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JohnWood
14th January 2012, 11:50 AM
As I explained to our esteemed "elders" before in my inquisition;), I have many years of experience working with correctional facilities. This includes various Washington State and Nevada Correctional facilities. Hence I also have alot of friends whom are working in the business of corrections. Being business-minded and all, I tried to understand how the correctional facilities really work. Currently the money is with the so-called "federal" detention centers. Not surprisingly, because feds are the ones with the big check book. State, county, city jails are going thru various rounds of austerity measures and so on and so forth..Like our federal reserve system, there is nothing federal about these "federal" detention centers. Private management companies like corrections corporations of America and GEO usually affiliate themselves with these federal detention centers to get a big share of taxpayers dollars..They use taxpayers money to build these private corrections. Feds also pay them via taxpayer money to house inmates. The latest figure that I got from my friends is that feds pay these corporation about $ 150-$ 300 a day for one inmate. The pay depends on the classification of the prisoners. Feds also subsidize them for transportation cost. Hence it is a win-win situation for these private management companies. Let's say the build a 2000 beds facility, feds pay them $ 200 per day, per inmate for 360 days a years. You can see numbers add up quickly..All in the courtesy of US taxpayers..
http://www.ccpoa.org/news/tags/tag/corrections+corporation+of+america

Correction Corporation of America Stock ticker..CXW, GEO ticker = GEO. Best to keep an eye out for these stocks..After all it is only your money at work here..LOL

JohnWood
14th January 2012, 11:59 AM
You guys will be surprised to know that ex-military guys make up most of these private corporation inmates...then comes illegal immigrants and etc...Hence it won't surprise any of you to deduce that the fed deems ex-military guys as their most serious threat..

palani
14th January 2012, 12:52 PM
There is no public any more. Everything associated with government (including prisons) is private.

Bigjon
14th January 2012, 01:19 PM
There is no public any more. Everything associated with government (including prisons) is private.

Link please?

palani
14th January 2012, 01:24 PM
Link please?

You can start here:

http://www.federalreserve.gov/

Bigjon
14th January 2012, 01:26 PM
You can start here:

http://www.federalreserve.gov/

Like I thought more bs.

palani
14th January 2012, 01:44 PM
Like I thought more bs.


MAN'S mind may be likened to a garden, which may be intelligently
cultivated or allowed to run wild; but whether cultivated or
neglected, it must, and will, _bring forth._ If no useful seeds are
_put_ into it, then an abundance of useless weed-seeds will _fall_
therein, and will continue to produce their kind.

Would you blame the seed for having fallen on fallow dirt?

BrewTech
14th January 2012, 01:56 PM
Like I thought more bs.

Fed finances .gov operation.

Fed is private.

How is what Palani posted BS?

Bigjon
14th January 2012, 02:22 PM
Fed finances .gov operation.

Fed is private.

How is what Palani posted BS?


There is no public any more. Everything associated with government (including prisons) is private.

Blanket claim that there are no more public government entities with nothing to back it up with. One example could be just an exception to the rule.

I am not against what is claimed, but I can't use bs to enlighten my circle of friends without being called out and discrediting everything I've said before.

palani
14th January 2012, 02:31 PM
Blanket claim that there are no more public government entities with nothing to back it up with. One example could be just an exception to the rule.

You are on this forum because you profess to believe in the power of gold or silver. How long has it been since you paid any of your "public" servants any specie at all?

Do you treat all of your servants in this manner?

Do you expect them to starve or go on welfare while you are deciding whether you want to support them or not?

Take yourself as my example. Rebut me if you can.

palani
14th January 2012, 02:33 PM
To accept the Kings schilling is to take a drink of a tankard and find a schilling in the bottom when the tankard is empty. It is the reason why pewter tankers have a glass bottom, so that the willing "victim" could not proclaim he did not knowingly accept the Kings schilling.

If you have military service behind you did you receive so much as a schilling? Or were you paid in FRN's? If so then for whom were you working?

Bigjon
14th January 2012, 03:53 PM
You are on this forum because you profess to believe in the power of gold or silver. How long has it been since you paid any of your "public" servants any specie at all?

Do you treat all of your servants in this manner?

Do you expect them to starve or go on welfare while you are deciding whether you want to support them or not?

Take yourself as my example. Rebut me if you can.

The U.S. government does many unconstitutional things, where does it say that unconstitutional means no public government?

palani
14th January 2012, 04:00 PM
The U.S. government does many unconstitutional things, where does it say that unconstitutional means no public government?

I'll leave as an exercise for you to discover where public servants in high offices are to have a bond with an oath subscribed on the reverse side. You may at the same time attempt to find out how many of them actually obey this law.

If you can uncover a single one I will be happy to admit there is at least one public employee.

Bigjon
14th January 2012, 04:32 PM
I'll leave as an exercise for you to discover where public servants in high offices are to have a bond with an oath subscribed on the reverse side. You may at the same time attempt to find out how many of them actually obey this law.

If you can uncover a single one I will be happy to admit there is at least one public employee.

So You have a theory, but you can't say for sure. Exactly the kind of thing that can be discussed among acolytes, but not ready for the sheeple.

palani
14th January 2012, 04:43 PM
So You have a theory, but you can't say for sure. Exactly the kind of thing that can be discussed among acolytes, but not ready for the sheeple.

Of course I can say for sure.

I published a legal notice requiring any public servant that wanted to be a part of my government to send me a copy of their oath and bond. I received no takers. The applicants were to send their information to my notary assistant. She provided me with an affidavit that certifies that nobody wanted to participate. I recorded everything with the county recorder.

In a republic any citizen can discover a need worth doing and fill that need. I saw a need to have someone for public servants to give their oath to and I acted.

Now what have YOU done to uncover the facts? Dump on me? Have another go at it, mate, 'cause you are full of what you call me out on.

Bigjon
14th January 2012, 05:52 PM
Of course I can say for sure.

I published a legal notice requiring any public servant that wanted to be a part of my government to send me a copy of their oath and bond. I received no takers. The applicants were to send their information to my notary assistant. She provided me with an affidavit that certifies that nobody wanted to participate. I recorded everything with the county recorder.

In a republic any citizen can discover a need worth doing and fill that need. I saw a need to have someone for public servants to give their oath to and I acted.

Now what have YOU done to uncover the facts? Dump on me? Have another go at it, mate, 'cause you are full of what you call me out on.

It is a public record then and public records are available to anyone.
I'd like to see this public record.

palani
15th January 2012, 04:28 AM
It is a public record then and public records are available to anyone.
I'd like to see this public record.
Act like a public employee in my presence and you will see it. Otherwise it is recorded in the State of Iowa and you have the same opportunity to pay the State for it as any other member of the public.

Bigjon
15th January 2012, 10:42 AM
Act like a public employee in my presence and you will see it. Otherwise it is recorded in the State of Iowa and you have the same opportunity to pay the State for it as any other member of the public.


All your document proves is that you are ignored.

I think I will follow their lead and also ignore anything you have to offer as it won't fly in the real world.

palani
15th January 2012, 10:51 AM
All your document proves is that you are ignored.
Exactly. Tacita quaedam habentur pro expressis. Things silent are sometimes considered as expressed.


I think I will follow their lead and also ignore anything you have to offer as it won't fly in the real world. You should learn to discern between the imaginary world and the real world. In any event don't think your agreement is unappreciated.

Qui tacet consentire videtur. He who is silent appears to consent.

Hatha Sunahara
15th January 2012, 11:39 AM
My mind is absolutely boggled by the insanity of this. We don't bat an eyelash at spending $150-300 a day for incarcerating these people. But how many of them are non-violent marijuana smokers? I'm sure these people would welcome a deal where you give them $100 a day not to smoke marijuana, and not jail them. Or, legalize Marijuana and not jail anybody or pay them not to use it. Everybody would be better off because the degree of insanity in this is far less than what exists now. How can we afford this? We have the highest rate of incarceration in the world. Who's responsible for this idiocy? I, as a taxpayer, for one, don't see any practical way to challenge this waste of money, so it should go on forever, right?


Hatha

palani
15th January 2012, 12:28 PM
I, as a taxpayer, for one, don't see any practical way to challenge this waste of money, so it should go on forever, right?

Withhold your consent. It is not a hard concept. Without your consent (and funding) the machinery comes to a grinding halt.