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Ares
17th February 2012, 08:16 AM
(NaturalNews) It is with much sadness that we report the two-year war waged by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) against Pennsylvania Amish farmer Dan Allgyer has been a success. The Washington Times and others are now reporting that, following a ruling last month by Judge Lawrence F. Stengel that Allgyer could no longer ship raw milk across state lines, he is officially shutting down his entire Rainbow Acres Farm.

Provoking Allgyer to shut down his farm appears to have been the goal of the FDA all along, which back on February 4, 2010, conducted a gestapo-style raid on Allgyer's Kinzers, Penn., property to search for evidence that he was shipping raw milk across state lines. After illegally trespassing on the man's property, the agents proceeded to harass Allgyer about his supposed involvement in interstate commerce (http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com).

Just a few months later on April 20, 2010, the FDA again sent its Nazi-sympathizing thugs back to Rainbow Acres Farm, this time at 4:30 a.m. while Allgyer was still asleep, to conduct another raid. Violating the provisions of their so-called warrant, which specified that any inspection must be conducted during "reasonable times during ordinary business hours," the agents proceeded to once again ransack the farm in search of evidence to back their claims that Allgyer was engaged in illegal interstate commerce (http://www.naturalnews.com/029322_raw_milk_Amish.html).

Following this second sting, the FDA claims to have discovered the evidence it needed, and immediately sent Allgyer a warning letter notifying him that he was in violation of interstate commerce laws, according to their view (http://www.farmtoconsumer.org/aa/aa-26april2010.htm). The agency also filed a civil complaint against Allgyer around the same time.

With hundreds of happy and satisfied out-of-state customers that relied on him for fresh supplies of raw milk, Allgyer attempted to satisfy the FDA's demands by restructuring his farm's distribution process into private cow share agreements with customers. Such agreements allow individuals to directly purchase shares in the cows from which they get milk, which means they personally own them, and they are not subject to FDA jurisdiction.

Rogue judge essentially declares FDA has jurisdiction over private property use, in this case cows
But on February 3, 2012, Judge Stengel decided that Allgyer was still in violation of interstate commerce laws, even with the restructured cow sharing arrangements, and ordered him to stop distributing raw milk altogether. Private cow share agreements do not constitute interstate commerce, of course, but Judge Stengel apparently pays no regard to individual liberty, having declared that the FDA basically now has jurisdiction over private property use.

Likely worn down from the perpetual and never-ending harassment, Allgyer appears to have decided to simply give up trying to fight this unprecedented tyranny, and simply shut down his farm. Hundreds of families that relied on Allgyer for fresh milk, butter, cheese, eggs, and other nutritious goods will now have to find a new source for clean food, at least until the FDA shuts them down, too.

"I can't believe in 2012 the federal government is raiding Amish farmers at gunpoint all over a basic human right to eat natural food," said one of the farm's former customers, who wished to remain anonymous, to The Washington Times. "In Maryland, they force taxpayers to pay for abortions, but God forbid we want the same milk our grandparents drank."

http://www.naturalnews.com/035000_Amish_farmers_raw_milk_feds.html

Son-of-Liberty
17th February 2012, 08:26 AM
It's a shame. I don't know how the people that enforce these laws can live with themselves.

In this case it is even worse as it looks like the judge is just making the law up the way he sees fit.

gunDriller
17th February 2012, 08:56 AM
i have a hunch the Amish farmer wasn't going for the Kosher rating.

undgrd
17th February 2012, 09:11 AM
He wasn't going for a rating period...and THAT ain't Kosher.
;-)

EE_
17th February 2012, 01:00 PM
Some spend their lives trying to live their dream, others live their lives to crush those dreams.

Hatha Sunahara
17th February 2012, 02:27 PM
I just finished reading Marc Stevens Adventures in Legal Land. I posted a review of the book in the Marc Stevens thread (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?58873-Marc-Stevens&p=517583&viewfull=1#post517583). I can understand what is going on because Marc Stevens has stripped my of my illusions and described what the bureaucrats really are, and what the state and the law really are.

This is another absurdity that destroys lives and erodes the social fabric because the FDA is deviating from a concept of 'Natural Law' which is universal law among human beings.

<h5>
"The first 100 years of American lawyers were trained on Blackstone, who wrote that: 'The law of nature … dictated by God himself … is binding … in all counties and at all times; no human laws are of any validity if contrary to this; and such of them as are valid derive all force and all their authority … from this original. http://www.intmensorg.info/corruptusacourts.htm </h5>

The more they deviate from this universal law, the closer they come to being stripped of all their powers. Humanity lived on raw milk since the beginning of time. What really gives the FDA the power to outlaw it? Nothing. But they will claim that 'apathy' is consent to their power. All we can do is demonstrate our lack of apathy on this issue. I am confident that if we remain passive, the government will reach a point that all of its dealings will be perceived as the 'theater of the absurd'. For now, they have the guns to kill anyone who objects.


Hatha

chad
17th February 2012, 02:59 PM
there's really no reason for people to drink milk. it's a growth hormone for baby cows. unless you're a baby cow, you really don't need it.

lapis
17th February 2012, 03:33 PM
Journalist David Gumpert follows raw milk litigation cases and reports on them on his The Complete Patient blog.

In the post about this case which concerns a private buying club NOT open to the public, what's really alarming is that Judge Stengel


"gave no credence to the private contractual arrangement between [farmer] Allgyer, Grassfed on the Hill food club, and a third organization, Right to Choose Healthy Food" and "suggested in a footnote that individuals who traveled to Allgyer's farm to pick up their milk and bring it back to Maryland would be in violation of federal law. He said that "the purchase of raw milk by one who traveled between states to obtain it, or traveled between states before consuming it or sharing it with friends or family member, implicates 'commerce between any State..."

Isn't that stretching the concept of "commerce"?

No Raw Milk for Your "Subterfuge" Food Club, Federal Judge Tells MD Members in Slapping Permanent Injunction on PA Amish Farmer Dan Allgyer (http://www.thecompletepatient.com/journal/2012/2/8/no-raw-milk-for-your-subterfuge-food-club-federal-judge-tell.html)

Large Sarge
17th February 2012, 04:43 PM
raw milk is one of the only sources of glutathione/cysteine

Bigjon
17th February 2012, 07:43 PM
raw milk is one of the only sources of glutathione/cysteine

I drink it every day. 3 gallons a week. Greens run through cows are great.

PlatinumBlonde
18th February 2012, 06:00 AM
With all due respect that is not for you and anyone to decide what people eat or drink..

lapis
18th February 2012, 02:45 PM
I drink it every day. 3 gallons a week. Greens run through cows are great.

Ha ha! I love how you put that, and it's so true! That is certainly one of the more tastier ways to "get greens," especially for kids.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
18th February 2012, 05:49 PM
there's really no reason for people to drink milk. it's a growth hormone for baby cows. unless you're a baby cow, you really don't need it.

The counter-argument would be that mammals drink milk, and that some humans have an enzyme for digesting cow's milk.

Personally I wish we did not need to eat at all. People make funny faces when I say this, but I really do wish we could be healthy without eating. It is so messy, and taking in any calories encourages cell division & mitosis (and therefore, growth - but with it, eventual cell death).

Some studies have suggested that caloric restriction slows aging.

There was an old episode of Star Trek (original series) where Kirk was captured by some aliens. While he was held prisoner, they tried to give him a thin vial of amber liquid that they claimed was the only thing he needed to survive.

It sure would be nice.

lapis
18th February 2012, 06:08 PM
The counter-argument would be that mammals drink milk

Did you mean that mammals like to drink the milk of other mammals? Yes, this is very true. My dog and cats don't care that it's for baby cows.


Personally I wish we did not need to eat at all.

It sure would be nice.It would be nice to be a breatharian, wouldn't it?

gunDriller
18th February 2012, 06:29 PM
Did you mean that mammals like to drink the milk of other mammals? Yes, this is very true. My dog and cats don't care that it's for baby cows.

It would be nice to be a breatharian, wouldn't it?

and miss out on a rib eye steak - or sprouts with a good dressing - or a Reese's peanut butter cup ?

NO WAY ! ;)

lapis
18th February 2012, 09:17 PM
Heh. You have a point. It's easy to make those kinds of philosophical remarks on a full stomach after I've eaten dinner. And it was a good one too, that dh made: homemade carne asada chips with marinated beef, beans and melted cheese. We had run out of sour cream, unfortunately. But the chips! They're from a local company that fries them in coconut oil in small batches. Only second in taste to making a fresh batch on the stove in a cast-iron pan.

Note that it's the dairy ingredients that is at the heart of the dish, like many good meals.

The evil bastards behind the Rainbow Acres Farm raid are in concert with those who want us to wreck our health by replacing tasty nutrient-dense dairy foods with inferior imitation crap like soy milk that have to be fortified with minerals and vitamins because they inherently have little.

On a related note, at a local Asian grocery stores one of the brands of stir-fry noodles had a picture of the cooked noodles made only with vegetables on the package.

This is the first time I've seen these pictures without meat. I didn't think they were going to roll out the meatless propaganda to the Asians quite yet, but I guess they are accelerating the program to get all the peasants of the world used to gruel again.

Some of the pickles contained questionable ingredients like sucralose, artificial colors and corn oil. Not exactly "traditional" ingredients in Asia, eh.

Son-of-Liberty
19th February 2012, 10:13 AM
raw milk is one of the only sources of glutathione/cysteine

Raw eggs are also a good source.

http://www.amazing-glutathione.com/raw-eggs.html

Sounds like raw eggs + supplemental glycine. (glycine is cheap btw) would increase glutathione quite well. Although this article says that glycine is plentiful in the diet I have heard that due to the toxic world we live in most people are deficient in glycine. Even 3-5 grams a day can help bolster your detoxification pathways.

Awoke
21st February 2012, 11:09 AM
there's really no reason for people to drink milk. it's a growth hormone for baby cows. unless you're a baby cow, you really don't need it.

As much as that is the truth, who is the FDA to say that you can or cannot drink it? What is next, no eating non-irradiated eggs? No eating non-GMO wheat? We have to take the power back from these thugs.

The farmer should have treated the 4:30am raiders as just that: Raiders.

palani
21st February 2012, 11:16 AM
I didn't think they were going to roll out the meatless propaganda to the Asians quite yet
Grasshoppers or crickets classify as meat? We feed our cats regularly but they only get fat when the crickets are plentiful.

chad
21st February 2012, 11:18 AM
i don't care if people want to drink raw milk, and i don't think the government should have anything to say about it. same for drugs, alcohol, etc. if you want to put it in you, go ahead, it doesn't hurt me.

i think past being a kid + growing though, milk doesn't really have any magical powers that you can't get somewhere else. rGBH in milk weirds me out. i guess the amish probably don't have that in their milk though (but maybe they do).

palani
21st February 2012, 11:18 AM
The farmer should have treated the 4:30am raiders as just that: Raiders.

Maybe he thought it a better idea to switch to organic vegetables than become an inhabitant of Stone City?

lapis
21st February 2012, 02:07 PM
Grasshoppers or crickets classify as meat? We feed our cats regularly but they only get fat when the crickets are plentiful.

Yes, they certainly do. Bugs are actually quite nutrient-dense, so don't over look them as the food source if the time ever comes where the necessity for foraging in the outdoors for food becomes a reality.

lapis
21st February 2012, 02:16 PM
i think past being a kid + growing though, milk doesn't really have any magical powers that you can't get somewhere else.

You could get them elsewhere, but milk especially from grass-fed cows has a lot of nutrients in one convenient easy-to-take package!

On a related issue, I'm surprised how well the PTB have been at maligning this food source and convincing people that it's bad. This country was practically founded on dairy and meat from cows. Look at any old American cookbook from the 18th and 19th century, and there are tons of recipes revolving around dairy.

These Amish people are some of the last ones in this country to preserve these old ways of making good food, and I think that's one of the reasons they're being targeted as never before.


rGBH in milk weirds me out. i guess the amish probably don't have that in their milk though (but maybe they do).AFAIK they don't, and that's one of the main reasons people want their dairy products. It hasn't been tampered with except to add cultures to make yogurt and other stuff.

Awoke
22nd February 2012, 05:38 AM
Maybe he thought it a better idea to switch to organic vegetables than become an inhabitant of Stone City?

Why change anything? It's none of their business if he farms raw milk, and it's none of their business if people from all over the world want to buy it. Those home invaders should have been treated like home invaders.

palani
22nd February 2012, 05:57 AM
Why change anything? It's none of their business if he farms raw milk, and it's none of their business if people from all over the world want to buy it. Those home invaders should have been treated like home invaders.

Isn't it less painful to abate a nuisance than rise from the dead?

The remedy is to file suit in a court of equity seeking an injunction preventing them from doing it again.

We are still under war powers. Many states of emergency have been declared and never terminated. Governments operate under the Roman principle of necessity and under this maxim (necessity imports privilege) they can do anything including killing you. Stop acting like they are acting under sort of lawful authority, smile and agree and then abate the nuisance. They will learn eventually.