Florida Sheriff conducting Drivers License Check Points

[Heimdhal]

Saw this on the news this morning, thought I'd share. This is the county I grew up in.

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http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2012/feb/05/indian-river-sheriffs-deputies-doing-traffic/

INDIAN RIVER COUNTY — Sheriff's deputies will conduct traffic checkpoints at opposite ends of the county Wednesday.

The Indian River County Sheriff's Office said deputies will be checking driver's licenses in Wednesday's effort.

They will be making stops from 9 a.m. until about noon in the 10700 block of County Road 512 near Fellsmere. From there, they'll stop motorists in the 1700 block of 43rd Avenue Southwest until 4 p.m., deputies said.

[EE_]

And so it begins...

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[mick silver]

lock down is getting closer

[Hatha Sunahara]

When they have scheduled checkpoints, and they publish them, why would anybody drive in that vicinity unless they were non-locals who know nothing about this. This is aimed at tourists. Sounds like a revenue enhancement maneuver to me.

Hatha

[chad]

i thought you had to have probable cause to stop someone. they can just set up checkpoints?

[mick silver]

dam slaves need to get in line

[letter_factory]

i thought you had to have probable cause to stop someone. they can just set up checkpoints?


dl checkpoints, dwi checkpoints, speed traps....for freedom and democracy, comrade brownshirt.

[madfranks]

i thought you had to have probable cause to stop someone. they can just set up checkpoints?

They should call them freedom checkpoints, because they're detaining you to make sure you are free.

[Celtic Rogue]

i thought you had to have probable cause to stop someone. they can just set up checkpoints?


Yep.... You are probably going to be stopped... cause!

[horseshoe3]

Twice, while driving down I-70, I have seen signs that say "Drug Inspection Checkpoint Ahead." They are always set on a long uphill stretch so you can't see over the rise. There is always an exit immediately after the sign. When you top the rise, you expect to see a checkpoint, but there is nothing. My guess is that they watch to see who hastily turns off at the exit immediately after the sign and stop those cars. Kind of narrowing down the field.

[mick silver]

are the chains getting harder to carry

[Tumbleweed]

Saw this on the news this morning, thought I'd share. This is the county I grew up in.

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http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2012/feb/05/indian-river-sheriffs-deputies-doing-traffic/

INDIAN RIVER COUNTY — Sheriff's deputies will conduct traffic checkpoints at opposite ends of the county Wednesday.

The Indian River County Sheriff's Office said deputies will be checking driver's licenses in Wednesday's effort.

They will be making stops from 9 a.m. until about noon in the 10700 block of County Road 512 near Fellsmere. From there, they'll stop motorists in the 1700 block of 43rd Avenue Southwest until 4 p.m., deputies said.

SOB's

[SLV^GLD]

Twice, while driving down I-70, I have seen signs that say "Drug Inspection Checkpoint Ahead." They are always set on a long uphill stretch so you can't see over the rise. There is always an exit immediately after the sign. When you top the rise, you expect to see a checkpoint, but there is nothing. My guess is that they watch to see who hastily turns off at the exit immediately after the sign and stop those cars. Kind of narrowing down the field.


Close guess, the checkpoint is actually on the exit.

[7th trump]

Saw this on the news this morning, thought I'd share. This is the county I grew up in.

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http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2012/feb/05/indian-river-sheriffs-deputies-doing-traffic/

INDIAN RIVER COUNTY — Sheriff's deputies will conduct traffic checkpoints at opposite ends of the county Wednesday.

The Indian River County Sheriff's Office said deputies will be checking driver's licenses in Wednesday's effort.

They will be making stops from 9 a.m. until about noon in the 10700 block of County Road 512 near Fellsmere. From there, they'll stop motorists in the 1700 block of 43rd Avenue Southwest until 4 p.m., deputies said.
What town Heimdhal?

[Heimdhal]

What town Heimdhal?

Vero

[Half Sense]

Close guess, the checkpoint is actually on the exit.

Yep. My 80-year-old Mom got "caught" in one of these. They took the exit 'cause she had to pee, and there were 5 cop cars there. After a bit of confusion as to why these old geezers were "running drugs", she was allowed to proceed to a gas station. I don't remember if they searched the car or not; this was several years ago before cops got their storm trooper costumes and tazers.

[Spectrism]

One day I was pulling off the local highway and a state trooper stopped me on the exit ramp. He said he was checking for people wearing seatbelts.

I asked: "YOU stopped me to check for seat belts?" I gave him a stare that made him visibly cringe like a little boy scolded. He disappeared shortly after. They never did that again.

[willie pete]

I didn't think the police could stop EVERY driver, I thought they had to alternate......except around a border....nothing surprises anymore, they bend and spin the laws to benefit themselves anyway....::)



Frequently Asked Questions About Roadblocks

Are roadblocks legal?
The US Supreme Court has found roadblocks to be legal for a variety of purposes, the most prominent being so-called "sobriety check points." There is a longer history of roadblock approvals related to checking vehicles near or at national border crossings.
However, many state courts take a less favorable view of roadblocks based on language in their respective state constitutions. Probably the best example of this is the Michigan case that went to the US Supreme Court, Sitz vs. Michigan, that established the legal precedent for DWI roadblocks.
While the US Supreme Court found DWI roadblocks constitutional under the US Constitution, the case went back to Michigan and the State Supreme court found DWI roadblocks to be in violation of the state's constitution, and that decision takes precedent, in Michigan, over the decision of the US Supreme Court.
Do I have to answer the questions posed to me at a roadblock?
You do not have to answer any questions, particularly questions that would be self-incriminating. You may be required (forced by threat of arrest) to show your drivers license, vehicle registration, and proof of insurance, if the state requires these items to be present in your vehicle.
However, you cannot be compelled to explain your travel plans, divulge the contents of your vehicle, or in any other way converse with law enforcement officers operating a roadblock.
Can they search my car?
Your car can only be searched under the following circumstances:

You voluntarily give the police permission to search your vehicle.
The Police have a warrant to search your vehicle.
The police have "probable cause" or "reasonable suspicion" based on a reasonable explanation of why they believe you have illegal items in your vehicle. They must be able to explain what they think they will find and why they think said items are in your vehicle.
If the police use their authority or force to search your vehicle, against your will, and they do not have a warrant or reasonable suspicion to conduct a search they can be (and should be) held criminally and civilly liable for conducting an illegal search. This holds true, even if the search reveals the possession of illegal items.
How long can they keep me at a roadblock?
One of the consistent rationalizations for roadblocks is that they are minimally intrusive and minimally inconvenient to the motorist. For reasons that escape specific justification the courts seem to find 15 to 20 minutes the maximum amount of time a motorist can be detained by police before the police take formal action against the motorist or allow the motorist to leave.
However, the courts have placed the burden of forcing the issue upon the motorist. If the motorist does not specifically request to leave, the police can successfully claim the motorist voluntarily remained under their control.
Therefore, if the police seem inclined to delay your departure, after they have checked your papers, specifically ask if you may now leave. If they say "no" you are within your rights to ask for a legitimate explanation for your delay.
If no legitimate explanation is forth coming you should persist in asking if you may leave. There should be no confusion regarding your intentions and the fact that you are not willingly remaining within control of the police officers.
Will it be better if I admit to having had something to drink, that my vehicle contains firearms, alcohol, tobacco products, or drugs?
No!!! The police operating roadblocks are not your friends, they are not concerned about your well being, and they will not give you "a break" because you are a nice compliant cooperative person.
Admitting that you have been drinking is asking for trouble. You do not have to answer these kinds of questions and you should not answer these kinds of questions.
You can be polite and courteous to the extent of providing the documents you are required to produce. Beyond that, decline to answer any other questions you are asked.
In response to a potentially incriminating question you can say something like; "Officer, I know you have your job to do, but I do not approve of roadblocks and I do not wish to have a conversation. I realize I can be required to show you my driver's license. Would you like to see my drivers license?" End of discussion.
Can I turn around or turn off to avoid a roadblock?
In theory you are allowed to make any legal maneuver, even a U-turn to avoid a roadblock. In reality the police operating roadblocks deliberately locate them so it is almost impossible to legally avoid them, once you become aware of their presence.
It is also common practice to hold a patrol car in reserve for the specific purpose of harassing motorists who overtly avoid a roadblock.