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Awoke
27th February 2012, 03:55 AM
Hey all, most of us here know that the LRP is a sham, but we have discovered it throughout our years of journeying towards the truth.

Is there a resource or website that sheds light on the lie that is the LRP? I mean something concise that a Blus Pill Noob could read and see that Left Vs Right is merely the illusion of choice.

There is someone I know who needs to read it.

dys
27th February 2012, 09:04 AM
If anyone finds it I'd love to see it. I've had a ton of difficulty trying to convey the concept of the Hegelian dialectic to people. Honestly I think a lot of people on this forum don't understand it, either. There is stuff out there, but my experience is that it is way over the head of the average person.

dys

MNeagle
27th February 2012, 09:37 AM
Here's one Hatha found: http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?53778-RIP-Left-Right-Paradigm&highlight=left-right

Search "left-right" (with the quotes seems to help) for more threads.

madfranks
27th February 2012, 09:54 AM
Now you've got me thinking. Of all the books that I can think of, The Creature From Jekyll Island is all I come up with right now. Obviously the left/right paradigm is not the focus of that book but it helps one understand why nothing changes when the parties switch sides.

MNeagle
27th February 2012, 10:02 AM
http://www.sl-webs.com/custimages/dd395-Vote%20(site).jpg

Golden
27th February 2012, 10:13 AM
For simplification one could use the body as a metaphor. After all it is the vessel, the conduit, the manifestation of creator.

lapis
27th February 2012, 10:48 AM
Here's one Hatha found: http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?53778-RIP-Left-Right-Paradigm&highlight=left-right Thanks for bringing it up.

dys
27th February 2012, 10:59 AM
I have to reference my own thread here. http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?59116-The-truth-about-waking-people-up

I'm not sure if most people even care that dialectics are 'wings of the same bird'. Republican, democrat, left, right, conservative, liberal, capitalist, socialist, etc etc...these are groups that people belong to. If you give people the realization that they no longer belong to these things, you kick them out of their clique- and they will hate you for it.

dys

Awoke
27th February 2012, 11:00 AM
On the bright side, I contacted the person that I thought was falling for the LRP and used the SPP and the attempted NAU as an example of how left and right both work towards the same goal, and at that point the person assured me that they were not falling for the the LRP.

The reason I suspected they were falling for the LRP illusion was because they had sent me this email:




10 Poorest Cities in America and how did it happen

City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
1. Detroit , MI 32.5%
2. Buffalo , NY 29.9%
3. Cincinnati , OH 27.8%
4. Cleveland , OH 27.0%
5. Miami , FL 26.9%
5. St. Louis , MO 26.8%
7. El Paso , TX 26.4%
8. Milwaukee , WI 26.2%
9. Philadelphia , PA 25.1%
10. Newark , NJ 24.2%
U.S. Census Bureau,
2006 American Community Survey, August 2007

What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty rate all have in common?


Detroit, MI
(1st on the poverty rate list)
hasn't elected a Republican mayor
since 1961

Buffalo, NY (2nd)
hasn't elected one since 1954

Cincinnati, OH - (3rd)..
since 1984

Cleveland, OH - (4th)..
since 1989

Miami, FL - (5th)
has never had a Republican mayor

St. Louis, MO - (6th)..
since 1949

El Paso, TX - (7th)
has never had a Republican mayor

Milwaukee , WI - (8th)..
since 1908

Philadelphia, PA - (9th)..
since 1952

Newark, NJ - (10th)...
since 1907.

Einstein once said,
'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again
and expecting different results.'

It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats ....


YET THEY ARE STILL POOR


"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up
by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man
by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage
by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them,
what they could and should do for themselves."
Abraham Lincoln



Typical, usual LRP bullshit to continue feeding into the illusion that people have choice by voting for one or the other parties. The SPP was started by the Liberals (Chretien) and delivered by the Conservatives (Harper). It is exactly as David Dees illustrated in the picture posted above by MNeagle.

Hatha Sunahara
27th February 2012, 11:03 AM
Try this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxDwT55rmIw



Hatha

dys
27th February 2012, 11:04 AM
One thing I find interesting is that often when you try to educate a person on something like this, they claim to understand it even if they have 0 clue what you are talking about. People who are otherwise honest tend to do this...I don't think they even realize what they are doing.

dys

Hatha Sunahara
27th February 2012, 11:25 AM
G Edward Griffin got me to abandon thinking in terms of left/right.

The Left/Right paradigm doesn't explain how power is used. Power accrues to people who control money. The elite control the flow of all money. This makes them 'the upper class'. Everybody else is 'the lower classes'. There is nothing left or right about that. It is top and bottom.

People who think in terms of left/right unconsciously assume that 'the people' control the world with the majority deciding issues in a democratic political system. They ignore the fact that a small group--perhaps .0001% of the population control all the money, and how money is used is what determines what happens in the world--not the will of the majority of the people.

So, a good understanding of how money and power really control the world is the first step in abandoning the left-right way of thinking. Also, to cement this top-bottom way of thinking, just think about how our congress is bought out by lobbyists, and 'special interests' which is a euphemism for 'the money power'. Both the conservatives and liberals are bought out, and vote for the interests of big corporate monopolies and banks--not for the interests of the people. The military is used to promote the interests of the elite--not of the people. How do you explain the behavior of the police? They protect the interests of the elite--not the people. Same thing for the judges.

When you look at how the world really works, the left-right 'paradigm' becomes just an elaborate fairy tale--like the Tooth Fairy, or the Easter Bunny., or Santa Claus.

When you hear the politicians talk about how conservative they are, or how liberal they are, think about who the big contributors to their campaigns are, and then think about how loyal they will be in promoting the interests of 'the people'. The left-right paradigm distracts people by encouraging them to debate meaningless issues. Meanwhile, the elite are free to steal whatever they can.

Here is a link where you can find dozens of Ewe-Tube videos that debunk the Left/Right Paradigm:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=left-right+paradigm&oq=left-right+paradigm&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=1648l5442l0l5754l19l19l0l14l14l0l156l571l2. 3l5l0.

Watch some of these. It doesn't take too many explanations for somebody who is interested in this to get the picture.


Hatha

Hatha Sunahara
27th February 2012, 11:44 AM
Here's how the world really works:

2314


Try to reconcile this with Left/Right thinking.


Hatha

Awoke
27th February 2012, 12:02 PM
It's close, but really the Army guys should be standing behind the NWO pigs, because they call them in when teh pigs can;t "handle" things.