Porn That Women Like:

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Did the title of this thread get all the GSUS ladies clicking on it?

Of cource the star is a Jew

Porn That Women Like: Why Does It Make Men So Uncomfortable?
By J. Bryan Lowder
Posted Thursday, Nov. 17, 2011, at 1:35 PM ET
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Adult film actor James Deen arrives at the Adult Video News Awards Show
Photo by Ethan Miller/Getty Images.
In the winter issue of Good Magazine, Amanda Hess has a fascinating profile of James Deen, a young, handsome porn star who is becoming famous for actually appealing to women. Due to his boyish, slightly skate-punk aesthetic, naturally toned body, and ability to connect emotionally (or at least appear to) with his female co-stars, Deen has garnered a following of devoted young women in an industry that in most cases ignores them entirely. Hess explains that Deen’s school-boy charm is what makes him approachable—and sexy—to his female fans:

Deen has carved out a niche in the porn industry by looking like the one guy who doesn’t belong there. Scroll through L.A.’s top porn agency sites and you’ll find hundreds of pouty women ready to drop to their knees, but just a few dozen men available to have sex with them. These guys all have a familiar look—neck chains, frosted tips, unreasonable biceps, tribal tattoos. Deen looks like he was plucked from a particularly intellectual frat house.

Hess goes on to discuss why there aren’t more guys like Deen in the male porn-star stable, and her findings tell us just as much about male viewers’ hang-ups as they do about women’s erotic preferences. Part of the problem is that men (who largely control the porn industry) imagine that women want everything big—“Big arms. Big abs. Big dicks,” as Hess puts it—when what they really want is something a little less overwrought. One of Hess’ subjects described her attraction to Deen thusly: “He was almost like a guy that you would just hang out with at Hebrew school.”

But the real obstacle to the proliferation of female-friendly male porn stars is, oddly, a rather nasty and subtle strain of homophobia, revealed in the following double-bind:

The straight male performer must be attractive enough to serve as a prop, but not so attractive that he becomes the object of desire.

Hess is spot on. Men need to see a penis in straight porn (presumably to stand in for their own), but not one that is attached to a guy who might be threateningly attractive, not to mention plausibly appealing to the woman involved. Maybe this insistence on a male blank slate (a kind of reverse objectification, when you think about it) makes it easier to project oneself onto the disembodied penis, but it also protects men from the potentially scary experience of being turned on by both partners of a heterosexual encounter—which, yes, does involve another dude. In other words, the bland interchangeability of the “unreasonable” looking men allows them to avoid confronting the terrifying specter of homosexuality.

Hess’ informants within the industry confirm this when they explain that a man simply cannot be the focus of a porn flick (in the film itself or even on the video cover) because consumers will be spooked. The sad thing here is that in this arrangement, everyone loses: Women can’t get the kind of porn they want from the mainstream (there are, of course, many excellent indie outfits who make great lady-centric films), an insidious kind of abstract homophobia is reinforced and, perhaps worst of all, many straight male viewers suffer unnecessary emotional and sexual stunting.

It’s telling that it was a woman, Pamela Peaks, who first recruited Deen into the porn life—she obviously knew what she liked, even if it was a gamble. But now that Deen’s “skinny, Jewish ass” has proven its worth, perhaps other producers, female and male alike, will be willing to challenge and entice their viewers with a more diverse casting couch as well.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2011/11/17/porn_that_women_like_why_does_it_make_men_so_uncom fortable_.html

[Shami-Amourae]

Women like porn which implies rape or male homosexuality that's feminine/cute. That's why tentacle porn and yaoi (animated gay porn) are the most popular forms of pornography for young women these days. There's even yaoi conventions, and it's almost all women, and 2 gay guys.

See yaoi fangirl (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yaoi%20fangirl).
http://images.encyclopediadramatica.ch/f/f7/Yaoifatty.jpg

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Women like porn which implies rape or male homosexuality that's feminine/cute. That's why tentacle porn and yaoi (animated gay porn) are the most popular forms of pornography for young women these days. There's even yaoi conventions, and it's almost all women, and 2 gay guys.

Come on, really?

[Shami-Amourae]

I work in the industry. I'm not kidding.

[EE_]

I work in the industry. I'm not kidding.

I wish you were kidding

[solid]

I work in the industry. I'm not kidding.

I always knew women can be crazy kinky, it's just a shame it's taboo....but tentacle porn? I don't know what to think about that.

[Shami-Amourae]

I always knew women can be crazy kinky, it's just a shame it's taboo....but tentacle porn? I don't know what to think about that.

Well I just gave it as an example. I said things that imply rape. That's very broad and includes slavery/BDSM. Tentacle porn basically is something that has a mythical creature raping them forcibly without their consent. It's a deeper symbolism of real life rape but that's completely taboo. They think it subconsciously so they seek it out in other forms. There's other forms like Gorean/kajira where the women play the roleplay and hope to get kidnapped and raped by several of the men/soldiers in the roleplay. I could keep listing examples, but it's a really really long list. I just broke it down into 2 simple fetishes so it was understandable.

This is a Safe For Work example of a kajira:

http://internetlooks.com/kajiraofgorkenkelly.jpg

[gunDriller]

does "Behind the Green Door" qualify ?

[Osaka]

Most men know as much about female sexuality as they know about the banking system.

There is lots of good information on the internet about taking the lead sexually, allowing and guiding women to explore and develop themselves sexually, both mentally and physically. Rape fantasies and tentacle porn are not about being literally physically raped or fucked by a squid, but about women emotionally submitting themselves to a greater sexual being.

[Shami-Amourae]

Tentacle porn and rape fantasies are not about being literally physically raped or fucked by a squid, but about women emotionally submitting themselves to a greater sexual being.

That's a better way of putting it. I think it's a subconscious drive in them. Men have the inverse. It's more to dominate.

There's also a small group of men/women who are the inverse off each of these. You will find small groups of dominant women and submissive men. The trend in our society is to increase these numbers. Call it a conspiracy or whatever, but I believe they are growing. If you're a female, young, and good looking you can make a fortune being a Professional Dominatrix.

[sirgonzo420]

Most men know as much about female sexuality as they do about the banking system.

There is lots of good information on the internet about taking the lead sexually, allowing and guiding women to explore and develop themselves sexually, both mentally and physically. Rape fantasies and tentacle porn are not about being literally physically raped or fucked by a squid, but about women emotionally submitting themselves to a greater sexual being.

^this

[letter_factory]

I work in the industry. I'm not kidding.



Can you elaborate on this and post pictures? For science.

[Shami-Amourae]

The cake is a lie.

[learn2swim]

There's no doubt men are supposed to take a leading role when dealing with women, but to relate trends in porn with real life is BS. Most, if not all women in the porn industry are mentally phucked up, usually they have Daddy issues of some kid, same with strippers. This article is just more social engineering from you know who, it's kosher trash at it's finest.

[Horn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOXtETvZJhc&feature=related

[k-os]

There's no doubt men are supposed to take a leading role when dealing with women, but to relate trends in porn with real life is BS. Most, if not all women in the porn industry are mentally phucked up, usually they have Daddy issues of some kid, same with strippers. This article is just more social engineering from you know who, it's kosher trash at it's finest.

I am positive you are right about porn stars and strippers . . . always daddy issues.

But about women's porn viewing preferences . . .I know women that absolutely can't stand watching a big ol' gross hairy guy in a porn movie. They'd rather watch someone young and fit. It's not that hard to fathom, really. Men like to look at young fit women.

[sirgonzo420]

I am positive you are right about porn stars and strippers . . . always daddy issues.

But about women's porn viewing preferences . . .I know women that absolutely can't stand watching a big ol' gross hairy guy in a porn movie. They'd rather watch someone young and fit. It's not that hard to fathom, really. Men like to look at young fit women.

Oh whatever!

You know you want tentacles!

[solid]

Oh whatever!

You know you want tentacles!

Maybe if those big ol' gross hairy guys had tentacles?

For us dudes, how do we grow tentacles? I'm thinking this tentacle fantasy might be fun to explore with a hot babe. I'm pretty open minded...yes, tentacles through me off a bit, but I'm game. Tentacle City...let's bring it.

Think Ximmy likes tentacles?

[osoab]

Think Ximmy likes tentacles?

Dude. ::)

[Shami-Amourae]

You guys know I just gave it as a crude example. One of many.

[PatColo]

^^ beat on the street is joboo digs 'em (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?p=479124#post479124),

oh wait I just re-read, never mind! ::)

[Awoke]

The "Tentacle porn" is a form of Hentai. The reason it exists is because the Japanese have "strict" laws regarding prongraphy. I am not 100% sure on the details, but as far as I remember someone once explaining it to me, they are not allowed to show a penis penetrating anything.

They are allowed to show semen, and women's genitals, but not penis's.

So in leiu of that, they made cartoon porn about women getting raped by monsters, robots, aliens,etc, so that they were not showing a human penis being inserted into a vagina.

Pretty sad, really.

[PatColo]

^ I'd have to look up the history of Japan's odd laws re obscenity, but I recall hearing years ago that their laws were shaped by the Western PTB after WW2, part of J's surrender- certain obscenity laws were rolled out in order to shape the new society, official reason had to do with making sure J didn't get super-nationalistic/imperialistic... but as usual with TPTB, their PR cover story is not the true agenda though. Japan's story would certainly be an interesting chapter in the (real) history of porn/obscenity as social control.

snipping from the internet/pron thread (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?33035-Explosion-of-free-internet-pron-amp-the-lluminati-Let-Them-Eat-Pron&p=500834&viewfull=1#post500834),
________________

I just stumbled onto this: audio interview with this author:

E. Michael Jones (http://www.amazon.com/E.-Michael-Jones/e/B001K7ZM78/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1)

who wrote, among many books,

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Expand See Book Details (http://www.amazon.com/E.-Michael-Jones/e/B001K7ZM78/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1325245728&sr=8-1#)

See "Listen Now" link below for MP3 audio, 1 hour,




http://jettandjahn.com/wp-content/themes/Political/images/PostHeaderIcon.png The Purpose of Pornography (http://www.jettandjahn.com/2011/07/the-purpose-of-pornography/)


http://jettandjahn.com/wp-content/themes/Political/images/PostDateIcon.png July 4th, 2011 | Author: Brighid Monahan (http://www.jettandjahn.com/tag/pornography/#)


For the Fourth of July – Is America Really Free?
In this discussion about Libido Dominandi featuring E. Michael Jones, we see how the elites use pornography as a form of social control masquerading as freedom.
http://www.jettandjahn.com/images/heidi.jpg (http://www.jettandjahn.com/images/heidi.jpg)Control?

Notes:
Israel broadcasts pornography after Ramallah invasion
American freedom as pornography
Media wars – Catholics vs Jews
Various

Listen Now (http://www.jettandjahn.com/audio/libidodominandi.mp3)
Related Posts:



The Marquis de Sade (http://www.jettandjahn.com/2010/11/the-marquis-de-sade/)
Pregnant Pornstar Haley Cummings Continues Filming Interracial (http://www.jettandjahn.com/2011/07/pregnant-pornstar-haley-cummings-continues-filming-interracial/)
Mary Wollstonecraft and Feminism (http://www.jettandjahn.com/2010/11/mary-wollstonecraft-and-feminism/)
Adam Weishaupt and The Illuminati (http://www.jettandjahn.com/2010/11/adam-weishaupt-and-the-illuminati/)
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[Book]

Think Ximmy likes tentacles?



Ximmy hasn't even posted in this thread.

Why did you say that?

::)

[sirgonzo420]

Ximmy hasn't even posted in this thread.

Why did you say that?

::)

He's curious?

???

[solid]

He's curious?

???

OK, that was bad attempt at a joke. My apologies to Ximmy. This topic is very far out there, and I agree with Awoke, it's pretty sad the influence the media can have often, to come up with stuff like this.

[Awoke]

It's satan that comes up with this stuff.

[solid]

It's satan that comes up with this stuff.

Yeah, this stuff is pretty evil, that's for sure. The media is the vehicle satan uses.

[joboo]

http://edge.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/218923/82243628.jpg

[ximmy]

Think Ximmy likes tentacles?

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2156&d=1327953203
::)
2156

[Osaka]

Here's an example of tentacle porn from 1814. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tako_to_ama_retouched.jpg.

Wikipedia says (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tentacle_erotica) Tentacle erotica describes a type of adult pornography most commonly found in Japan. It integrates elements of traditional pornography with horror or science-fiction themes. Tentacle erotica can be of a consensual nature, but frequently has elements of non-consensual sex. Tentacle rape or shokushu goukan (触手強姦?) is found in some horror or hentai titles, with tentacled creatures (usually fictional monsters) having sexual intercourse with female characters. The genre is popular enough in Japan that its occasionally even the subject of parody. In recent years, Japanese and Asian films of this genre have become more common in the United States and Europe. This, along with the presence of many websites featuring it, has expanded the genre's audience globally, although it still remains a small, fetish-oriented part of the adult film industry. While most tentacle erotica is animated, there are also a smaller number of live-action movies featuring this theme.

[dys]

Here's an example of tentacle porn from 1814. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tako_to_ama_retouched.jpg.

Wikipedia says (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tentacle_erotica) Tentacle erotica describes a type of adult pornography most commonly found in Japan. It integrates elements of traditional pornography with horror or science-fiction themes. Tentacle erotica can be of a consensual nature, but frequently has elements of non-consensual sex. Tentacle rape or shokushu goukan (触手強姦?) is found in some horror or hentai titles, with tentacled creatures (usually fictional monsters) having sexual intercourse with female characters. The genre is popular enough in Japan that its occasionally even the subject of parody. In recent years, Japanese and Asian films of this genre have become more common in the United States and Europe. This, along with the presence of many websites featuring it, has expanded the genre's audience globally, although it still remains a small, fetish-oriented part of the adult film industry. While most tentacle erotica is animated, there are also a smaller number of live-action movies featuring this theme.

I'm no prude, especially in the years before I discovered Jesus Christ, I was into some kinky stuff, but this shit is just sick and twisted. Gross. Yuck. Revolting.

dys

[PatColo]

Alien: A Film Franchise Based Entirely on Rape (alien:%20A%20Film%20Franchise%20Based%20Entirely% 20on%20Rape%20%20Read%20more:%20Alien:%20A%20Film% 20Franchise%20Based%20Entirely%20on%20Rape%20%7C%2 0Cracked.com%20http://www.cracked.com/article_18932_alien-film-franchise-based-entirely-rape.html) - rape of males, no less

[gunDriller]

OK well on a more down to earth front, how about Leaving Las Vegas, or 9 1/2 weeks ?

i think Las Vegas got an R rating, 9 1/2 weeks had to have had an X rating.

i just bought the video-tape of Leaving Las Vegas. Jesus man. It sucks. i could not bear to watch another second of Nicholas Cage drinking more alcohol than an alcohol powered car. it is not possible for human beings to drink that much - in that period of time.

so i missed the supposed love story - it's supposed to have gotten an Academy Award. i know, big fricken deal, but - it might be the worst movie that ever got an academy award.


if there's a genuine love story and a plot in the film, like in Pretty Woman, is it then NOT porn ? well actually that's not a great example, not that much nudity.

[PatColo]

I am positive you are right about porn stars and strippers . . . always daddy issues.

But about women's porn viewing preferences . . .I know women that absolutely can't stand watching a big ol' gross hairy guy in a porn movie. They'd rather watch someone young and fit. It's not that hard to fathom, really. Men like to look at young fit women.

you'll take the hunks they give you, and you'll like it! :-*

http://edge.ebaumsworld.com/picture/frigoffrick/RonJeremy-1.png

this following one doesn't really belong here, but it would make a silly new thread, so may as well toss it into this one,

NSW firm seeks brothel sex inspector (http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8410960/nsw-firm-seeks-brothel-sex-inspector)

[JDRock]

heres the greatest porn for women EVER....> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Old Herb Lady]

heres the greatest porn for SHALLOW, UNINTELLIGENT , LOSER WOMEN EVER....> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


Oh really, Mr JDR. Fixed it for ya.

There are some women who get passionately made love to on a regular basis who have NO need for porn nor $$$ or the depravity that goes along with both.

Women wouldn't get into that wicked mindset if the men with money wouldn't use the money to
attract her & keep her happy with it.

[SLV^GLD]

it is not possible for human beings to drink that much - in that period of time.

I bear witness to the fact that it is possible and happens more often than anyone cares to know.

[solid]

Women wouldn't get into that wicked mindset if the men with money wouldn't use the money to
attract her & keep her happy with it.

So it is men's fault? A lot of guy's will use money, fancy cars, fancy clothes to attract women because it actually does work. It's actually the driving force for a lot of our culture here. Look at any guy who's famous, regardless of his looks, he's surrounded by hot babes. Why do you think so many people want to be the next American Idol? If women hated American Idol guys....it wouldn't be popular at all.

I'm just showing how strong of an influence the 'desire' to impress women is in our culture. Men are judged as a success by it.

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Before
http://mode.galerijacentrs.lv/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Male-Peacock-displaying.jpg

After
http://www.onlineweblibrary.com/news/WEDDING.jpg

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Before
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww217/MaggiegirlEE/florida/Male-Peacock-displaying.jpg
After
http://www.onlineweblibrary.com/news/WEDDING.jpg

[Old Herb Lady]

So it is men's fault? A lot of guy's will use money, fancy cars, fancy clothes to attract women because it actually does work. It's actually the driving force for a lot of our culture here. Look at any guy who's famous, regardless of his looks, he's surrounded by hot babes. Why do you think so many people want to be the next American Idol? If women hated American Idol guys....it wouldn't be popular at all.

I'm just showing how strong of an influence the 'desire' to impress women is in our culture. Men are judged as a success by it.

No it's the dog's fault.

I have a very good friend of mine who is going through a divorce.
One of the kindest, gentlemen ever. He's rich.
When he got married 11 years ago, she was attracted to him for his money.
He bought her not one, but 2 houses,
fancy cars, $800 purses, clothes from the richest stores in town.

I knew he was in trouble. I knew it. He was way tooo nice & way too generous.

I talked to him recently, not only did she take him to court to get every last nickel off of him & then more she freakin' stole a box of his Au probably worth 40-50K.
He can't prove it & he's being so nice about it that he's just 'letting it slide'.

She never was very loving or affectionate towards him.
She NEVER would ever think about getting her hands dirty by cleaning house or working in the yard.

He ENABLED her.

Nuff said.

Now he has to suffer. I'm in the process of fixing him up with a nice lady who is getting a divorce also and I hope they'll both get a chance at happiness.

[solid]

He ENABLED her.

Nuff said..

Maybe he just loved her? Sad story. Honestly, if I was rich I'd probably get taken like that. If I was married to gal I truly loved, I would put her first above anything. That, to me, is what marriage is about. 100% blind trust, with everything.

OHL, there's an article I would recommend reading. For the married folks, you may not realize this dynamic, but this is very true in the singles dating arena. You have guys fighting, clawing, to be in the top group of men. Either you play the game, or sit on the sidelines...

http://www.hookingupsmart.com/2011/08/02/relationshipstrategies/the-sexual-revolution-and-you/

[EE_]

I'm in the process of fixing him up with a nice lady who is getting a divorce also and I hope they'll both get a chance at happiness.

Do you have a love potion you make with all those herbs?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va3xSE1udgM

[Old Herb Lady]

Maybe he just loved her? Sad story. Honestly, if I was rich I'd probably get taken like that. If I was married to gal I truly loved, I would put her first above anything. That, to me, is what marriage is about. 100% blind trust, with everything.

OHL, there's an article I would recommend reading. For the married folks, you may not realize this dynamic, but this is very true in the singles dating arena. You have guys fighting, clawing, to be in the top group of men. Either you play the game, or sit on the sidelines...

http://www.hookingupsmart.com/2011/08/02/relationshipstrategies/the-sexual-revolution-and-you/

Of course he loved her, the fool. If he would have used a fraction of his extremely smart business brains he could have deduced that he was in for it.

I was single once, I remember what it was like. I had a guy that kept buying me stuff like crazy.
I told him stop it because it made me uncomfortable & I didn't need/want all this stuff.
It was quite ridiculous. He didn't get it. He thought I was just saying it &didn't really mean it. He still couldn't get it. I got rid of him.
He just wanted to buy, buy, buy me. He ended up finding a girl. She took him, too. She took him good.
He built her a nice house after they got married.
She took a claw hammer & destroyed every wall & every piece of furniture in the house. Then to top if off, she dumped BLEACH all over everything in the entire house, the new carpeting and all.

The signs are there from the beginning.

A relationship based on sex or money is cursed from day one, every time.

[JDRock]

Do you have a love potion you make with all those herbs?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va3xSE1udgM
ok...so ill admit there ARE women who dont consider $ to be an afrodisiac....but my point is men are usually lying when they say " looks dont matter" and women generally are lying whaen they say " i dont care he's a school janitor.

[solid]

The signs are there from the beginning..

There are, I agree, I can see these signs now. However, there is a dynamic where women (some, actually a lot) tend to trade up. Branch swing, as my buddies would call it. You are dating everything is fine, then she disappears to date someone else. Actually, one gal I was dating had a boyfriend. She wanted to see if I was a better deal. I dropped her as soon as I found out about the boyfriend though, because she'd do the same thing to me eventually.

My thoughts are to just enjoy the time I spend with a woman. If she can find a better deal, that's cool with me. They'll be another gal coming along eventually.

[dys]

Maybe he just loved her? Sad story. Honestly, if I was rich I'd probably get taken like that. If I was married to gal I truly loved, I would put her first above anything. That, to me, is what marriage is about. 100% blind trust, with everything.

OHL, there's an article I would recommend reading. For the married folks, you may not realize this dynamic, but this is very true in the singles dating arena. You have guys fighting, clawing, to be in the top group of men. Either you play the game, or sit on the sidelines...

http://www.hookingupsmart.com/2011/08/02/relationshipstrategies/the-sexual-revolution-and-you/

Solid-
I have to tell you, I enjoyed that link very much....very interesting. You know, something I've noticed as I've gotten older is the astonishing number of women out there that think they are much better looking than they really are. An average looking women looking for a guy that looks like Brad Pitt with the wallet of Tony Montana, it's pathetic but not unamusing.

dys

[Old Herb Lady]

ok...so ill admit there ARE women who dont consider $ to be an afrodisiac....but my point is men are usually lying when they say " looks dont matter" and women generally are lying whaen they say " i dont care he's a school janitor.

Yes, I agree that they would be lying about it.
I don't see how 2 people could be together if they weren't both physically attracted to each other.
What I'm saying is that if a man holds his value of a woman in her looks, and a woman holds the value of a man by his wallet & try to have a relationship
then one of them is being used. The user is a worthless abuser in my eyes.

And as a person gets older---man or woman----not saying they have to settle for some ugly partner,
but when a person gets older they come to the understanding that the janitor just may be a nice guy after all and
a nice lady that's not so drop dead gorgeous just might be a winner.

The world has just lost its way, that's all.

The internet porn industry is probably much much richer because of all of this, too.

[solid]

Solid-
I have to tell you, I enjoyed that link very much....very interesting. You know, something I've noticed as I've gotten older is the astonishing number of women out there that think they are much better looking than they really are. An average looking women looking for a guy that looks like Brad Pitt with the wallet of Tony Montana, it's pathetic but not unamusing.

dys

Thanks dys, I think it's interesting too. How the term 'value' applies to how folks pair up together.

I was reading awhile back about this small island in the S. Pacific, and how the culture was so vastly different than ours. There, it's a kingdom, and young men and women would live at home with their parents until they married. When they married, the whole town would have a big celebration. Then the whole town would work together, and build a home for the new couple. The new couple would move in, and start a family, a life together. What's interesting, is how people naturally found their equals. They were content, a simple life, there was no divorces, or affairs.

Here, the American dream, people can work hard, achieve great things...and massive rewards go to the ones that do. For example, Wilt Chamberlain claims to have slept with 20,000 women. Now, nobody talks about how many of those women destroyed their marriages, dumped their boyfriends, cheated, etc...20,000 of them, just wanted even just a little 'piece' of Wilt. Now THAT's being at the top.

And that's what fuels, and drives our country. Take my personal example, now there's only one gal in my life. Nothing serious, just spending time together. We are both pretty equal, in lifestyle, financially (live within our means). I'd say she's more attractive than I am, however I am younger and physically stronger. We balance each other fairly well.

Am I suppose to fault her if a Brad Pitt comes along, or a Wilt? If she strives for a better deal, to compete with 1000's of other women for the attention of one guy?

No..this is why I have the philosophy of just enjoying the present time. Just enjoying the time I spend with a woman. I know, at any time, a shiner fancier better looking guy is around the corner. What I can do, however, is constantly improve myself. More spiritually, more in tune with my own values, my integrity, humble and honest, and treat the people in my life well. That's my reward.

[Rubberchicken]

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[BrewTech]

Every person has to find their equal in life for the relationship to work.

Unfortunately, so does the other person.

To find your equal first requires that you are honest with yourself. The other person has to be just as honest as well. To put it mildly, that's rare.

Mrs. Brewtech and I are together, and will remain that way, simply because we subscribe to each other's brand of crazy.

[sirgonzo420]

Every person has to find their equal in life for the relationship to work.

Unfortunately, so does the other person.

To find your equal first requires that you are honest with yourself. The other person has to be just as honest as well. To put it mildly, that's rare.

Mrs. Brewtech and I are together, and will remain that way, simply because we subscribe to each other's brand of crazy.

You hit the nail on the head there, pilgrim.

[Serpo]

How many tentacles is considered OK.............::)

[MAGNES]

Maybe if those big ol' gross hairy guys had tentacles?

For us dudes, how do we grow tentacles? I'm thinking this tentacle fantasy might be fun to explore with a hot babe. I'm pretty open minded...yes, tentacles through me off a bit, but I'm game. Tentacle City...let's bring it.

Think Ximmy likes tentacles?


Later, Solid/3Sock to Ximmy, scroll up.
" You said yourself you wouldn't meet anyone from this forum in person.. " (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?61105-Is-Ximmy-in-reality-Book&p=542400&viewfull=1#post542400)

"This is a cult forum, that restricts open freedom and open opinions to be posted"
Slowbell, 4 sock puppet troll.

Enough freedom here for you to make a fool out of yourself regularly Mr 4 Sock.

[osoab]

Later, Solid/3Sock to Ximmy, scroll up.
" You said yourself you wouldn't meet anyone from this forum in person.. " (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?61105-Is-Ximmy-in-reality-Book&p=542400&viewfull=1#post542400)

"This is a cult forum, that restricts open freedom and open opinions to be posted"
Slowbell, 4 sock puppet troll.

Enough freedom here for you to make a fool out of yourself regularly Mr 4 Sock.

Why drag up a post that is 9 months old? Just curious Magnes.

[Camp Bassfish]

AtTeNtIoN wHoRe

[SWRichmond]

Maybe he just loved her? Sad story. Honestly, if I was rich I'd probably get taken like that. If I was married to gal I truly loved, I would put her first above anything. That, to me, is what marriage is about. 100% blind trust, with everything.

OHL, there's an article I would recommend reading. For the married folks, you may not realize this dynamic, but this is very true in the singles dating arena. You have guys fighting, clawing, to be in the top group of men. Either you play the game, or sit on the sidelines...

http://www.hookingupsmart.com/2011/08/02/relationshipstrategies/the-sexual-revolution-and-you/

Sorry I missed this thread and this post / link especially. The 30- and 40-something generation of females is clinically insane IMO. The "Sex and the City" generation of man-haters, taught so by their mothers who learned to hate their dads during the divorces that mostly (70%) their mothers initiated.

I truly hope that the 20-somethings will learn reject their mothers' hatred of men. The author at hookingupsmart doesn't put it in those blunt terms, but I do. The 30- and 40-something women are throw aways, a lost generation. Lost, but not missed.

[chad]

Sorry I missed this thread and this post / link especially. The 30- and 40-something generation of females is clinically insane IMO. The "Sex and the City" generation of man-haters, taught so by their mothers who learned to hate their dads during the divorces that mostly (70%) their mothers initiated.

I truly hope that the 20-somethings will learn reject their mothers' hatred of men. The author at hookingupsmart doesn't put it in those blunt terms, but I do. The 30- and 40-something women are throw aways, a lost generation. Lost, but not missed.

i think it's relative to where you live and what crowd you hang out with. my wife is 41. i know all of the mothers from the 4th grade catholic school my daughter attends, about 18 of them. they are all in to going to church, making homemade noodles etc. on the weekends, and going walking together. they go to the kids sports programs, work on the yard, and occasionally watch a football game with some of the husbands. they're a very "boring" lot. none of them i know are in to the sex & the city type drama. the craziest one i know gets all dolled up for the saturday morning 9 am basketball games instead of wearing jeans, that is the extent of the madness.

[sirgonzo420]

i think it's relative to where you live and what crowd you hang out with. my wife is 41. i know all of the mothers from the 4th grade catholic school my daughter attends, about 18 of them. they are all in to going to church, making homemade noodles etc. on the weekends, and going walking together. they go to the kids sports programs, work on the yard, and occasionally watch a football game with some of the husbands. they're a very "boring" lot. none of them i know are in to the sex & the city type drama. the craziest one i know gets all dolled up for the saturday morning 9 am basketball games instead of wearing jeans, that is the extent of the madness.

But I'd bet that sometimes what goes on behind closed suburban bedroom doors would stun and shock.

[JDRock]

But I'd bet that sometimes what goes on behind closed suburban bedroom doors would stun and shock.

id like to reply but im kind of...tied up at the moment..

[singular_me]

Talking of sexuality makes it so obvious that males and females are very different creatures - by nature. Add to this we have centuries of patriarchal societies that have dictated women their sexuality, how to submit to men. The "rape fantasy" is the archetypal result of this, completely unconscious... Adult movies made by/for women are for sure more empowering as they also explore erotica - and erotica is the polar-opposite of porn. The so-called sexual liberation is barely 60 year old and women think they have fixed it but just behaving like men and get their "revenge" when males no longer comply.

The damage runs deep however.... the choice we have is simple, either we continue to believe that we are cultivated animals (what the PTBs exploit to death in all areas of life) and nothing will change OR we start understanding that Sexuality means self-less creativity, in other words not a possession game. Or like eating hamburgers.

Trust me, I am no bigot, I have been there, done that... and I have nailed it thoroughly, especially after reading a book by a guy that worked for the Montauk project and knows a lot about sexual mind control and unfortunately, he seems to say that one only can DEprogram oneself by exploring the program itself, until one has harmed oneself enough to let it go... (Interestingly I came across this book when time was right, mind control leaves such an emptiness within). He also asserts that sexual selfless creativity is in direct connection with God's Mind.

Surprisingly the author does "not" condemn all other expressions of sexuality (between consenting adults) as they exist to show us as how to reconcile with the creative Mind of the Universe.

After all it is what Tantra teachings are about. Nothing new. I was just very pleased to see how everything interconnects again...

[EE_]

The so-called sexual liberation is barely 60 year old and women think they have fixed it but just behaving like men and get their "revenge" when males no longer comply.

Care to elaborate?

[singular_me]

Care to elaborate?

well I dont want to engage in an endless debate, especially if people want to focus on "their" side of the fence. Men this, women that... blah blah blah...

But I think you should watch the "century of the self", I think its in part 1, and how they promoted cigarettes to women, Freud's penis envy still does wonders. But institutionalizing the status quo (women are equal to men) genders will never understand their differences... they did the same with multiculturalism...

I think first men must understand the dire consequences of patriarchy and women have to abandon their "victim-revenge fantasies"... which is challenging as it is deep entrenched in ALL cultures. both genders have to accept that they are products of a highly perverse mind control that has been going on for a looong time. There is no quick fix and I am no guru... one must hit the wall and feel the emptiness I am speaking in my previous posting.



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[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

I'll elaborate as well, sexuality has some of the same problems as it did before, it's just the genders have swapped. If you look at most porn, you have men dominating women. Then, the "reverse" of this porn, is women dominating men. To me this isn't the true reverse, however. To me it's just the same problem with a different gender leading the pack.


The true reserve of this would be a lack of domination. There is pretty much no porn out there that is simply focused on giving the other person a better orgasm. It's all based around humiliation and the dom/sub dynamic. You rarely, if ever, see two individuals engaging as equals in attempts to give one another better and more mind-blowing orgasms. It's always in the context of one of them submitting, and one of them dominating. Since neither are actually necessary for sexual relations, it makes me wonder what the point of the dom/sub dynamic really is.

Furthermore the person being "submissive" isn't actually as submissive as they seem. Let's say hypothetically that I **LET** another person dominate me - I'm allowing it to happen. It's a role that I'm playing. I'm actually the one who has the power, because I'm the one saying it's okay to go ahead and begin dominating. Except in cases of true rape, the so-called "submissive' personality usually has most of the power, they just pretend they don't.

[singular_me]

I concur NE... this is an impasse. Because of this induced dichotomy, S/M has shaped relationships since ever. Very seldom are those who can escape the archetypes, feminine (submission) and masculine (authoritarianism). You brief analysis of sub/dom is spot on. When one looks closer roles are reversed.


There is pretty much no porn out there that is simply focused on giving the other person a better orgasm.

that is not the goal of porn and never will. Porn is about treating each other as objects.

I know several men who can assure me that they are all for female emancipation, but are fond of gang-bang porn movies for example. LOL . Most men truly believe that women find their pleasure in submission... and the spin goes on and on... rape rate going up? look no further!


Let's say hypothetically that I **LET** another person dominate me - I'm allowing it to happen. It's a role that I'm playing. I'm actually the one who has the power
legacy of patriarchy, really ... today most women play the "sex dolls/objects" to enslave men.

Stopping the blame game is key - That cannot end well, can it?

[Old Herb Lady]

Interesting discussion. Hmmm. Well one can call me a prude, I totally dontz care, but I don't see how/why people need porn schtuffs.

I mean doesn't anybody like the good old fashioned stuff. I must be pretty lame in my thinking.

Can't a man juust be the masculine MAN he is meant to be and a woman juust get in touch with her TRUE femininity and juust be a real WOMAN without all
of this power stuff like the porn ? I'll never understand.

When a woman truly knows what it means to be feminine and a man truly knows what it is to be masculine there isn't any wanting for power, just
the wanting to be with their loving partner selflessly and expressing their sexuality in a natural, healthy way.

They getz together and just that mindset of knowing who they are & who they are meant to be should be way plenty enough to generate the most
astronomical out of this world phenomenol lovemaking sessions that never get old, tiring, boring or stagnant, just better & better.
It makes porn nothing but cheap and degrading to what is supposed to be the most beautiful, loving, sacred act that a man & woman can share together.

Putting the joo filth anywhere in/around my brain is incomprehendable, but I'm trying to understand what is the need for it.
So obviously the need is what a person isn't getting they must watch it to get a satisfaction ?

The whole gender reversal thing freaks me out, but to each his own.

I think we've sunk into a depraved porn infested sick world because love has left da building and selfishness has run amuck !

If both genders would just work on releasing & letting gooo ALL OF THIS brainwashing ( and their prior negative sexual experiences & completely forgive & release their hurts) that is spewed & get to who they are ...
masculine/feminine they'd be sooo happyyyyyyyyyy .

Just my dumb prude thoughts.

[singular_me]

I am just posting this as an ironic and/or cynical end note...

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to watch this vid, you will have to sign in though


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Each doll costs around 4,000 pounds. Of those able to afford it, the dolls are worth every penny.