Ron Paul’s Devious Plan to Steal the Presidency ZIO-CONS are mad LOL

[Ares]

Up until yesterday, I really hadn’t taken the Ron Paul campaign very seriously. Most non-Paul voters probably felt like I did, and laughed him off as that “kooky Uncle” who didn’t have a chance in hell to win the Republican nomination for President.

Well, I’ve changed my mind. Big time.

Yesterday I attended the Republican organizational convention for my Senate district here in Minnesota, and what I witnessed was an organized take-over of our nomination process by Ron Paul cultists. They came to this convention with the sole intent to take over as many of the delegate seats as they could, and sadly, they succeeded.

When I arrived at the convention and took my place with my fellow precinct delegates, I quickly noticed that something was awry. As soon as the man leading the convention(the Convention Chair) began to ask if there were any motions to bring to the floor, several Paulbots lept to their feet to make motions asking to “suspend” the rules so that people who were in attendance could add their names to the delegate nominations. Before the convention, delegates had been contacted to see if we were interested in running for the State Delegate positions, and we were given plenty of time to put our names in the hat to run for these positions.

The Paulbots, who did NOT submit their names prior to the convention, were now demanding that they should added to the list of nominees that very day. This is normally outside of the rules, but the Paulbots(there were at least 50 of them spread throughout the auditorium) through a suspension of the rules, demanded that they be added to the list of nominees. It was difficult to override their votes, as they had descended en masse to this event, and the unsuspecting non-Paul delegates were confused as to what was going on!

After some manipulative moves on the floor, and by using Roberts Rules of order AGAINST the Convention Chair, they were able to add all of their names to the delegate nominations.

I’ve never seen such unmitigated rudeness at a convention before. The Paulbots would leap to their feet screaming “Point of order!” every time they thought that the chair was being dismissive of them.

The entire process was chaotic and psychotic, and the non-Paul delegates were stunned. They didn’t understand what was happening, and I tried to explain to an elderly woman from my precinct that this entire coup was PLANNED, and that the Paulbots had every intention of flooding the State delegates with Paul supporters.

In an effort to combat this craziness, I threw my own name into the ring for State Delegate, using the same rules that the Paulbots had gotten “suspended”. The way I figured it, if I could get on the State delegate list, I would take away at least ONE Paulbot.

I don’t think our convention was an isolated incident. If you read this article from the The Daily Caller you’ll see that this is happening Nationwide.

Luap Nor has got a plan, folks. If the Republican nomination goes to a brokered convention, the Ron Paul cultists plan to flood the nominating floor with Paul delegates. This is their only way to win the Presidential nomination, and they are dead serious in their intent to steal the Presidency, whether you like it or not.

I even asked one of the Paul supporters( a neighbor of mine that I happen to like a lot) who he would vote for (as a delegate) if the nomination went to someone like Romney. He told me straight up that he would NOT vote for the nominee, no matter who it was. He also told me that if they(the Paulbots) didn’t win enough delegates to win, then Ron Paul would run as third party.

So the next time you hear Ron Paul tell the media that he has no intention of running third party, you need to be aware that he is lying.

This convention dragged on for 8 hours yesterday, because the Paulbots slowed down the procedure with motions, amendments and screams of “point of order!” They have every intention of voting as many Ron Paul supporters into delegate positions as they can, and I’m guessing that they are doing this across the country. These people are very well organized, and we should no longer ignore them as the crazy cultists they appear to be, because the fact is, they mean business.

Luap Nor will do anything to win the Presidency, even if it means strong-arming conventions to do so. He’s not some “kooky Uncle” that I once joked about.

In my opinion, he’s dangerous.


http://hillbuzz.org/ron-pauls-devious-plan-to-steal-the-presidency-63749

[mamboni]

According to the author, if Ron Paul supporters are enthusiastic and determined, they are kooky and dangerous. But Romney supporters are much safer and mainstream: they want to win by literally stealing votes.

Fuck this anti-Paul troll! At least Paul's campaign involves the will of people. In the case of Romney and Obama, it involves super rich oligarchs and thieves and liars. I'll stick with "kooky" Ron Paul thank you.

[Bigjon]

This bozo doesn't understand Minnesota Republican party rules, at the county convention it is standard procedure to put your name up for nomination to go to the district convention. If somebody tried to stop that process, it is they who are out of order, and that is what it sounds like the local chair was trying to do.

http://www.mngop.com/inner.asp?z=13

The only proviso for halting the selection of delegates is if a time limit is set in the announced "call for convention" where they set the time and place for the convention. It looks like that is unusual to me, from reading the respective State and Congressional District constitutions.

Members are chosen at large, meaning anyone can sign up, but only delegates and seated alternates get to choose who is elected.

SECTION 5. ELECTION OF DELEGATES AND ALTERNATES TO STATE AND
DISTRICT CONVENTIONS
Delegates and Alternates to District and State Conventions shall be elected at the County
Convention in even numbered years. Delegates and Alternates to the State Convention
shall be elected first followed by an election of Delegates and Alternates to the District
Convention. A Delegate or Alternate to the State Convention may also be elected a
Delegate or Alternate to the District Convention. The Delegates and Alternates shall be
elected at-large.

[General of Darkness]

This whole naming calling shit is so fucking jewish. Paulbots? This REPUBLIC was founded on the CONSTITUTION, and this REPUBLIC is DYING before our eyes because these greedy son's of bitches don't LIKE IT. So what do they do.
“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”


They think that by laughing at us and name calling, i.e. Paulbots that the kwans in this country will see us as robots when in fact they kwans are the robots. Controlled by faith, Israel and a whole other pack of lies. I say fuck them.

[Ares]

According to the author, if Ron Paul supporters are enthusiastic and determined, they are kooky and dangerous. But Romney supporters are much safer and mainstream: they want to win by literally stealing votes.

Fuck this anti-Paul troll! At least Paul's campaign involves the will of people. In the case of Romney and Obama, it involves super rich oligarchs and thieves and liars. I'll stick with "kooky" Ron Paul thank you.

Yep same here. I was reading through the rest of this blog. This idiot was throwing around "Isolationist" Anti-semite the same programed brainwashing garbage the Zio-media was throwing out against Paul last year.

Just another uninformed mental midget trying to play a game he THOUGHT he knew the rules too. I hope the RNC is a brokered convention and Ron Paul has so many delegates there that he get's the nomination. Can give the middle finger to the popular vote who lets face it, votes on 30 second sound bites anyway. Then gives the middle finger to Barry Soetoro and the oligarchy who runs this country.

[monty]

This bozo doesn't understand Minnesota Republican party rules, at the county convention it is standard procedure to put your name up for nomination to go to the district convention. If somebody tried to stop that process, it is they who are out of order, and that is what it sounds like the local chair was trying to do.

That is exactly what happened (the state chair tried to stop the process) in Nevada during the 2008 convention. Dr. Paul's supporters have been studying "Robert's Rules of order and having strategy meetings to combat these underhanded tactics. An example of the success of this strategy is the recent win in Clark County Nevada, the most populous county in the state.

[mamboni]

Yep same here. I was reading through the rest of this blog. This idiot was throwing around "Isolationist" Anti-semite the same programed brainwashing garbage the Zio-media was throwing out against Paul last year.

Just another uninformed mental midget trying to play a game he THOUGHT he knew the rules too. I hope the RNC is a brokered convention and Ron Paul has so many delegates there that he get's the nomination. Can give the middle finger to the popular vote who lets face it, votes on 30 second sound bites anyway. Then gives the middle finger to Barry Soetoro and the oligarchy who runs this country.

Maybe Ron Paul is winning the popular vote. If he can control a large enough block of delegates to force a brokered convention, maybe it will electrify the people who say cannot win but deep down inside know he is the right man at the right time. Suddenly they will see that Ron Paul can win. One thing is for sure: Ron Paul will never compromise on principles. He is going to force the republicans to put up or shut up at the convention.

[revolution]

So the next time you hear Ron Paul tell the media that he has no intention of running third party, you need to be aware that he is lying.

I don't know if you wrote this or if you are just posting something someone else wrote but I'm just gonna respond:

Sorry for picking out just one part of your post to respond to but this part kinda bothers me (more than the rest); you say he was lying to his supporters as if it was a devious. Uh, no actually he wasn't lying, because his intention was to win the nomination running as a Republican. If he had been successful doing this, then this stuff about him lying wouldn't and couldn't have even been brought up in this conversation. He did however say he wouldn't rule out the option of a 3rd party run, he basically said anything is possible and made no absolute promises.

If he ends up running 3rd party as a backup plan, then that doesn't mean he lied. If anything he is using an intelligent strategy, and that's what you are supposed to do.

[Ares]

I don't know if you wrote this or if you are just posting something someone else wrote but I'm just gonna respond:

Nope not me, just posted it from some blog I stumbled onto. I'm a Ron Paul supporter myself.

[revolution]

Okay I'm new here so I don't know who anyone is so excuse me.. lol.. but after I started typing my reply I suddenly realized this was just copy pasted :)

Well whoever wrote that is obviously just trying to pump out some anti-paul propaganda.

[Ares]

Okay I'm new here so I don't know who anyone is so excuse me.. lol.. but after I started typing my reply I suddenly realized this was just copy pasted :)

No worries, welcome aboard. :)

[midnight rambler]

they are dead serious in their intent to steal the Presidency, whether you like it or not.


Oh the fucking irony!

[Libertytree]

Monty is 100% correct, one of our failings last time was not understanding Roberts Rules of Order and it bit us in the ass, not this time though.

As far as the OP goes....well I think he's bought his first clue! He's right! RP folks are taking the GOP hostage and if they don't see it our way we'll let them go and go our own way...3rd party after the convention and all the hell raising that will occur. Marketing 101. These scum bags know they're treadin' on a thin sheet right now and they're scared, guess what? they have every reason to be.

[messianicdruid]

RP folks are taking the GOP hostage and if they don't see it our way we'll let them go and go our own way...

They will see it our way when this economy collapses { now within weeks }. Only RP will be able to explain what happened with any degree of accuracy, and WE the People will be "all ears"!

[mamboni]

Actually, I do believe that Ron Paul is winning the popular vote and the fixing has been blatant. His crowds are routinely 5 and 10 times the size of those of Romney and Santgorum. Folks, the fix is in. But at the convention, when the shot is heard around the world that Ron Paul won the first delegate tally, it is going to be a huge game changer. Because at that moment, the American people are going to realize that something is very very wrong and they have be robbed. It will be impossible for the MSM to sieze the high ground as they try to delegitimize the delegate victory by harping on the popular vote tally. But, they can't push it too hard or people will ask for an investigation into the vote counting process. And they do not want that can of worms opened!

[Book]

So the next time you hear Ron Paul tell the media that he has no intention of running third party, you need to be aware that he is lying.



Will guarantee Obama another four years.

O0

[Bigjon]

Will guarantee Obama another four years.

O0

If Ron Paul doesn't run for president, do you think it matters?

[Awoke]

"Paulbots", "Cultists", "Craziness", "Kooky", "Dangerous"

Hmm. I immediately assumed this author was a BLT, because he has mastered the "cry out as they strike you" technique. So I looked into it a little.

http://hillbuzz.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/KevinDuJan-1.png?cda6c1

Author: Kevin Dujan

http://hillbuzz.org/contact-us-faq/about-kevin-dujan




Kevin’s Catholic upbringing and education–surrounded by take-no-prisoners “Ninja Nuns”



Educated by nuns?




He’s a conservative, Christian gay man residing in the rainbow-tinted neighborhood of Chicago known as “Boystown,”






For his efforts, Kevin has been called “the gay male Ann Coulter” (which he plans on having stitched onto a pillow at some point)



Pfft.

[Libertytree]

Anything except Ron Paul running against Obama assures the outcome for Obama. If it's because we vote another 3rd party choice, not at all or even for Obama it's the same result.

Now, look at it like this, RP while still being marginalized is still somewhat on the national stage, if he were running 3rd party right now he would absolutely be getting zero attention. Add to the fact that he and we all can see and know that he's been cheated, blacked out and smeared by the GOP and the MSM, if you think we're pissed I would bet that after 30 yrs he's really pissed and pay back is hell. Of course he isn't gonna say it now, why would he?

I ran across this Josh Tolley audio clip and it outlines better what I've been thinking.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU2AvSwzuok&feature=player_embedded

[mamboni]

"Paulbots", "Cultists", "Craziness", "Kooky", "Dangerous"

Hmm. I immediately assumed this author was a BLT, because he has mastered the "cry out as they strike you" technique. So I looked into it a little.

http://hillbuzz.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/KevinDuJan-1.png?cda6c1

Author: Kevin Dujan

http://hillbuzz.org/contact-us-faq/about-kevin-dujan




Educated by nuns?







Pfft.

Conservative Christian and Gay? Right! LOL And if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

[gunDriller]

According to the author, if Ron Paul supporters are enthusiastic and determined, they are kooky and dangerous. But Romney supporters are much safer and mainstream: they want to win by literally stealing votes.

Fuck this anti-Paul troll! At least Paul's campaign involves the will of people. In the case of Romney and Obama, it involves super rich oligarchs and thieves and liars. I'll stick with "kooky" Ron Paul thank you.

sh.t, if Ron Paul is playing Hardball - that's good news.

hope his staffers throws in some hockey moves too.

they'll need them to compensate for media-saturationg-coverage of SuperSputum and his compadres.

[EE_]

Anything except Ron Paul running against Obama assures the outcome for Obama. If it's because we vote another 3rd party choice, not at all or even for Obama it's the same result.

Now, look at it like this, RP while still being marginalized is still somewhat on the national stage, if he were running 3rd party right now he would absolutely be getting zero attention. Add to the fact that he and we all can see and know that he's been cheated, blacked out and smeared by the GOP and the MSM, if you think we're pissed I would bet that after 30 yrs he's really pissed and pay back is hell. Of course he isn't gonna say it now, why would he?

I ran across this Josh Tolley audio clip and it outlines better what I've been thinking.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU2AvSwzuok&feature=player_embedded

I hope it plays out the way Josh says...it would be fun to watch!
As it stands, I've lost all interest in this fraudulent election and no longer waste time watching any of it.
Death to the GOP!

[jimswift]

So whats the over/under that there will be no election?

Just asking cause if something jumps off in the ME, then I'd imagine they would call it off, no?

[Libertytree]

So whats the over/under that there will be no election?

Just asking cause if something jumps off in the ME, then I'd imagine they would call it off, no?

Call off an election!? That would be highly unlikely but nothing would surprise me. Maybe intrade has those odds?

[MarchHare]

I attended my local district convention and it was obvious that the local GoP people were not expecting to see so many Paul people. They were shocked that it was a record turnout. I tried to vote in as many Paul delegates as I could. There was one family that basically brought all the family members they could to try to get delegate seats (for Paul.) I live in a liberal area and was really very happy to see other Paul supporters here when I did not expect to. I hope that this is happening all around the country.

[Canadian-guerilla]

So whats the over/under that there will be no election?

Just asking cause if something jumps off in the ME, then I'd imagine they would call it off, no?

financial collapse AND/OR war in the middle east are always on the table as far as RP getting the GOP nomination

laws are already in place for a obankster dictatorship
the final nail in the American Freedom coffin was the Trespass Bill 347

[NOOB]

At my county convention we had almost half of the people there(RP supporters).
A bunch of us got on the delegate list but I am sure we wont get much further.
The gop was not pleased with our showing up.

[Awoke]

Conservative Christian and Gay? Right! LOL And if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.


Exactly. This guy is a perfect sample of what the NWO is trying to engineer for the men of the white race: Corrupted Christians, living in sin, gay, and sold on the LRP. Kevin Dujan is the epitome of the trojan horse sent in to eradicate the white race.

[vacuum]

They came to this convention with the sole intent to take over as many of the delegate seats as they could
Damn strait

[Libertytree]

They will see it our way when this economy collapses { now within weeks }. Only RP will be able to explain what happened with any degree of accuracy, and WE the People will be "all ears"!

Just curious.....Anything particular making you say "within weeks"?

[messianicdruid]

Just curious.....Anything particular making you say "within weeks"?

"TODAY is my [Greg Smith] last day at Goldman Sachs. After almost 12 years at the firm — first as a summer intern while at Stanford, then in New York for 10 years, and now in London — I believe I have worked here long enough to understand the trajectory of its culture, its people and its identity. And I can honestly say that the environment now is as toxic and destructive as I have ever seen it. . . .

The firm has veered so far from the place I joined right out of college that I can no longer in good conscience say that I identify with what it stands for. . . .

I am sad to say that I look around today and see virtually no trace of the culture that made me love working for this firm for many years. I no longer have the pride, or the belief."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/opinion/why-i-am-leaving-goldman-sachs.html?_r=1

Here is what Bix Weir has to say about it:

"Holy Cow Batman! It's the HEAD of European Derivatives for one of the biggest CDS players in the world, Goldman Sachs! He's


-------> running for the hills <--------


just days before the settlement of the largest CDS payout in the history of the industry! Lay this fact on top of the retirement of the CEO of the CME and the removal of the CME as a European Derivative Clearing Organization and you have one toxic brew.

I've been doing some research into the settlement process of CDS's for the Friday Road Trip and from what I can surmise they call it the "Big Bang Protocol" for a reason! What a Cluster #!@*! When the DTCC came out and said this was only a $3.2B issue, they totally left out all the Greek CDS's that are not purchased to cover any specific bond investments...which is most of the Greek CDS market!

He is referring to his post yesterday, where the European Derivative Clearing Organization made a very important anouncement--getting out of the derivatives business."

The CFTC just released this announcement related to the CME withdrawing as a European Derivatives Clearing House: March 13, 2012

CFTC Vacates CME Clearing Europe Limited Registration as a Derivatives Clearing Organization
Washington, DC--At the request of CME Clearing Europe Limited (CMECEL), pursuant to Section 7 of the Commodity Exchange Act, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission issued an Order on March 13, 2012, vacating the registration of CMECEL as a derivatives clearing organization.
http://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/pr6208-12

"Did you catch that the removal of the status was "AT THE REQUEST OF THE CME"?
There is a RAGING wildfire behind the scenes as the entire $50,000,000,000,000 Credit Default Swap market is imploding due to the Greek default. The losses will come fast and furious once the auction is held on March 19th. The ISDA's 2009 "Big-Bang Protocol" will be put to the test next week."

Give it another week, and we'll see how this plays out. Supposedly, the Greek default agreement last week was only going to cost the bond insurers $3.2 billion. Bix is saying that their calculations did not include most of the losses, or the even worse condition of Spain. Between this and the resignation of the CEO of Goldman Sachs, I think they are trying to get out of the town before the 2,000 pound bomb scatters their body parts to the four corners of the earth.

[Canadian-guerilla]

The losses will come fast and furious once the auction is held on March 19th

a date for my DOOM & GLOOM calendar

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Originally Posted by Ares - Commented on by Revolution

So the next time you hear Ron Paul tell the media that he has no intention of running third party, you need to be aware that he is lying.

If you actually watch videos of him speaking, what he actually says -

"I never like to say never. But at this point I have no intention of running as a 3rd party."

[Libertytree]

I firmly believe it is a contingency plan, ride this out to the convention, cite all their cheating and the concerted effort against the American public and address it nationally at the convention in front of X millions of people and the media themselves. Paul tells them that he has no choice but to go 3rd party, turns the dogs loose and presses on with the revolution, thus making his one last stand. The only thing I see stopping this is if mitty agrees to be Rons VP.

Then again... mayhaps it's all just wishful thinkin'? Time will tell.

[Bigjon]

At my county convention we had almost half of the people there(RP supporters).
A bunch of us got on the delegate list but I am sure we wont get much further.
The gop was not pleased with our showing up.

This where you get together with your fellow Ron Paul supporters and show up on the odd year and elect a slate of Ron Paul officers and throw those neo-con assholes out.

[Bigjon]

I firmly believe it is a contingency plan, ride this out to the convention, cite all their cheating and the concerted effort against the American public and address it nationally at the convention in front of X millions of people and the media themselves. Paul tells them that he has no choice but to go 3rd party, turns the dogs loose and presses on with the revolution, thus making his one last stand. The only thing I see stopping this is if mitty agrees to be Rons VP.

Then again... mayhaps it's all just wishful thinkin'? Time will tell.

There is a big flaw with that strategy and that is you have to have so many signatures by registered voters in every state to be qualified to get on the ballot in all the respective states. I don't know if there is enough time between the Republican National Convention and the filing deadlines in all the states to get that done.

I have worked to get our local Libertarian Party on the ballot here in Minnesota and you usually start the year before the election to get the job done.

[Neuro]

"TODAY is my [Greg Smith] last day at Goldman Sachs. After almost 12 years at the firm — first as a summer intern while at Stanford, then in New York for 10 years, and now in London — I believe I have worked here long enough to understand the trajectory of its culture, its people and its identity. And I can honestly say that the environment now is as toxic and destructive as I have ever seen it. . . .

The firm has veered so far from the place I joined right out of college that I can no longer in good conscience say that I identify with what it stands for. . . .

I am sad to say that I look around today and see virtually no trace of the culture that made me love working for this firm for many years. I no longer have the pride, or the belief."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/opinion/why-i-am-leaving-goldman-sachs.html?_r=1

Here is what Bix Weir has to say about it:

"Holy Cow Batman! It's the HEAD of European Derivatives for one of the biggest CDS players in the world, Goldman Sachs!
He's


-------> running for the hills <--------

just days before the settlement of the largest CDS payout in the history of the industry! Lay this fact on top of the retirement of the CEO of the CME and the removal of the CME as a European Derivative Clearing Organization and you have one toxic brew.

I've been doing some research into the settlement process of CDS's for the Friday Road Trip and from what I can surmise they call it the "Big Bang Protocol" for a reason! What a Cluster #!@*! When the DTCC came out and said this was only a $3.2B issue, they totally left out all the Greek CDS's that are not purchased to cover any specific bond investments...which is most of the Greek CDS market!

He is referring to his post yesterday, where the European Derivative Clearing Organization made a very important anouncement--getting out of the derivatives business."

The CFTC just released this announcement related to the CME withdrawing as a European Derivatives Clearing House: March 13, 2012

CFTC Vacates CME Clearing Europe Limited Registration as a Derivatives Clearing Organization

Washington, DC--At the request of CME Clearing Europe Limited (CMECEL), pursuant to Section 7 of the Commodity Exchange Act, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission issued an Order on March 13, 2012, vacating the registration of CMECEL as a derivatives clearing organization.
http://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/pr6208-12

"Did you catch that the removal of the status was "AT THE REQUEST OF THE CME"?
There is a RAGING wildfire behind the scenes as the entire $50,000,000,000,000 Credit Default Swap market is imploding due to the Greek default. The losses will come fast and furious once the auction is held on March 19th. The ISDA's 2009 "Big-Bang Protocol" will be put to the test next week."

Give it another week, and we'll see how this plays out. Supposedly, the Greek default agreement last week was only going to cost the bond insurers $3.2 billion. Bix is saying that their calculations did not include most of the losses, or the even worse condition of Spain. Between this and the resignation of the CEO of Goldman Sachs, I think they are trying to get out of the town before the 2,000 pound bomb scatters their body parts to the four corners of the earth.

I took the liberty of quoting you here:
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?59639-Why-I-Am-Leaving-Goldman-Sachs

Excellent post!

[Libertytree]

I'm seriously LMFAO over this one...these neocon fucks that have screwed RP and us over in 08 and are doing their best now are now crying about how well we're doing with the delegates. Check these comments out, they were post about the same article in this OP and I seriously thought about a new thread for it but....we got this :)



Edit: There might be a script buried in here? IDK for sure but I do suspect it, so I deleted the link.

New clean link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDChEDnISOw&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDChEDnISOw&feature=player_embedded