View Full Version : Goodbye, First Amendment: ‘Trespass Bill’ will make protest illegal
Down1
29th February 2012, 05:21 AM
The noose tightens a lot.
Just when you thought the government couldn’t ruin the First Amendment any further: The House of Representatives approved a bill on Monday that outlaws protests in instances where some government officials are nearby, whether or not you even know it.
The US House of Representatives voted 388-to-3 in favor of H.R. 347 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c112:6:./temp/%7Ec1121WG30B::) late Monday, a bill which is being dubbed the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011. In the bill, Congress officially makes it illegal to trespass on the grounds of the White House, which, on the surface, seems not just harmless and necessary, but somewhat shocking that such a rule isn’t already on the books. The wording in the bill, however, extends to allow the government to go after much more than tourists that transverse the wrought iron White House fence.
Under the act, the government is also given the power to bring charges against Americans engaged in political protest anywhere in the country.
Under current law, White House trespassers are prosecuted under a local ordinance, a Washington, DC legislation that can bring misdemeanor charges for anyone trying to get close to the president without authorization. Under H.R. 347, a federal law will formally be applied to such instances, but will also allow the government to bring charges to protesters, demonstrators and activists at political events and other outings across America.
The new legislation allows prosecutors to charge anyone who enters a building without permission or with the intent to disrupt a government function with a federal offense if Secret Service is on the scene, but the law stretches to include not just the president’s palatial Pennsylvania Avenue home. Under the law, any building or grounds where the president is visiting — even temporarily — is covered, as is any building or grounds “restricted in conjunction with an event designated as a special event of national significance."
It’s not just the president who would be spared from protesters, either.
Covered under the bill is any person protected by the Secret Service. Although such protection isn’t extended to just everybody, making it a federal offense to even accidently disrupt an event attended by a person with such status essentially crushes whatever currently remains of the right to assemble and peacefully protest.
Hours after the act passed, presidential candidate Rick Santorum was granted Secret Service protection. For the American protester, this indeed means that glitter-bombing the former Pennsylvania senator is officially a very big no-no, but it doesn’t stop with just him. Santorum’s coverage under the Secret Service began on Tuesday, but fellow GOP hopeful Mitt Romney has already been receiving such security. A campaign aide who asked not to be identified confirmed last week to CBS News that former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has sought Secret Service protection as well. Even former contender Herman Cain received the armed protection treatment when he was still in the running for the Republican Party nod.
In the text of the act, the law is allowed to be used against anyone who knowingly enters or remains in a restricted building or grounds without lawful authority to do so, but those grounds are considered any area where someone — rather it’s President Obama, Senator Santorum or Governor Romney — will be temporarily visiting, whether or not the public is even made aware. Entering such a facility is thus outlawed, as is disrupting the orderly conduct of “official functions,” engaging in disorderly conduct “within such proximity to” the event or acting violent to anyone, anywhere near the premises. Under that verbiage, that means a peaceful protest outside a candidate’s concession speech would be a federal offense, but those occurrences covered as special event of national significance don’t just stop there, either. And neither does the list of covered persons that receive protection.
Outside of the current presidential race, the Secret Service is responsible for guarding an array of politicians, even those from outside America. George W Bush is granted protection until ten years after his administration ended, or 2019, and every living president before him is eligible for life-time, federally funded coverage. Visiting heads of state are extended an offer too, and the events sanctioned as those of national significance — a decision that is left up to the US Department of Homeland Security — extends to more than the obvious. While presidential inaugurations and meeting of foreign dignitaries are awarded the title, nearly three dozen events in all have been considered a National Special Security Event (NSSE) since the term was created under President Clinton. Among past events on the DHS-sanctioned NSSE list are Super Bowl XXXVI, the funerals of Ronald Reagan and Gerald Ford, most State of the Union addresses and the 2008 Democratic and Republican National Conventions.
With Secret Service protection awarded to visiting dignitaries, this also means, for instance, that the federal government could consider a demonstration against any foreign president on American soil as a violation of federal law, as long as it could be considered disruptive to whatever function is occurring.
When thousands of protesters are expected to descend on Chicago this spring for the 2012 G8 and NATO summits, they will also be approaching the grounds of a National Special Security Event. That means disruptive activity, to whichever court has to consider it, will be a federal offense under the act.
http://rt.com/usa/news/348-act-tresspass-buildings-437/
gunDriller
29th February 2012, 06:00 AM
Obama deserves a comic book showing him as he is - one of the world's biggest traitors.
of course Pelosi would be in there too.
Ares
29th February 2012, 07:02 AM
Everyone needs to see this for what it is. They are panicking, these are behaviors of a power base desperate to maintain power. This isn't the action of a power base secure in their "domination."
Cebu_4_2
29th February 2012, 07:07 AM
Exactly, but what can we do to add to their desperation?
Ares
29th February 2012, 08:12 AM
Exactly, but what can we do to add to their desperation?
Keep doing what you are doing, which is outside their control. Keep informing and waking up others that the emperor indeed has no clothes.
mick silver
29th February 2012, 12:26 PM
what are you guys going to do about this ............... .... the hour glass is almost out of sand
gunDriller
29th February 2012, 12:54 PM
what are you guys going to do about this ............... .... the hour glass is almost out of sand
Bigfoot sized slingshot launching Cow Turds at the Congress Building.
With the occasional launch of Southern California Brown Snake.
Book
29th February 2012, 01:25 PM
They are panicking, these are behaviors of a power base desperate to maintain power. This isn't the action of a power base secure in their "domination."
https://farm1.static.flickr.com/185/390569163_ec5f20f4c7.jpg
Those OCCUPY WALL STREET mobs really brought revolution across America.
::)
Santa
29th February 2012, 01:58 PM
It's still going... like an energizer bunny.
"More than a dozen Occupy Wall Street protesters were cuffed during demonstrations in Manhattan Wednesday, cops said.
Eight people were arrested after a group of demonstrators began placing sleeping bags in Zuccotti Park about 12:30 a.m., police said.
All but one protester — Jason Liszkiewicz (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Jason+Liszkiewicz), 36, — were released and issued summonses for disorderly conduct, cops said. Liszkiewicz was arrested on charges of obstructing governmental administration, police said.
Mohamed Olivo (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Mohamed+Olivo), 22, of the Bronx, was collared about 3:40 a.m., after cops caught him on Broadway and Wall St. shouting and causing a public nuisance. He was charged with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest.
Hours later, during what OWS protesters declared as a “Day of Action,” four more people were arrested in midtown, cops said.
Two people were arrested for obstruction of governmental administration and two others — including a 30-year-old man on a bicycle who blocked traffic — were summonsed for disorderly conduct, cops said.
The rally included about 100 protesters marching from a Bank of America branch near Grand Central Station to Bryant Park."
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/dozen-occupy-wall-street-protesters-arrested-demonstrations-article-1.1030772#ixzz1noJ90qZq
Libertytree
29th February 2012, 03:03 PM
FUCK those COCKHOLSTERS!! If...when.... the day comes I hope they're prepared for the fall out.
EE_
29th February 2012, 03:15 PM
No one feels they can do anything about it, so why bother worrying.
It's going to have to get a whole lot worse before anyone really gives a shit.
Go Romney!
dys
29th February 2012, 04:02 PM
383-3...did I read that right?
WOW.
dys
gunDriller
29th February 2012, 05:21 PM
people will find other ways to rebel.
the Talmud worshippers and their servants are trying to make the entire world into a gated community.
a gilded jail of their own construction.
iOWNme
1st March 2012, 04:55 AM
Rights are not taken away by some arbitrary bureaucratic agency of Government. They are not delineated by the almighty STATE. They are not restricted by some all powerful entity high above you.
They were given to man BEFORE GOVERNMENT was even created. They come naturally from our Creator, and they cannot be altered, amended, increased or decreased. They are to be used by man to ensure that this world remains a free and open place to live by all of man.
Sparky
11th May 2012, 10:23 PM
I missed this one the first time through, so I'm giving it a bump. This will become more relevant now that we are entering "protest" season.
This anti-constitutional bill was signed by the president in early March. Here's a short clip featuring Judge Napolitano explaining how it curtails liberty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7SGWH3kirzg#!
Gaillo
11th May 2012, 11:24 PM
https://farm1.static.flickr.com/185/390569163_ec5f20f4c7.jpg
Those OCCUPY WALL STREET mobs really brought revolution across America.
::)
WHY anybody thanks you, discusses your posts, or otherwise gives you the fucking time of day on this forum is a CONSTANT source of amazement and confusion to me.
You might have a finely developed and honed sense of "jew-dar", but you know what? So do most jews. You seem to be helping the opposition more often than opposing them... you worship big government, force and authority, and miss NO opportunity to ridicule and marginalize those who are taking a stand against TPTB - in whatever small way they're able to. Your continued participation and cheerleading over at GovIsMommy2.com (http://www.goldismoney2.com/forum.php) tells everyone here who is paying the LEAST bit of attention pretty much everything they need to know about you. Just be glad this forum doesn't belong to me... you would have been OUT of here long ago!
Oh... here are some rolleyes for you, I don't have time to find a clever photo. ::)
Jerk.
vacuum
12th May 2012, 12:32 AM
Jerk.
My view is that the reason Jews are able to do what they do, and achieve the amazing things they do, is because they are able to see reality a little more objectively than most other groups.
For example, some groups, which I won't name, aren't able to see the relationship between hard work and ethical conduct with a higher quality of life and more freedom. Instead becoming educated and/or getting a steady income and saving money, they would rather drink and sit around. If they need something they just steal it.
Other "more advanced" groups have accepted the observation that working hard ethically will improve their lives and those around them. These groups are more focused on their family and country, instead of mostly food and sex as was the case for the previous group. However this group doesn't seem to be able to understand how money and debt work. They'd rather have stuff now and have debt than to wait. The other fatal flaw they have is that they have wishful religious thinking. They think God will somehow do things for them in a material way, if only they surrender to him. They don't understand that they have to do it themselves, with their own two hands. Surrendering and indebtedness, not seeing it for what it really is, is their flaw.
The Jews however are able to see this cold reality, and can see the truth about debt and magic divine intervention. Because of this they feel that everyone else should serve them, and it appears they primarily want control.
So Gaillo, the point here is that many times pointing out some observation about reality is definitely being a jerk. The good intentions and feelings we ALL like to surround ourselves with are generally just buffers against reality. These buffers are needed because each of us has our own internal inconsistencies, and if we were subject to cold reality we'd have to face all of them immediately...which would cause madness. This is just the human condition.
What makes all this worse is that there is no ideology or recipe we can follow to always get the right answer. For example, being against statism, against religion, for caplitalism, etc, etc...those are academic exercises. In order to move from one level to the next of the three groups I mentioned above, it requires growth. Following a recipe is like being asleep. Transcending levels is a conscious effort. You have to take the impacts of things you observe, especially the 'jerks' and allow it to deeply disturb you...become so shaken by it that you gradually change inside.
Gaillo
12th May 2012, 12:51 AM
vacuum,
While I definitely understand what you are saying and where you're coming from, Book does not fit in that category - and most of us know it. He might have MAGNES fooled... not an easy feat... but for most who have been here for any length of time, he's a transparent shill for authority, statist coercion, and individual submission. It's more than just his openly proclaimed "statism" - or my personal choice to stand against it... the guy goes out of his way to ridicule those who want to live free and have some measure of self determination.
I'll be blunt: Book pisses a LOT of people off around here, and it's not because he's interested in our "growth" or any well-intentioned "wake up" effort on his part. I'm tired of it... the groups of people he attacks, ridicules, and makes fun of with his cutesy pictures are for the most part GOOD PEOPLE who, however misguided their understanding of our world and their response to it, do NOT deserve the crap he dishes out. I know a few people who were members of the tea party, before it became obvious to most thinking people that it was a controlled opposition movement co-opted by the neo-cons... all of whom had their hearts in the right place... all of whom were trying to make a real difference sometimes at great cost and risk to their way of life.
They don't deserve the reality-twisting "Book treatment" from a "man" who's probably never stood up for anything in his life that might draw criticism from the masses... a "man" who's openly proclaimed his intention to watch the revolution on his 42" flat panel from his Idaho condo.
Whatever... for me, the gloves are off. I've disliked Book from the days of GIM1, he knows it, I know he knows it, and quite frankly I don't give a damn what he or his supporters think justifies his authoritarian BS. ::)
gunDriller
12th May 2012, 05:11 AM
My view is that the reason Jews are able to do what they do, and achieve the amazing things they do, is because they are able to see reality a little more objectively than most other groups.
i think it has a lot to do with the fact that Jews are not constrained by morals, in terms of the way they are raised. while at the same time having the rest of the Western world tied down by Christian morals.
so they see a bunch of "do gooder morality freaks", and (metaphorically speaking) figure out, "how can i manipulate them ? how can i profit from this ?"
in other words, Jews are basically raised to be Sociopathic.
Twisted Titan
12th May 2012, 06:07 AM
Excellent points gun....
I usally sum it up as follows
You will NEVER best a person who does not have to play by any rules yet....you are bound by scores of them
palani
12th May 2012, 06:18 AM
You will NEVER best a person who does not have to play by any rules yet....you are bound by scores of them
I should point out that acts of legislature bind the legislature. The U.S. constitution binds those who take an oath to protect and defend it. Common law is not bound or replaced by statute law unless you happen to get a paycheck with a large eagle on the face.
As I understand this act congress does not want to see anybody who draws a U.S. government paycheck standing up protesting the U.S. government. If I were the CEO of a fortune 500 company I believe I would discourage the janitors union from protesting company policies that provide them with their source of income.
gunDriller
12th May 2012, 06:49 AM
You will NEVER best a person who does not have to play by any rules yet....you are bound by scores of them
that sums up the Talmud.
now that we know who we are dealing with, i think it is important to teach young people about Crime in the World, street crime (chimp-outs) & Control Fraud (Jew Banksters, Hollywood, Talmudic "Doctors", and even Jewish Community Garden organizers), and how to avoid it (sociopathic behavior of Jews).
street crime is easy to avoid IF you don't live in Compton (for example).
Jew Crime & double-dealing is harder to avoid. a young American Gentile who is raised with Christian values & then sent out into the world is basically a sitting duck when they get to college. they have NO IDEA of the evil surrounding them, and it seems exciting at first.
Sparky
12th May 2012, 08:23 AM
...
As I understand this act congress does not want to see anybody who draws a U.S. government paycheck standing up protesting the U.S. government.
...
Why do you think this is targeting government employees? This bill essentially provides an option to prevent, or end, any protest that could reach the ears of those against whom it is intended. It protects the government from any of the nasty fallout that can accompany protest. They've seen the Occupy crowds. They're afraid of them. And they should be.
Sparky
12th May 2012, 08:42 AM
This thread has taken an odd turn. I don't see what's so offensive about Book's post, even though I disagree with its premise. It's seems a legitimate commentary. Gaillo, think about this statement of yours: "Just be glad this forum doesn't belong to me... you would have been OUT of here long ago!" Isn't this the type of suppression that we despise? Isn't this the attitude of the moderators that broke up GIM?
Book
12th May 2012, 08:45 AM
Just be glad this forum doesn't belong to me... you would have been OUT of here long ago!
Just be glad we can't vote for who the Mods are here.
:)
palani
12th May 2012, 08:45 AM
Why do you think this is targeting government employees?
Because they are the only ones subject to acts of congress.
A trend has developed that anything passed by congress is viewed to apply to everyone. This is not the case. There are conditions in which any act applies. These are private acts rather than public acts. The U.S. operates on public policy rather than public law. They appear to have lost the ability to pass public law with the bankruptcy in 1933. Public policy is still private (the ceo of the corporation tells his employees how he expects them to act under certain conditions).
Book
12th May 2012, 08:46 AM
This thread has taken an odd turn. I don't see what's so offensive about Book's post, even though I disagree with its premise. It's seems a legitimate commentary. Gaillo, think about this statement of yours: "Just be glad this forum doesn't belong to me... you would have been OUT of here long ago!" Isn't this the type of suppression that we despise? Isn't this the attitude of the moderators that broke up GIM?
Thank you Sparky for your sagacious observations.
:)
Sparky
12th May 2012, 08:49 AM
And furthermore, I don't see why this thread has become centered so much around Jews. You could make 75% of all threads about Jews if you wanted to. And sometimes it seems that you have. It's like an omnipresent hijacking of threads.
I know, your sentiment is that Jews are really at the heart of all these things, so it's totally relevant. Fine, then go start a thread called "Jews Are Really At the Heart of All These Things", so that you can keep a running train of thought on the subject, rather than chopping up so many other threads. I'm not saying that your observations don't contain validity, it's just that they become thread-consuming.
Now, it wouldn't have been so bad if someone had simply commented that this is merely another example of Jew-control. But such elaborate responses are subject-changers, and should really be the start of another thread, as witnessed by the lengthy responses. That's all I'm sayin'.
dys
12th May 2012, 01:38 PM
Everyone needs to see this for what it is. They are panicking, these are behaviors of a power base desperate to maintain power. This isn't the action of a power base secure in their "domination."
They are not panicking. They are methodically and inexorably carrying out their plan of one world government.
dys
D sciple
12th May 2012, 02:26 PM
Look at the bottom right hand corner of this screenshot, or at 4 min mark onward, David's harp; repping the throne of David. I think you all know what laws are valid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efdQbYesKiw&feature=relmfu
Book
12th May 2012, 02:57 PM
Whatever... for me, the gloves are off. I've disliked Book from the days of GIM1, he knows it, I know he knows it, and quite frankly I don't give a damn what he or his supporters think...
http://www.wikidforum.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/moderator_1.jpg
:) You appear to be unclear on your appointed function here Gaillo
Gaillo
12th May 2012, 03:11 PM
http://www.wikidforum.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/moderator_1.jpg
:) You appear to be unclear on your appointed function here Gaillo
What's YOUR appointed function here? Who do you work for and report to? ???
Libertytree
12th May 2012, 03:45 PM
Just be glad we can't vote for who the Mods are here.
:)
And you oughta be glad that the board couldn't vote your happy ass back to Jim2 permanently.
Tumbleweed
12th May 2012, 04:02 PM
Books alright and he's been around a long time. He jerks peoples chains and challenges their thinking. That tends to piss some people off. Nothing wrong with that. I say just leave Book alone and let him do what he wants. He's smart and he's damn good intertainment and always has been. I wouldn't like this forum as well as I do if he wan't here.
Gaillo
12th May 2012, 04:38 PM
Books alright and he's been around a long time. He jerks peoples chains and challenges their thinking. That tends to piss some people off. Nothing wrong with that. I say just leave Book alone and let him do what he wants. He's smart and he's damn good intertainment and always has been. I wouldn't like this forum as well as I do if he wan't here.
Hey... not my forum. As long as he doesn't break the forum rules, I'll let him be...
Being "sardonic" isn't against the rules, though being a self-righteous authoritarian poof probably should be! ::)
P.S. Nice new .sig line, Book! Spread the word... ;)
osoab
12th May 2012, 05:59 PM
The link for the bill didn't work in the OP.
I think this is it.
HR 347 EAS (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c112:1:./temp/%7Ec1125AH9HK::)
In the Senate of the United States,
February 6, 2012.
Resolved, That the bill from the House of Representatives (H.R. 347 ) entitled `An Act to correct and simplify the drafting of section 1752 (relating to restricted buildings or grounds) of title 18, United States Code.', do pass with the following
AMENDMENT:
Strike out all after the enacting clause and insert:
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the `Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011'.
SEC. 2. RESTRICTED BUILDING OR GROUNDS.
Section 1752 of title 18, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:
`Sec. 1752. Restricted building or grounds
`(a) Whoever--
`(1) knowingly enters or remains in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority to do so;
`(2) knowingly, and with intent to impede or disrupt the orderly conduct of Government business or official functions, engages in disorderly or disruptive conduct in, or within such proximity to, any restricted building or grounds when, or so that, such conduct, in fact, impedes or disrupts the orderly conduct of Government business or official functions;
`(3) knowingly, and with the intent to impede or disrupt the orderly conduct of Government business or official functions, obstructs or impedes ingress or egress to or from any restricted building or grounds; or
`(4) knowingly engages in any act of physical violence against any person or property in any restricted building or grounds;
or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be punished as provided in subsection (b).
`(b) The punishment for a violation of subsection (a) is--
`(1) a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than 10 years, or both, if--
`(A) the person, during and in relation to the offense, uses or carries a deadly or dangerous weapon or firearm; or
`(B) the offense results in significant bodily injury as defined by section 2118(e)(3); and
`(2) a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than one year, or both, in any other case.
`(c) In this section--
`(1) the term `restricted buildings or grounds' means any posted, cordoned off, or otherwise restricted area--
`(A) of the White House or its grounds, or the Vice President's official residence or its grounds;
`(B) of a building or grounds where the President or other person protected by the Secret Service is or will be temporarily visiting; or
`(C) of a building or grounds so restricted in conjunction with an event designated as a special event of national significance; and
`(2) the term `other person protected by the Secret Service' means any person whom the United States Secret Service is authorized to protect under section 3056 of this title or by Presidential memorandum, when such person has not declined such protection.'.
Attest:
Secretary.
112th CONGRESS 2d Session H.R. 347
AMENDMENT
Here's the page for the roll call vote. Damned hard to get to the page imho.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2012/roll073.xml
The ones that didn't vote.
---- NAYS 3 ---
Amash
Broun (GA)
Ellison
RP didn't vote.
Libertytree
12th May 2012, 06:48 PM
Hey... not my forum. As long as he doesn't break the forum rules, I'll let him be...
Being "sardonic" isn't against the rules, though being a self-righteous authoritarian poof probably should be! ::)
P.S. Nice new .sig line, Book! Spread the word... ;)
I reckon "sardonic" is the new PC version of "shit stirrer"? He kicks all the ant hills, then sits back and gets his jollies, all the while stirring a lil more and playing and manipulating people.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.0 Copyright © 2025 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.