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mick silver
15th January 2012, 06:09 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/phobos-grunt-failed-russian-mars-probe-entering-atmosphere/story?id=15354362 ... 11 tons of bad waste will be coming down on earth some weres ... just great ...
Somewhere, most likely Sunday or Monday, the failed Russian Phobos-Grunt (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/russia-scrambles-save-stranded-mars-moon-probe-phobos/story?id=14923797#.TxBgD1bNmJ5) Mars probe (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/russia-scrambles-save-stranded-mars-moon-probe-phobos/story?id=14923797#.TxBgD1bNmJ5) will return ignominiously to Earth, crashing -- at least figuratively -- on the Russian space agency Roscosmos.
Most of it will burn up in the atmosphere, but 20 to 30 chunks of charred debris, weighing about 450 lbs., could make it to the surface, said Roscosmos. Just where it might crash will not be clear until just hours before it actually happens.
Phobos-Grunt was launched toward Mars in November, but radio contact was lost and it never got beyond low Earth orbit.
The world's space agencies agreed that any one person's chances of getting hit by debris are tiny -- something like 1 in 20 trillion, based on the spacecraft's orbit and the amount of debris that might survive re-entry. . The chances that of the 7 billion people on Earth, one of them, somewhere, could be hit are more like 1 in 3,000.
If this sounds familiar, it should. Spent satellites fall from orbit all the time, though most burn up completely before anything reaches Earth's surface. There have been a few recent -- but harmless -- exceptions: NASA's UARS satellite (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/nasa-satellite-uars-entry-predicted-friday-afternoon-north/story?id=14579881#.TxBmIlbNmJ4) sent debris crashing into the Pacific in September, and the German ROSAT space telescope (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/nasa-satellite-uars-entry-predicted-friday-afternoon-north/story?id=14579881#.TxBmIlbNmJ4) scattered debris in the Indian Ocean in October.
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So the worst damage was to Russian pride. Roscosmos chief, Vladimir Popovkin, went so far as to suggest that someone had sabotaged the probe.
"It would not be desirable to accuse anybody, but today there are very powerful means of influence for space vehicles which cannot be excluded," he said in an interview with the Russian daily Izvestia, translated by ABC News. He gave no specifics, and sources say the U.S. government, mildly offended, stopped helping the Russians track their errant probe in its final days.
More likely, said space analysts, it was the Russians' own fault.
"Certainly the quality control was lacking," said Charles Vick, who follows Russian space efforts for GlobalSecurity.org, "and testing the spacecraft ... was never done due to lack of funds."
Phobos-Grunt (Phobos is one of Mars' two moons; Grunt is Russian for ground) had an ambitious mission -- to orbit Mars, land on Phobos, scoop up a soil sample, and bring it home for study. Astronauts have brought back moon rocks, and an American probe returned minute samples from the tail of a comet in 2006, but Mars has been seen as the next destination in space.

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Technology/ht_phobos_080411_mn.jpgThe Martian moon Phobos as seen by NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter in 2008.
Phobos, only 15 miles across, may be an asteroid that was captured by the gravity of Mars eons ago. Scientists would very much like to know what it is made of.
NASA's Opportunity rover, which landed on Mars in 2004, is still working, and a new, larger one, called Curiosity, is on the way there. In the half century since the space age began, Russia has tried and failed 19 times to reach Mars.
"Truly a travesty for the exploration of space," said Vick. "A loss for all concerned."

Golden
15th January 2012, 12:28 PM
Phobos Grunt Is Down is the Pacific

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PG Update.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46005190/ns/technology_and_science-space/#.TxMfb0...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16491457

Neuro
15th January 2012, 12:41 PM
The thing that came to mind, was Solid out on his boat in the pacific, and Phobos Grunt crashing into him...

Are you OK Solid? ;D

mightymanx
15th January 2012, 12:43 PM
Hell I need a punchcard first Skylab now the Ruskies bombing me with space crap.

gunDriller
15th January 2012, 04:45 PM
11 tons of high-value scrap metal.

i wouldn't mind having it land near me.

just not on me.

beefsteak
16th January 2012, 12:40 AM
Yeah, just think of the gold and silver protected electronics in that "space debris...," Gunny.

Glass
17th January 2012, 12:42 AM
Oops! Radar may have caused space crash
A US radar stationed on the Marshall Islands may have inadvertently disabled Russia's Mars probe, which crashed into the Pacific Ocean on Sunday, Kommersant newspaper reported, citing an unidentified Russian space official.

The radar may have jammed electronic communications with the $163 million Phobos-Grunt craft as it monitored asteroid movements, the official said, according to the Moscow-based newspaper, adding that this would have happened unintentionally.

The Phobos-Grunt probe, designed to return soil samples from one of the two Martian moons, became stuck in low-earth orbit after its November 9 launch.

"Grunt" is Russian for soil.

It is the latest setback after Russia celebrated the 50th anniversary of sending a man into orbit last year.

In August, the country lost its most powerful telecommunications satellite and a cargo-supply ship destined for the International Space Station.

Yuriy Ivanov, a Defence Ministry spokesman, dismissed earlier reports the fragments may have fallen into the Atlantic.

Roscosmos chief, Vladimir Popovkin, told Izvestia newspaper on January 10 that outside interference may be to blame for the series of mission failures.

"I don’t want to blame anyone, but today there are powerful means to affect the trajectory of spacecraft, and we can’t exclude that these have been deployed," Mr Popovkin told the Moscow-based daily.
While Phobos was an almost entirely new model and carried a higher risk of malfunction, the two earlier failures stemmed from "simple shoddiness" Mr Popovkin said.

Prosecutors blamed human error for the two failed space launches, blaming both incidents on negligence.

Russia’s failure to launch the probe to Mars dealt a "heavy blow" to the country's space industry, which may spend 2 trillion rubles ($64 billion) between 2016 and 2025 as it eyes a manned mission to the moon, according to Mr Popovkin.
Bloomberg
Article @ the Age (http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/oops-radar-may-have-caused-space-crash-20120117-1q4ea.html)