ORGANIC and GMO cannot co-exist. Lateral Transference = why.

[beefsteak]

Why GMO And Organic Can Not Co-Exist: Lateral Gene Transfer

January 22, 2012 Print Version (http://blacklistednews.com/?news_id=17519&print=1)

Sayer Ji, Contributing Writer


One of the most disturbing, though commonly overlooked properties of genetically modified organisms (GMOs) is their documented ability (http://www.greenmedinfo.com/keyword/gmos-and-horizontal-gene-transfer) to transfer genetic information horizontally into those who consume them.

This process actually occurs quite commonly in nature, especially among bacteria, which do not reproduce sexually and therefore have evolved a number of mechanisms through which to transfer genetic information directly between one another directly. Viruses themselves can essentially be described as 'pieces of genetic information in search of chromosomes,' their very "infectivity" being examples of horizontal gene transfer between species. The whole field of genetic engineering, in fact, would not exist were it not for the science and technology that harnesses and/or co-opts processes of horizontal gene transfer.

Technically speaking, horizontal gene transfer (also known as "lateral gene transfer") is the process by which an organism incorporates genetic material from another organism without being the offspring of that organism. Vertical transfer, on the other hand, occurs when an organism receives genetic material from its ancestor, e.g., its parent or a species from which it has evolved.

Animal research published (http://www.greenmedinfo.com/article/genetically-modified-lactic-acid-bacteria-can-transfer-genetic-information-e-faecalis-bacter) in 2003 in the journal of Environmental Biosafety Research showed that genetically modified lactic acid bacteria are capable of transferring recombinant genes sequences directly (horizontally) into Enteroccous faecalis, another naturally occurring species of digestive tract bacteria found in humans, as well.

Other animal research (http://www.greenmedinfo.com/article/orally-ingested-foreign-dna-mice-may-affect-chromosomal-activity-and-exhibits-placental-tran) on orally ingested foreign DNA not only shows it is capable of transferring to, and/or altering genetic information within, the animal consuming it, but is also capable of affecting the genetics of the fetuses and newborn of pregnant mice who were fed it.

The existence of a free flow of genetic information from food to organism, and then transplacentally, to the organism's future progeny, through horizontal gene transfer, illustrates just how true the age-old phrase "you are what you eat" is -- for better and for worse.

Perhaps more importantly is the revelation that there can be no "peaceful co-existence" between genetically modified foods and authentically natural ones, as the former by definition implies the irreversible transformation of the latter into itself. To state, as Whole Foods recently did (http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/did-whole-foods-sells-out-monsanto), that co-existence is possible between GM and non-GM foods, is like saying pregnancy and virginity can co-exist, under natural circumstances.

I believe it is time to openly identify GM food for what it is.



Because genetically modified foods can vectorize the dissemination of recombinant DNA sequences throughout the entire biosphere, as well as anyone who would consume them, they embody a virus-like quality of pathogenicity and could, without exaggeration, be identified as bioweapons of potential mass destruction.

Please visit GreenMedInfo (http://www.greenmedinfo.com/) to access their vast database of articles and the latest information in natural health. 



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Codex Alimentarius = Softkill/Depopulation.
Catherine Austin-Fitts is right!

[woodman]

Add to this Lateral transference the disturbing fact that these gmo crops can and do forever alter the genetic composition of their non-gmo counterparts. It is said that wild corn varieties in the mountains of Mexico now are forever polluted with gmo genetics. It is a crime against the present and the future to let these monstrosities loose upon the world.

[PatColo]

notice first hour guest on Kevin Barrett's radio show, MP3 link:

01/23/2012 (http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/archive/Truth-Jihad-32k-012312.mp3) Monday - 1st Hour: With Pam Larry. 2nd Hour: With William Veale.


Monday, January 23, 2012

"Label GMOs" activist Pamm Larry, 9/11 truth-seeking attorney William Veale (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.com/2012/01/label-gmos-activist-pamm-larry-911.html)

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First hour: Pamm Larry of LabelGMOs.or (http://www.labelgmos.org/)g (http://www.labelgmos.org/), a.k.a. The Committee for the Right to Know.

If the big food companies are putting out frankenfoods containing genetically modified organisms, shouldn't they have to at least tell us on the label?! The big food companies' only argument against labeling GMOs is that they'll lose sales. Don't we have the right to buy the kind of food WE want?

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Later, after discussions with many Pentagon co-workers who agreed that none had seen any evidence of a plane crash, Gallop grew skeptical of the official version of 9/11, and wound up suing Cheney et. al. for perpetrating the attacks. After losing at the first level and appealing to a three judge federal panel, Gallop's lawyer William Veale was shocked to learn that one of the three judges, John Walker, was George Bush's cousin! Nonplussed that Walker hadn't already recused himself due to the obvious conflict of interest, Veale filed a motion for recusal. Walker and the other two judges not only rejected Veale's motion, but sanctioned him for even asking for the recusal! Now, in their final decision, Bush cousin Judge John Walker and his two co-panelists have sanctioned Veale and ordered him to pay a $15,000 fine for allegedly being "in bad faith" when he asked Bush's cousin to recuse himself from judging a case alleging horrific crimes by the Bush administration!

Compared to this, Alice in Wonderland's trial was a model of judicial probity.

We need to find out where Judge John Walker lives, and start staging noisy demonstrations outside his house demanding that he step down from the federal bench.
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[gunDriller]

makes me wonder if the GMO micro-monsters that we excrete after eating food with a GMO source - which most of us do, unless we are on a strict home-grown/ organic diet (which is expensive if you buy it at the store) - i wonder if the GMO micro-monsters can be nuked by cooking them at 160 F in a proper hot compost pile.

[Twisted Titan]

Unless you grow it yourself or look in the eye of the farmer your food is badly compromised.

And that is by design

[gunDriller]

Unless you grow it yourself or look in the eye of the farmer your food is badly compromised.

And that is by design

what if the farmer buys their seeds from Monsanto ?

[PatColo]

this is from a blog, yet the headline is the only thing which refers to an 'imminent whistle-blower' - fails to substantiate that claim any further, and thus the claim must be dismissed until further notice. But I don't put anything past Monsanto, and I suspect they're neck-deep in the bee die-off phenomenon. Also see: Chemtrails and Monsanto’s New Aluminum Resistance Gene – Coincidence? UPDATE (http://farmwars.info/?p=2927)

Posted on January 4, 2012 (http://judicial-corruption.net/2012/01/04/soon-to-be-whistleblower-who-worked-for-monsanto-will-be-releasing-documents-detailing-how-monsanto-planned-to-kill-off-bee-colonies-in-order-to-introduce-a-new-and-improved-species-of-bee-that-wi/)
Soon to be whistleblower who worked for Monsanto will be releasing documents detailing how Monsanto planned to kill off bee colonies in order to introduce a “new and improved” species of bee that will only pollinate Monsanto crops (http://judicial-corruption.net/2012/01/04/soon-to-be-whistleblower-who-worked-for-monsanto-will-be-releasing-documents-detailing-how-monsanto-planned-to-kill-off-bee-colonies-in-order-to-introduce-a-new-and-improved-species-of-bee-that-wi/)



Relevant: Monsanto buys company researching death of bees:
September 28, 2011, 1:59PM ET Monsanto buys bee-friendly pesticide researcher (http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9Q1M0UO0.htm)


And for those who said crops aren’t pollinated by bees? You’re wrong. Alfalfa is
Mysterious, Massive Disappearance/Death of US Honey Bees – Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD) (http://blog.targethealth.com/?p=58)


And if you think Monsanto isn’t dominating our government? Read some cables released by wikileaks all about our officials asking for talking points from them, our ambassadors urging trade wars on their behalf:
Wikileaks Cables Show U S Threatening Retaliation if Europe Won’t Accept Monsanto Corn (http://themomu.wordpress.com/2011/04/02/wikileaks-cables-show-u-s-threatening-retaliation-if-europe-wont-accept-monsanto-corn/)


Additional info, Vanity Fair:

May 2008
Investigation

Monsanto’s Harvest of Fear (http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/05/monsanto200805?currentPage=1)

Monsanto already dominates America’s food chain with its genetically modified seeds. Now it has targeted milk production. Just as frightening as the corporation’s tactics–ruthless legal battles against small farmers–is its decades-long history of toxic contamination.

http://www.vanityfair.com/dam/politics/2008/05/poar03_monsanto0805.jpg

[PatColo]

The 'Monsanto Rider': Are Biotech Companies About to Gain Immunity from Federal Law? (http://www.alternet.org/food/156195/the_%27monsanto_rider%27:_are_biotech_companies_ab out_to_gain_immunity_from_federal_law/?page=entire)

"A so-called “Monsanto rider,” quietly slipped into the multi-billion dollar FY 2013 Agricultural Appropriations bill, would require – not just allow, but require - the Secretary of Agriculture to grant a temporary permit for the planting or cultivation of a genetically engineered crop, even if a federal court has ordered the planting be halted until an Environmental Impact Statement is completed. "

more:
http://www.alternet.org/food/156195/the_%27monsanto_rider%27:_are_biotech_companies_ab out_to_gain_immunity_from_federal_law/?page=entire

[beefsteak]

what if the farmer buys their seeds from Monsanto ?
THAT, my friend is the point of this whole GMO thing...with one exception...DuPont is also playing the same GMO game, only garnering less headlines. Probably should be keeping a closer eye on the DuPont shell-game sideshow.


beefsteak

[beefsteak]

makes me wonder if the GMO micro-monsters that we excrete after eating food with a GMO source - which most of us do, unless we are on a strict home-grown/ organic diet (which is expensive if you buy it at the store) - i wonder if the GMO micro-monsters can be nuked by cooking them at 160 F in a proper hot compost pile.

According to the following, Gunny, 160°F won't do it. But here's what reportedly will.





asgardshill
DNA is a nucleic acid consisting of a nitrogenous heterocyclic base, a pentose sugar, and a phosphate group. DNA can be destroyed by the same substances that can destroy other human tissue - intense heat, strong ionizing radiation, a strong base such as sodium hydroxide, or a strong acid such as hydrofluoric acid.

http://www.funtrivia.com/img/i/s_link.gifhttp://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=45471



Oct 13 09, 12:42 AM








Zbeckabee http://www.funtrivia.com/redstar.gif
ALSO:

Bacteria can destroy DNA and make analysis impossible.

http://www.funtrivia.com/img/i/s_link.gifhttp://indy.gov/eGov/County/FSA/Documents/DNA%20Analysis.pdf

Bacteria that Cause Food Poisoning Contain Toxins That Destroy DNA.

http://www.funtrivia.com/img/i/s_link.gifhttp://opa.yale.edu/news/article.aspx?id=3376



Oct 13 09, 1:27 PM






http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question109554.html


Yours truly has NO clue who these two responders are, just oogled "does heat destroy DNA?"


beefsteak
PS...anyone using hydrofluoric outside of a lab controlled setting or in a tantalum processing application for just 2 illustrative, commercial applications, needs their heads examined. SERIOUSLY!

[mick silver]

this stuff scares me . just how are we going to stop this , are is it to late . time maybe shorter then we can under stand RIGHT NOW . what i dont see is there no leaders stopping this we are so f...ed

[PatColo]

Some good articles @ Barbara Peterson's Farm Wars,

America – Just Label GMOs Already!!! (http://farmwars.info/?p=9040)


The Battle over Genetically Modified Organisms (http://farmwars.info/?p=9027)


Monsanto Capitalizes on Drought and Enslaves Farmers (http://farmwars.info/?p=9009)


WHY in the World Are They Spraying? Lifts Veil on Geo-engineering (http://farmwars.info/?p=8970)

[ShortJohnSilver]

You wonder, assuming that the cycles of technological progress were there before Noah, if the reason for the great Flood was because everything was bio-poisoned via GMO or something like it, and there was a need to start fresh.

[joboo]

Sad part is they care more about share price, and market share, than life itself.

Gotta get their cut, and screw everything else.

It's essentially a full on f-cking disgrace.

[Blink]

this stuff scares me . just how are we going to stop this , are is it to late . time maybe shorter then we can under stand RIGHT NOW . what i dont see is there no leaders stopping this we are so f...ed

There is a way, but people "will not" unite to do it (multitude of distractions and all), so waiting to see how it all plays out seems to be the direction we're going. Hope we're not all dead by then...........

[Tumbleweed]

Monsanto is a Jew owned corporation and their god is money and satan. The gmo feeds they promote probably caussed me a loss of 60 to 80 thousand dollars last year. The link below is to a post on another forum where the history of monsanto is discussed. SOB's

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25949-The-real-truth-about-monsanto

[joboo]

This should warm your cockles...

Monsanto Award of $1 Billion Against DuPont Reveals New Dimension of Genetic Patent Wars (http://www.activistpost.com/2012/08/monsanto-award-of-1-billion-against.html)

"A huge verdict has come down on the side of Monsanto in the absurd amount of $1 billion to be paid by competitor DuPont. While it might seem like something to almost be happy about, since DuPont is yet another mega chemical corporation which has been implicated in damage to the environment (http://www.yourlawyer.com/topics/overview/Imprelis-DuPont-herbicide-tree-death-side-effects-lawsuit) and human health (http://www.crocodyl.org/wiki/dupont), this potentially sets a bad precedent to be cited in future legal verdicts, thus giving Monsanto even more legal standing and power. Perhaps most ominous of all, this legal victory was granted for a product that was never even on the market, taking on a new dimension in the area of patent infringement. (Source (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120808/05265219961/monsanto-awarded-one-billion-dollars-due-to-patent-infringement-product-that-was-never-market.shtml))"

[PatColo]

Monsanto is a Jew owned corporation and their god is money and satan.

Monsanto Co. (MON) (http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=MON+Interactive#symbol=mon;range=my;comp are=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on; ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined;)

big run from '03 (< $10) to '08 ($140), big take down H2 '08, now approaching 52 week high, could break out for another big run soon.



RPT-BAY STREET-U.S. drought creates winners, losers among Canada shrs (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/finance/external/reuters/SIG=12n1baa31/*http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/13/canada-column-markets-idUSL2E8JAIGG20120813?feedType=RSS&feedName=industrialsSector&rpc=43) at Reuters Mon, Aug 13
Drought in U.S: One Man's Pain is Another Man's Gain (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/finance/external/mfool/SIG=12pistujn/*http://beta.fool.com/yashup/2012/08/12/drought-us-one-mans-pain-another-mans-gain/9322/?source=eogyholnk0000001) at Motley Fool Sun, Aug 12
[$$] Harvesting the Green (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/finance/external/barrons/SIG=12kgo1l7j/*http://online.barrons.com/article/SB50001424053111904239304577573613512308728.html?r u=yahoo&mod=yahoobarrons) at Barrons.com Sat, Aug 11
Argentina will approve new GM soy seeds this week (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/finance/external/reuters/SIG=12f6g9p4j/*http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/13/argentina-soy-idUSL2E8JD76T20120813?feedType=RSS&feedName=basicMaterialsSector&rpc=43) at Reuters Mon, Aug 13


would it be sinful to buy said joo owned satanist corp, putting any profits towards good not evil?^^^

It seems their evil plan to take over world food supply is all but fait accompli. Esp if the various conspiracies IE chemtrails & MON's being a driving force behind it, engineered drought for engineered famine, MON's chemtrail-metal resistant GMO seeds etc are real, as I believe they are. Gummit in their pocket- taxpayers footing the bill for MON's chemtrail global food supply takeover uber-racket... (and weather-control with insiders trading futures/options on "what weather will mother nature deliver next?")

[beefsteak]

PatColo,

truthfully?

Would said profiteering not place oneself in the exact same position as the despised global bankers?

Looks from here to be a GLOWING example of breaking, at the very least, the 10th of the Ten Commandments, plus others #2, #5, #6, #8, as well. While one may not "immediately drop dead" from violating #'s 10, 2, 5, 6, and 8, the consequences are immediate, concurrent, and permanently indelible on one's soul, albeit forgiveable by the Creator of All, but still indelible scars, even if/when forgiveness is earnestly sought/requested and granted as promised in Holy Writ.

I'm struck again, this morning, by the accompanying words recorded by Moses which translate roughly in the King James as
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them [graven images of Commandment #2], nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; If I'm not mistaken, this is not the only passage that speaks to the infliction of damage to yet unborn generations based upon our own damaged state and subsequent behaviours whether deliberate or ignorant.

Reading on another site, "Global Culling has begun and 10 strategies to flip the odds in my favor" I've drawn a straight line between the red admonition/truth above and the conclusion drawn by modern science as to the DNA damage/egg production influence of our precious female partners that extend at least to the 3rd Generation in this Adamic lineage from which we sprang. God have mercy.

The beguiling siren lyric of capitalism has its downside/shortcomings, yes?


beefsteak

[Tumbleweed]

would it be sinful to buy said joo owned satanist corp, putting any profits towards good not evil?^^^

)


Pat: Last year I had 75 head of cows out of 250 aborted their fetuses do to feed made from gmo distillers grain. Don Huber explains how it works. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4swW9OFmf8

He put me in touch with a researcher at a college who is studying the new organism that tested the feed I had for the organism. The feed I had was really loaded with the organism and the fellow doing the research told me their was no doubt in his mind that it was the feed that caused them to abort. Don Huber in his videos esplains how this organism passes through the meat from cattle fed gmo feed to women. It causes infertility in women too. I don't think god would be to happy with those who are making money this way. I think those profiting would be looked on the same way as the moneychangers in the temple were when Jesus delt with them.

[mick silver]

as i seat here i wonder how many of those people that work at those seed company eat the stuff they make for us all to eat ?

[beefsteak]

Tumbleweed,

having raised cattle in my younger years--went the AI route--since I decided against feeding the Angus bull year- round, whether keeping him penned or worrying about him breaking a leg in gopher holes upon in the BLM range, etc., yours truly was astonished at your 30% loss of calves. That's just one generation's worth.

And GMO is only one of your problems. DNA damage from Fukushima fallout on the grass-fed cattle is the OTHER significant, double jeapordy your stock 'n trade is now facing, big time. This could DOUBLE your referenced abortion rate if not more!!!!!!!!!!

Noticed you didn't speak to what percentage of heifers your brood herd usually throw vs. steers, which would represent the exponential loss from just this year's calf crop.

Nor did you allude to what your plans were due to the 30% who aborted, since you now have incontrovertable proof of DNA damage, let alone high probability of them not throwing any additional live calves "next season."

I don't know of ANY business plan, other than mining, which can sustain a 30% haircut right off the top and stay in business very long. And mining can only "give away up to Sinclair's flaunted 45% of the top" because the value of their final throughput is increasing at least if involved in PMs or rare-earths' or strategic metals' categories.

So, are you going to experience any difficulty in running this through the local auctions without telling the world of the aborted calves records, now that ranchers are required to tag all and track all cattle in this "brave new big brother" world? Or are these going to end up ground up for dog food, etc?

Serious and concerned inquiries from one who has been ridiculed by you in the past, something about me not being manly enough or jew-hater enough to suit you. So, set that aside and respond if you will. I DO feel your concern from a former cattle raiser viewpoint.

Perhaps, other than crazy chicken who also raises cattle (Colorado?) and who has quit posting on this forum, I feel your pain and would truly like your return dialog on this matter near and dear to your very survival whether as a hired cowboy or the owner of the "lil' dogggies" you're herding.


beefsteak

[PatColo]

THanks for the replies beefsteak & tumbleweed. Excellent food for thought. I was actually considering long-term call options, since they don't add to the "demand" for MON stock; they're once-removed, just speculating on which way the stock will go, while not actually fueling that move (up or down). Just looking at a bullish long term chart, of a corp which appears to be cornering their market. But the morality question does have to weigh in regardless. :)

Tumble, I wonder if you're part of some sort of cattle association, many of whom likely had similar loss experiences, with whom you could discuss a class-action suit against Monsanto? Might have to be in cooperation with your feed suppliers, coz less successfully reproduced cattle = less feed sales for them. All dick-stabbers should be pointed at the root, monsanto's junk. Through MON's pattern of contractual/legal thuggery in relation to farmers, it's getting really hard to get food/feed which is NOT GMO.

[beefsteak]

YW, PatColo.

You bring up a good point, aka

"getting really hard to get food/feed which is NOT GMO"

Sterilized via one Monsanto derivative removed, using skillful option writing strategies is a good source of income, granted. Don't believe my earlier response would be molified, if that is a query on your part. Would caution you if you proceed, that Monsanto is not the only gorilla in that space....while still the largest, DuPont is carving out market share, enough so that it has registered on my peripheral radar in the last couple months or so.

Cattle, of course, are NOT the only livestock category subjected to this depopulation via GMO convention. Add in poutry, as well.

For instance, Helen has shown me in recent weeks the ENORMOUS TO ME ANYWAY SIZE of a single 14week old, chick breast. She's been buying in bulk through a local grocer. Have you seen the enormous size of these creatures' white meat breasts?

Part of me is waiting for the 'other shoe to drop' in the Tyson dominated (gorilla in the space) poultry industry. And feeling "fear" as I await those nasty revelations, similar to what is shared by Tumbleweed, and his peers.

It is a known fact that poultry prices have maintained if not slightly dipped this current season for some unknown to me reason.

GMO laying mash is from the same ilk, yes? Wonder if gunny will weigh in on this topic re: his small flock and his feeding ration/routine...


beefsteak

[Tumbleweed]

Tumbleweed,

having raised cattle in my younger years--went the AI route--since I decided against feeding the Angus bull year- round, whether keeping him penned or worrying about him breaking a leg in gopher holes upon in the BLM range, etc., yours truly was astonished at your 30% loss of calves. That's just one generation's worth.

And GMO is only one of your problems. DNA damage from Fukushima fallout on the grass-fed cattle is the OTHER significant, double jeapordy your stock 'n trade is now facing, big time. This could DOUBLE your referenced abortion rate if not more!!!!!!!!!!

Noticed you didn't speak to what percentage of heifers your brood herd usually throw vs. steers, which would represent the exponential loss from just this year's calf crop.

Nor did you allude to what your plans were due to the 30% who aborted, since you now have incontrovertable proof of DNA damage, let alone high probability of them not throwing any additional live calves "next season."

I don't know of ANY business plan, other than mining, which can sustain a 30% haircut right off the top and stay in business very long. And mining can only "give away up to Sinclair's flaunted 45% of the top" because the value of their final throughput is increasing at least if involved in PMs or rare-earths' or strategic metals' categories.

So, are you going to experience any difficulty in running this through the local auctions without telling the world of the aborted calves records, now that ranchers are required to tag all and track all cattle in this "brave new big brother" world? Or are these going to end up ground up for dog food, etc?

Serious and concerned inquiries from one who has been ridiculed by you in the past, something about me not being manly enough or jew-hater enough to suit you. So, set that aside and respond if you will. I DO feel your concern from a former cattle raiser viewpoint.

Perhaps, other than crazy chicken who also raises cattle (Colorado?) and who has quit posting on this forum, I feel your pain and would truly like your return dialog on this matter near and dear to your very survival whether as a hired cowboy or the owner of the "lil' dogggies" you're herding.


beefsteak


Beefsteak: I have you confused with crazychicken it appears. I did have some unkind thoughts about some of your posts and I expressed them. Where do you stand when it comes to Jewery? Have you read "the plot against the church"? "The Talmud Unmasked"? "The Curse of Canaan"? "The New HIstory of the Jews"? These are just a few that are pretty enlightening about what is happening in this country and all over the world. It's nothing new. There's a pattern to it and the Jews are always involved. It you study the history of the Jews there's a pattern appears in all the countrys they inhabit and it leads to the destruction of those countrys. It's been going on for the last three thousand years. I like straight talk, no bullshit.

I don't just believe everything I'm told or read. I look around for confirmation on what I've read or heard. There's plenty of confirmation I see around me of what I've read about the Jews and what is wrong with this country and others around the world. I have some insight in to what goes on right under the noses of the goyim farmers and ranchers who are being taken advantage of in their marketing. I belong to a couple of cattlemens organizations who fight them continualy but they seem to have no idea who they are really fighting and won't believe it when you tell them. They are too brainwashed by the main stream media owned by Jews. Jews control the feeding and packing industry and they rob the goyim on a regular basis at the auction markets.

Those cows that aborted their fetuses were sold imediately. They were all cows who were young and had just raised their first calf. The cost of feeding them until they could be rebred was prohibitive. That makes it even worse. You're right about farmers or ranchers having a hard time withstanding that sort of loss. Don Huber told me of many situations where producers have been put out of business or are on their way out because of it. Monsanto is covering it up and researchers have lost their jobs if they speak up about this. That's why I didn't mention the name of the researcher who did the feed analysis for me.


When it comes to the radiation situation with Fukushima I think we're screwed. About the only thing we can do is take vit. C and a few other supplements that may help us avoid cancer for awhile. Pandoras box has been opened at Fukushima and it can't be closed. The cattle and horses have to eat even if the grass is radiated and so do we.


The bull and heifer calves tend to be close to fifty percent every year. There is always some variation but not to much. I've stopped feeding all supplement to the cows that comes from gmo's. The gmo feed affects the cattles immunity to disease and I've had the healthiest cows and calves this year that I've had for a long time. I'm skilled in the care of cattle and using horses to tend them. That makes me a cowboy. I own the cattle and the land I run them on so that makes me a rancher.


I'm angry that monsanto has contaminated almost all of the supplemtal feed that is out there. Alfalfa is the last source of suplemental feed for protein and they are contaminating that as well. I'm surrounded by people like myself who are struggling to find feed to keep their cattle because of the drought. The gmo feed loaded with the organism that causes abortion is everywhere. The people who will buy lots of it are almost totaly unaware of what it can do. Monsanto is trying to cover it up. The high cost of the feed and the possibility of abortion will be just one more blow to their ability to survive in the cattle business. The feed dealers are keeping their mouths shut when they are told about the problem because they will be put out of business if they tell the truth.


Beefsteak I don't hate the Jews but I do hate what they do. If you haven't read I. B. Pranaitis "The Talmud unmasked" you should. The Talmud is the holiest book of the Jews and it is a guide for them in their dealings with the goyims. Anyone who defends them or what they do may become the focus of some unkind words from me.


Our government, big pharma, grain, cattle feeding, the packing industry and others seem to be controlled by the usual suspects. I have to take responsibility for whether I succeed of fail in the cow business. Part of being successful is keeping an eye on what will put me out of business and when I look around there always seems to be a Jew at the root of the problems. SOB's


The 30% loss won't break me but another one could so I have to take measures to avoid it. I do my best to make others aware that what happened to me could happen to them and who's behind the corporation that brought on this destruction and continues to do so. That's all I have time for this morning I've got to get to work. Thankyou for your concern for my troubles in the cow business. I can't apologize for giving you a hard time if you are a defender of the Jews. If you are you need to read some of the books I've mentioned then take a good look around. that's what Ive done and I don't like what I find.

[PatColo]

Merchants of Death and Disease – GMO’s Part 1 (http://keystoliberty.wordpress.com/2012/07/16/merchants-of-death-and-disease-gmos-part-1/)
Merchants of Death and Disease -GMO’s (part 2) (http://keystoliberty.wordpress.com/2012/08/03/merchants-of-death-and-disease-gmos-part-2/)

[PatColo]

as i seat here i wonder how many of those people that work at those seed company eat the stuff they make for us all to eat ?

February 29, 2012Gates and Rockefeller Cafeterias Reject Monsanto GE Foods! (http://templestream.blogspot.com/2012/02/gates-and-rockefeller-cafeterias-reject.html)

^ some confusion over monsanto's cafeterias

[beefsteak]

tumbleweed,
...thanks for your response to my questions about your cattle .

.....my "jewry feelings" can be summed up thusly...
there are the 'original Jews' whom I'm sympathetic to, and in unwavering support of. And then there are the pretend Jews of dubious origins whose nefarious and dastardly behaviors are well documented and pervasive in modern times. I even have some of the latter in my intimate family circle. It's tough "loving" them in their "adopted status" believe me.

....I believe the Holocaust occurred and am appalled by it's reality. I believe non-jewish deaths were also caused by this historical event. I'm no more let alone no less appalled re: other ethnic purges which I also believe have horrifically occurred with nauseating regularity across the eons of time.

I'm a follower of the Jeshua. He is my Savior and my King.


beefsteak

[beefsteak]

PatColo,
it was a mere few hours after penning to you my lines above re: the DuPont ascendency vs Monsanto, that the news hit the wires that Monsanto won a billion+ dollar settlement against encroachment by DuPont.

Did you catch that?


beefsteak

[PatColo]

^ sorry missed that at the time, and no I didn't catch it! thanks.

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[PatColo]

90 mins, haven't watched yet but plan to. Promising title anyways. I'll return with any impressions after viewing, and invite others to do the same.

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[PatColo]

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The leaders of Big Agriculture--Monsanto, DuPont, Syngenta--are determined that world's populations remain ignorant about the serious health and environmental risks of genetically modified crops and industrial agriculture. Deep layers of deception and corruption underlie both the science favoring GMOs and the corporations and governments supporting them.

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Posted by Mami (http://www.blogger.com/profile/13298385482303078866) at 10:27 PM 2 comments: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=1945483399586945167)

[goldleaf]

Beefsteak and Tumbleweed, I bred about 3500 first service cows per year back in the '70's. In those days if you dropped below 70% conception you got your butt chewed out. Got out of the biz to do other things. Last fall a local technician lost his relief guy and asked me if I would fill in a couple days a week and I accepted. I can't believe how bad conception is these days, many farms running 40 to 50% conception. When talking to the farmers its amazing how many of the low conception herds are feeding Gmo corn. Even the ones that do'nt raise it are buying d.g.'s and getting it there.I came across an article by a vet who had been doing some research on this and he was noticing that the ovaries in breeding age heifers werw under developed, ovaries the size of peas when they should be about the size of lima beans. Quite possibly this is being done on purpose for human population control.

Now for a bit of good news, a local seedcorn salesman has told me that he gets more and more farmers going back to the regular hybrids because of price, better yields and the weeds becoming resistant to roundup. One farmer that turns his beef cows onto the cornfields every fall put them in a 60 acre field and they just stood there and bellowed. He had to start feeding round bales. Another customer that is organic raises and sells open pollinated seed corn. All around his fields are GMO corn. I asked him about the cross polination thing and he told me there is a limit to what it can be and still be considered organic. I can't remember what the cutoff number is but the test on his corn was coming back at .0015% gmo and has not hardly changed in the last 5 years. I'm cautiously optimistic that people are gradually waking up, lets just hope it isn't to late.

[Cebu_4_2]

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[PatColo]

Monday, August 5, 2013
Monsanto Stock in Danger, Investor Warns (http://www.care2.com/greenliving/investor-warns-monsanto-stock-leaves-bad-aftertaste.html)

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I was shocked to read a story in Canada’s highly conservative national newspaper, The Globe and Mail (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/investment-ideas/strategy-lab/growth-investing/this-food-stock-has-a-bad-aftertaste/article13488677/), a couple of days ago in which well-known investor and columnist Chris Umiastowski, P.Eng., MBA, warned of the risk in holding Monsanto stock. It was refreshing to read the views of an investor who is not just concerned about the bottom line but also the potential health and environmental risks in such a conservative paper. I knew that this was a victory-of-sorts for all of us who share a concern over the increasingly genetically-modified nature of our food supply.

***Read article at care2.com*** (http://www.care2.com/greenliving/investor-warns-monsanto-stock-leaves-bad-aftertaste.html)

[PatColo]

OVER EIGHT HUNDRED WORLD SCIENTISTS AGREE: GM CROPS ARE NOTHING SHORT OF A BIO-WAR ON OUR FOOD



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You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to understand why genetically modified foods are dangerous, but if you look closely, you may just find the name of one listed among the names of more than 800 scientists from around the globe who have joined forces in an open letter to all world governments, outlining their detailed concerns over the alarming potential threat of biotech’s unauthorized, worldwide GM foods experiment.


***Read article at WAKE UP CALL***
http://wakeupcallnews.blogspot.com/2013/08/over-800-world-scientists-agree-gm.html

[Cebu_4_2]

This is so forgotten you need to post here and also a new thread.

[PatColo]

@ Dr. Tracy's blog; see link for 31+ reader comments

March 17, 2014 (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/03/17/france-bans-gmo-corn/)
France Bans GMO Corn (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/03/17/france-bans-gmo-corn/) 31 (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/03/17/france-bans-gmo-corn/#comments) Home (http://memoryholeblog.com/category/home/) • Tags: environmentalism (http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/environmentalism/), GMOs (http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/gmos/), public health (http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/public-health/)
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On March 15th France’s agriculture ministry banned the sale, use and cultivation of Monsanto’s MON 810 genetically modified (GM) maize, one of two varieties currently authorized by the European Union.


More… (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/03/17/france-bans-gmo-corn/#more-10054)

[mick silver]

good read pat

[PatColo]

Down under: 39 min mp3 & full transcript inside:

Big food fight continues after Senator Fiona Nash controversy (http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/backgroundbriefing/2014-03-30/5350092)



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Sunday 30 March 2014 8:05AM

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(http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/big-food-fight/5351170)
The controversy surrounding a plan to put nutrition rating labels on processed foods has already claimed the job of the Assistant Minister for Health's chief of staff. The stoush has revealed the deep links between 'big food' and the government, writes Ann Arnold.