97% of Terminal Cancer Patients Previously Had This Dental Procedure...

[Serpo]

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/02/18/dangers-of-root-canaled-teeth.aspx?e_cid=20120218_DNL_art_1

[vacuum]

Wow

And that's all caps....it won't let me write WOW

[Glass]

this scares me because I am struggling with very high blood pressure. My face looks sunburnt and my head feels too big for my skin. This started a couple of months ago and probably lines up with when my rooted tooth broke part of the cap. Another huge chunk broke off yesterday. So it seems I need to get this thing pulled pronto.

[Cebu_4_2]

Do bongs!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oYbOvx54OOs#!

[Cebu_4_2]

I really detest the term 'patients' they are in a study group that never has any legitamite findings. 'Patient' is a false term.

[gunDriller]

this scares me because I am struggling with very high blood pressure. My face looks sunburnt and my head feels too bug for my skin. This started a couple of months ago and probably lines up with when my rooted tooth broke part of the cap. Another huge chunk broke off yesterday. So it seems I need to get this thing pulled pronto.

sh.t, sounds bad - hope you get it taken care of & back to full health !

[Steal]

time to start knocking back some collodial silver?

[vacuum]

time to start knocking back some collodial silver?
Good idea.

I'd swoosh it around in my mouth for a prolonged period then spit it out daily. Maybe drink it less frequently like once or twice a week.

[willie pete]

i'd NEVER have a RC procedure done

[joboo]

This sounds like total BS to me. I'd put money on it.

[Steal]

This sounds like total BS to me. I'd put money on it.

sent the link to a friend of mine who is a dentist. Hes sick of bending over looking down mouths (lol, at age 38) and in school up north east to become full time anestheologist. Curious to see what he has to say about it. pretty bright guy.

I myself have had two root canals, by my friend. currently have a wisdom tooth that he said year back needed to come out. small piece broke off last night, guess its time, bah! sucks looking for a dentist now. hoping he replys back and says hes coming back in town for awhile. Just made some CS tonight for first time, tried a table spoon. barely yellow but registered 15 ppm. Will let you know if I start looking like a blueberry.

[joboo]

sent the link to a friend of mine who is a dentist. Hes sick of bending over looking down mouths (lol, at age 38) and in school up north east to become full time anestheologist. Curious to see what he has to say about it. pretty bright guy.

Logistically it does not make sense to me. Somehow the immune system does not detect the dead tooth in the mouth, i.e abcess, sore gums, bleeding gums, etc... but then proceeds to elicit a massive immune system response elsewhere in the body away from the point of origin? Doesn't sound right.

[learn2swim]

I think it's BS too. If the tooth is packed with a toxic substance, I'm sure that can cause some problems. I think the increase in cancer rates has more to do with all the industrial chemicals (food, water, air ,and so on) in our environment, than anything else.

[lapis]

Logistically it does not make sense to me. Somehow the immune system does not detect the dead tooth in the mouth, i.e abcess, sore gums, bleeding gums, etc... but then proceeds to elicit a massive immune system response elsewhere in the body away from the point of origin? Doesn't sound right.

Well your blood travels all through your body from your mouth. Like the article says, people with gum disease are highly likely to also have heart problems. One theory is that the bacteria in your mouth enters the blood stream and then sticks to fatty plaques in the heart's blood vessels.

If you have heart problems, periodontal disease can exacerbate them, and this is one of the reasons dentists recommend that you start taking antibiotics before having your teeth cleaned.

A couple of husbands of my friends had heart attacks shortly after routine teeth cleaning and other procedures. One of the dentists had recommended that the man take antibiotics, but they were the super-expensive kind so he declined, thinking the dentist wanted to pad the bill.

The article mentions dentist and nutrition researcher Weston Price. He was the chairman of the Research Institute of the National Dental Association, which later became the American Dental Association. However, he is best known for his seminal book Nutrition and Physical Degeneration (http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html).

In it he documents how he cured his patients' cavities with nutrient-dense foods like spring butter, cod liver oil, and whole wheat rolls made from freshly-ground wheat. Despite the before and after x-rays that show the cavities healed his research into optimal diet is not taught to dentists today, and most have never heard of him.

[lapis]

I think it's BS too. If the tooth is packed with a toxic substance, I'm sure that can cause some problems. I think the increase in cancer rates has more to do with all the industrial chemicals (food, water, air ,and so on) in our environment, than anything else.

I wonder if most health problems are caused and/or exacerbated by several things at one time.

In this case, people may be more susceptible to cancer whose bodies are suffering with chronic infections like those in the mouth and who are also exposed to industrial chemicals, taking vaccines, and eating crappy food.

The article points out something that I just learned recently, which makes me cringe when I think of all my numerous root canals:

"Just as your body has large blood vessels that branch down into very small capillaries, each of your teeth has a maze of very tiny tubules that, if stretched out, would extend for three miles."
Great!

[lapis]

this scares me because I am struggling with very high blood pressure. My face looks sunburnt and my head feels too big for my skin. This started a couple of months ago and probably lines up with when my rooted tooth broke part of the cap. Another huge chunk broke off yesterday. So it seems I need to get this thing pulled pronto.

Holy cow, you better take care of that! It sounds really serious.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

We need a full thread dedicated to dental procedures and the least harmful way to go about them. i.e. if you have to get a filling, what is the least harmful option? Even gold is an amalgam.

Been meaning to start a thread like that for a long time.

[willie pete]

this scares me because I am struggling with very high blood pressure. My face looks sunburnt and my head feels too big for my skin. This started a couple of months ago and probably lines up with when my rooted tooth broke part of the cap. Another huge chunk broke off yesterday. So it seems I need to get this thing pulled pronto.

what's your BP? are you on meds? IF so, doesn't sound like they're managing it to good, I'd see your cardiologist for a re-eval

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My guess is that poor nutrition and bacterial infection CAUSES the need for a root canal in the first place. Our run-down body has the systemic infection before the root canal procedure.

::)

[iOWNme]

Although i have heard this before, i have to ask this question:

How many non cancer patients have had root canals?

[Serpo]

In the old days the people in India did not use neem toothpaste. They used neem toothbrushes instead.
Chewing on a neem twig has for many centuries been the commonly preferred way to prevent gum disease and maintain healthy teeth.
These rural people had never used a "real" toothbrush, didn't know Crest or Colgate, yet they had perfect teeth. A perfect natural solution.
Researchers believe the tradition of using neem twigs for dental care has helped Indian villagers to avoid cavities and tooth loss, although they have no access to modern dental care facilities or products.
And where did the controversial fluoride get us? Holes everywhere...
And then the other evil: plaque, tartar, gingivitis, periodontitis... You heard all about it. Gum disease is a recognized public health problem in the western world. The widespread chronic infection of gums (gingivitis) is even believed to contribute to heart disease.
But can we believe the tales from India? What does modern research say about toothpaste with neem?
Does neem toothpaste really work?

Researchers have studied the effects of neem on gum disease in detail (http://www.discoverneem.com/neem-gum-disease.html).
The results?
The studies agree with the anecdotal evidence and thousands of years of traditional use. Neem can...


prevent and heal gum disease,
prevent cavities,
eliminate bacteria that cause cavities and inflammation of the gums,
prevent bacteria from adhering to your teeth (reduce plaque),
enhance mouth immunity in general,
and through all this freshen the breath.

Considering that the use of neem in tooth care has shown no side effects whatsoever, whereas fluoride is now highly controversial, wouldn't you want to switch?
Interesting Neem Toothpaste Fact: Did You know?

The researchers used mainly neem leaf powders and extracts in their research. Interestingly the neem leaf is not even the most effective neem product for dental care purposes, it's the neem bark (hence the chewing of neem twigs).
But manufacturers don't want to use bark in a toothpaste, because that would make it brown. And the public isn't educated enough to accept such a product. It needs to look right, too...
If you do have a serious problem with gum disease, it may pay to look around for neem products containing the bark. Some toothpastes do contain bark extracts. Neem mouth wash often uses neem bark as well as leaf extract. Neem tooth powder can contain dried leaf but also neem bark and neem seed.
You can also buy straight neem bark powder. Just dip your loaded toothbrush into it before brushing your teeth!
Things you should know before buying neem toothpaste

Check the ingredients list of any neem toothpaste. Not every toothpaste with neem is a totally natural toothpaste. You can find many neem toothpastes that have all the conventional ingredients and just use neem as an additional ingredient.
I am not saying they are bad. They are great for oral care as they do offer all the neem benefits. But if your main concern is avoiding SLS, fluoride and similar chemicals, then read the label carefully.
Buy neem products from a reliable, quality manufacturer. A while back there was also a neem toothpaste health scare: one brand of neem toothpaste (Neem Active Toothpaste with Calcium), at the time made by by Calcutta Chemical Co. Ltd. in India, was found to be contaminated with the toxic Diethylene Glycol (DEG). It also contained harmful levels of bacteria.
Note that the company in Calcutta has since been bought out by Henkel. It was only the older toothpaste from Calcutta that was contaminated. Neem Active Toothpaste is totally safe. But this just goes to show how important it is to only buy neem products from reliable, quality manufacturers.
Herbal neem toothpaste is NOT neem oil toothpaste. There is no neem oil toothpaste.
Readers keep sending in questions about using neem oil for teeth. One reader even wanted to smear neem oil on his baby son's gums on a regular basis!
Neem oil is for external use only!!! To battle insects, pests and parasites, and for skin and hair care. Neem oil is NOT safe to take internally, ESPECIALLY for children!
Neem toothpaste is made with neem leaf and neem bark. Don't make toothpaste or oral care products with neem oil.
By the way, if you live in a tropical area, you can make your own neem toothbrush (http://www.discoverneem.com/neem-toothbrush.html). If not, then luckily you can buy neem toothpaste...


http://www.discoverneem.com/neem-toothpaste.html



also....http://parlor.sakthifoundation.org/parlor-dental.htm

[joboo]

Although i have heard this before, i have to ask this question:

How many non cancer patients have had root canals?

This is true, and seems to be left out of the study.

If there's all these tiny holes in your teeth, then how can the bacteria not cause an immune system response in the gums?

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97% of Terminal Cancer Patients Spent Little Time With Mr. Toothbrush.

[solid]

Folks, having recently had a root canal this is a concern..

My question, my capped tooth which was drilled for the canal procedure, was recently permanently filled with silver. Since we all know silver 65 times more organisms than anti-biotics, is it possible having silver fillings could offset the negative response to the root canal?

[Glass]

Folks, having recently had a root canal this is a concern..

My question, my capped tooth which was drilled for the canal procedure, was recently permanently filled with silver. Since we all know silver 65 times more organisms than anti-biotics, is it possible having silver fillings could offset the negative response to the root canal?

So it's silver with out an amalgam?

The other thing about this, without reading back through the posts I'm sure someone pointed out correlation is not causality. Still I need work done so it may as well be dealt with once and for all.

[lapis]

97% of Terminal Cancer Patients Spent Little Time With Mr. Toothbrush.

You think so? This is a small sample size, but most everyone I know, I'd say 99%, religiously brush and floss their teeth. Yet they have decay and malocclusion problems. And Weston Price's research (http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html) shows that people in optimal health have virtually no dental problems despite not brushing, flossing or ever seeing a dentist.

[Steal]

this scares me because I am struggling with very high blood pressure. My face looks sunburnt and my head feels too big for my skin. This started a couple of months ago and probably lines up with when my rooted tooth broke part of the cap. Another huge chunk broke off yesterday. So it seems I need to get this thing pulled pronto.

I just had that wisdom tooth pulled I was speaking of (1 hour ago) Got 21 more hydrocodone to throw in the shtf med supplies. Started taking collodial silver (15ppm) Sunday, 2 tbs pr day. Reason was I have had a cold a week. Can not say if CS works or not. Seems like a placebo to me currently. Of course I feel better. BUT , I get colds like this 2-3x per year. Always takes 10-14 days to get rid of, am at about day 12 now. I never go to doctor to get antibiotic. Question I have is: Medical Doctors are known for over prescribing antibiotics. ( I rarely take them) I have a perscription of AMOX TR-K ( generic for Augmentin) 500mg x21. Am debating on skipping and throwing in shft med bag. BUT in light of the bacteria issue of this thread , wondering If I should just wait. I have many bottles of bird/fish form of antibiotics already in my shft med bag. (emergency use only of course) A great book to get if you have not is this one>>>>http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Pearson-Nurses-Drug-Guide-2010/Billie-A-Wilson/e/9780135076132?r=1&cm_mmc=GooglePLA-_-UsedTextbook-_-Q000000633-_-9780135076132&cm_mmca2=pla
So question, should I just take the antibiotics? and worry about shtf problems when they get here? ( while sitting in dentist chair, I was imaging how painfull getting that big tooth yanked would be with out getting numbed prior, hint, get your dental care taken care of now!)

below is vid that in 2010 got me looking at pet meds and how to use for humans, though proper amounts etc I am clueless on, was hoping that if needed, info could be pulled from that nurse book on drugs. Anyone else stock up on pet meds ??


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOfthwm_v3E


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&v=q0YYyrMVUbk&annotation_id=annotation_870152&src_vid=DOfthwm_v3E

[dys]

Interesting and much appreciated thread. I don't know very much about this subject, but the one factor that I believe is underrepresented here is genetics. I've noticed that people with naturally whiter teeth tend to have more cavities than people with teeth that are more yellow, off white, or gray. They often complain they have 'soft teeth'. My teeth are naturally more gray than white, and I never had a cavity until the age of 34. Even then, it was only 1 and I've never had a problem since (I got it yanked, it was all the way in the back). And trust me, I had some years of hard living before the age of 34.

dys

[Sparky]

Although i have heard this before, i have to ask this question:

How many non cancer patients have had root canals?

+1 to Sui Juris for asking this question. Learn to understand statistics. It should be required education in schools.

[Book]

Learn to understand statistics.



I also suggest questioning the motive of the OP website. He is selling a book. He makes money linking to and promoting his buddies who are so-called "biological dentists".




I strongly recommend consulting a biological dentist because they are uniquely trained to do these extractions properly and safely, as well as being adept at removing mercury fillings (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/01/17/fda-action-on-dental-amalgam.aspx), if necessary. Their approach to dental care is far more holistic and considers the impact on your entire body—not JUST your mouth.
If you need to find a biological dentist in your area, I recommend visiting toxicteeth.org (http://www.toxicteeth.org/dentistsDoctorsProducts.aspx)xi, a resource sponsored by Consumers for Dental Choice. This organization, championed by Charlie Brown, is a highly reputable organization that has fought to protect and educate consumers so that they can make better-informed decisions about their dental care.

:)

[JDRock]

This sounds like total BS to me. I'd put money on it.
really?? the dental community via the ada was seminal and indispensable to the introduction and public acceptance of flouride.

[johnlvs2run]

really?? the dental community via the ada was seminal and indispensable to the introduction and public acceptance of flouride.

True, but they did that by paying off state legislatures, city councils, and holding bogus elections. The one here if you voted "no" it meant yes to fluoride and if you voted "yes" it meant no. Besides that, they counted the votes, and they'd already gotten it pushed through as a mandate. The public has rightfully never been accepting of fluoride.

There is where I've gone.
http://www.biodentalstudios.com/Biologic-Dentistry-FAQs.html

[JDRock]

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