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Serpo
13th March 2012, 03:14 PM
Solar panel made with ion cannon is cheap enough to challenge fossil fuels



By Sebastian Anthony (http://www.extremetech.com/author/santhony) on March 13, 2012 at 7:32 am



http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/hyperion-particle-accelerator1-640x353.jpg






Twin Creeks, a solar power startup that emerged from hiding today, has developed a way of creating photovoltaic cells that are half the price of today’s cheapest cells, and thus within reach of challenging the fossil fuel hegemony. The best bit: Twin Creeks’ photovoltaic cells are created using a hydrogen ion particle accelerator.
As it stands, almost every solar panel (http://www.extremetech.com/tag/solar-power) is made by slicing a 200-micrometer-thick (0.2mm) wafer from a block of crystalline silicon. You then add some electrodes, cover it in protective glass, and leave it in a sunny area to generate electricity through the photovoltaic effect (when photons hit the silicon, it excites the electrons and generates a charge). There are two problems with this approach: Much in the same way that sawdust is produced when you slice wood, almost half of the silicon block is wasted when it’s cut into 200-micrometer slices; and second, the panels would still function just as well if they were thinner than 200 micrometers, but silicon is brittle and prone to cracking if it’s too thin.
http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/twin-creeks-hyperion-wafer-ii-flexible-200x300.jpg (http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/twin-creeks-hyperion-wafer-ii-flexible.jpg)This is where Twin Creeks’ ion cannon, dubbed Hyperion, comes into play. If you look at the picture above, 3-millimeter-thick silicon wafers are placed around the outside edge of the big, spoked wheel. A particle accelerator bombards these wafers with hydrogen ions, and with exacting control of the voltage of the accelerator, the hydrogen ions accumulate precisely 20 micrometers from the surface of each wafer. A robotic arm then transports the wafers to a furnace where the ions expand into hydrogen gas, which cause the 20-micrometer-thick layer to shear off. A metal backing is applied to make it less fragile (and highly flexible, as you see on the right), and the remaining silicon wafer is taken back to the particle accelerator for another dose of ions. At a tenth of the thickness and with considerably less wastage, it’s easy to see how Twin Creeks can halve the cost of solar cells.
According to Technology Review (http://www.technologyreview.com/energy/39887/), ion beams have been considered before, but particle accelerators were simply too expensive to be commercially viable. This is the flip side of Twin Creeks’ innovation: It had to make its own particle accelerator which is “10 times more powerful” (100mA at 1 MeV) than anything on the market today.
When all’s said and done, if you buy Twin Creeks’ equipment, it is promising a cost of around 40 cents per watt, about half the cost of panels currently coming out of China (where the vast majority of solar panels are made). At that price, solar power begins to encroach on standard, mostly-hydrocarbon-derived grid power — but, of course, we still need to create batteries that can store solar power over night. Maybe Stanford has the answer to that problem, though, with its everlasting nanobattery (http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/106539-stanford-creates-everlasting-nanoparticle-battery-electrode-free-water-based-electrolyte) — and then there’s Nortwestern University’s graphene-doped lithium-ion batteries (http://www.extremetech.com/computing/105343-graphene-improves-lithium-ion-battery-capacity-and-recharge-rate-by-10x), and, perhaps most realistically, electric cars like the Nissan Leaf that can double up as a glorified house battery (http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/92314-nissan-leaf-can-power-your-house-for-a-day-or-two).
Read more at Twin Creeks (http://www.twincreekstechnologies.com/)


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(http://www.twincreekstechnologies.com/)

LuckyStrike
13th March 2012, 05:38 PM
I remember a least 5 years ago that there was some company who had made solar panels for cheaper per watt than coal, I remember the bloombox and all of it's promise.

So I will get excited about this technology when I can buy it, until then they may as well talk about magic dust that costs a nickel and produces more power than a million nuclear power plants.

FreeEnergy
13th March 2012, 05:51 PM
LuckyStrike is right.

One company was Australian, it had a ball-shape solar panes that also concentrated solar rays with sort of a mirror. whatever happened to it, nobody knows

There's a couple built in CA, this is Solar 2:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/Solar_two.jpg
which are basically concave reflector surfaces concentrating solar power into a tower. way, way cheaper than everything else.

The other similar solution is solar reflectors concentrating power onto a Stirling engine:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/EuroDishSBP_front.jpg/320px-EuroDishSBP_front.jpg


This is a Nellis AFB power plant in CA
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Nellis_AFB_Solar_panels.jpg/320px-Nellis_AFB_Solar_panels.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_plants_in_the_Mojave_Desert

Photovoltaic solar is NOT cheap, mostly it is .gov and military wasting our tax dollars

ximmy
13th March 2012, 05:56 PM
Wind farms in Pacific Northwest paid to not produce

Wind farms in the Pacific Northwest -- built with government subsidies and maintained with tax credits for every megawatt produced -- are now getting paid to shut down as the federal agency charged with managing the region's electricity grid says there's an oversupply of renewable power at certain times of the year.

Now, Bonneville is offering to compensate wind companies for half their lost revenue. The bill could reach up to $50 million a year.

The extra payout means energy users will eventually have to pay more.

http://plainswindeis.anl.gov/images/photos/windfarm_field_15180.jpg


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/07/wind-power-companies-paid-to-not-produce/#ixzz1p33GDBml

FreeEnergy
13th March 2012, 06:03 PM
priceless, isn't it.

they took every dollar you owned, came up with mega projects that you'd approve, made money, and you do whatever you want with it. S-C-A-M.

solar energy scam was big about 20-30 years ago, I wasn't here but so tell several people I know. They already know how to make money on it and leave YOU with a bill.

gunDriller
13th March 2012, 06:40 PM
priceless, isn't it.

they took every dollar you owned, came up with mega projects that you'd approve, made money, and you do whatever you want with it. S-C-A-M.

solar energy scam was big about 20-30 years ago, I wasn't here but so tell several people I know. They already know how to make money on it and leave YOU with a bill.

that doesn't mean the technology is a scam.

there are many communities where 1/2 or more of the citizens have said "hasta la vista" to electric utilities and are using solar photovoltaics along with complementary technologies (passive solar for heating, batteries for storage, good old fashioned firewood) to live independent of the PG&E's of the world.


electric utilities and the technology-centered culture built to need what they produce (electric can openers ? electric knives ? electric hedge trimmers ) - another form of scam.

Glass
13th March 2012, 09:09 PM
LuckyStrike is right.

One company was Australian, it had a ball-shape solar panes that also concentrated solar rays with sort of a mirror. whatever happened to it, nobody knows


That company is still around it was called the Solar Ball. The guy who invented it suddenly found that no one would supply him with the spun metal he needed to make the balls. Seemed that the price went up a couple hundred percent making it unviable.

Iniitally I looked at it and wondered how he could have not checked the cost of manufacture for his design. Since then I have learned what's what.

He makes a Cube these days. Not as efficient but he can source materials. You cannot buy for personal use. He only sells commercial, however there was some plan to build a big installation of a couple hundred or thousand solar cubes and sell people the cubes individually like a share scheme. Investors would be given the unique number of their cube.

Sounds a bit like a gold repository......


I remember a least 5 years ago that there was some company who had made solar panels for cheaper per watt than coal, I remember the bloombox and all of it's promise.

So I will get excited about this technology when I can buy it, until then they may as well talk about magic dust that costs a nickel and produces more power than a million nuclear power plants.

Yes this happens. I read/heard somewhere that US Patent or Approval laws dealing with Solar panels require that those panels be no more than 20% efficient. Any that are more than this do not get patents. There are solar technologies that are 80% efficient, apparently anyways.

This is one way how the patent system stiffles innovation instead of assisting it. It is used to shut down many technologies that would benefit humanity.