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palani
14th February 2012, 10:22 AM
Hard to believe I was breaking any laws when growing up drinking milk still warm from the cow.

http://qctimes.com/news/state-and-regional/iowa/iowa-house-panel-oks-sale-of-raw-milk/article_831d2228-5686-11e1-9551-0019bb2963f4.html


DES MOINES — Raw milk could be sold and marketed in Iowa under a bill that unanimously passed through a House subcommittee Monday.

Supporters of the legislation, including the two Republicans and one Democrat on the panel, framed it as a question of personal freedom and consumer choice. Opponents said the potential problems of consuming non-pasteurized milk should convince lawmakers to keep it outlawed.

Raw milk has not been pasteurized or homogenized.

“Iowa’s dairy industries have a long history of building consumer confidence in our milk,” said Mark Truesdell, an attorney and lobbyist with the Iowa Dairy Foods Association. “This would turn it around 180 degrees.”

The association is one of many trade, government and education groups that have registered their opposition to the bill. They include the Board of Regents, the Iowa Grocery Industry Association, the Iowa Department of Agriculture, the Iowa Association of Business and Industry and the Iowa Medical Society.

Truesdell said the same qualities that make milk healthful for people also make it an “excellent nutrient for pathogens of all kinds.” He said incidents of ailments such as rubella and scarlet fever would rise if people began drinking non-pasteurized milk.

Francis Thicke, a dairy farmer and candidate for state agriculture secretary in 2010, said allowing dairy farmers to sell raw milk could help them get started in an otherwise expensive business.

“A dairy farmer who is starting out and wants to build a business is looking at a quarter-million to more than a million dollars for pasteurization equipment,” he said.

He said consumers are asking for raw milk and “driving on a highway to get raw mike is riskier than drinking raw milk.”

Stephanie Clark, an associate professor of food science at Iowa State University, said “long-term complications (of drinking raw milk) include kidney failure and even death.”

Right before he voted in favor of the measure, Rep. Glen Massie, R-Des Moines, said he appreciated the warnings about health but he was “going to come down on the side of freedom and liberty … If my family wanted to consume raw milk — and we don’t want to — we should be able to have that choice.”

This does not mean that the feds aren't going to take exception to their "citizens" being offered a choice in the matter.

iOWNme
14th February 2012, 12:17 PM
Stephanie Clark, an associate professor of food science at Iowa State University, said “long-term complications (of drinking raw milk) include kidney failure and even death.”

LIE.

Raw milk is literally chalk full of natural vitamins, minerals and vaccines. Not to mention it is alive with billions of live bacteria that are essential to good health.

On the other hand, pasteurized milk is DEAD, poison full of blood and puss from cows with too many hormones injected into them.

I mean for Christs sake man, we used to have milk men that would deliver fresh milk every couple days to your home. Wanna bet the average American was 10x more healthy back then?

Glass
14th February 2012, 01:05 PM
pasteurizing and/or homogenizing milk is not about health imo. It's about shelf life and hence marketability. It's all about getting the milk to last longer once packaged. These days milk arriving at the store can have a shelf life of nearly 3 weeks. Unheard of in the past. To me it makes no sense as milk is usually consumed very quickly unless people are buying many weeks worth at a time.

Might be time read up a bit on old Louis. See what he was upto.

horseshoe3
14th February 2012, 01:43 PM
It's also to create entry barriers for the competition. Anyone notice how the most strict raw milk laws are in the states with the largest dairy industries?

iOWNme
14th February 2012, 02:45 PM
pasteurizing and/or homogenizing milk is not about health imo. It's about shelf life and hence marketability. It's all about getting the milk to last longer once packaged. These days milk arriving at the store can have a shelf life of nearly 3 weeks. Unheard of in the past. To me it makes no sense as milk is usually consumed very quickly unless people are buying many weeks worth at a time.

Might be time read up a bit on old Louis. See what he was upto.

The big Corporate daries started using hormones in their cattle decades ago. Using massive amounts of these hormones lead to cows milk that would be tainted with blood and puss from the cows utters. THIS is where boiling milk started from. Boiling ANY nutrient or vitamin KILLS the potency of that vitamin or mineral.