutions – methods on how to overcome this judaic enslavement. Almost putting it out there as a request to the Universe. Whatever you visualise as your ideal world to be, try to make it accurate, detailed with realistic time frames – this is important. Create a successful movie in your mind, how we crushed this beast and you were an active member, playing your particular role.
[please see related post ‘9pm Connection’ and ’Dream on’ below]
9. Computer shops front pages
Go into computer shops and leave the screen shot with ‘Renegade Tribune’ or ‘The Greatest Story Never Told’. Even if a customer doesn’t note the site, one of the staff may check out the information.
10. Mantras
Thunderbolt mantra – ‘Destroy your enemy/Clean house from trash’
HUNG vajra peh (pronounced “pey”. Emphasis on HUNG)
Used for developing front lobe powers, sweeping away scum, garbage, clearing space of dead matter, conflict, negativity.
This is not going to cost us anything other than a bit of regular effort. What have we to lose(?) We don’t even have to believe in mantras. 108 repetitions is effective, but it doesn’t have to be that much. It’s more about quantity of people around the world doing mantras collectively building up resonance/energy. I think mantras are a hugely underestimated fighting tool for us.
Note
Of course some people write on bank notes. And as I am purer than snow, I would never advice doing such an illegal act. Likewise with graffiti paint spraying and permanent marker pen writing. These are very naughty acts, and us Truthers are law-abiding citizens, so we would never dream of doing such things.
Whenever I’m putting any stickers or doing graffiti, I never do this to any private individual’s property. I want to gain more people to our cause, not piss them off and give the Truth community a bad image. We have try and be ambassadors for the Truth.
Be mindful of CCTV cameras. Check very carefully first. ‘They’ could find an excuse to prosecute you for defacing public property, or even hate crimes. Don’t be reckless, it’s not worth it.
Perhaps brainstorm ideas with some fellow truthers 20 ideas what you can do to get the Truth out there… then follow through with just one of them to start with.
But whatever we do – we have to DO. Don’t claim to be in the Truth movement if all you are doing is moaning about the problems, reading endless books, listening heaps of audios and watching videos – essentially just being spectator.
Please remember, we all have to contribute, we all have to bring something to the table.
Related posts
Big Mouth
Crafty Truthing
9pm Connection
Dream on
Truthing page
http://www.renegadetribune.com/real-life-truthing/
PatColo
4th June 2016, 01:22 AM
Brian Ruhe and John Kaminski, total 1 hr
We lose loved ones when they don't let go of media lies. 1 of 3
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-vOO-qKz-iA
Glass
14th June 2016, 08:56 PM
Crrow777radio Episode 12:
Topics covered in full show:
Monsters inc. encoding, 911, Muhammad Ali Hoax, Olympics fraud, Babylon, price of fame, deception through entertainment, subconscious programming, the death based system of deception, death, elite life spans possibly hundreds of years, dying at 74 years, death programming, retrograde medicine of the west, cannabis as medicine. Organic food, biblical life spans, Methuselah, Rothschild, driver’s license fraud, Interstellar movie, GMO, gene splicing seeds and food, Monsanto, Chemtrails, flicker rates, embedding intent into water, food packaging used to embed intention, Kosher food symbols, all food blessed by Rabbi, the awakening, apocalypse meaning, pagan meaning, information control, TV as the ultimate weapon, law of attraction, flat earth, distance of stars sun moon, Christianity, the Vatican, religious programming, worshiping idols, palm Sunday, the perverted calendar, than Vatican tracking and worshiping the sun, St. Andrew, St John, zodiac, tracking the sun, astrology, ISS fraud, astronomical distances lie, science as a religion, questioning gravity, encoding the sun in religion and movies, human vs. animal learning, language, corrupted Vatican, astrological ages, age of Aquarius – Taurus and Pisces, mentality creating reality, black cube, Saturn, time, Chronos, mental prison, false history, repeated history, predictive programming, programmed fear, celebrity genetic selection, royalties, rap music.
GSUS post with link to YT. http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?85294-Lunar-Wave-(Hologram-)-Events&p=838546&viewfull=1#post838546
PatColo
16th July 2016, 07:47 AM
a couple recent A.C.Hitchcock ("synagogue of satan" author) shows with dinjoo-wise truth activists; good stuff as they philosophize about their awakening, through their current activities, the pitfalls, etc. Both 1 hour:
The Andrew Carrington Hitchcock Show (114) Sven Longshanks – Radio Aryan
Andrew Carrington Hitchcock (http://eurofolkradio.com/author/andrew/) July 8, 2016 The Andrew Carrington Hitchcock Show (114) Sven Longshanks – Radio Aryan (http://eurofolkradio.com/2016/07/08/andrew-carrington-hitchcock-show-114-sven-longshanks-radio-aryan/)2016-07-08T17:46:35+00:00 ANDREW CARRINGTON HITCHCOCK SHOW (http://eurofolkradio.com/category/radio/andrew-carrington-hitchcock-show/) No Comment (http://eurofolkradio.com/2016/07/08/andrew-carrington-hitchcock-show-114-sven-longshanks-radio-aryan/#respond)
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Andrew Carrington Hitchcock begins his first show for Radio Aryan by interviewing the producer, Sven Longshanks.
Subjects covered include how Sven came to be doing what he is doing, what brought him to Nationalism and the Alt-Right and what he hopes to achieve with Radio Aryan.
His time at the Daily Stormer is also talked about and how he first started making podcasts, before moving on to concentrate on managing the internet radio site.
After the biography he explains why he sees miscegenation as being the most dangerous threat that we face. All other forms of harm to us can be remedied, but once you go Black, you are never coming back.
He also talks about the Jewish infiltration of our institutions, which has led to the lowering of our standards in everything, particularly our moral standards.
He also explains how his faith in Christianity inspires him to serve the White race and gives him hope, encouraging him to always resist the temptations that the Jews put before us.
We do have control over our own lives, even if we do not have control over the establishment and we should always be working to improve ourselves and striving to be the best people we can be.
By not getting loans, not using credit cards, not watching pornography, not engaging in casual sex or drug use and by taking an obvious stand against the Jewish subversion of our societies, we can free ourselves from being in bondage to him through our passions.
Even if our countries do remain under Jewish control, at least then we as individuals are not.
Presented by Andrew Carrington Hitchcock with special guest Sven Longshanks
Click Here To Listen To The Show (http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-135369/TS-1093693.mp3)
Click Here For The Radio Aryan Website (http://www.radioaryan.com/)
Click Here For The Andrew Carrington Hitchcock Show Archive Where You Can Listen To Or Download All My Shows (http://eurofolkradio.com/2016/02/02/the-andrew-carrington-hitchcock-show-info-downloads/)
The Andrew Carrington Hitchcock Show (118) Grandpa Lampshade – All Out Discussion (http://eurofolkradio.com/2016/07/14/andrew-carrington-hitchcock-show-118-grandpa-lampshade-discussion/)
Andrew Carrington Hitchcock (http://eurofolkradio.com/author/andrew/) July 14, 2016 The Andrew Carrington Hitchcock Show (118) Grandpa Lampshade – All Out Discussion (http://eurofolkradio.com/2016/07/14/andrew-carrington-hitchcock-show-118-grandpa-lampshade-discussion/)2016-07-14T16:35:55+00:00 ANDREW CARRINGTON HITCHCOCK SHOW (http://eurofolkradio.com/category/radio/andrew-carrington-hitchcock-show/) No Comment (http://eurofolkradio.com/2016/07/14/andrew-carrington-hitchcock-show-118-grandpa-lampshade-discussion/#respond)
On today's show Andy interviews Grandpa Lampshade who hosts the popular, "Thoughts Of The Day,"…
PatColo
18th July 2016, 12:01 AM
Just started listening to this; should be good, coz Kyle & Dennis have similar paths, esoteric focus 5+ years ago, tangling with da dinjooz causing their awakenings, now more anti-JWO focus. 1h 48m:
The Solar Storm with Kyle Hunt 2016.07.17 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2016/07/the-solar-storm-with-kyle-hunt-20160717.html)
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Dennis Fetcho – The Long Struggle
Kyle speaks with Dennis Fetcho of Inside the Eye Live (http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/shows/solar/http://insidetheeyelive.com) about a wide range of topics, including: their shared experience years ago dealing with esoteric issues and jewish control, how things have changed since then, Dennis’s work in the Middle East, occult constructions and spiritual matters, demonic influence, the notion of paradise, the end times, averting extinction, and much more. NB: I added gain where it was needed.
Renegade Broadcasting (http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/)
Renegade Tribune (http://renegadetribune.com/)
Renegade Archive (http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/hosts/kyle-hunt/)
64k CF Download (https://archive.org/download/TheSolarStormWithKyleHunt2016.07.17/The%20Solar%20Storm%20with%20Kyle%20Hunt%202016.07 .17.mp3)
PatColo
2nd August 2016, 10:33 AM
reposted @ MemoryHoleBlog:
July 31, 2016 (https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/07/31/truth-in-an-age-of-mass-deception/)
Truth in an Age of Mass Deception (https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/07/31/truth-in-an-age-of-mass-deception/) 18 (https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/07/31/truth-in-an-age-of-mass-deception/#comments)
by Kevin Scott King (https://memoryholeblog.com/author/phoenixr199/) • Guest Posts (https://memoryholeblog.com/category/guest-posts/) • Tags: alternative media (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/alternative-media/), conspiracy theory (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/conspiracy-theory/), journalism (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/journalism/),Kevin Scott King (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/kevin-scott-king/), media disinformation (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/media-disinformation/), mind control (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/mind-control/), philosophy (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/philosophy/), political ideology (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/political-ideology/), truth community (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/truth-community/), Truthshock (https://memoryholeblog.com/tag/truthshock/)
“If we’ve all been born into a world of mass deception, then this world of illusion has become our reality, it is our normal.”
This post first appeared at Truthshock (https://truthshock.wordpress.com/)
https://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/3d-propaganda.jpg?w=474
Truthshock: the psychological condition induced by a barrage of Truthbombs. Oftentimes accompanied by distress, disbelief, and denial.
TruthShock. I did not appreciate when I created this blog how accurate, how prescient, how appropriate that title was. When I set out to create the blog I wanted to call it ‘The Forest’. Alluding to the well known quote; “One can’t see the forest for the trees”, which is alluding to the fact that when one is in the middle of ‘it’ it is difficult to see the whole, or to even realize there is a greater part. All one can see is the trees in their immediate vicinity, never realizing their reality is but a tiny part of a much greater whole. Thus one cannot see the whole Truth.
When I went to WordPress to create the blog I had no second choice, plan B, or back-up plan. I tried numerous variations of ‘The Forest’ and the quote it came from but they were all taken. I am unsure where ‘TruthShock’ came from. It just popped out. But frankly, it’s a much better title and descriptor than ‘The Forest’. It’s more direct. It’s grabs the attention. And more importantly, it’s true.
MORE… (https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/07/31/truth-in-an-age-of-mass-deception/#more-31998)
Jewboo
19th August 2016, 10:45 PM
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Talked to my neighbor from across the street last week. Has two young boys and a nice wife. He had a Bernie Saunders bumper sticker on his car. Before that Ron Paul. Before that Ralph Nader.
He is totally defeated and still in shock. Said his dad is a life-long Republican who is voting for Trump.
I despise him now. He has that thousand yard stare like in the above cartoon.
cheka.
20th August 2016, 12:31 AM
he is on the cusp -- push him over the ledge
Shami-Amourae
20th August 2016, 12:44 AM
Talked to my neighbor from across the street last week. Has two young boys and a nice wife. He had a Bernie Saunders bumper sticker on his car. Before that Ron Paul. Before that Ralph Nader.
He is totally defeated and still in shock. Said his dad is a life-long Republican who is voting for Trump.
I despise him now. He has that thousand yard stare like in the above cartoon.
Ah-ah-ah-at least he's not a racist.
https://s4.postimg.io/l39sm4u4r/1454685543284.jpg
Jewboo
20th August 2016, 01:47 AM
he is on the cusp -- push him over the ledge
He defied his own Republican father all these years. I could give him a Redpill usb drive but that would really push him over the ledge. It did us.
:(??
Shami-Amourae
20th August 2016, 02:37 AM
He defied his own Republican father all these years. I could give him a Redpill usb drive but that would really push him over the ledge. It did us.
:(??
Giving someone a USB drive is one of the biggest turn-offs you could do. It basically tells someone you're out of touch and irrelevant.
Young people have short attention spans. Our brains have been re-wired since of the modern media, the Internet, and video games.
You have to understand that, and use that to your advantage.
Jewboo
20th August 2016, 02:47 AM
Young people have short attention spans. Our brains have been re-wired since of the modern media, the Internet, and video games.
You have to understand that, and use that to your advantage.
He is around 35 with a wife, kids, house, and a steady job. He isn't a young sperg gamer manlet who can't read.
:)
PatColo
9th January 2017, 08:26 AM
Pizzagate has been a good "wake up" catalyst, as well as the (((FakeStream Media's))) "performance" around the recent election...
curious accent on this guy... but some good titles at his channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCx3fXYQPK7KvESgIqw-jFeg/videos
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1_gJV2U7h-A/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=8oy-onB50_GSX0bxhru9l4S9ZYA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_gJV2U7h-A) 3:43
Will corporate fakestream media survive 2017? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_gJV2U7h-A)
50 views
20 hours ago
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ajeaK_Rvq5o/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=xnInR-PKKHWhpGS3-LKZFkECfsk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajeaK_Rvq5o) 10:12
How to convince people about #Pizzagate (hint: you shouldn't) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajeaK_Rvq5o)
318 views
3 days ago
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6P44OndVB5A/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=k26i92fIIEB32nD5ugXqs1Sovm4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P44OndVB5A) 3:10
Amazing Wikileaks 2017: "Prepare for final showdown!" #pizzagate (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P44OndVB5A)
309 views
4 days ago
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XglKju48yu0/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=zHCS9ahp2cJAF5e7ybIICbLQuP4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XglKju48yu0) 6:57
Why I'm following David Seaman to Vid.me #pizzagate (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XglKju48yu0)
131 views
4 days ago
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dQKFVjbt2Uk/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=SEutAtPn3mWy1qTszLec9bBSpHQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQKFVjbt2Uk) 17:59
Why the Pizzagate-elite worship Lucifer and the only way to end the battle (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQKFVjbt2Uk)
629 views
5 days ago
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-fzJRgfuRLc/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=1_V3MCwYIpD0OkQJbMoujYsAmrw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fzJRgfuRLc) 6:36
The Great Paradigm Shift of 2016 / 2017 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fzJRgfuRLc)
126 views
1 week ago
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qKXiZxcdBRc/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=q1t42PWxmGFGGgQTRsc7pZntJfA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKXiZxcdBRc) 10:42
5 Ethical Guidelines for Pizzagate investigators (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKXiZxcdBRc)
202 views
1 week ago
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9hz8UVdxgkg/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=IBtD_0Bhwmptrf38NQQbTXU79mc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hz8UVdxgkg) 5:36
Did Pizzagate just turn into Tortillagate also? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hz8UVdxgkg)
574 views
1 week ago
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zXKYveOBHjo/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=mSqfm2ganpADGakYfAFMjIpzH5g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXKYveOBHjo) 6:00
Where is Pizzagate going in 2017? Anyone? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXKYveOBHjo)
895 views
1 week ago
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cq_ixIPFUwo/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=njgyNyEZgfJ1wmricD-0WGBRNdo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq_ixIPFUwo) 14:45
How to de-program yourself and fight the pizzagate-elite also on the metaphysical level (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq_ixIPFUwo)
377 views
1 week ago
PatColo
23rd July 2017, 10:07 AM
This little ditty, a talk with the "Thrive" docu makers, was re-posted by Brian Ruhe of Canada (https://www.youtube.com/user/BrianRuhe/videos).
When did "Thrive" come out, around 2010? IIRC it was similar to "Zeitgeist" which excited many people. But similar to Zeitgeist, Thrive met with some criticism, but I don't recall the specific criticisms of either docu. I remember personally feeling that the part 1 (out of 3) of Zeitgeist, basically trashing Christianity, was counter-productive... namely, devout Christians would go no further, IE to the latter 2 parts which exposed the Fed & 9/11. :(
I don't believe either docu touched the JP... but as I've seen many observe in the more recent few years, the JQ/JP has become more & more un-taboo'd... Brian Ruhe is all about the JP.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/T4DTtTgkU6c/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLB92Pt9TsEb7BbAjbMWqELqqFSDag (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4DTtTgkU6c) 9:50
How to Share Difficult Information with Friends Without Losing Friendships (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4DTtTgkU6c)
155 views
16 hours ago
Horn
23rd July 2017, 01:34 PM
JQ JP??
All tribes have since been created by their jew creators into their own image of the jew tribe.
PatColo
29th April 2018, 08:41 PM
27yo prodigy/"college dropout" (--H H--) Jordan Sather with http://www.jchristoff.com, 41 mins:
Interview w/ Truth Warrior Jason Christoff - Self-Sabotage and Transcending the False Matrix (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91aT7JIOIbY)
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11 hours ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91aT7JIOIbY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91aT7JIOIbY
PatColo
23rd June 2020, 01:42 PM
A Word About Authoritarian Followers and Dealing with Pajama People
(https://www.winterwatch.net/2020/06/a-word-about-authoritarian-followers-and-dealing-with-pajama-people/)
June 23, 2020 (https://www.winterwatch.net/2020/06/) Russ Winter (https://www.winterwatch.net/author/russ-winter/) Articles by Russ Winter (https://www.winterwatch.net/category/articlesbyrusswinter/), Culture (https://www.winterwatch.net/category/culture/), US News (https://www.winterwatch.net/category/usnews/), Winter Watch Articles (https://www.winterwatch.net/category/winterwatcharticles/) 8 (https://www.winterwatch.net/2020/06/a-word-about-authoritarian-followers-and-dealing-with-pajama-people/#mh-comments)
I participated in a podcast interview (https://www.winterwatch.net/2018/11/a-chat-with-euro-folk-radios-andrew-carrington-hitchcock/) with Andrew Carrington Hitchcock. We spent some time talking about strategies and tactics for spreading our messages to others. In the interview, I described myself as a reformed “pajama person,” which is someone who goes through life asleep to the realities of the world around them.
I awakened seven years ago and have traveled down many rabbit holes to learn as much as I possibly could. I explained to Hitchcock that I view my website, Winter Watch, as a resource for others who are in various stages of awakening and from which to garner topic surveys and talking points. If this were “Lord of the Rings,” we would be the ones wandering through Middle Earth having to deal with Orcs and the rest. The pajama people are those back home in the Shire.
As red-pill takers, we need to conserve our resources and energy to deal with and convert pajama people. The first rule is to avoid and NOT deal with people of the lie. Bob Altemeyer put it this way:
“Probably about 20 to 25 percent of the adult American population is so authoritarian, so scared, so self-righteous, so ill-informed and so dogmatic that nothing you can say or do will change their mind. They would march America into a dictatorship and probably feel that things had improved as a result. … And they are so submissive to their leaders that they will believe and do virtually anything they are told. They are not going to let up and they are not going away.
https://www.winterwatch.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/dyingto-kmow87x.jpg“It is more than just gullibility that explains the phenomenon of the authoritarian follower. And people in positions of high power (besides often being compromised) depend entirely on putting all their energy into anticipating the needs of and pleasing their ‘leader.’”
George Lobaczewski, who wrote “Political Ponerology: A Science on the Nature of Evil Adjusted for Political Purposes (https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_ponerology01.htm),” describes the process as one of sycophancy:
“They initially perform subordinate functions in such a movement and execute the leaders’ orders, especially whenever something needs to be done which inspires revulsion in others. Their evident zealotry and cynicism gives rise to criticism on the part of the more reasonable members, but it also earns the respect of some its more extreme revolutionaries. Thus they climb up the organizational ladder, gain influence, and almost involuntarily bend the contents of the entire group to their own way of experiencing reality and to the goals derived from their deviant nature.”
Pajama people are a different or more common breed. This is more about Stockholm Syndrome and denial about true realities. They covertly believe “ignorance is strength” from the Ministry of Truth. It is hard to wake people up who are pretending to be asleep. And if their slumber is disturbed, they use rationalizations, It’s easier to be dismissive and to pigeonhole someone as paranoid or label their ideas as conspiracy.
When I was a pajama person, I tended to be curious but lazy. I would sometimes question the official narratives; but when offered weak explanations, I would stop dead in my tracks, accept it and go back to sleep.
I think that is because in the early stages of awakening, which is really spiritual growth, there is enough fear to have to deal with without taking on any more. Seeing the emperor naked isn’t pretty, and one wants to preserve their own inner child. Coming back to truth may be too much to stomach, as it can wake you up out of a pleasant state by removing a veil, or what George Gurdjieff called a “buffer.” These veils or buffers are often “false ego” or negative programming.
Once I started breaking through my false ego, I had to overcome another myth and barrier, namely a belief that it is spiritually forbidden to try to change people’s minds. From my experience of trying to be a messenger, I have concluded that many truthers — or those who are in various stages of awakening — are caught in this mental syndrome. It is a form of black pilling.
The Postmodernist Cargo Cult Creates Carte Blanche for the Kakistocracy (https://www.winterwatch.net/2020/06/the-postmodernist-cargo-cult-creates-carte-blanche-for-the-kakistocracy/)
However, this is just another form of denial. It is also the psychological process by which human beings protect themselves, not so much from the knowledge but the criticisms of that knowledge. The best protection from that is becoming very accomplished in your knowledge, especially with the nuggets you want to use. We offer some of that on these pages.
A solid understanding of argumentative fallacies (https://thebestschools.org/magazine/15-logical-fallacies-know/) and a high degree of mental sobriety is also recommended. I would avoid the use of any drugs or alcohol when these topics are being introduced, discussed or pondered. One of the hardest aspects I have to deal with personally is using tremendous amounts of mental energy while neglecting physical health. That, too, has to be consciously overcome.
I recommend using the following meditation with a dose of vitamin B-12 and a dash of maca powder to ward off black magic, cultural Marxism, the Crime Syndicate and New Age gibberish/nonsense. This helps manage the gift of being awake.
Advanced “Fuck That” Meditation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcajfG8kotc&feature=emb_title
Research (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-do-we-swear/) into the hypo-analgesic affect of swearing showed that the use of profanity can help reduce the sensation of pain. This phenomenon is particularly strong in people who do not use such words on a regular basis. For maximum effect, do properly and in moderation [“11 Reasons Cursing Is Good For The Soul (http://elitedaily.com/life/culture/reasons-cursing-is-good-for-the-soul/879294/)“].
A study by Keele University researchers found volunteers who cursed could endure pain nearly 50% longer than civil-tongued peers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T385n0f0DO8
https://www.winterwatch.net/2020/06/a-word-about-authoritarian-followers-and-dealing-with-pajama-people/
osoab
23rd June 2020, 07:53 PM
When was the last time Sparky posted?
monty
23rd June 2020, 09:02 PM
When was the last time Sparky posted?
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