mick silver
26th February 2012, 12:46 PM
He predicted the First World War happening. He wanted the International Workers’ Movement to not comply with the royal families and aristocracy, and when you read about him you’ll find this out yourself. Just a couple of months before the outbreak, when the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand took place in Serbia, Jaurès was assassinated in a French café. They killed him. He was shot dead, and with him went that movement.
Prior to World War One, he saw the writing on the wall. He saw the aristocracies and the royal families of Europe pitting themselves against one another, in a big battle. He knew that France and Germany, the United Kingdom were all industrialized nations. He further realized that being industrialized, the next war will be an industrial war where millions of people might be killed.
He formed a movement which some have termed as communist. It was the International Workers’ Movement, and it’s got nothing to do with politics. His idea was for the ordinary person not to do anything, not to go to war, just stay at home and they wouldn’t have the war they wanted.
I personally believe that if non-violence is adopted and people become more awake to what’s happening, then these people very, very quickly lose the power that they’ve got. They feed on power. They feed on fear. So if you take these elements away from them they become powerless. They need us to do what they’re doing. They can’t do it on their own even though they’ll be damn dangerous in any event, but they can’t do it all on their own.
And that would be my message is just to wake up a bit, see what’s happening about us, put our heads above the parapet and without fearing to do that, without feeling afraid, take a deep breath, have a look around, see what’s happening, and then people will soon realize: Oh yeah. Okay. This is where we’re gonna go. This is where we’re heading and there’s not much I can do about it. But they can!
As I’ve said, it’s not to react violently. And if people are in positions where these people need them, just don’t work for them. Just stop working for them. Take your labor away because they need the troops who are going to do this work. We’re not just talking about people in the military. We’re talking about every civilian member in all the populations right across the globe. Just say: No, because this is not us. This is not what we want to do.
And it’s making that choice. It sounds ridiculously simple. I think the execution of it is that simple and it’s well within our power as human beings, conscious living, breathing, human beings who have a shared compassion for one another to do that. Because if we don’t, they’ll carry on and then they’ll realize their endgame.
B: Do you think, from your own military experience, that there are enough people in the military who are saying: You know what? I didn’t sign up for this. I’m not going to do this. Or do you think that they’ll buy into all the justifications that are being set up at the moment?
W: Well, by and large the Western military is not a conscripted army. It’s a professional army, and it prides itself on its professionalism. It prides itself on acting on behalf of the people who elected the government who sent them out to do the job that they’re doing. It’s a very difficult question to answer.
And of course, these troops are superbly trained and they believe, they wholly believe, as I did when I was in the military, that you’re doing the job for all the right reasons.
If it became clear to people who are in such professions — this is not just the military; we’re talking about the emergency services, the police, all those who’ve made their way into the security industry, we’re talking about all these people. If enough voices were heard, then those in the military who have not achieved any significant rank, who have no particular stake in the game, will then wake up themselves just as soon as anybody else.
But it’s got to be borne in mind that the Western powers have professional military services, and it’s a difficult thing to do to make it clear and let these guys and girls know that they’re not fighting the right people.
B: Sure. Let me ask a different question. Was there reference to “safe or safer places to be”? Physically, I mean.
W: No. None at all.
B: Nothing like the southern hemisphere is okay, the northern hemisphere is going to be a problem? Nothing like that?
W: No, not at that meeting. That wasn’t mentioned at all.
B: Okay. Another question I’d like to ask you, and it’s a fascinating one to debate among people who are tuned in to this whole area, is a personal one: why do you feel that the benevolent ETs, and I’m sure that they exist, why do you think that they don’t step in to say: Okay, guys, normally we’re hands-off, but this is getting serious here and we’re not going to allow this to happen. Is that possible? Why do they maintain such a distance?
W: Well, first things first. “These benevolent ETs” — I don’t actually like calling them “ETs”… I believe that these people are us and we are them.
B: Yes.
W: They’ve been around for a lot longer than the regime that’s in power at the moment. This present regime, this power-based regime, some have called them reptilians, and I’ve got no problem at all calling them that because that’s exactly what they’re like — totally cold-hearted. They’ve been around much, much longer and they’re the ones who have really made humanity what it is today.
Interventions? I believe they’ve been intervening in the best ways that they can. But we’re talking about very spiritually evolved beings, as the human race is very spiritually evolved — maybe that’s why we come back here so often, back to this planet.
But for these people who are us and we are them, as I mentioned, they don’t see time the same way that we understand time here within the physical world. For them, 11,500 years ago was a blink of an eye. It was nothing, and they already know what the endgame is going to be. They believe, as I believe, that this regime that’s in power at the moment who wish this total dominance over the Earth and everything that’s in it, are not going to win. They’re having their time now and their time is about to end.
B: On what basis do you feel that? This is very important for people reading this transcript because some people will be feeling numbed and shocked at the information that you’ve presented, thinking: Oh God, we’re really stitched up here.
W: Yes, I think if you take it from the purely physical point of view. It doesn’t mean that we’ve all got suicidal minds or something like that. We all want our lives; we all cherish our lives; everybody does. We love our lives and we want to experience them fully in all ways, in the best way we possibly can.
We’re currently being prevented from doing so because of this regime, which is based in fear; it’s all about fear. And the greatest fear that we’ve got physically is fear of death, and that’s part of the greatest power that they’ve got over us, is this type of fear, this anxiety that they can raise or lower — which they’re doing all the time.
I can’t think of a moment when this hasn’t happened, when this fear doesn’t come out and then we react to it the way that we do. It seems perfectly natural. But what happens when we don’t, stop feeling this and say: Well, it’s only fear. We can get over this, then that’s tapping into who we really are.
I don’t yet believe there are enough people around at the moment who know who they are. They define themselves by their own physical existence, which is all fear-based, and it’s cyclical, and they just can’t get out of it. And obviously they need to find their way out of it.
I believe, personally, that come this shift — I call it a shift because that’s what I believe is going to happen; the Earth’s crust is going to shift round about 30 degrees, about 1700 to 2000 miles southwards, and it will cause a huge upheaval, effects of which will last for a very long time to come. But the human race isn’t going to die off. We’re still going to be here. It’s who we are at the end of that — is where my mind is. And as for this regime, that’s where their mind is. This is why they’re doing what they’re doing because they want to be in control at the end of it.
Now, if we’re talking about intervention, this is when there will be an intervention by the “benevolent ETs.” The people who are really us, this is when it may happen, but I don’t know. I’ve got a strong intuitive feeling it will, but at the moment the situation that we have right now is not conducive for that type of intervention. Not right now.
They don’t feel it’s the right time. And in any event, physical life is only a very, very small part of who we really are, so how much importance do you place on that, knowing that when you walk from this door into the next door, you’re back home anyway?
So all that’s got to be taken into consideration, and I’m sure there’s people out there who could articulate this far better than I’m articulating this right now. I can only articulate this from a very personal point of view and that’s what I feel intuitively might happen. And I say might knowing full well that I can be certain within my own self that that sort of thing will happen, and it’s just the pain that we have to go through of reaching that point where this regime will no longer have the power that they’ve got.
People [waking] up, finding out what’s going on around them and really having a good look, and raising their conscious levels as they’ve never done before, and then everything will click into place quite quickly.
And when it does, the power that these people have will just fall off them like a towel, you know, just fall right off them, and they’ll be exposed for what they are.
B: That’s a very inspiring thought. Do you feel personally that… Let me specify a number of alternatives: That the whole war might not happen at all; that the whole thing will just fall apart? Or that all of this will fall apart after the war but before the cataclysm? Or that all of this will fall apart after the cataclysm and that the Meek will inherit the Earth, let’s say?
W: Yes. This is an extremely good question. Let’s consider two things: the first thing is the sheer determination on the part of this regime, for want of a better word, the sheer determination that they have to have this done. They’re desperate. They’re going full-out for this to happen. They’re creating the scenarios, the in, the out. It’s relentless; it’s non-stop; there’s no breathing space. And when there is breathing space, I mean, when people start to relax about things, something else will pop up to keep us within that grip of fear that they’ve generated.
That is a hugely powerful force that they have, massively powerful, and it should never be underestimated. It’s the sort of thing that drives good, honest people around the bend, putting people early into their graves through stress and anxiety. It’s coming away from that and seeing it for what it is.
If there’s enough people who can raise the levels of awareness and just see what’s happening, then everybody else will bring their heads up. I think it only needs one or two people to put their head up and just say: Yep. All’s clear, and everybody else will come up. Then you’ll see them all around the world, in various countries, just a new feeling, a better feeling than what we’ve had before, and that’s all about individuals empowering themselves by acknowledging who they really are.
And it’s nothing mystical. It’s nothing deeply cultish or anything like that. It’s got very little to do with religion. It’s all about the human spirit and the consciousness which we live through and that we all share and knowing that consciousness is undoubtedly shared by all of us — but is presently suppressed. And we have to get past those suppressive forces in order to realize who we are. When that happens — all else will follow quite naturally and that regime, dangerous as they are — I can’t emphasize this too much: These are damn dangerous people, extremely dangerous — their power will go. …
I realize I’m not saying anything that’s unique at all, but … it’s got to be repeated. People have got to be aware that there’s hope, and things need not be the way they are. They never needed to be the way they are. It can be far, far better. …
It’s this fear that people need to get over. We don’t have to be psychiatrists or psychologists or anything like that — they only deal with the mind. We don’t have to be religious leaders or great spiritual thinkers to be aware of this, because we all have it within us. It’s inherent within us. So it’s a matter of looking into oneself and then becoming comfortable with who you are; then you’ll have a knowing of what’s going on and know that it’s wrong. And everybody else… it will just spread.
Even those who’ve been indoctrinated into this regime of fear will not be able to resist it because to do so is just resisting themselves and who they really are. And it’s a wonderful thing; it’s what this universe is all about and what this whole experience is all about. And it will make these periods, these last so many thousands of years, be just… not even a bad memory… just like: Hm! Well, we’ve learnt from that. Okay?
And we’ll make sure that doesn’t happen again, and that these kind of characters who can produce this kind of fear, you know, don’t ever get a power base here again. …
I think the more aware that people become, the fear factor goes. We don’t live in that fear, so what you previously feared may no longer be a fear for that individual or for that group of people, for that matter. It just won’t be there.
That’s not to say there won’t be any concerns, there won’t be any pain or things like that; of course there will. But on top of all that, the fears that we currently experience, the physical fears of the uncertainties and the unpredictable nature of things, will be gone — they’ll just go. We’ll be left being the people who we are, and I think the human race as a whole is pretty damn wonderful.
B: Yes. That’s a wonderful thing for people to take with them, something that we’ve often mentioned.
There’s a wonderful movie. It goes back to 1984, a Jeff Bridges movie called Starman. The starman is an alien visitor who’s here for peaceful purposes, trying to understand the human race because he’s got caught up in a strange situation. And he’s trying to get back home.
Towards the end of the movie he says: Would you like to know what I find beautiful about your species? You are at your best when things are at their worst.
I’ve never forgotten that line. It’s got to do the with the fact that what’s marvelous about the human race is the ability to transcend problems and reach deep within themselves to produce the very best out of themselves in the worst situations. And of course, in the military that kind of situation is almost a tradition, that under extraordinary pressure you have people behaving with incredible heroism, and it’s that response to pressure that makes us wonderful.
W: Yes, it’s more noticeable in the military because that gets reported out. Human consciousness and how we exist through this physical world is extremely resilient. A good point to consider is that we may think sometimes we’ve got a deadlock in ethical thinking about some things, but we don’t really. Things simply differ from one person to the next which I think is another wonderful thing because it can keep conversations going for ever and ever, which is fantastic. The dialog we have helps us to understand ourselves so much better.
But it transcends deadlock, I think. It goes beyond that. It goes beyond what we know to be ethically right and so forth. It takes it to a different level when these things happen, when our resilience is tested to this extreme. We’re all capable of doing very wonderful things and it looks likely, very likely, that we’re on the cusp of where that resilience is going to be tested to the extreme.
I’m going to emphasize again that we’re playing against very dangerous people, extremely dangerous people, incredibly powerful people. And I know from my own experience that not many people have had first-hand experience with that type of power and how it exudes, and how it affects one’s person… it can make you very, very sick, make you ill to the point of breakdown. Or you join in with them, become subservient and be sycophantic to everything that they want to do, because the people who do work for them and do their bidding — and there’s quite a large number of them — are incredibly obedient and incredibly servile. They’re not what you call “free spirits” at all. You know, they’ve been taken in, taken in by them.
Maybe that’s something that people should begin to be aware of, of the kind of power that they hold at the moment, and I don’t think that’s been fully grasped yet. People are trying to see in between the margins to find out what’s going on and getting snippets of information, and those snippets are going to be very, very important.
But to act against them in any way, it can be quite disastrous. I’ve had that experience and I think many, many other people have too. So this is maybe why we should tell exactly who they are, should announce ourselves and be fearless about it. It’s because of that fear… that’s at the base of all that still exists.
B: Something that we spoke about earlier when we had a conversation a few days ago was there’s a supreme arrogance in these people, which you’ve experienced at first-hand, which George Green described when we first met and talked to him about a year and three-quarters ago: He said: They think they’ve won. They’re not worried about anything any more. They’re not trying to silence all the alternative media. Not really, you know. It’s not going to make any difference. What difference is a couple of voices going to make? The plan’s still going to roll out. It’s not going to make any difference at all, they believe, what you or I might say.
W: Well I go along with what George Green said. He’s painted a far better picture than I could, because that’s exactly what it’s like. They are incredibly arrogant. Along with their other attributes that they have, there is that arrogance there. It’s quite tangible. Yes. And they’re just comfortable about what they’re doing, totally comfortable. They’re not hiding around and sneaking about. I mean, these are quite open people, some of them, public figures.
B: Okay. Now, is there anything that we missed? Is there anything that you wanted to say but didn’t have a chance to fully enlarge on? Is there anything you want to add that I haven’t even asked you about?
W: There’s still such a story to tell, I think, because I’m very aware that people need to see a decent level of credibility in what I’ve been describing to you, and I guess that’s always a difficulty. But all I can really say is I’ve been aware of this timeline since the early ’70s, too young to understand what it was at the time.
In fact it seemed to me quite an exciting thing that was going on, and that was the first time I ever heard of the existence of the “Anglo Saxon Mission.”
And details of what I know, I feel if I started mentioning names in particular and what was mentioned and where I was at the time, might compromise the Official Secrets Act, which I’m still party to in so many aspects. I say the military. Where it’s in a civilian environment, then no; I feel happy talking about that.
I wish there was a way that I could describe other events, which you’re aware of, and do so in a manner that would allow people to understand me far better than I’ve explained here. Then they’d see exactly where I’m coming from, where I’ve been, and what I’ve been through. I feel that then people could rationalize what’s been said far better.
But I do feel that what’s been said so far is enough for people, if they so wish, to have a look themselves and uncover a few stones. And if anything of significance does come out of it which other people can corroborate, that would be fantastic. That would be good, because evidence… You know, I know it’s so crucial to do things like this, and there’s no smoking gun as such. There’s only one person reporting something that happened five years ago, principally, but there is a much, much larger story around that which you are aware of, and we need to be extremely careful about where we go with that.
B: There are many people, of course, who do have access to the same information you do. This is something that is known by thousands of people in finance and the military and politics. It’s widely known. It’s a very small proportion of the world’s population, but it’s still very widely known.
W: Absolutely. Yes.
B: And something that we’ve always encouraged, and we say it again here, is that we encourage anyone who has experienced it first-hand or even at second-hand, any aspect of this, to please step forward and know that there’s safety in numbers. Know that the more people who break ranks and have the courage that you have to speak out, the more will be heard, the more will be understood, and the whole thing will be like a gradually rolling snowball. The snowball is rolling. It’s quite small, but it is rolling.
W: Oh, it is. It is. There’ll come a time where names will be named if there’s enough public support, and we will demand answers from those people.
So when enough fruit from the tree of evidence comes off, then these people can be properly challenged, and then we can see a far different story, you know, emerge from the one that people like myself are giving you. It’ll become more real, far more real. We can do that. We can take people to task.
B: Okay. All right. This is very, very important. I want to close by saying: thank you for your courage, and thank you for your spirit.
W: Thank you very much, too, Bill.
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