PatColo
13th January 2012, 06:20 AM
was the former main OWS thread: "The Revolution is happening NOW" deleted? ???
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?54463-The-Revolution-is-happening-NOW/
Will You Occupy AIPAC? (http://www.occupyaipac.org/)
Friday, 13 January 2012 08:21
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'We are excited to announce that plans for OCCUPY AIPAC are under way and we hope you will join us March 2-6 in Washington DC.
With the Occupy movement that has swept the country demanding social and economic justice, many have concluded that AIPAC—the powerful pro-Israeli government lobby that distorts U.S. policy in the Middle East— is a mandatory “occupy target”. Adbusters, the magazine that issued the initial visionary call for the takeover of Wall St. on September 17th, has declared: “The time has come for the Occupy Movement to demand an end to the Occupation of Palestine…'
Read more: Will You Occupy AIPAC? (http://www.occupyaipac.org/)
AIPAC 101 — What Every American Should Know (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqM2EXFdOnM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqM2EXFdOnM
Amazon:
The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy (http://www.amazon.com/Israel-Lobby-U-S-Foreign-Policy/dp/B004J8HWVY/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8)
John J. Mearsheimer (http://www.amazon.com/John-J.-Mearsheimer/e/B001H6RT1O/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_1) (Author)
Stephen M. Walt (http://www.amazon.com/Stephen-M.-Walt/e/B000AP9EE8/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_2) (Author)
4.2 out of 5 stars (http://www.amazon.com/Israel-Lobby-U-S-Foreign-Policy/product-reviews/B004J8HWVY/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_img?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1) See all reviews (http://www.amazon.com/Israel-Lobby-U-S-Foreign-Policy/product-reviews/B004J8HWVY/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_img?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1)(255 customer reviews (http://www.amazon.com/Israel-Lobby-U-S-Foreign-Policy/product-reviews/B004J8HWVY/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1))
Most Helpful Customer Reviews
1,149 of 1,328 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Stunning, August 27, 2007
By
F. Bernadotte (http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A76O4MPG12UR4/ref=cm_cr_dp_pdp) - See all my reviews (http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A76O4MPG12UR4/ref=cm_cr_dp_auth_rev?ie=UTF8&sort_by=MostRecentReview)
This review is from: The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy (Hardcover) (http://www.amazon.com/Israel-Lobby-U-S-Foreign-Policy/dp/0374177724/ref=cm_cr_dp_orig_subj)
This book is stunning. The two authors are prominent political scientists with impeccable credentials, hailing from Harvard and the University of Chicago. They have boldly gone where many of their academic colleagues would fear to tread. Although their conclusions about Israel and its negative influence on American foreign policy will awaken much anxiety, resentment and fury in certain quarters, Walt and Mearsheimer don't seem to care. Why not? They are scientists. They appeal to logic, facts and common sense; and let the conclusions fall where they may. The writing is calm, dispassionate, thorough. The basic argument is that the extraordinarily high degree of economic, military and diplomatic support given to Israel by the United States cannot be explained or justified by the notion that Israel functions as a strategic asset to the U.S., or that Israel as the "only democracy" amidst a sea of authoritarian neighbors is deserving of special favor for its "shared interests and values". In fact, the authors claim, Israel is more a liability than an asset. During the Cold War, the strategic-value argument had perhaps some plausibility -- but no longer. What has replaced the Soviet menace, as the enemy which the U.S. supposedly needs Israel's help to combat, is Islamic terrorism. But the U.S. favor shown to Israel at the expense of the Palestinians only makes us more not less vulnerable to terrorism. Furthermore Israel's cruelty towards the Palestinians and its essential nature as a Jewish but not a truly democratic state in which all citizens of whatever ethnicity or religion would be given equal rights and respect, belie the "shared values" argument.
So if neither "shared values" nor "strategic asset" can explain the overwhelming U.S. support of Israel, what else is there? The power of the Israel lobby, which has brought about a situation in which it is impossible for elected officials to question support for Israel, much less redirect foreign policy in any way contrary to the perceived self-interest of Israel. This has led the U.S. to make critical mistakes, such as invading and occupying Iraq. The war on Iraq has proven disastrous; the authors argue that the U.S. would not have attacked Iraq, were it not for the influence of the Israel lobby.
In the end, perhaps what is most significant and remarkable about this book is that it has seen the light of day. It got published. Could it be that there is still hope for reasonable, open debate about the right courses of action in the Middle East? The authors have been and will continue to be vilified as anti-Semitic or worse. They are owed a debt of gratitude for having the courage to stand up and to refuse to be silenced.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?54463-The-Revolution-is-happening-NOW/
Will You Occupy AIPAC? (http://www.occupyaipac.org/)
Friday, 13 January 2012 08:21
http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/January20125/slide6.jpg
'We are excited to announce that plans for OCCUPY AIPAC are under way and we hope you will join us March 2-6 in Washington DC.
With the Occupy movement that has swept the country demanding social and economic justice, many have concluded that AIPAC—the powerful pro-Israeli government lobby that distorts U.S. policy in the Middle East— is a mandatory “occupy target”. Adbusters, the magazine that issued the initial visionary call for the takeover of Wall St. on September 17th, has declared: “The time has come for the Occupy Movement to demand an end to the Occupation of Palestine…'
Read more: Will You Occupy AIPAC? (http://www.occupyaipac.org/)
AIPAC 101 — What Every American Should Know (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqM2EXFdOnM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqM2EXFdOnM
Amazon:
The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy (http://www.amazon.com/Israel-Lobby-U-S-Foreign-Policy/dp/B004J8HWVY/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8)
John J. Mearsheimer (http://www.amazon.com/John-J.-Mearsheimer/e/B001H6RT1O/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_1) (Author)
Stephen M. Walt (http://www.amazon.com/Stephen-M.-Walt/e/B000AP9EE8/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_2) (Author)
4.2 out of 5 stars (http://www.amazon.com/Israel-Lobby-U-S-Foreign-Policy/product-reviews/B004J8HWVY/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_img?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1) See all reviews (http://www.amazon.com/Israel-Lobby-U-S-Foreign-Policy/product-reviews/B004J8HWVY/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_img?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1)(255 customer reviews (http://www.amazon.com/Israel-Lobby-U-S-Foreign-Policy/product-reviews/B004J8HWVY/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1))
Most Helpful Customer Reviews
1,149 of 1,328 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Stunning, August 27, 2007
By
F. Bernadotte (http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A76O4MPG12UR4/ref=cm_cr_dp_pdp) - See all my reviews (http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A76O4MPG12UR4/ref=cm_cr_dp_auth_rev?ie=UTF8&sort_by=MostRecentReview)
This review is from: The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy (Hardcover) (http://www.amazon.com/Israel-Lobby-U-S-Foreign-Policy/dp/0374177724/ref=cm_cr_dp_orig_subj)
This book is stunning. The two authors are prominent political scientists with impeccable credentials, hailing from Harvard and the University of Chicago. They have boldly gone where many of their academic colleagues would fear to tread. Although their conclusions about Israel and its negative influence on American foreign policy will awaken much anxiety, resentment and fury in certain quarters, Walt and Mearsheimer don't seem to care. Why not? They are scientists. They appeal to logic, facts and common sense; and let the conclusions fall where they may. The writing is calm, dispassionate, thorough. The basic argument is that the extraordinarily high degree of economic, military and diplomatic support given to Israel by the United States cannot be explained or justified by the notion that Israel functions as a strategic asset to the U.S., or that Israel as the "only democracy" amidst a sea of authoritarian neighbors is deserving of special favor for its "shared interests and values". In fact, the authors claim, Israel is more a liability than an asset. During the Cold War, the strategic-value argument had perhaps some plausibility -- but no longer. What has replaced the Soviet menace, as the enemy which the U.S. supposedly needs Israel's help to combat, is Islamic terrorism. But the U.S. favor shown to Israel at the expense of the Palestinians only makes us more not less vulnerable to terrorism. Furthermore Israel's cruelty towards the Palestinians and its essential nature as a Jewish but not a truly democratic state in which all citizens of whatever ethnicity or religion would be given equal rights and respect, belie the "shared values" argument.
So if neither "shared values" nor "strategic asset" can explain the overwhelming U.S. support of Israel, what else is there? The power of the Israel lobby, which has brought about a situation in which it is impossible for elected officials to question support for Israel, much less redirect foreign policy in any way contrary to the perceived self-interest of Israel. This has led the U.S. to make critical mistakes, such as invading and occupying Iraq. The war on Iraq has proven disastrous; the authors argue that the U.S. would not have attacked Iraq, were it not for the influence of the Israel lobby.
In the end, perhaps what is most significant and remarkable about this book is that it has seen the light of day. It got published. Could it be that there is still hope for reasonable, open debate about the right courses of action in the Middle East? The authors have been and will continue to be vilified as anti-Semitic or worse. They are owed a debt of gratitude for having the courage to stand up and to refuse to be silenced.