View Full Version : Maine GOP recounting caucus votes - Due to Ron Paul Supporters
Ares
16th February 2012, 04:50 PM
The Maine Republican Party, under fire from Ron Paul supporters for its mishandling of the state’s recent caucuses, is now re-canvassing counties and municipalities to recount vote totals.
POLITICO obtained an email from the State Republican Party asking local chairmen to send them the vote totals from their local straw polls.
“County Chairman & Town Chairman,” an email written by a state Republican Party staffer reads. “We are reconfirming the totals from the Presidential Preference Straw poll. Can you please EMAIL ME the totals from your towns. For County Chairman if you are emailing the total for your entire county can you please list the towns that are included.”
The letter was forwarded by a longtime Republican activist in Maine.
The Maine Republican Party and its chairman, Charlie Webster, have been under attack in the last week for declaring Mitt Romney of the presidential straw poll in Maine when not all of the state’s caucuses have met to vote yet.
On Saturday, Webster announced that Romney had won the presidential straw poll. Romney won the non-binding caucuses by just three points, 39 percent to Ron Paul’s 36 percent. Less than 200 votes separated the totals of Romney and second-place finisher Ron Paul.
Several localities were not included in the presidential straw poll, including Washington County, where the caucuses were cancelled for the reason of inclement weather. Others municipalities had local caucuses scheduled for after Webster’s announcement.
Washington County is expected to caucus this coming Saturday.
Webster told POLITICO on Saturday that although the Maine caucuses were scheduled for Feb. 4 to Feb. 11, he had no ability to tell local groups when to caucus. He estimated there are 505 municipalities in Maine, of which 420 have caucused. An additional 40 or so small municipalities will not hold a caucus at all, and the remaining would caucus after his announcement.
Ron Paul’s campaign called the exclusion of Washington County’s results “inexplicable” on election night.
“Paul performed well throughout the state, although his campaign’s stronghold of Washington County did not report today for inexplicable reasons,” according to a statement released by the campaign.
The campaign released a second, more scathing email to supporters later on that evening.
“In Washington County – where Ron Paul was incredibly strong – the caucus was delayed until next week just so the votes wouldn’t be reported by the national media today. That’s right. A prediction of 3-4 inches – that turned into nothing more than a dusting – was enough for a local GOP official to postpone the caucuses just so the results wouldn’t be reported tonight,” read the statement.
“Just the votes of Washington County would have been enough to put us over the top. This is an outrage. But our campaign is in this race to win, and will stay in it to the very end,” it continued.
It remains to be seen whether the results in Washington County would lean towards Paul’s favor. In addition, only 118 votes were cast in the county in 2008 - not enough to make up the difference between Romney and Paul if a similar number of voters showed up to caucus.
Neither state chair Charlie Webster nor the staffer who wrote the email immediately responded to a request for comment on Thursday.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/72989.html#ixzz1mayk7OHh
Libertytree
16th February 2012, 04:59 PM
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Breaking: after telling the Daily Caller that he wouldn't release until March, turns out GOP WILL release corrected Maine numbers tomorrow!
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Exclusive: only I have new numbers out of Waterville and Waldo county, why Maine caucus may have a 'new" winner Sat. night ! RC tonight
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Thanks to @Matt_McDonald_ for helping to break the Maine caucus wide open!
Cebu_4_2
16th February 2012, 05:10 PM
The zionists are scrambling. lol running in circles like headless chickens clucking wtf wtf
Libertytree
16th February 2012, 05:12 PM
Brian Doherty (http://reason.com/people/brian-doherty) | February 16, 2012
Business Insider with details on the Ron Paul campaign's stealth efforts (http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-02-15/politics/31062266_1_paul-s-campaign-ron-paul-vote-count) for total Republican Party dominance, after explaining again all the reasons to doubt the legitimacy (http://reason.com/blog/2012/02/13/ron-paul-who-won-maine) of the announced straw poll vote (nonbinding on eventual delegates) in Maine:
The Paul campaign believes it has won the majority of Maine's delegates....
Caucus chaos has also proved to be fertile ground for Paul's quiet takeover of the Republican Party. Since 2008, the campaign and Paul's Campaign for Liberty PAC have made a concerted effort to get Paul sympathists involved in the political process. Now, tumult in state party organizations has allowed these supporters to rise up the ranks.
"We like strong party leadership when it comes from us," Paul campaign chair Jesse Benton told Business Insider. "Our people work very hard to make sure that their voice is heard."
The fruits of this labor are evident in Iowa, where Paul's former state campaign co-chair A.J. Spiker was just elected as the new chairman of the Iowa Republican Party. Spiker replaces Matt Strawn, who stepped down over this year's Iowa caucus dustup. In Nevada, the state chair has also resigned over caucus disaster, and several Ron Paul supporters are well-positioned to step up to fill the void. These new leaders not only expand Paul's influence at the state level, but also help protect Paul and his hard-won delegates from state party machinations as the delegate-selection process moves to district and state conventions, and eventually the Republican National Convention this summer.
"We are always trying to bring people into the party," Benton said. "I think that is a very positive thing for Republicans. Ron is the person who can build the Republican base, bring new blood into the party. That's how you build the party."
In Maine, the caucus disaster has made the state GOP prime for a Ron Paul takeover. And that means that Paul's hard-won delegates will be protected as the delegate selection process
"We are taking over the party," Wead told BI. "That's the important thing — and that is what we are doing in Maine."
Daily Beast has more on this angle of Paul's ongoing secret victory (http://reason.com/admin/pages/The%20Paul%20campaign%20believes%20it%20has%20won% 20the%20majority%20of%20Maine%27s%20delegates%20%E 2%80%94%20and%20the%20perceived%20election%20fraud %20has%20galvanized%20Paul%20supporters%20to%20dem and%20their%20votes%20be%20counted%20in%20the%20st ate%27s%20straw%20poll%20%27beauty%20contest.%27%2 0Caucus%20chaos%20has%20also%20proved%20to%20be%20 fertile%20ground%20for%20Paul%27s%20quiet%20takeov er%20of%20the%20Republican%20Party.%20Since%202008 ,%20the%20campaign%20and%20Paul%27s%20Campaign%20f or%20Liberty%20PAC%20have%20made%20a%20concerted%2 0effort%20to%20get%20Paul%20sympathists%20involved %20in%20the%20political%20process.%20Now,%20tumult %20in%20state%20party%20organizations%20has%20allo wed%20these%20supporters%20to%20rise%20up%20the%20 ranks.%20%22We%20like%20strong%20party%20leadershi p%20when%20it%20comes%20from%20us,%22%20Paul%20cam paign%20chair%20Jesse%20Benton%20told%20Business%2 0Insider.%20%22Our%20people%20work%20very%20hard%2 0to%20make%20sure%20that%20their%20voice%20is%20he ard.%22%20The%20fruits%20of%20this%20labor%20are%2 0evident%20in%20Iowa,%20where%20Paul%27s%20former% 20state%20campaign%20co-chair%20A.J.%20Spiker%20was%20just%20elected%20as% 20the%20new%20chairman%20of%20the%20Iowa%20Republi can%20Party.%20Spiker%20replaces%20Matt%20Strawn,% 20who%20stepped%20down%20over%20this%20year%27s%20 Iowa%20caucus%20dustup.%20In%20Nevada,%20the%20sta te%20chair%20has%20also%20resigned%20over%20caucus %20disaster,%20and%20several%20Ron%20Paul%20suppor ters%20are%20well-positioned%20to%20step%20up%20to%20fill%20the%20vo id.%20These%20new%20leaders%20not%20only%20expand% 20Paul%27s%20influence%20at%20the%20state%20level, %20but%20also%20help%20protect%20Paul%20and%20his% 20hard-won%20delegates%20from%20state%20party%20machinati ons%20as%20the%20delegate-selection%20process%20moves%20to%20district%20and% 20state%20conventions,%20and%20eventually%20the%20 Republican%20National%20Convention%20this%20summer .%20%22We%20are%20always%20trying%20to%20bring%20p eople%20into%20the%20party,%22%20Benton%20said.%20 %22I%20think%20that%20is%20a%20very%20positive%20t hing%20for%20Republicans.%20Ron%20is%20the%20perso n%20who%20can%20build%20the%20Republican%20base,%2 0bring%20new%20blood%20into%20the%20party.%20That% 27s%20how%20you%20build%20the%20party.%22%20In%20M aine,%20the%20caucus%20disaster%20has%20made%20the %20state%20GOP%20prime%20for%20a%20Ron%20Paul%20ta keover.%20And%20that%20means%20that%20Paul%27s%20h ard-won%20delegates%20will%20be%20protected%20as%20the %20delegate%20selection%20process%20%22We%20are%20 taking%20over%20the%20party,%22%20Wead%20told%20BI .%20%22That%27s%20the%20important%20thing%20%E2%80 %94%20and%20that%20is%20what%20we%20are%20doing%20 in%20Maine.%22%20Read%20more:%20http:/articles.businessinsider.com/2012-02-15/politics/31062266_1_paul-s-campaign-ron-paul-vote-count#ixzz1mabAqjO9), focusing not on the GOP per se but his ideological conquest of the young and the wired:
According to the Election Oracle, Paul has played online with remarkable consistency, staying entirely in positive territory and avoiding the volatile shifts and dips of his opponents. One reason is obvious: The 20- and 30-somethings who ardently support the free-market platform of the aging candidate are heavy web users who gush about him on political blogs, in news comments and on Twitter. But less clear is how for weeks, Paul, despite his controversial and provocative ideas to massively reign in the size of government, has escaped any online controversy or sustained attack.
http://reason.com/assets/mc/_external/2012_02/16-storychart-v2.jpg
To determine its favorability ratings, the Election Oracle tracks 40,000 news sites, blogs, message boards, Twitter feeds, and other social-media sources to analyze what millions of people are saying about the candidates—and determines whether the web buzz is positive or negative. That rating is weighted, along with the Real Clear Politics polling average and the latest InTrade market data, to calculate each candidate’s chances of winning the Republican nomination. (See methodology here. (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/12/30/election-oracle-methodology.html))
The downside of Paul's web popularity is that it isn't quite a representative sample. The positive web rating comes from his enthusiastic fans, but few others are talking about him....
Meanwhile, a CNN poll has Paul coming on top on the question of whether his policies are perceived as good for the middle class, above all his GOP opponents as well as President Obama. See this CNN clip, in which the graphic amusingly places the number one Paul at the bottom of the list:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3bskuJNYzU&feature=player_embedded
vacuum
16th February 2012, 05:25 PM
This is news. Should be on drudge.
jimswift
17th February 2012, 09:00 AM
Chris Matthews putting his stink on it. Fuckin scumbag motherfucker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=11rLxqgPc9w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=11rLxqgPc9w
EE_
17th February 2012, 02:59 PM
They all got the memo and they're all in on it. May their livers rot!
JohnQPublic
17th February 2012, 05:01 PM
Fuck Chris Matthews. He is a cock gobbler extraordinaire that still has jizz running down his leg from that feeling he got from BO in 2008.
Folks, the bottom line is that Ron Paul has no chance regardless of his support. We can try all we want, but it is an uphill climb on ice while wearing slippers. Good luck with that.
So...
Basically give up?
Naaahhhhhh!
Steal
18th February 2012, 09:30 AM
with 7,000 registered republicans in Washington county Maine, this could get interesting. With Romney getting a beat down, Santorum getting propped up and he is the biggest joke of all. Could you imagine how desperate and completley stupid the establishment would look if they start trying to shovel a santorum presidency down everyones throat? I hear alot of die hard liberatarians saying how impossible it would be for Ron Paul to get the nomination....I still have hope though. Just need to keep a bright light on everything going on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRlHPExFFRM
JohnQPublic
18th February 2012, 11:28 AM
Paul will win. The MSM will not report it.
JDRock
18th February 2012, 12:00 PM
what he said ^^^^^
EE_
18th February 2012, 12:33 PM
I believe RP won Maine, but it won't be mentioned until after big Jewish money has rigged the Super Tuesday convention too.
Big Jewish money is financing/rigging this whole election, just like they have in previous elections. No one with any power ever stands against them. The last one in 1963, got his head peeled off.
They will keep winning until they are erased from this earth.
Cebu_4_2
18th February 2012, 02:07 PM
^^ Jackie did it.
Steal
18th February 2012, 09:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM8sNtjgSnE&feature=g-all-lik&context=G207549aFAAAAAAAAAAA
Steal
18th February 2012, 09:20 PM
should have been a bigger turnout of Ron Paul supporters ???
Saturday’s caucuses in Hancock opened at 10 a.m. with prayer and the pledge of allegiance and featured speakers in support of Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul and Mitt Romney. When the microphone was offered to a supporter of Rick Santorum, no one came forward.
http://bangordailynews.com/2012/02/18/politics/ron-paul-carries-hancock-as-state-nears-end-of-gop-caucuses/
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