would you sell 100 ounces of silver to drill a well?

[chad]

my current well requires electricity. this is weirding me out. thinking of selling 100 ounces of savings account silver and putting in a well with a manual hand pump. would you do it?

[undgrd]

Can you wait to do this or do you need it done now? If you can wait, can you save enough FRN's before needing to pay for it? If so, no...pay with saved FRN's.

If it needs to be done now and you don't have enough FRN's, then I guess you have to.

Isn't the ground frozen right now?

[DMac]

Probably, yes.

A fully functioning well is a great addition to any home.

[zap]

What about a pump that runs off of solar if you are in a sun-shiny place? How deep is your well? How do they work if your well is 150' deep ? do you got ta stand there and pump for hours? I wouldn't sell silver unless I had to , but a way to get water without electricity is good! Sorry so many questions, wondering for myself.

[chad]

80 feet to water. yeah, would have to wait a few months for the thaw. i have a pond and a big berkey, so i have been procrastinating doing it (my wife's not too cool with drinking filtered pond water though). the other day i realized almost all my food preps require water (dehydrated and freeze dried stuff). i am thinking big piles of metals are worthless if i die because of no water.

[ArgenteumTelum]

Chad,

Investigate the Simple Pump: http://www.simplepump.com/

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[Uncle Salty]

Are there any springs nearby? Spring water is the best!

[ximmy]

zap is right, you should have electrical back up. solar panel & batteries.

[chad]

a couple people have pm'd me. just for the record, my current well is fine, it just requires electricity. i want water if there is an emp or the power grid gets turned off/fails.

[JJ.G0ldD0t]

my current well requires electricity. this is weirding me out. thinking of selling 100 ounces of savings account silver and putting in a well with a manual hand pump. would you do it?


Absolutely. Nothing more reliable.

[zap]

a couple people have pm'd me. just for the record, my current well is fine, it just requires electricity. i want water if there is an emp or the power grid gets turned off/fails.

Generators work, that's how I pump my well. I need to get solar added to it, But a manual pump is a great idea.

[Awoke]

I would rather use Fiat, Chad.


EDIT - Heck, for that matter, I would rather use a credit card than part with silver.

[chad]

I would rather use Fiat, Chad.


EDIT - Heck, for that matter, I would rather use a credit card than part with silver.

never thought of credit card. good idea.

[Awoke]

Hahaha. I don't know if it's a good idea or not, but I know I would rather incur digital fiat debt than part with physical silver any day.

[horseshoe3]

I was going to suggest using the well you have and getting a backup hand pump for it. Looks like the simplepump is a good thing to pursue.

[JDRock]

haaaiiil yes.

[Twisted Titan]

manual is slowest but most reliable...

plus when grid is down there will be more than enough free labor to do the back breaking work.

[chad]

i'm also going to have to buy my eight year old a calico dress and a wooden bucket, so she can down the hill like in little house on the prairie. but, i think i can swing that with fiat.

[Steal]

Are there any springs nearby? Spring water is the best!

are springs easy to contaminate? am looking at the sunny side of a mountain, 60% of it is pretty steep but it has 3 springs on it. Have always read, solid H2O source #1 in preps. Mountain is mostly quartz. Was thinking could go down a bit and set up a ram pump, mechanical pump so no elec/pwr source needed.

[Bigjon]

80 feet to water. yeah, would have to wait a few months for the thaw. i have a pond and a big berkey, so i have been procrastinating doing it (my wife's not too cool with drinking filtered pond water though). the other day i realized almost all my food preps require water (dehydrated and freeze dried stuff). i am thinking big piles of metals are worthless if i die because of no water.

A dirty little secret of the well drilling industry is they always say it is 80, 120 or 180 feet to water when in fact they often hit water at 10, 20 or 30 feet. It wouldn't pay for them to stop at that point, so down they go and up goes your bill.

[horseshoe3]

I was there when my well was drilled. He had to go down to 45' to hit water, but then it came up to 20'. Must be partial artesian. Break through the clay layer, and it comes up.

[chad]

what if there's a big drought? doesn't the water table drop?

[Awoke]

I was there when my well was drilled. He had to go down to 45' to hit water, but then it came up to 20'. Must be partial artesian. Break through the clay layer, and it comes up.

That could be to the pressure on the water too, no? By tapping a hole and exposing it to atmospheric pressure, it may swell up to equalize? Just guessing.

[Steal]

what if there's a big drought? doesn't the water table drop?

my thoughts on springs also, being that they are alot higher than the surounding lay of the land, where people have wells, rivers/streams run. springs are also based off the water table, correct? and they need natural presure to get them to rise to a fissure in the rock?

[BrewTech]

Ditching physical at any time sucks ass (ugh, I know), but if it were for something like a well I would do it, after carefully considering my options. I've never had a well, so I'll let those options come from more knowledgeable folks on this board.

[vacuum]

I'd get a generator and everything necessary to make sure you can reliably turn the generator on and use it when needed. Then start saving money and get the simplepump when you have enough cash.

[Gaillo]

Nope.
I'd personally look into what it would take to retrofit my exising well to hand power on-the-fly, for when the electric pump is no longer functional for whatever reason. No need to drill a new hole when you've already got one...

[gunDriller]

i would say it's worth it.

a functioning well with a decent output (10 gallons per minute) - that's worth $3700 easy.

of course if you wait 6 months you will probably be able to do it for about 70 ounces of silver, maybe 50 ounces.

[zap]

Nope.
I'd personally look into what it would take to retrofit my exising well to hand power on-the-fly, for when the electric pump is no longer functional for whatever reason. No need to drill a new hole when you've already got one...

Did you read on the simple pump? you can attach it to existing with out taking the old pump out.

[Serpo]

Personally I use silver as my own central bank and have no problem selling some when required at certain times .

At other times buy some back, it works OK with me, only thing going on at the moment is that silver may double in price very quickly from here.

[beefsteak]

You call it a dirty little secret, I say, I don't want to drink nor rely upon shallow water such as you are speaking to. Especially in this day and age of radioneuclide contamination of surface water and all surfaces which shed water into the shallow levels to which you refer. Besides, THOSE levels are the first to dry up in periods of severe drought, AND ARE!

80' minimum in my books, Chad. And what are you waiting for? You want the "option" installed and forgotten about by those who are doing the deed, yes?

I've already surveiled the neighbors and set up alternative sources of private well water just in case.

The Sarajevo (Bosnia) collapse in the 1990s did provide a powerful indicatator that water was one of the things the decimated population still relied upon infrastructure to furnish. It's just that they had to haul it, and it was only available certain hours of the day certain days of the week. You weren't in line, tough it, because you weren't getting any from those who were.

Wheeled carts such as you see the bag ladies using and children's wagons were at a premium and highly treasured in Sarajevo (Bosnia) during that time just after the Olympics concluded and their economy collapsed.

[hoarder]

How many horsepower is your well pump? A good used generator seems like an easy solution. My well is 2 HP and I power it with a small diesel generator to fill up a cistern uphill from my house. It gravity feeds back down.

[Tumbleweed]

I don't think I'd want to give up a hundred ounces of silver if I didn't have to. My brother and I bought a well drilling rig like the one in this video for four hundred dollars back a few years ago. we havn't dug a well with it yet but we could if we needed to. It came with several buckets and eighty foot of drill stem.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFjwrCI4-D8

[chad]

I don't think I'd want to give up a hundred ounces of silver if I didn't have to. My brother and I bought a well drilling rig like the one in this video for four hundred dollars back a few years ago. we havn't dug a well with it yet but we could if we needed to. It came with several buckets and eighty foot of drill stem.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFjwrCI4-D8

can you bring that thing up to wisconsin?

[chad]

How many horsepower is your well pump? A good used generator seems like an easy solution. My well is 2 HP and I power it with a small diesel generator to fill up a cistern uphill from my house. It gravity feeds back down.

have to check hp...not sure...

[Uncle Salty]

I would sell a hundred ounces of Silver to drill Mila Kunis for week.

[Tumbleweed]

can you bring that thing up to wisconsin?

Nope I'm to damn busy at the moment. You'll just have to keep drinking out of your water hole for awhile or look around for one of these well drilling rigs. No one uses them much anymore and you could pull it with a ford tractor or a 4whlr.

[k-os]

Nope.
I'd personally look into what it would take to retrofit my exising well to hand power on-the-fly, for when the electric pump is no longer functional for whatever reason. No need to drill a new hole when you've already got one...

That's what I have prepared for. My well is a part of this giant aquifer that Florida floats on, so it's fairly shallow. I am not sure if the depth matters for this discussion, but I bought a hand pump a few years ago, and plan on making it work when the time comes.

[beefsteak]

what if there's a big drought? doesn't the water table drop?
Yes, the water table drops, which is why the deeper the water you're pulling up, the more reliable your water supply DURING the length and severity of a drought.

[osoab]

what if there's a big drought? doesn't the water table drop?


Your biggest sucker of water will be multiple trees surrounding the well. Eliminate some of the bigger ones that are close and your chances of going dry will diminish. In a big drought, you might be fooked any way.

I didn't see your current wells specs, but I am going with an 6 or 8 inch pipe in the ground not one of the old ones that are bricked sides all the way down 60-80'. You could get a sump pump (submersible) and drop it into the well and run it off of solar for a quick fix. Make sure that the pump will slide down the pipe before buying. Something cheaper to think about anyway.