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midnight rambler
22nd January 2012, 11:39 AM
Our vaunted, honorable media not telling us about this aspect, huh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=djmPmP2FTPo

View the above link for a SC Recap and make sure to listen to Doug Wead explain the delegate count.
Gingrich and Santorum will not be on the ballot, did not qualify, in states that equal 564 Delegates.
This means that if Paul and Romney split those votes, that Santorum and Gingrich are already 282 votes behind them.

How many delegates are needed to win the nomination outright ?

Answer:

A Candidate needs to have a majority of the delegates to win.
The race is over if any one candiate gets 1245 delegates,
for that means they have slightly over 50% of the delegates and therefor a guarenteed majority.
Here is a bunch of info from www.republicansource.com (http://www.republicansource.com/) Total Number of Delegates:
2516 total delegates (although for 2008 convention there will only be 2380 because some states were sanctioned for
moving their primary/caucus dates prior to Feb. 5, 2008). See www.thegreenpapers.com (http://www.thegreenpapers.com/)

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_Total_number_of_republican_delegates#ixzz 1kDBkRnKH

BASE DELEGATES Each state selects six at-large delegates. American Samoa, Virgin Islands & Guam have four at-large delegates each; Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia have fourteen at-large delegates.
DISTRICT DELEGATES Each state also selects three delegates for each member it has in the U.S. House (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_delegates_does_a_republican_need_to_to_wi n_the_nomination#) of Representatives BONUS DELEGATES Each state can earn additional delegates by meeting one or more of the following requirements: the state cast a majority of its votes for the Republican presidential candidate in the previous presidential election, the state elected Republicans to the U.S. House or Senate, selected a Republican Governor or state legislative majorities, and / or the state holds its presidential primary election after March 15th (this is to discourage states from holding early primaries). Bonus delegates are awarded based on the number of party members elected as Presidential Electors (2004), Governors (2004-2007), House members (2004-2007), Senators (2002-2007), and state legislatures (2004-2007). Republican delegate counts are based on the number of Republicans elected to the State Legislatures, Governors chairs, U.S. House seats, and U.S. Senators seats through 31 December 2007. Republican unpledged delegate counts are determined by state (or equivalent) party rules and assume that the policies of 2004 will apply in 2008. When an individual formally releases delegates already pledged to him or her - a withdrawing candidate must specifically free his/her own delegates to vote for whomever they might choose during the Convention - it is not a requirement for those delegates to vote for another candidate who is endorsed by the withdrawing candidate. However, history has demonstrated that most, if not all, delegates pledged to a candidate who has released them will follow that candidate's lead and vote for the candidate he/she has endorsed. Nevertheless, a withdrawing candidate may not release delegates pledged to him/her so long as the presidential nomination is still undetermined (after all, these delegates can be a valuable bargaining chip for future considerations). Even where a nomination is already determined, a presidential candidate who represents the Party fringe might hold onto his delegates as long as possible in order to get concessions http://www.republicansource.com/primaries.htm


Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_delegates_does_a_republican_need_to_to_wi n_the_nomination#ixzz1kD6uGPh0

midnight rambler
22nd January 2012, 11:51 AM
And FWIW, last nite I saw on the Commie Nooz Nyetwork where they had a focus group and the question regarding Dr. Paul's 'electability' was put to the group in the most deriding way with the moderator/host mocking those who expressed support for Dr. Paul. It was a particularly disgusting display of wholesale perception management with the intent to disparage Dr. Paul's supporters.

Ares
22nd January 2012, 12:27 PM
And FWIW, last nite I saw on the Commie Nooz Nyetwork where they had a focus group and the question regarding Dr. Paul's 'electability' was put to the group in the most deriding way with the moderator/host mocking those who expressed support for Dr. Paul. It was a particularly disgusting display of wholesale perception management with the intent to disparage Dr. Paul's supporters.

Can't have the people wanting someone who isn't bought and paid for by the system now can we? I keep reading on GSUS and Dailypaul.com about Frothy and Salamander not being on the ballot in Virginia for sure and Missouri. So that's 2 states that they aren't on that I've been able to confirm. I did read that there is a bill in the Virginia statehouse that the Governor is promoting accepting "write ins". Since those 2 idiots couldn't garner enough support to even get on the ballot. Now you have the GOP losers trying to push through a bill to count write in's now.... Unfuckingbelivable

Cebu_4_2
22nd January 2012, 12:28 PM
Geez this stuff confuses me. If they are unelectable why were they up for votes?

midnight rambler
22nd January 2012, 04:27 PM
bump

midnight rambler
23rd January 2012, 10:05 AM
bump for the weekday crowd

Neuro
23rd January 2012, 10:17 AM
I don't understand why the delegate count is like this now:

Newt-23
Mitt-19
Santorum-13
Paul-3

This is an estimate from AP... According to this RP didn't get any delegates for his third in Iowa, got only 3 for NH... Can someone explain this?

Libertytree
23rd January 2012, 10:34 AM
I don't understand why the delegate count is like this now:

Newt-23
Mitt-19
Santorum-13
Paul-3

This is an estimate from AP... According to this RP didn't get any delegates for his third in Iowa, got only 3 for NH... Can someone explain this?

Yeah, they're BULLSHITTING you!

Neuro
23rd January 2012, 05:34 PM
Yeah, they're BULLSHITTING you!

Well I can see that this is bullshit, but when you google delegate count, this comes out on almost all top relevant threads. What is the actual delegate count now?

General of Darkness
23rd January 2012, 05:53 PM
My understanding is that delegates DO NOT have to vote for the person that the people in their district voted for. I suspect that there's probably more delegates for RP because people stayed around and got selected to be a delegate. ;)

Bildo
23rd January 2012, 05:54 PM
No one yet knows what the delegate count is for Iowa. Libertytree is right - they're bullshitting you. The caucus in Iowa was no more than a straw poll, the results have no legal meaning.

The purpose of the Iowa caucus is to elect delegates to go to the county convention, to get elected to go to the state convention, to get elected to go to the national convention.

We won't know until June how many delegates each candidate wins in Iowa.

Caucus: Tuesday 3 January 2012
County Conventions: Saturday 10 March 2012
District Statutory Caucus: Saturday 21 April 2012
State Convention: Saturday 16 June 2012